Smaev Edition >Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexprevious >>77100548
>>77112742smaev is nattyhe's just been training for a long time
>>77112745nah you can only look like this if you reconstitute your gh with tap water
>>77112742Are peptides copeOnly tried RetaWhat are some peptides that actually work beside glps and MT2Want to buy- Tesamorelin - TB500- CJC no dac- Nad 500-Mots- BPC 157- Ipamorelin
>>77112752>Tesamorelindoes nothing>TB500works>CJC no dacdoes nothing, causes severe allergic reactions>Nad 500never heard of it>Motsmillenial cope>BPC 157works, I had better results pinning the arginate salt, but thats hard to source now unless you know Croatian>Ipamorelindoesnt do anythingpin GH- Ipamorelin
>>77112778Sorry NAD+Oral form is available for this
> Butterworks excellent with both ret and tirz, about 3x the bioavailability of BAC water and 2x tap. Studies show 80-90% retention of the compound compared to 14-30% with BAC water> MargarineMuch easier and people report a smoother draw, seems to only keep that 80% target with tirz though> Lard People believe other compounds in lard help reduce PIP and inflammation, also a good choice> Olive oildo not currently recommend, lacks the healthy liposomes needed to properly dissolve and deliver GLP 1s and we don't have enough knowledge of the appropriate filtration steps. Stick with butter until more information comes.
>>77112799you forgot tap water
>>77112745>he just has genetics
Why don't we have a bodybuilding general on /fit/? Arnold Ohio is coming bros.
>BBC water
>>77112849Make one bro
>>77112786oral nad+ is useless. shit gets destroyed in your stomach
How common is it to get gyno on gear if I've never had it in my entire life?Are there any indications than you might get it easier than others or is it completely random and you don't know until you start pinning?Planning to start a cycle of just T soon btw
>>77113146It happens. You can avoid getting gyno by being careful and always having an AI and not being retarded. The main thing to look for is if your mom or sisters have big tits. Post pics of your mom and sisters and tell you your gyno risk. The main advice I would tell you besides that is >dbol is gyno in a bottle >finasteride will cause gyno as DHT has anti gyno effects >put down the money to get your e2 tested until you gain the ability to just feel what high and low estrogen are like >don’t take grams of gear in your first cycle like a retard
>>77112799is this supposed to be funny?The idea of listing different cooking oils and comparing their effectiveness for reconstitution is funny but your execution is horribly unfunny and comes off as someone who has no business writing jokes.
>>77112742He looks disgusting
>>77113201yes you do.
>>77113214Good one! Good luck on your crippling tranny body dysmorphia.
>>77112742>>77112745>>77112749>>77112846You can try and cope about Smaev's "genetics" or how he's on "gear" but the main reason he's so huge (compared to other "genetic freaks" on gear) is because he literally eats multiple pharmacies worth of supplements erry day. He's clearly modulating a lot more muscle-related proteins than your typical hGH/tren stacker.>t. also on a lot of supps but thinks Smaev has selected too many of the wrong ones and is progeria-maxxing
>>77113237Like what10 fruit Gummi multis
>>77113242Nope, try looking up what all this weird shit does:>MuRF1/TRIM63 downregulation>PI3K/Akt induction>GSK3β inhibition>MyoD induction>MAFbx/Atrogin-1 inhibition>Myogenin inductionYou can do it all with supplements, and a lot more, if you're kinda sharp at reverse network pharmacology and toxicology.
>>77113237>the guy is big because 1 ton of steroidsNo shit anon
how do i game my test results?im 45i look like ive never gone through pubertycant grow a beard super low lean muscle massbut my test is 1000 ng/dl which from what ive read is super high for a 45 year old
>>77113626I am also a 37 year old who looks 17z
Holy shit bros the difference between 25mg Anavar and 50mg is night and day, I feel great.
>>77113755 >I feel great
>>77113194lol I have made almost this exact same post in response to him. The fag has the right idea but he is just too autistic and unfunny to make the meme work. And he insists upon it too much
>>77113774Imagine being afraid of 50mg anavar.You people are a bunch of pussies.Afraid of 500mg test too.Steroids used to be for getting huge, now its a bunch of bitches taking bitch doses of test and women's doses of anavar just to look like a slightly bigger natty
>>77113626that is high. you probably have a different underlying issue. but dont sleep, exercise hard, and get fucking trashed. that'll help drop it on then test. or just shop around for a clinic that'll prescribe you whatever you want
>>77113774lol I used to drink like 10 beers and take like 6 vicodins (with tylenol) on the regular. My liver is bullet proof. I come from a long line of alcoholics and we never die from liver problems just heart attacks
>>77113774I don't care about my organs exploding in 5 years. I want to look good until then.
>>77113850>>77113850>I don't care about my organs exploding in 5 years. I want to look good until then.Yet most roiders stay DYEL and never get into unconventional bulking target proteins like >>77113336.
>>77113640I've never seen such a young poster
>>77113807Redditors think 200ml of a spirit means you should immediately report to A&E, they're always 5'1 men scared of anything that's not approved science
>>77113336>if you're kinda sharp at reverse network pharmacology and toxicology.God roidtrannys are so pathetically retarded
I ate a smurfberry today
>>77113850this is the point
>>77112752Hgh secretogogues are dumb. You're already pinning something (daily with most of them), might as well just pin actual hgh>Nad500/mots-cMaybe, I don't really think they're worth much in a strictly performance enhancing context. But if you have some kind of baseline energy dysfunction, maybe?>Bpc-157Definitely works>Tb-500Also works>Semaglutide/tirzepatide/retatrutideAmazing
The only test I can get my hands on in my country (Chile) is "Sustanon".Does anyone how much do and how often do I need to pin in a cycle?
