I'm already taking 20g of creatine a day, I'm just looking for something to give me a bigger edge without destroying me. But I can't seem to find anything that works, even the "mildest" roids like anavar completely rape your liver and make you infertile. So far I'm considering:>enclomiphene>mk677Anything else I should look into, or is this all a cope?
Retatrutide, GHK-Cu, Melanotan II. Maybe one of the growth hormone peptides, but you don't want to have a fuck as fuck ugly Joe Rogan stomach so maybe stay away from that.
>>77103249I started doing MK awhile ago and planned on just running it for 60 days and got hooked on it. Id smash through intense workouts that would have had been bed ridden for an entire day pre MK and I would wake up the next day without the slightest bit of soreness. Sleep never better and I always had a problem getting myself to eat enough but the MK took care of that too. Been 2 years now and I have no plan of ever stopping.
>>77103249>runs into clav for a minute and brutally mogs him>causes a nationwide moghunt>refusse to explain>leaves arizonatrue chad
>>77103550S-Class
>>77103550every fag zoomie is getting mogged lately. androgenic just got exposed for being fucking bald after someone stole his wig on stream LMAO
>>77103295>>77103546
>>77103249This dude is built like a gymnast
>>77103754He went to Thailand to get a hair transplant and a nose reconstruction and he did videos showing off his bald head and was walking around like that. I assume this shit was just staged although I don't know why he would make such a mockery of himself in public.
>>77103754Roidbros, I don't feel so good.
Why aren't there any new Zyzz who are trying to uplift people instead of putting them down? I feel someone could copy Zyzz's schtick and get huge nowadays
>>77103767Zyzz was actually putting people down.
>>77103249Why are his clavicles so angled? Has he been taking sarms since like age 13? That plus the hot tub probably means he's infertile ngl
>>77103249>>77103295>>77103546You're all killing your organs to get incredibly mid gains slightly faster than doing it naturally, all so you can have bigger biceps for gooning. None of you need steroids but go ahead and kill your organs i truly don't care about any of you.
>>77103767There’s so many of them that you can’t even notice anymore
>>77103249Tirzepatid and reta>>77103754is he croatian?>>77103766where are the noble masculines at
>>77103767There are more “positive” fitness influencers than ever. Arguably the most saturated niche on the market.
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>>77104504Kek this is hilarious because it's true for everyone under the age of 30
>>77103754He has a skull shape of an eastern european toilet cleaner.
they're taking shit to make your fuckin head shrink>polaknvm
>>77104896they're like inverse jews where they're white-presenting head-on, but turn their head sideways and expose their mongrel status, one for their tall and frighteningly narrow crown, the other for complete absence of prefrontal cortex
>>77103249>that actually work and don't rape your bodyYes, just have sex with STD-free virgins
>>77103249bpc-157 + tb-500 is quite nice if you have nagging injuriesreta makes cutting super simple, some people manage clean bulking on it>>77103295why on earth would anyone take melanotan
>>77103766Women not on birth control prefer leftWomen on birth control prefer right
>>77103249How can you be this lucky with your clavicles?I'm an absolute and utter framelet, no matter how much I push shoulders, it still barely makes a difference.
>>77103249TIRZRETATESTOSTERONEHGHeverything is unsafe, even your beer or vodka shot
>>77103550>runs into clav for a minuteExcept he was with Clav on multiple streams. And people basically pay him for that for some fame. >>77103754>exposedHe's literally been posting his bald head on tiktok himself. He didn't hide it.
>>77103762He clip farms openly. But yeah, it's self-deprecating.
>>77103767How is Clav putting anyone down except some hoes? He acknowledges men's hardship, because he went through it all, sees looks as easiest route to improve and most impactful in current environment, and just gives advices. He doesn't even advocate for hardcore stuff he's doing, that's just his own pursuit. That's why he's so popular.
