Unless you plan on competing, training multiple disciples is infinitely superiorLike, if you go to the gym 10 hours a week and nothing more, you're retarded. Instead cut it to like 6 hours gym, 2 hours swimming and 2 hours doing some martial arts of your choice. It trains your body more thoroughly and create more neural pathways instead of just repeating the same shit a bajillion times
>>77102673Jesus trained 12 disciples, you might be onto something here.
>>77102673>2 hours doing some martial artsLiterally the gayest thing ever.
I only have two disciples at the moment. Hopefully wil attract some more after showing off my curling skills
>>77102673quickest way to be mediocre at everything
>>77103070>unless you plan on competingWow, instead of lifting 400 lbs you'll lift only 350 lbsWho cares? The tradeoff is humongous. Better flexibility, mobility, hand eye coordination, endurance, cardiovascularity, balance, bone density, etc. It isn't like most people are planning to be super athletes who win golden medals or break records anyway
>>77103092literally every regular person does what you claim is best. they all make 0 progress in anything. You aren't discovering anything new, you just sound new as shit to fitness
>>77102673I lift 3 times a week and do muay thai 1-3 times a week. My main goal is to look good and be able to heem faggots.
>>77103095The regular person is lifting and doing martial arts?
>>77103095No, the regular person don't even go to the gym frequently, imagine gym + swimming + boxing/muay thai Frequency is assumed. If you aren't consistent, you'll be trash indeed, but that's a skill issue. Only massive faggots need to be "motivated" like kids
>>77103105>>77103106sounds like you guys dont live a life or have jobs. literally everyone does some bullshit cardio, lift small weights, play basketball or swim, and do a lot of wlaking. focusing on one thing is best way to make the most for the shortest time. we arent talkin about fat fucks who dont exercise, we are talking about people who exercise
>>77103112>we arent talkin about fat fucks who dont exercise, we are talking about people who exerciseYou do realize most humans are overweight Einstein.
>>77103115yea buts thats not what we talkin about. we talkin about people who try to do everything thinkin its the best way to workout. try to keep up
>>77103112The method must be good too. There's people who can build good physiques with 30 minutes workouts 3-4 times a week, meanwhile there's regular dudes who spend hours on the gym and look sedentary Swimming, for example, you can do fuck all for a hour or you can do high intensity drills that'd drive you to exhaustion in 20 minutes
>>77103119So optimal health is lifting the same weight everyday?What a galaxy brain you are.
>>77103120it really doesn't matter. People who focus on one thing always makes progress. Compare 100 people who do everything to 100 people who do one thing. Focusing on one thing always shows more progress
>>77103122>I always lifted the same weight and never increased itMan you so smart
>>77102673i swim, roon and ride 6 days a week. feels good man
>>77103126Then you just disproved your own point you do change your workouts over time.Take that a step further and some people are capable of swimming and lifting weights.Try to keep up brainlet.
>>77103129>If you hit new PRs, it means you changed your workoutGreat thread OP
>>77103131I'm not the OP.And you can use a barbell and dumbbell in the same workout.
>>77103137>if you focused on bodybuilding and you switched it up to bodybuilding, it means you changed your workout to bodybuilding
>>77103123>focus on 2-3 things instead of just one, it'll make your body more complete, change things up and stimulate/challenge your brain more>you want to do EVERYTHING and spread the focus thinThat's like saying that someone who draws well can't play sports. That doesn't make sense, just allocate your time well and use a good training methodThose people don't progress because they don't have a clear plan, don't do it consistently and do things halfheartedly
>>77103138Right, so if I'm lifting weights then I can't exercise my muscles swimming or doing a pushup because I have to specialize in the gym.Do you realize how retarded you are?
>>77103140>Those people don't progress because they don't have a clear planI dont think you talk to the average person who works out. I dunno if you work or not yet but you will meet people who have regular plans but focus on everything who have terrible health and bodies. Its really not a secret either. Even in professions, focus on one thing and you are just significantly better than the average person. We arent just talking about fitness/sports.
>>77102673Don't tell me what to do.
>>77103142Literally ask any person at your local gym what their workout is. They do everything and look like shit. You obviously dont talk to anyone outside of your home
>>77103149The obesity rate is basic evidence that most people eat too much and don't exercise.Your body dysmorphia and insecurity isn't my problem.
>>77103152>fat people are fatWe talking about people who exercise, try to keep up
>>77103155Walking is a form of exercise and fat people can indeed walk.
>>77103144What aren't you getting that their training sucks? You can walk 5km everyday, after the beginning, the progress is meaningless. You must keep increasing pace, time and/or distance to see progress. Training consistently only matters if it has progressive overload If you train consistently, with focus, with progressive overload and until failure/almost failure you'll progress, it doesn't matter how many activities you do through the week. The only limiting factor are fatigue and time
>>77103167>you can make more progress doing everything over someone who heavily focuses on one thingYou could make the same exact argument of someone who focuses on one thing. Evidence is all around you but you want to think in hypotheticals. Keep thinkign what you want, maybe one day it will be true
>>77103167If that were true then humans would eventually lift infinite weight.
>>77103173Of course if you focus on one thing it'll progress fast, but also answering this tard >>77103174Everything has diminishing value. Instead of grinding weeks to increase 10 lbs in your deadlift, you can use the extra time to do something else that'll give way more benefits in less time. You still will progress in your main activity, but slightly slower, which is a worthy tradeoff
>>77103182It's still a logarithm that reaches its asymptotic.You can't keep lifting more indefinitely.
>>77103182I really have no idea what your argument is anymore. Let me just say this. Someone who trains cardio will have better cardio than a person who only weight lifts and a person who does everything. A person who weight lifts will be stronger than a person who only does cardio and a person who does everything. But both the cardio freak and weight lifter will always look better and have better health than the person who does everything. Thats the difference between the average person and people who know what they're doing.
>>77102673Exchange martial arts for bouldering and it's pretty much me
>>77103194Why can't someone train both cardio and strength?
>>77103198The main argument of the thread is which is best bang for your buck. It wasn't about if you can do some light cardio after weight lifting. Or some weight lifting after cardio
>>77103200I think OP's argument is different exercise exercise different groups of muscles differently.
>>77103205thats not an argument. Whats next? Swimming is different than jump roping?
>>77103210It is.
>>77103220Stating a fact isnt an argument. You also want to argue water is not fire?
>>77102673But i only like liftingSo i will only do lifting, simple as
>>77103221I accept your concession.
>>77103223This isnt a burger stand
>>77103224Proof?
>>77103222>I only like chocolate, I don't like pickles>t. never tried others things
>>77103184Logarithms don't have an asymptote. >>77102673Basically right. Weights alone make you rigid and fragile.
>>77102673Who cares? Just do what you enjoy. Fuck you fag nerds and your obsession with optimizing everything.
>>77103824>Logarithms don't have an asymptote.
>>77102673It's insane when I see fit people who can't do basic movements like a backflip. Are you really such a faggot that your muscles are all just for show?