>>77114418Dont for any reason do the slightest bit of research yourself.Please shit up the thread with the most basic beginner questions you can possibly think of.And dont forget to ask us how much AI you need to take with your sustanon
>>77114418ED or EOD
>>77114418fellow Weon
>>77114418Don't listen to >>77114441Just pin 1ml
>>77114418Classic latin american waiting everyone's time with stupid questions
>>77114441>>77114502But I read the entire wiki before making my post, and only did it because there is literally no mention whatsoever of sustanon... every part of the guide is based on just enanthate and cypionate
>>77114506Post your bloodwork. There's no way we can give you advice without it.
>>77113846how do i find whats the underlying issue?ive talked to primary and endocrinologists many times and they are completely uselessone endo literally started pushing tranny shit within a couple sentences (he started asking if i identify as trans and if that was something i'd be interested in, i wanted to fucking smash his head into the floor) when i simply came in to ask why my test is high but i cant grow a beard and have zero energy and have never had any energy
>>77114522why do you need to see bloodwork to tell him to do the basic 500mg 20week babby blast?
>>77114506they dont have google in your favella?
What is the /fraud/ consensus on the BP danger zone while giga blasting gear?180/100 or higher has always been my "pump the breaks" zone but curious to what others think?And just in case you didn't read the first time I am talking about BP while ON A SHITLOAD OF FUCKING GEAR.
>>77114625are you trolling or are you severely retarded? I cant tell any more.If your systolic is 180 you literally need to go the emergency room. And I'm not just saying that to be dramatic.
>>77112503?
>>77114654was asking people who have actually used gear not some panty boy nurse quoting the hypertension poster at the ymca gym
>>77114625Great chance your BP monitor doesn't actually work on your arms. Big nigga arms ruin most of them and give a very high false reading because it's chink bullshit.If it's actually 180 then yeah what >>77114654said
>>77113237you can tell when someones natty just because of how retarded their perception of what more gear does
>>77114690alright so I should prob get a stethoscope and old school bp gauge and take manual readings. thank you for the information I was thinking that those electronic shitters were bunk.
>>77114688you're right anon.Roids pretty much negate the effects of high blood pressure. The more roids you take the higher your tolerance.If you ever hit 180 just add some anadrol and keep going.
>>77114699Yes, especially common above like 18" biceps, you're welcomeAlso you sound like a genuine psychopath
>>77114683lipids nornalize pretty quick after coming off whatever screwed them up.
>>77114713Dropping var 100% played a role, but I've had high cholesterol for all of my 20s. I'm 30 now. First pin was in April 2024 and B&C since. If you look, it's my best panel by a good margin. I guess my question still is... could I really just run this indefinitely? My bloods are the best of my life somehow lol.
>>77114706lmao this fag doesnt have big arms.He's on his first babby cycle, doesnt know how to manage estrogen and his bp is going into orbit so he's asking shitretarded questions hoping to be told not to worry about.Or he's just trolling most likely
>>77114441This. These subhumans are incapable of just reading the wiki.
>>77114717>could I really just run this indefinitely?you can run it until the day you die.But why?Just blast real dosages that actually make you huge for 3 or 4 months and then give your body a break with a proper cruise.Niggas figured this shit out DECADES ago but every natty newb that comes along has to reinvent the wheel because they believe they thought of something nobody else did before.And they never get fucking huge. Just look like a slightly bigger natty kek
>>77114728Because I've already blasted a few times and I'm way bigger than natty already. I don't wanna get much bigger, I just wanna stay shredded but look full year round at the same time. I'm 30, not really interested in blasting too much more. Rather just perma cruise on the upper end.
>>77114620>Americans talking about poor and ugly criminal infested neighbourhoodsYour big cities don't even have sidewalks anymore. Just addicts, blacks and browns.>But but the small and medium cities are nice!!!!!Oh so like LatAmBonus point: You're probably Mexican
>>77114734>I want to take anabolic steroids for the rest of my life but I dont want to grow musclelord have mercy I cant take any more of this stupid shit
>>77112752>TesamorelinWorthless. Clinical dosage is 2mg. Nobody provides a vial to make it through a month (20 injections). This compound stings my injection site for 30-60 mins too. CJC no DAC + Ipa is vastly superior.>NAD+Worthless snake oil. All previous studies suggesting it had positive effects was on rats, recent study found that it doesn't do anything.>BPC 157>TB500Get the combo so you're injecting less, success depends on the person. Some report it's a miracle others say it did nothing.>>77112799Beef tallow vs duck fat vs motor oil? I felt like the motor oil tirz had me burning off all my calories.
>>77112742Smaev has one of the worst cases of GH horns I've ever seen.
>>77114811No he has a normal head, it's just his hair creating an optical illusion dumbass.
>>77114615self direct some bloodwork, and check everything. free & total testosterone, estradiol, dht, shbg, prostate antigen, tsh, t3, and t4. the tsh/t3/t4 will show if you have a thyroid issue. dht can prevent hair growth. prostate out of whack can indicate other issues going on. a lot of docs are fucking retarded, ESPECIALLY when it comes to hormones. you'll either want to find a reputable hormone specialist that actually gives a fuck (as opposed to one that pencil whips scrips, like the endo you saw), or shop around for a clinic that's not a cash grab (i.e. has actual knowledgeable people who want to help and not just say numbers look good). let me know if you get that energy thing figured out.... maybe i have the same problem. sadlol :(
>>77114821oh and you can get steep rate cuts online. hello good labs, discounted labs... others i cant recall. first one has the best prices lately. if you're in the US, of course, and i think they all partner with quest diagnostics
>>77114811This niggas mind is so warp from tiktok he's seeing invisible fucking horns on people's heads.
>>77114833>doesn't know what GH horns arenewfag detected
>>77114833picrelated growths at the corners of the cranium
>>77114861that's a different person, imbecile>>77114860>me: correctly state that the person in the pic doesnt have gh horns>you: HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT GH HORNS ARE AHHHHH!!!!another fucking moron
>>77113626probably low aromatization and very little 5-a-reductase. no negative feedback loop from estrogen to slow down your test production, no DHT to give you masculine features
>>77114869bad bait, but here's a you
>>77112742What are the risk to start a steroid cycle if you already suffer from deep terminal cystic acne over chest/shoulder?i just dont believe in natty lifting but i dont want to make my problem worse, if it get ever worst i might never get to be on a gay cruise shipMy derm warned that i was morally wrong but it was my decision...