>>77105256>He acknowledges men's hardship, because he went through it all, sees looks as easiest route to improve and most impactful in current environment, and just gives advices. He doesn't even advocate for hardcore stuff he's doing, that's just his own pursuit.Sounds based, ngl
ASU and Clav have character. Andro has no grace at all, he only puts others down.https://x.com/i/status/2025712592627401027yeah sorry for the twitter link I'm a boomer.
>>77104528its hilarious because the shit on the bottom actually works and the shit on the top is a copeclavicular proved all millennials wrongsteroids worksteroids get results"eating clean + lifting" is the cope in 2026
>>77105392>turning your bloodwork into a Pfizer factory works but good diet, exercise, posture and habits don’tare you actually freaking retarded?Looks generally = health.
>>77105392>clavicular proved all millennials wrong>steroids work>steroids get resultsWhy is he deep in2 victim weight and going deeper recently, then?Unlike Clav, I read about what supplements hit all the weird downstream targets of IGF-1 and AR you never heard about, and am not victim weight, kek.
>>77105518>victim weightnobody cares about your retarded boomer meme
>>77105520Tell that to Clav when he hits 130lbs and fractures his femurs falling over, roflmao.
>>77103249Clavs rise to fame is so absurd he got on one stream with cheesur, meets adin ross and now he is an established big eceleb in like 4 months.
>>77105531He got exposed, the kid is in Thiel's twink kennel
>>77105494>>771055181 tapped by a nigga that barely tried. that anon >>77105392 is correct and unfortunately you won't fix your face with 5x5 stronglifts gomad you fucking retards this shit was debunked a trillion years ago they aren't trying to get 1 wife they want to get the girls and that is the essence of what you wanted when you started lifting truthfully look into bpc157 your weekly capacity will skyrocket
>>77105664steroids work btw
Why do all this half ass shit. If you're gonna do PEDs just inject test. Mk-677 and enclomiphene are going to fuck you up longterm for a fraction of the results
>>77105705>Mk-677 and enclomiphene are going to fuck you up longterm for a fraction of the resultssource?
>>77104448Sit in corner and be weak and make excuses. You have nothing to offer.
>>77103249> The Rizzler is the #4 ranked ChadIs this proof that jestermaxxing is the foolproof way of getting women?
>>77104910Reta changed my life. KLOW fixes little nagging aches. T helps. The world is full of timid dweebs. I read the studies, the P2 trials, and I took control of my health.
>>77103766You are not any of those.
>>77103766you realize there is also a middleground between roid ogres and leanfags without chest hair?
>>77105750where is the ranked list of chads?
>>77105707Mk-677 increases insulin resistance the longer you're on itEnclomiphene is a SERM, blocking estrogen signaling at the HPTA axis longterm has unknown effects in males.Either way, neither are going to blow you up like test will. Why waste your time, money, and safety on something that will give, at best a 1/4 of the results. We know what the longterm effects of taking testosterone are. We do not know what the longterms effects of enclomiphene and mk-677 are in men.
>>77105841>insulin resistancenot a problem as long as you aren't a landwhale>blocking estrogen signaling at the HPTA axis longterm has unknown effects in males.except we know there are next to no major side effects because enclo is prescribed as a permanent solution to low T
>>77103249Always remember the old rule from medicine:No effects without side effects.
>>77105580Holy strawman batman. no one is saying go mad will make you aesthetic retard
>>77105720Absolutely BRVTALImagine being so insecure about your receeding hairline that you wear a wig AND a hat on top of it. Fucking kek.
>>77105520clavicular cant bench 135 lbshe can bench 1 plate for like 12 rep maxyes its on video with tateand yes he had to take a huge break after 1 set of 1 plate
>>77103766norwood 0 is a noble masculine requirement?
>>77105841>We know what the longterm effects of taking testosterone are.Do we? Then what are those? Heart growth that ends up killing you a few years down the road?
