>Over 1,500ng/dl total T naturallyLooks relatively averageSo why do roiders look so big, comparatively? You can tell he works out at least a little but he looks normal in clothes and relatively youthful despite being in his mid-30s.I know in my case, being clinically high T, muscle gains never came easy due to recovery and I had to switch to HIT-type workouts with plenty of rest days. I was shocked seeing my numbers when I gave in and got bloodwork which showed high even despite my cut. I also seem youthful despite my age but always have a good, solid mood. Does this shit just pay off overtime or what?
>>77102623Total T is irrelevant.
>>77102623>Looks relatively averageYes, now you can learn about how SHBG, total/free test, estrogen, &c interact with each other to create the whole picture.
>>77102623>nattyThat gentleman has subjected himself to so much radiation and so many concoctions that it's inaccurate to call him natty anymore.
>>77102628From what I recall in his video abt it, everything seemed relatively normal (at least for baseline), even bioavailable T, just that something was pushing his HPGT axis to keep pumping out total T
>>77102623Is that Carrot Top
>>77102623>Over 1,500ng/dl total T naturallyStop being gullible, this is basically proof of exogenous hormones being used, or a really bad single occurrence reading.Don't reply to me with the "men used to" cope.
>>77102633100% thisImagine the electromagnetic radiation from his 6000v fuse video
>>77102623Is it free T?>>77102643no hes just a muslim arab like most broccolu head zoomers you assume are white
>>77103008>basically proof of exogenous hormones being used>>77102638>seemed relatively normal>just that something was pushing his HPGT axis to keep pumping out total TPeople on here have hit it with stacking many natty test boosters, but doesn't SpiroSpyro or whoever have some kinda mild androgen insensitivity syndrome?Regardless, the more important question and answer is: why Smaev so big?>protip: Not just androgen pathway or genetics.
SHBG...
>>77102643No that the youtuber styropyro.He's dreamy.
>>77102623Why didn't he make some pulse laser with the 400 car batteries instead of that lame shitAlso don't forget he's really short too so he will look more jacked with less muscle
>>77102623Nah he does trt. 1000+ natty looks like shit brickhouse he's sub 200 5ft6.
>>77102623I otoh, have very low T due to thyroid problems. I NEVER had problems gaining muscle or strength, but I age like shit and feel horrible all the time. Which is interesting.
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>>77103450>He's dreamyBecause he has some feminine features like big female lips which triggers the male gaze nuerons.
>>77102623>and relatively youthful despite being in his mid-30s.it's unusual to look old in your 30s and people who don't understand this got bad genes.
>>77103606you're projecting, oldcel. nobody is implying that, retard. post that ugly mug of yours
>>77102623This queer is on steroids put him in jail for 90 days. I have higher T natty.
>>77102633kek
>>77103606>it's unusual to look old in your 30s>>77103672>you're projecting, oldcel.Are you retarded?
>>77102623Mid 30s?I thought he was like 25 or something
>>77103512Impressive. Very nice. Now let's see the prolactine (aka estrogen) levels.
>>77102626Yeah, test doesn't matter as much as anyone think, it's the biggest midwit lantern there is in all of fitness.
>>77102623>he thinks a tremendous chemistry nerd, who's entire thing is experimentation, is nattykek
>>77104078What if he's just doing PI3K/Akt induction and GSK3-beta inhibition with no androgen modulation? Is that natty?
>>77103511You must be super DHT sensitive or something. I'm like OP with high nat total/free T but relatively youthful even at 32 and have a terrible time makin GAINZ
>>77102623>despite being in his mid-30s.But he looks like a 17 year old?
>>77104011He's been posting to youtube since 2006 dawg.>>77103512>>77104019We had a similar thread on here years ago where someone posted this then someone posted case studies of extreme androgen insensitive accidentally producing the most gorgeous accidental transexuals with lush hair and dewey skin but it only happened in utah mormons for some reason.
Take a look at those guns.