>>77115543Butt sex your derm to assert dominance This will increase your test to roid levels with minimal danger
>>77115585funny you mention that because while i was waiting i found out he had a grindr account so he must be gay (i use it on to find out who are gays in my local area, not to meet, so its technically not gay)
>>77115543If you already suffer from bad cystic acne and you haven’t already consulted a dermatologist about it in the past the get it taken care of then what makes you think you will have the determination to do it on cycle? You aren’t 100% guaranteed to get acne but it will get worse if yours is hormonal.
>>77115603i ve been seing a derm for 3 years for my terminal cystic acne , its so bad all he can offer is cortisone shot and no private clinic around my area want (or claim they cant) to help me
How to avoid gyno while blasting 500mg of test e and 1mg of Dutasteride ED?
>>77115618Ok then he is a bad derm.>>77115633AI lol lmao? I am on 500mg for the last 4 months and no gyno w/ Dbol cycle mixed in it.
>>77115679i dont think he is a bad derm, i believe he has to follow protocol given by health canada and cant offer muchbut you a right, a small steroid cycle cant hurt that much at this point, it might help the skins to recover a bit .. im sure he wont know
I regret taking steroids as an incel. Im on my 6th week 500mg test e cycle and I can't fucking focus on anything because I'm horny 24/7 with no one to fuck while being a 27yo virgin.
>>77115685Oh canada is a 3rd world country I am sorry and take back what I said friend.>>77115689I would rather jerk off 5 times a day than deal with women crying and being faggots 6/7 days a week for a chance at pussy. Hop on hinge/tinder if you are a LTN or MTN or sub 7. or Grindr if you want to top a trans.
>>77115618>eing a derm for 3 years for my terminal cystic acne , its so bad all he can offer is cortisone shot>>77115679>Ok then he is a bad derm.>>77115685>i dont think he is a bad derm, i believe he has to follow protocol given by health canadaCortisol monotherapy for acne is beyond retarded. Topical retinoids and azelaic acid in combination easily mog it, but photodynamic therapy is how you easily BTFO pretty much any superficial MDR infection.
>>77115689Lol I would tell you to just go to a bar and get a girl. But I also think it is a pretty dangerous combo to be 6 weeks into your first cycle with peaking test levels and to get drunk cause you’ll probably get in a fight or something kek
>>77115689this is why I fuck prostitutes>inb4 ew prostitutes grosslmaoing @ ur life incel>>77115698the amount of basic / sad / lonely looking guys on dating apps is astounding. Like holy fuck get a personality and take some good pictures goddamnit. Also they're all dyels.
>>77115724BP sucks ass even at 9%
>>77115759he is putting BP in the trash tho
>>77115749i enjoy those posts when someone compiles multiple photos of different men from dating apps, where they all have taken the exact same photo. top looking down, wearing a trucker hat, and pit viper sunglasses. and their second photo is always them posing with a fish they just caught. they are always over 30% bf
>>77115759>>77115778What's wrong with BP? I was about to get some soon to try it
>>77116062you can try, but i only help minor acne that is actually breaking outif the acne is already there or a scar, it wont do shit at all
>>77116076Accutane the only solution then?
>>77113146Yeah, you know whatThis dude is 100% honest and his post was fact checked and is true >>77113191Post naked photos of your sister on /b/ or somewhere else and crosslink it here
>>77112799Finally it became somewhat funny when you combined all of this in a single post
why does no one like sarms? I ran rad 140 and had zero side effects and just got bigger and stronger. What's the problem?
>>77114734Just drop the var.If you want to log 99% of nattys year round and maintain muscle just run something like 100 Test and 100 Tren. Throw in an adrol on days you want a great lift or something. If ur scared of tren probably could just sub it for mast, but it wont be as potent at that dose.
how do I push past the fear of injections?my piece of shit dad had my dog euthanized when I was 4 and made me watch just because I left a door open and the dog chewed up his leather briefcase. every time I think of needles I see my dogs face and his eyes rolling up into his head while pissing and shitting all over the table. makes me sick just typing it out.
>>77116139That's generally the plan, but 300 test 150 primo has been wonders. Not gonna fuck with tren nor any 19-nor, I'm a CEO and my mental state is important, but mogging 99.9% of the world is already achieved with my current stack. Was just wondering if I could realistically run it year round with how good my bloods are now.That and def like adrol here and there very rarely but the cartoon gains are real. If I do it on an upper day, my legs look like toothpicks lol
>>77116103I don’t even think Accutane will help scars >>77116171Have you tried getting really drunk before injecting? IM is really simple to not fuck up once you get over the fear. I can do it blind into my quads and the first dozen times I would have a panic attack. Just line it up perpendicular and straight and don’t look bro just slowly apply pressure until you can’t go further then depress plunger.>>77116187Yo can I get a job I am on 400mg tren/wk and can do your dirty work.
>>77116232>>77116103>>77116076Former Accutane user here (I had bad acne as a teen, completely unrelated to roids). This is correct. Accutane does not and is not meant to help scars. That is an entirely different issue.
>>77116256Doesn't tretinoin work well on scars? Accutane is like the same thing but in the oral form. It certainly made my face much younger.