>>77106193Damn, I also do 1 plate but I just started training a month ago at 36 years old.
>>77103754medieval peasant phenotype
>>77105832https://thechadscan.com/
>>77103754Oh boi. I always thought this nigger was awful but thats next level of awfulness
>>77105723>>77105720this shit is staged
>>77105392>clavicular proved all millennials wrongWhat are you talking about? Faggots like clav and Tate proved no one wrong. They just picked up the mantle of dead manosphere tips and trips and dialed it up to 11. We were literally preaching hit the gym on rooshforum back in 2013 you dumb zoomer. Just because you were watching spongebob and your balls had dropped it doesn't make anything millennials learned irrelevant.Fuck the Book of Pook is probably one of the most relevant game and self improvement books out there. Go read the chapter on lifting. Pathetic zoomies thinking they're original is so cringe.
>>77105256How about the guy begging him not to steal his gf and then him just doing it
>>77105392>clavicular proved all millennials wrong>steroids work>steroids get resultsNobody has ever claimed that steroids don't get results, you fucking brainless monkey.
>>77106193>clavicular cant bench 135 lbs>he can bench 1 plateLynch every single dyel newfag
>>77103546How the hell did you do mk677 for two years and not gotten diabetes?
>>77107778Possibly S-tier adjuvant anti-diabetic molecule skillz?
>>77107793Begone Bryan schizo, unless you're gonna start writing schizo substack posts
>>77106947You're right, the information has been out there but the problem is zoomies usually don't read. The ones that did used that knowledge to get popular by distilling it to the masses. See clav.
>>77103766This is just ugly vs good looking kek
>>77103249you can go for a 5/6 week cycle of anavar + enclomiphene+ mkthats still really safe, wont suppress your T levels that much + no androgenic side effects, no real risk of gyno either
>>77103249also liver toxicity of anavar is really low, the only thing to look out for is lipid profile on anavar which can be limited with cardio + omega 3s
>>77106403No, it just represents the furthest end of the spectrum, an ideal.
>>77105720Absolutely CORITSOL SPIKED
>>77107183>steal his gfNot his fault the gf is/was a massive whore with zero worth as a human being.Women hide behind their perceived lack of self awareness, but they actually know EXACTLY what they're doing. They might dodge accountability like Neo dodges bullets, but that's just evidence for the female lack of morals, not for her "not knowing any better".No such thing as "steal a woman" unless she actively wants to be "stolen", becausr she's a slut.
>>77108973>>77107183clipfarming, it was staged af
>>77105664Arms this large look just stupid on a twink torso.
>>77103550>runs into clav for a minute and brutally mogs himis it really that hard tho
>>77103766The funny part is that people who look like right can be roiders too
>>77103249Dogshit physique
>>77103249>so much offtopic in this threadjust do ozempic
>>77109075clav's make up looks so gay I wonder if the people around him tell him that
>>77109015andrew tate also took him under his wing and offered him millions so he can be rich. after seeing both of them walk from charges they shouldnt have, it was literally just one CIA asset helping another "ascend"
>>77103249testosterone, superdrol, anavar (if you can find real anavar), toremifene, and aromasin all work and cause minimal damage (this ultimately depends on your genetic predispositions), you just have to properly diet and lift to maintain joint health in addition to strength gains
>>77106522Yes we know what can happen when testosterone is abused. We know what to look for to keep us healthy. We have nowhere near the amount of longterm data for mk-677>>77105859Holy cope, enclomiphene for men is relatively new. We have nowhere near the longterm data on it. Just because clinics started using it in the last couple years does NOT mean we know its all good. Regardless, you're not gonna look better on enclo unless you were legit low T before.
>>77103295>>77103546>>77104448>>77104504>>77104910>>77105059>>77105705>>77105751>>77105841Everyone that took the time to give an answer, thank you>for being a try hard fag
>>77105859You can not prescribe enclomiphene nigga it's a research chemical
