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I feel DB lateral raises mostly in my upper traps. thats all, ok bye
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>>77106761
I don't cause i don't do em - bye
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Pro tip. Don't try to take your traps out of it. Just do the lift as heavy and for as many reps as you can without hurting your shoulders.

Like its not a problem if you feel bench press in your triceps or your chest. Just consider the lat raise a compound lift.
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never understood why people bother with this shit at the gym where cables exist
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>>77106789
Cables fucking suck for lateral raises. Destroy the elbows if you are actually strong. Its a completely awkward lift and you have to do 1 arm at a time which is gay
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>>77106789
I lift at home
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It's because you're going too heavy, causing you to subconsciously shrug the weight instead of leading with your elbows. Spam machines or one-handed variations to get over the hump.
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Upright rows and Lu raises blow the shit out of lateral raises
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>>77106761
Do it like this so your traps don't cheat you
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FW8mnBUyFGM
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>>77106990
Take your meds, schizo.

I've never had such a good burn, pump and feel in the side delts before doing upright rows, now some schizo asshole on 4chan tells me i couldn't train side delts with it
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>>77107027
Than why did u erase it bitch chat GPT?
AND QUICKLY xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>77106761
take a mini band and put your hands in between it so that it loops around your wrist. hold your hands in front of you make a fist and bring your hands close to your chest. now pull the band apart keeping your hands close to your chest. this is a superior lateral raise also works forearm extensors at the same time
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>>77106944
U can't raise elbows without raising shoulders in lat raise bitch bot GPT - human body is NOT A FUCKIN STICK FIGURE lol
>>77107054
>...Anonymous
>02/23/26(Mon)21:37:02 No.77107054
>>>77107027 #
>Than why did u erase it bitch chat GPT?
>AND QUICKLY xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>77107057
Nope bot ELBOWING MOTION, not archer pull
But u already folder like lol twat u are lol
>>77107065
>>>77106944 #
>U can't raise elbows without raising shoulders in lat raise bitch bot GPT - human body is NOT A FUCKIN STICK FIGURE lol
>>>77107054 (You) #
>>...Anonymous
>>02/23/26(Mon)21:37:02 No.77107054
>>>>77107027 # #
>>Than why did u erase it bitch chat GPT?
>>AND QUICKLY xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>77107054
Please man do something else. Everyone hates you and mod have started deleting your shitposts. Please. I open a random thread and there are you and your rants.
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>>77107084
U gotta beg on knees bot xD
ELBOWING to side
Underhand front raise
THAT IS DELT
CAUSE SCAPULA IS STATIONARY IN THESE UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE, NOW BEG BOT
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>>77107090
Don't you have a life man? Something else to do?
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>>77106761
go heavier, like too heavy to actually do a rep without momentum, then build momentum over 15 reps. If you can control the weight it's unironically too light.
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>>77107054
>>77107065
>>77107076
>>77107090
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>>77107128
The deletions have triggered him (he won't admit it)
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>>77106776
Truth nuke and chad answer.

Let your traps join the party. There is absolutely no reason to try to remove them from the equation
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>>77107076
you keep your elbow bent arms parallel to each other and pull your wists apart keeping your elbows in line with wrist, elbows bent to bring your wrist close to chest. it's truly an incredible exercise
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>>77106761
>>77106776
>>77107271
There is no reason to NOT do both Heavy and Light Lateral Raises. Side Delts are the most important when it comes to looking like you actually lift.
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>>77106971
Lu raises are fucking stupid though.
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I've had left shoulder pain for like 3 months and haven't lateral raised since.

It is what it is.
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>>77107534
Not really, mate
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>>77106761
Reach outward with your palms when you do them.
If you can manage, try lightly flexing your lats to help pull down your traps.
Just my 2 cents.