>>77116292you have no idea how many clinic will sell you bogus product to treat scars that have no effectsome people speed thousands upon thousands only to have the scar come back 2 years laterthe best remedy isnt really a remedy, flatten all the scar and get a tattoo to hide them
>>77116062Barely works as monotherapy even at 10%. It's a fairly pussy-ass oxidizer in purported "medicinal" concentrations that even gets mogged by hypochlorous acid wound wash, let alone more schizo-tier ROS generation systems.>>77116103>Accutane the only solution then?Boomer liver poison; therapies in >>77115724 mog it.>>77116232>I don’t even think Accutane will help scars>>77116292>Doesn't tretinoin work well on scars?Adapalene has the best evidence for acne scars, but turmeric plus bromelain had a pretty good clinical trial recently; photo and cryotherapies have some evidence along with corticosteroids and many other agents.
>>77114885>little 5-a-reductase googling this says you have a micropenismy cock is 8 inches even though im 5'9"
>>77116751I'm guessing partial androgen insensitivity syndrome instead, given the high test levels.
You guys were right butter reta really feels much better lol
Ate women
>>77116171 Your dad is a pedo serial killer or something? What a faggot cunt crying baby idiot he is.That said, try shock therapy anon. I. E. Force yourself. It's not big deal and you'll see how easy it will work. Your trauma will progressively fade and die
>>77116232NTA but based>Yo can I get a job I am on 400mg tren/wk and can do your dirty work.
Any experiences with clenbuterol?Any experiences with DHB?Any experiences with Reta and how it changed (for the better or not) your lipids?
>>77116171I watch porn and do it while edgingI don't watch porn any other timeTrying to train myself to associate sexual pleasure with steroids
>>77112778Ipa works. I had my igf1 and gh tested. 4 fold increase on cycle. Not pushing bb levels just want sleep and recovery benefits. Also way cheaper than soma. Lel
>>77117237I would literally leave my well paid unionized job right this second if an anon near me with a physically demanding shittier job but better hours offered me a guaranteed position. The coal mines are whispering to me.
>>77117134Not racis’, just don’t like em
>>77117241DHB is my favorite compound. Good strength gains, good size gains, very dry, minimal effect on e2, great vascularity, mental effects similar to mast, minimal impact on bloods. Basically like a stronger version of primo with some characteristics of mast. The fear mongering about it being harsh on your liver is fake news. I have my own bloods and the bloods of a dozen other guys to back this up. The pip can be real if it wasn’t brewed correctly but most dhb these days is good and this can be mitigated by ED injections and mixing with other compounds. It is not “tren lite” or whatever some claim, just a solid dht-derivative that will actually deliver some gains.Reta took my ldl from ~110 to 85 in three or four months. Didn’t affect hdl at all as far as I can tell.
>>77117134They've been psyopping me lately. Every fucking time someone is driving like a retard on the road and I pass them it's always a woman. I'm accustomed to at least a little diversity but it's been nonstop women this past week for some reason.>>77117639How much Ipa were you pinning, goddamn. I'm guessing you were taking it with CJC?
>>77118195I shoot 12floz IPA once in a while to remind myself it sucks ass.
>>77113755>>77113774
I'm thinking about running 25mg of Proviron/day. Perhaps along with Clomid or Tamoxifen. Before I jump shit to T. Does Proviron really raise libido, improves mood and improve erection quality or is it just a jewish scam?
so whats the deal with the mental sides of tren? is it worth trying it out or should i just avoid it?
>>77112742So the first cycle is just 500test for 12-20 weeks, right?What about second cycle? Dianabol? Anavar?
>>77119331
>>77119331I think the mental sides are kind of overblown, and thats from someone who 8 days ago was having awful paranoia from it. If you are pushing over 400 or even over 300 it is much more noticeable and crazy. Is it worth it? HELL YES>>77119588Babbys first is ya usually 250-500mg test only. Unless you already know what you are doing both in the gym, and you are lean and dieting hard. Then you can add a compound oral or another injectable or higher dose. Generally upping test for second cycle is the choice for beginners so you can manage strictly test side effects and not introduce more test AND another compound. Dbol has it’s place and I don’t think its for casual second cycle use, Anavar is amazing so I will run it every cycle on top of Test base and Tren.
>>77118062Great. Thank you!
>>77119094lots of people say that. i took 100mg ed and didn't notice anything. tried 200mg ed for a month, and also nada. jano report was good too, so don't think it was bunk, unless i got selective scammed, but never heard anything like that about that ugl
>>77119588Test base + Nandrolone is the traditional Patrician choice for the second one
>>77119753Yeah, that's what I've been reading. It works like magic for some people even at the 25mg low dose, but doesn't for others. Thanks lad. Guess I have to try it for myself.
>>77119588test + primo depot (2:1) is 100% the cleanest feeling combo and gives a nice cut physiqueonly side effects are lighter wallet and people calling you a "primosexual" on anonymous message boards
>>77119799godspeed
>>77114811Lmao no horns are there, that's just what's left of his hair sticking up
>>77116125It's just a lack of long term testing and data bruh. we have decades worth of info on test, nothing on sarms. they are also classified as experimental and not yet even approved for human consumption. who knows, maybe you'll be absolutely fine and stay fit as a fiddle in old age. or maybe your organs will explode and you get cancer. there's just no saying yet...im leaning towards them being more on the dangerous side with all these guys trying these new compounds dropping dead lately. but hey I'm just some homo posting absolute bullshit on a Bosnian basket weaving forum, so feel free to disregard my opinion altogether
>>77120014Peptides for muscle are cope but stuff like reta or tirz or bpc157 is good for recovery and weight loss.Just do roids or gh this is why I tell everyone to have clear cut goals on your body before just jumping into injectables.
Will DHT make me taller?
>>77120766No, hgh + aromatase inhibitor before you get out of puberty otherwise gg
Drugs are good mk
>>77120785mr. mackey!
>>77120886I look like this and it's because I don't run Tren.
>>77119792Nandrolone is dogshit and kills your dick.>>77119691>DbolEnjoy your tranny tits.>>77119823>primoShit and expensive compound. Tren clears.
>>77120902>AHHHHHHH I CANT CONTROL MY E2kys
>>77120907You have tranny tits, nigger. kys.
>>77113237>>77113976Post physique, you wont.