>>77104023>test doesn't matter as much as anyone think>is literally the single greatest contributor to muscle gain besides exerciseThe #1, very first, adaptation lifting causes is a shift in your endocrine profile that favors higher levels of T. If your goal is to get strong, and have generally good fitness, healthy sex hormone levels are without a doubt the greatest facilitator. Don't be retarded. I'm not endorsing roids, but if your fitness plan doesn't include steps top optimize your hormones, you're basically retarded.
>>77102633>nonionising radiation inducing chemical changethis nigga thinks he's gonna isomerize more than 50% of the molecules in his body at infinite temperature after infinite time KEKEKEKEKEKEK
>>77106452I think I read a study where they found no significant relationship between total testosterone (in natties) and muscle gain, but androgen receptor density was significantly related. Obviously, something happens when extreme amounts of exogenous hormones are introduced.
>>77106467>but androgen receptor density was significantly related.How the fuck do you get this measured?
>>77102628Don't forget NITROGEN retention, which is the biggest advantage roiders have.
>>77106457Calm down with the keks, kekker.
>>77103450ZESTYESTY
>>77102623>turns out he was roiding for mental benefitsActually everyone on steroids is retarded.
>>77106441Put him in jail for 90 days and he shrinks.
>>77106441>>77106603>>77106601You really think that low bodyfat twink is on roids? Jewsus fucking Christ, this board is truly DYEL.
>>77106452>>is literally the single greatest contributor to muscle gain besides exerciseNot him but TOTAL TESTOSTERONE is a meme number. im almost the same as the guy in the OP. i routinely get 900 to 1100 ng/dl total test and normal to high everything else. i am fairly lean in my 30s. i don't look like a roided monster. but i do have incredibly high anxiety and aggression if i go nofap for a week.
>>77107035I sit at just north of 920 with plenty of free T and normal estradiol but never get aggression (unless some stupid cunt cuts me off in traffic) but my libido goes through roof doing nofap 6 days out of the week.
>>77107070>but never get aggression>but my libido goes through roof doingim literally the opposite. i feel like killing people in a very violent manner. but im not a very sexual guy. estradiol and SHBG all normal.
>>77102623I got 1400ish total T natty off 2 bloodtests at 24, and got 1300ish at 19. My SHBG and E2 were also high all 3 times. Free T was at high end of reference range. I am fairly muscular for a natty and always was even without working out. It's still less than even an entry level test cycle afaik
>>77106457When you guys talk science, engineering or finance it unironically makes me feel like a nigger.
>>77107229>prole detected
>>77107229Anon do you really think these retards understand any of it either? One day I want you to find one of these threads and look up the science babble words and then spend time reading about some of the concepts you think you're misunderstanding. Save the conversation and come back to it after and be in awe of how fucking stupid the shit that gets said is. It's as bad as reddit now.
>>77106642He has an undiagnosed medical condition which elevates his test levels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1162ouPHH3Q
>>77102623He looks great man, he has a fuck ton of definition you can tell so the amount of T does matter.But at the same time as natty you will never really be super huge which is fine if you want to live long anyway. The biggest you are getting is like Steve Reeves.
>>77107229I mean I can take the time to explain my post, it's mostly just a joke for myself though.>nonionising radiationthis just means any radiation which can not break a chemical bond, either because it doesn't have enough energy (a chemical bond has a minimum energy which must be exceeded to remove the electrons); in the case of the electromagnetic fields generated from high energy electronics, the energy is too low to break bonds, meaning it only has enough energy to induce molecules to vibrate, rotate, or move. It is a direct consequence of quantum mechanics that a system of particles with (At least) 2 energy levels will only ever reach a 50/50 distribution across those energy levels as infinite temperature and infinite time are allowed to the system, but I'm not going to run through the math because that will make it more confusing, so we'll take this as a postulate.When a molecule can take 2 orientations physically, it's called an "isomer." It's made of the exact same atoms, just laid out differently. The difference between these configurations is an amount of energy, one will have a higher potential energy than the other. Similar to a chemical bond, this has a minimum energy to overcome before you can change it, but unlike a chemical bond the energy needed is much much lower.As such, I'm implying the person I'm responding to is retarded for thinking that you can alter the entire human hormonal system by this mechanism.
>>77102638Ha said it might be liver cancer or something like that, i dunno. I hope he's ok