But frankly, feeling it a little bit in your traps is fine.
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>>77106761
try Scott Press
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don't use your traps then?
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>>77107128
>>77107135
yes, they triggered me into laugh bitch chat gpt - u lost sth:
it's the lateral raises that suck
the reason they don't work is not even that they fuck up shoulder, no, it's true of course but that's not the reason they do fuckall for delts

the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint :D
you're moving your fucking scapula instead and the shoulder joint is just a point of rotation :D:D
it's so fucking simple
>you're kidding
no it's just look at what scaps are doing in these movements :D
scapula must be STATIONARY to work delts :D
like this:
>>77105698
>conversely u can actually just press overhead with perfect posture UNDERHAND, and i mean just getting weight overhead and HOLDING IT THERE WITH MUSCLES, without moving shoulders up at all, elbows directly under barbell, forearms perpendicular to it
>think of your spine and legs as an age of sail mast - ludicrously strong and designed to bear vertical load, with knees straight and feet parallel, with hips pushed forward and extended thoracic spine and tucked chin, your muscles around spine hips and legs play a role of shroud ropes making the setup both very healthy and incredibly strong
>and u don't want to raise higher than just overhead because u want to HOLD THE WEIGHT with your muscles for dozen+ seconds
scapula DOES NOT MOVE IN THIS MOVEMENT, it's fucking glued to rib-cage, and i use like 7 kilos loadable dumbbell for it not barbell - perfect to hold

>but side delt rear delt
elbowing to the side, and i MEAN IT - SPECIFICALLY MOVING ELBOW AND SHOULDER OUT TO THE SIDE, none of these archer pulls where scapula rolls back to spine, ELBOWING, to the side, like picture
delts are worked in entirety between the two and shoulder is completely intact
>>77107951
>don't use your traps then?
i did bot, it's awesome
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>>77108085
if you can't do a lateral raise without moving your scapula you have some sort of neurological disease (acute retardation in your case)
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>>77108150
>if you can't do a lateral raise without moving your scapula you have some sort of neurological disease (acute retardation in your case)
FALSE, WRONG BOT
everyone can check it with a phone :D scaps rotate and move up in lateral raise "for delts"
humans are not fucking stick fiures bich chat gpt, anatomy is always the same for everybody, and i understand it on expert level :D
>>77108085
yes, they triggered me into laugh bitch chat gpt - u lost sth:
it's the lateral raises that suck
the reason they don't work is not even that they fuck up shoulder, no, it's true of course but that's not the reason they do fuckall for delts

the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint :D
you're moving your fucking scapula instead and the shoulder joint is just a point of rotation :D:D
it's so fucking simple
>you're kidding
no it's just look at what scaps are doing in these movements :D
scapula must be STATIONARY to work delts :D
like this:
>>77105698
>conversely u can actually just press overhead with perfect posture UNDERHAND, and i mean just getting weight overhead and HOLDING IT THERE WITH MUSCLES, without moving shoulders up at all, elbows directly under barbell, forearms perpendicular to it
>think of your spine and legs as an age of sail mast - ludicrously strong and designed to bear vertical load, with knees straight and feet parallel, with hips pushed forward and extended thoracic spine and tucked chin, your muscles around spine hips and legs play a role of shroud ropes making the setup both very healthy and incredibly strong

>but side delt rear delt
elbowing to the side, and i MEAN IT - SPECIFICALLY MOVING ELBOW AND SHOULDER OUT TO THE SIDE, none of these archer pulls where scapula rolls back to spine, ELBOWING, to the side, like picture
delts are worked in entirety between the two and shoulder is completely intact
>>77108288
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>>77108298
massive skill issue
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>>77108311
>massive skill issue
just kicked ur teeth in bot on this didn't I?
>>77108298
FALSE, WRONG BOT
everyone can check it with a phone :D scaps rotate and move up in lateral raise "for delts"
humans are not fucking stick fiures bich chat gpt, anatomy is always the same for everybody, and i understand it on expert level :D
>>77108085
yes, they triggered me into laugh bitch chat gpt - u lost sth:
it's the lateral raises that suck
the reason they don't work is not even that they fuck up shoulder, no, it's true of course but that's not the reason they do fuckall for delts

the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint :D
you're moving your fucking scapula instead and the shoulder joint is just a point of rotation :D:D
it's so fucking simple
>you're kidding
no it's just look at what scaps are doing in these movements :D
scapula must be STATIONARY to work delts :D
like this:
>>77105698
>conversely u can actually just press overhead with perfect posture UNDERHAND, and i mean just getting weight overhead and HOLDING IT THERE WITH MUSCLES, without moving shoulders up at all, elbows directly under barbell, forearms perpendicular to it
>think of your spine and legs as an age of sail mast - ludicrously strong and designed to bear vertical load, with knees straight and feet parallel, with hips pushed forward and extended thoracic spine and tucked chin, your muscles around spine hips and legs play a role of shroud ropes making the setup both very healthy and incredibly strong