I stopped taking roids altogether and I actually feel higher test than I ever have before. I think my body got used to having high test and now just makes more naturally
>>77120941Not that anon but I prefer primo to mast. Mast gives me acne and primo doesn't. Also easier on my lipids.Currently on week 4 of200 tren e/ wk250 test c/ wk200 primo e/ wk25mg proviron ed3iu hgh ed500hcg eod
Just hit 30, how the fuck does everyone get TRT?
>>77121083On the internet illegally.
>>77121083>30if you need trt at this age its over anyone have a /fraud/ way of getting rid of what are basically self harm scars? i have two on my leg from jumping over a barbed wire fence years ago and theyre annoying me
>>77121083Just hit 33, I brew my own.
>>77121167>t. zoomerOwn the scars I love my scars from work and play.
>>77121229true and i do have some that i like but these are just where my shorts end and actually do look like self harm scars and that i probably have more
>>77121243If you aren’t a feminine twink or a woman it’s a cool story for the huzz, and even then some women show that shit off as a “oh look at me i survived heckin suicidal ideations!!” for attention.
>>77121112>>77121168based>>77121167back to plebbit to cry about no one showing up to your birthday parties as a child
>>77121083if you're in the us, there are trt clinics fucking everywhere, and online. or head to google, search for underground lab reviews, find some forums, and start researching good ones. if you find anything that doesnt have a lot of chatter about it, it's a scam. all good ugl's have threads you can easily find with active discussions about their product quality, and other things. most all of them do NOT have websites. you'll either need to email them, or they use telegram/signal/whatsapp. do NOT use a ugl that usesba normie email host, like google/yahoo/whatever. they usually stick to encrypted email services
fuck bros I am getting hot flashes and feel like shit. I guess this is crashed estrogen. I dont have depression or anxiety like a lot of other fags get though at least
>>77120902>Nandrolone is dogshit and kills your dick.Deca dick is the stamp for retards that don't know how to use it/ combine it with a DHT for synergy.
>>77120902Doing 600 test e, 300 npp, 875 hcg, 0.5 caber right now. I'm the horniest I've ever been in my entire life. I've learned several local stable diffusion image generation workflows to generate the gayest, most degenerate furry porn just because my natty twink bf can't keep up with my libido. I have to cum at least 3-4 times per day to have any chance of sleep
>>77120950Why mix c and e?
>>77121356lmao this anon is right ngl
>>77121722IF e2 crashed just take dianabol or TNE
>>77121083Yeah you don't need fucking TRT at 30. You're probably fine without it till 50, I'm serious. if you feel shitty it's probably just because you're a fat fuck, have a terrible diet or don't train right. likely all three. try getting in shape and you'll feel amazing. no drugs can substitute fitness.>t. 43 y/o boomer still benching 315, still not on TRT, feel just like I did at 25
>>77121722get bloodwork TODAY and see where you are atyou might be low e2 because when your e2 is nuked you will have absolutely no doubt in your mind (it is hell on earth)avoid that hell and get your bloodwork TODAY
>>77120902>Shit and expensive compoundexpensive? sure. shit? never heard anything bad about it from the few people I know who actually took it and aren't just larping on anonymous message boards.>Trenon his 2nd cycle? you are either a sadistic asshole or more than likely just a hogwheels clone rp'ing online
>>77122075He's just a pathetic imbecile zoomer, like 99% of all these redditor tier here spamming about tren
>>77122057What are typical low E2 symptoms to watch out for?
>>77122244the only concrete symptoms are drier skin and achy jointsmany people experience low libido, irritability, insomnia and depressionI consider 2-10 pg/mL to be low e2anything less than that is crashed e2 which gives you extreme symptoms to the point where you will think you are dyingif you think you are low now, stop AI,EQ etc for 1 week then get labs. get labs now too if you can afford.
>>77112742Now this is what a true fag looks like.
>>77122260Thanks senpai. Seems like I crashed my E2 on Clomid with AI like a retard kek. I will check the bloods.
>>77122244
>>77122278>AI with clomidWhat in the zoom zoom? You do realize clomid will at best get you to top of normal range, in which case you don't need to bother with AI at allFucking zoomers I swear man
>>77122336He's on clomid. He can't read this
>>77122336>>77122349he already went blind from the clomid
Going to run 250 test 800 deca, for 20wksWish me luck boys
Remember when all you nigs were seething at my rad140 cycle, muh liverCardarine literally counteracts all the liver and cholesterol issues and I forgot to mention thatIt's a psyop to not take these25mg rad140 12.5mg enclo 15mg ac262 30mg mk677 35mg cardarine .1mg t3Feels pretty good man ngl, it's literally a psyop to make you stop roiding
>>77122438But muh heart I can already hear you fags seething 40mg aminotadalafil 35mg cardarine, heart pumps peacefully as fuck, big ass vessels and shiet
>>77122438Sounds extremely homosexualjust suck a dick alreadywhy you skirting around the issue with sarms and not quite roids, trying to tell people your gay but not really commit to the gay lifestyleWe know, you know, and you know we knowIt's ok bruh, some dudes like dick, you clearly REALLY do/fraud/ is a place of acceptance and brotherhood We accept your rampant love of cock, just pin some test and decent roids tho frwagmi
>>77122470Keep coping, growing tits, I'm recomping and my protocol is good for recomping not putting on a ton of estrogenic water
>recomping >sarmsjfc it keeps getting better
>>77122278First of all bro, never do clomid. Always enclomiphene. Clomid is enclomiphene + zuclomiphene. Zuclomiphene is highly estrogenic, it's not meant for men. Men taking clomid have gotten horrific permanent side effects like floaters.Second, on enclomiphene, the actual estrogen number matters much less than the feel. The estrogen being produced is selectively blocked in your body. This means that 40+ pg/ml can be fine, as long as you don't have side effects. If your nipples start burning or itching a lot, you're taking too much enclo and are getting a high estrogen side effect. Same with insomnia.I got insomnia after 8 months on 12.5mg enclo daily. Went away dropping to 6.25mg daily and my test levels were even higher.>>77122336Idk man it's crazy to me how retarded some people are and just start taking random shit without understanding what is going on. Then we gotta come on here and tell them how stupid they are to save them.
>>77121762Are you retarded?
>>77122438I'd explain to you how to read the cardarine studies properly and why it was never brought to market But you're a dumb zoomie, you wouldn't get it anyways
Alright posting again since I was too late in the previous threadI'm running 250 mg test C + 200 mg tren AWant to add a DHT compound, mostly for the mental benefitsWould proviron do anything? I've also been considering winny, apparently it's quite underrated if you don't run it too high to prevent joint issues
>>77121762Dawg its just an ester. Termination half life of c is only 1 more day. Its virtually the same thing. Tldr my source had c in stock so thats what I have.
>>77122414Goodbye penis
>>77122623Hes busy speed running cancer
>>77120950Nice stack, why the proviron?
>>77122628Winny is harsh on liver and lipids. If you want to run a dht do an injectable like mast or primo
>>77119331i've been on 15mg/day baby doses and i feel like a different human, insane confidence, low inhib and things feel effortlesstwo test cycles and a test + primo + var blast didn't come close to feeling this good mentally, it'll probably get worse if i bump it but this is the sweet spot
>>77120950That's not your physique.
>>77120902I’ve run NPP up to 700mg and I never once got deca dick. That’s just a boomer meme leftover from back in the day when they would run deca only without a test base. Which would cause them to have no test from test production shutdown, and therefore erectile dysfunction. The thought process was that since deca was a brand new, synthetic hormone made in a lab, it was superior to testosterone and you didn’t even need it. Basically bro science from the 60s. Use a decent dose of test and you will never get deca dick.
>>77122336>>77122502I'm 50 and thought the doctor knows his stuff but apparently he didn't.
>>77122502nta, but where do you get legit Enclo? don't want to buy pajeet or chinese fakes.
>>77122649Gonna be like 5 weeks at mostI did consider mast too but I wanna keep the DHT dose low, I might just run 100-200 mg thoughAnd I don't feel like primo does shit for me unless running absurdly expensive doses How does mast compare to winny in terms of mental effectts?
>>77122708Umbrella labs if you're in the US they have analysis results posted
>>77122661? I posted no pictures what
>>77122729Primo and mast are 1:1 kek
>>77112742now that Ultima got exposed and they aren't being honest, should I move on to other sources? was thinking of pharmacom or driada (EU )has anyone had good experiences with these ugls?
Thoughts?>>77123101
IM I HELL.Middle of a tren cycle and had to skip a week of lifting to fly for an in laws funeral (got called heartless by everyone for asking if i could just arrive on the day). Now home and one of the fat fucking attendees gave me a cold that’s stopped me working out or eating for a week. Normies and their shit are such fucking gain killers.
>>77122657You aren’t feeling anything but placebo on that level anon
>>77123170mate just drink some orange juice and take a sauna
>>77122482They don't aromatize nggr, I can literally see improvement on a daily basis>>77122623There were other studies that showed up to 30mg was well tolerated in humies, the rats were genetically modified to be predisposed to cancer and took a massive dose in proportion to bodyweight
>take 60mg dapoxetine 3 hours before sex>still was able to bustwhat gives
What GHKCU dose should I use for acne scars?
>>7711909440 y/o boomer here. Adding 50 mg ed proviron to 150 mg/wk TRT has noticeably improved libido and boner quality
>>77122692Damn that doc did you dirty then.>>77122708There are tons of telehealth companies in the US that will prescribe it to you. I would take a look and compare various companies and what they charge. Since it's prescribed you will get a real 503A pharmacy producing it.>>77123695Dose should be 2mg total daily. One of the researchers that created the glow stack is a plebbitor and has posted extensively about it. That was their recommendation and they said to take it 3 times a day.
>>77122322Well put>>77122605>>77122634Jesus I really can't stand all these imbeciles here anymore. Is like a congregation of all dumbest people in the world
>>77115618>go on keto diet>take accutane>take GHKCU and BPC-157>rub antifungals and antibacterials on yourself>impossible to have a blemishevery dermatologist is retarded kike
How long does it take for mast P to kick in?
>>77124215Tell us how using C for test and E for tren and primo matters, genius.
>>77112742thinking of stacking Mots-c with Test-cyp
>>77124378>>77112742redpill me on Thymosin alpha 1 , sermorelin , Epithalon, Mots-c , KPV and Nad+which one that actually work and not placeboo
How many of you ship to a PO Box instead of your house? Idk how to feel about picking stuff up on camera but I don't have a mail box now
>>77123170dog you can sweat out that sickness in one night with Tren sweats and a heated blanket.
How many of these have you faggots pounded
>>77124692>FrE@KiN' $8.00 DOLLARZ & FIDDY-NYE non-¢-CENT>in our foul year of the cooking skill issues (((2026)))>for a measly 1020kcalSuch a ripoff I'll probably try like one before they discontinue it for poor sales within 2 months.>t. cooks better burgers from grocery stores for less than half the price
>>77124383Good looking guys who troon out will forever perplex me. Perhaps its the perks of living life on Creative Mode.
>>77124771It's not perplexing they are sick people who are horribly abused and misled by faggots and weimarian pederasts.
>>77124791Nah, the abused excuse doesnt really seem to fit, we got good looking and likely affluent guys doing this, but the Weimarian internet certainly is responsible. Trooning is an affluent disorder.Maybe they do it as a means of avoiding Twink Death.
>>77124748Pro tip order it with no veg on itThe fried onions, beef and sauce is probs best version of itDid you know this is a permanent menu item in UK and Ireland lol and these fucks have the nerve to insult merica
>>77124383>SermorelinUseless, close to placebo effect for close to same cost as other GHRH mimic peptides. CJC no DAC + Ipa > Tesa + Ipa > Sermorelin + Ipa. Tesa is useless too btw>NAD+Useless, placebo that doesn't actually have any proven study at all>The restTry them and see if you notice a difference but I would guess no for all of them.