>but side delt rear delt
elbowing to the side, and i MEAN IT - SPECIFICALLY MOVING ELBOW AND SHOULDER OUT TO THE SIDE, none of these archer pulls where scapula rolls back to spine, ELBOWING, to the side, like picture
delts are worked in entirety between the two and shoulder is completely intact
>>77108288
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>n-nooo anatomy is not realz
lol :D 4 captchas :D
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i have some regex filters that catch most of his retarded posts
he hates this one simple trick
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>>77108085
>>77108298
>>77108347
the schizo is back
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>>77106761
lower your shoulders
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>>77108347
>>massive skill issue
>just kicked ur teeth in bot on this didn't I?
you have 0 athleticism you can't kick for shit. if you're not capable of moving you're shoulders relative to your torso you just suck at lifting, yeah there is skill to it believe it or not
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>>77108544
>if you're not capable of moving you're shoulders relative to your torso you just suck at lifting
i love doing that bot, it's called scapular circles, what u say makes no sense at all and it's got zero to do with what i am saying:
>>77108347
>everyone can check it with a phone :D scaps rotate and move up in lateral raise "for delts"
>humans are not fucking stick fiures bich chat gpt, anatomy is always the same for everybody, and i understand it on expert level :D
it is NOT POSSIBLE bot to
>>77108508
>lower your shoulders
keep shoulders down with lateral raises, upright row, OHP, Lu raises, what else u shilled ?
>>77108298
>the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint :D
>you're moving your fucking scapula instead and the shoulder joint is just a point of rotation :D:D

and i provide viable solution:
>>77108085
>conversely u can actually just press overhead with perfect posture UNDERHAND, and i mean just getting weight overhead and HOLDING IT THERE WITH MUSCLES, without moving shoulders up at all, elbows directly under barbell, forearms perpendicular to it
>elbowing to the side, and i MEAN IT - SPECIFICALLY MOVING ELBOW AND SHOULDER OUT TO THE SIDE, none of these archer pulls where scapula rolls back to spine, ELBOWING, to the side, like picture
delts are worked in entirety between the two and shoulder is completely intact

and what are u saying bot? fucking nonsense, and then u run victory laps :D cute D: retarded but cute :D
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>>77108861
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>>77108937
Why, what did i do wrong?
>>77108085
>the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint
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>>77108085
chat gpt - u lost sth:
it's the lateral raises that suck
the reason they don't work is not even that they fuck up shoulder, no, it's true of course but that's not the reason they do fuckall for delts

the reason lateral raises, upright rows, overhead press etc. are absolute gutter tier garbage for delts is because u are not moving in shoulder joint :D
you're moving your fucking scapula instead and the shoulder joint is just a point of rotation :D:D
it's so fucking simple
>you're kidding
no it's just look at what scaps are doing in these movements :D
scapula must be STATIONARY to work delts :D
like this:
>>77105698 #
>conversely u can actually just press overhead with perfect posture UNDERHAND, and i mean just getting weight overhead and HOLDING IT THERE WITH MUSCLES, without moving shoulders up at all, elbows directly under barbell, forearms perpendicular to it
>think of your spine and legs as an age of sail mast - ludicrously strong and designed to bear vertical load, with knees straight and feet parallel, with hips pushed forward and extended thoracic spine and tucked chin, your muscles around spine hips and legs play a role of shroud ropes making the setup both very healthy and incredibly strong
>and u don't want to raise higher than just overhead because u want to HOLD THE WEIGHT with your muscles for dozen+ seconds
scapula DOES NOT MOVE IN THIS MOVEMENT, it's fucking glued to rib-cage, and i use like 7 kilos loadable dumbbell for it not barbell - perfect to hold

>but side delt rear delt
elbowing to the side, and i MEAN IT - SPECIFICALLY MOVING ELBOW AND SHOULDER OUT TO THE SIDE, none of these archer pulls where scapula rolls back to spine, ELBOWING, to the side, like picture
delts are worked in entirety between the two and shoulder is completely intact
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>>77106792
I like it, but you're right
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>>77109042
Post shoulders



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