>>77124810This is exactly how I imagine that rad140 fat fuck looking wtf
Does HCTZ work for roid bloat? Im only on 500mg test rn but Im bloated af.Also its OTC where I live so thankfully I dont have to get it from brown indians.
>>77124839You don't have to imagine what I look like I've posted numerous pictures my skull and body is extremely dimorphic and my skull circumference is top 1 percentile despite being 5'9"
>>77124881where the fuck are we supposed to buy santa hats?asking early because I bought and returned four separate santa hats that were supposed to be "big" last year.
>>77124496dont forget the dnp. make him BURN
>>77122278SERM tranny kill yourself
>>77122438I hope you're the SARMfag that dies and gets them banned
>>77124692Zero I don't eat fast food sloppa.
>>77124855Probably not a ton but it’ll help your BP
>>77124855>Does HCTZ work for roid bloat? Im only on 500mg test rn but Im bloated af.jfc how do you retards manage to fuck up 500mg of test so badly?You really dont know what's causing the "roidbloat" and how to correct it?Retards like you are why roids will never be legal.
>>77124303Like two days to see effects, a week for peak effect
>>77124303It "kicks in" as soon as you inject it.Or do you think it just lies dormant in your body for a period of time and then it begins to take effect?
>>77124692holy fuck I saw these were shown and was super excited and forgot about them, thank you anon I will be eating probably 2 or 3 tomorrow and count it as a cheat day.
>>77112742drawing 23ginjecting 27gam i a faggot
>>77125052Lol>>77124966Why mad>>77124920Lern to sew
>>7712536327g takes forever for me with anything other than mct oil base in the tiniest amountsLike I got shit to do nigga and I'm pounding 2.5ml test/eq/deca in my 3ml syringe 3x a week and 2ml of L-carnitine daily, ain't nobody got time for that shit with a 27g needleI'll say this though, if it works keep doing it, nothing is intrinsically wrong with 27gI draw with 21g and inject with 25g personally, but you do youwagmi
>>77122708Kimera and Swiss seemed fine to me
>>77125363I draw 21 and inject 23 (1.5" in glutes) because I'm cheap and lazy and that's what they sell in my third world pharmacy
>>77125730Shit i use a 29g lmao. Tryna reduce scar tissue as much as I can. Don't care if it takes ages. MCT oil carrier and I warm it up first.
>>77125363I draw and inject with 25g, I feel like the injecting is slow and annoying I can’t imagine 27g.
Told my primary doc I've been on trt from underground labs for a year and he referred me to an endocronologist so I could get a legal script. I take 140mg when cruising and my total t and free t are a bit higher than the upper limit of the normal range (total is low 1,000s) so I doubt the new doc is going to prescribe me enough for 140 a week. How to convince him to give me more gear?
>>77125978What makes you think you need 140mg on TRT? You greedy bastard.
>>77125989I look and feel better on 140
>>77125978i'm in the middle of my 1st blast. Chatgpt said l wouldnt lose much gains cruising at 100mg. Is this true?
>>77125996There are Mr. Olympia competitors who cruise at 150 I doubt you need 140
>>77123267You're reading the cardarine studies wrong, I knew you would zoom zoomLook up human equivalent doseRead the studies againApply concept of human equivalent dose to study (they spell it out for you but you're a zoomer so take your time)Stop taking cardarineIf cardarine had a safety profile anywhere close to good it would be a billion dollar drug on the same level as GLP-1s
>>77126027and here I was thinking about cruising at 250mg
>>77126027and arnold only took low dose primo and a couple dbol a day, right?
>>77112742One of the biggest dudes ever due to his structure.Roids, for sure but he's also a talent.
What dose viagra do you guys use?
>>77126177>roids for sureWhoooaaaa no way?!
Viagra is weird for me. 50mg used to work great, sometimes as little as 25mg. Now I barely get hard with 100mg. I'm on 150mg of test/week. I'm begining to think it's due to high blood pressure, since I'm coughing like a retard and get hot/red.
>>77126396>Can't get hard on 100mgEither your viagra is bunk or something is seriously wrong.
I've tried viagra in the past but the side effects were annoyingI can get by just fine with 50 mg tadalafil and a cockring
>>77126441>50 mgmeant 5 mg
>>77126396man measures his blood pressure in PSI. go get checked lmao.
>>77126036wait wait wait you're telling me the billion dollar pharma giant DOESN'T want to waste tens of millions on researching drugs? The zoomie will never understand that there were SIGNIFICANT health risks which is why they cut their losses.
>>77126354hard to say, we need further evidence.
>>77126396you need to lose weight. I had the same issues when I overbulked at got fatter, at 235lbs at 5'11 Viagra didn't work for shit I had better luck with Cialis but it was still bad. going down to 190lbs fixed the issues for me.
>>77126469The jewish logic you're using is hilarious, steroids are basically 100% upside for like half the male population yet you have to jump through hoops to get them and they're illegalEver considered that they don't want you to be healthy, giving dysgenic rats a 10x megadose for 18 months straight caused cancer which they were already genetically modified to get anyways
>>77124308You can't even understand the original question you fucking imbecile. Don't talk to me
>>77126732Answer him!
What's worse for your testicles and post cessation testosterone baseline, tranny hrt or roid abuse? Without all the 10 trillion things you have to do to minimize the damage
>>77127127if you are looking for information about transitioning genders this place aint it kid
>>77127138Just curious for a guy I know who detrooned and is lifting. Saw a thread earlier today about enclomiphene and clomid and some guy was saying clomid was enough to fix your nuts alone in both cases.Doesn't the test boost from clomid stop post cycle if you stop it so you'd crash to a lower baseline?
went to recap a slin pin and the needle went sideways through the cap and poked my finger. they're cheaping out on plastic now or what?
>>77127164That happened to me once somehow, I really couldn't figure out how it happened but it was 1 time out of 60ish injections? Not a big deal.
>>77127164>>77127174dude, same! no fuckin clue. been through thousands of these little fuckers, and only had it happen the one time
>>77127190I was on the phone with my nigga when I was pinning and he cracked a joke, I had a giggle and somehow pulled out the needle and poked my skin BARELY and that shit sucked.
started reta and immediately stopped using caffeineinsane
>>77127164>>77127174Hasn't happened in a while. Just be more careful
Got bloodwork done, hoping for trtFirst two twsts were 12.8 and 11.1 nmol/l, and my most recent was 10.7But on the third they tested prolactin and it was 44.4 (over double the reference range)How cooked am I, anyone know wtf this means? Shouls i avoid steroids in general if im predisposed to elevated prolactin?
>>77127127Long term male contraception via hormone suppression was 100% reversible in the studies it was attempted, even in elderly men, although the older you are the longer restarting natural production can takeNo idea about hrt but I think restarting your test would be the least of your worries considering the potential physiological changes that transitioning targets
>>77127252Enter it into ChatGPT or another LLM it's useful for gear advice
>>77126732Dumb retarded nigger
>>77126707Alright bud I'll try one more time. Just so you know, I have literally no personal benefit in trying to help you, and this is the last time I will. I will summarize what you fail to understand about the studies:>The HEQ (human equivalent dose) given to the mice was ~70mg, not a "10x megadose">The mice were not genetically modified to get cancer, they were genetically modified to speed up the formation of already present cancers. This is done in many pharma studies with mice. Your 30mg dose is the equivalent to taking ~half the dose that those mice took. Sure, you're not genetically modified to speed up cancer growth, but those mice weren't any more likely to get cancer than other mice. Other than the economic arguments I already made, these FACTS should be enough to deter any sane person from taking cardarine. If you don't understand what I'm saying and want to continue to be an arrogant, retarded fucking zoomer my advice to you is to double or even triple your dose. I am trying to help you, despite your continued arrogance and willful retardation. Good day, zoom zoom.
I took 25mg of Cialis before a doctor appointment and they didn’t even check my blood pressure.
>>77126732You're actually fucking retarded. Never post again.
>>77127214whats the correlation?
>>77127252bros on SSRI's for sure
>>77127402You're trying to reason with a SARMfag...
>>77127438Yeah I don't know what's wrong with me, he's probably going to double down and tell me that jews want him to eat cardarine or somethingidk I'm just sick of ironyposting I guess
>>77127437Im unironically not, shich is why its so fucked. Im otherwise healthy (all other bloodowork well in the reference ranges)
>>77127458Gotta talk to the doc and don't let him jew you around
Eptidespay our cessation? Got bicep tendonitis, need some bpc but dont know who is reliable. Do I just buy from the same dude I get my other stuff from and pay the premium?
>>77127402>genetically modified to be predisposed to get cancerLook the mice got cancerLiterally over twice the highest dose that most people will take for 18 months straight if we grant you that argument even though metabolism isn't the end all be all when you're megadosing 10x weight adjustedAre you going to convert 18 months of rat lifespan to human lifespan as wellYou really do think you're smart
>>77127438I get no aromtization my cycle is equivalent to 400mg test or moreAnd I'm not retaining a shit ton of waterSee some of us didn't start as dysgenic 140lbs we are already big
>>77127526no it's not you fucking retard, who are you trying to convince lmaoyou started off as a big retard
>>77127529Some of us were 140lbs in 8th grade and gradually when we became men we got to 180 senior year then 200 and so onBut since you have always been small as fuck you've made estrogenic water mass your entire identity, sad mf
>>77127522>>77127526>>77127522>you think you're smart?Dude compared to you I am a titan of intellect, I mog you wholeheartedly and completely. Not only do I mog you intellectually, I would bet the house that I mog you in literally any pursuit in life, athletic or otherwise.I legitimately think you should double or triple your dose at this point.Read this and tell me a fucking retard didn't write it, I dare you.> if we grant you that argument even though metabolism isn't the end all be all when you're megadosing 10x weight adjustedAgain, I suggest upping the cardarine dose to at least 100mg, don't hold back zoom zoom, you got this.
>>77127542No arguments detectedEasy victory, sad bitch
>>77127542you have a nice writing style don't waste it on the SARM retard my man
>>77127550Dunning Kruger 100 iq all around
>>77127552>100IQ Anon I have bad news for you. Your IQ is pretty close to the HEQD used on those mice in that study. Now considering you're retarded, I bet you STILL don't know how much that is. lmao
>>77127556If a rat is given cardarine in proportion to 10x their bodyweight and a human is given it in proportion to 1x their bodyweightWho achieves a higher peak concentration per lb of bodyweight
>anons literally dogpiling a mentally ill tranny with metastatic cancerOk guys can we get back to talking about real steroids or what?
>>77127558>all he had to do was look up human equivalent dose, admit he made a mistake (mostly to himself, who gives a fuck) and his body would likely recover and be fine in the long run>he triples downI agree with the other anon, double your dose
>>77127498you can find bpc all over the web. google it, click the first research chemicals site that pops up, then google reviews for that site. if you don't get a million results pointing to people posting about it, dont is it
>>77127578been cruisin 160 test 300 tren. pretty comfy. decent gains. nine weeks now, and bloods are mostly fine. prolactin's on the high side, but in range. no ai. i do take low doses of a statin and bp med though. didnt want to look like a tomato
>>77127581I disagree I think he should triple it so he gets triple the benefit>>77127578100% we need to ban SARM and bullshit compound discussion. SARMiggers go home this is a TEST neighborhood.
>>77127686Tren neighborhood actually.
>>77127686How big are your biceps?
>>77127581Didn't answer the question, seething 100 iq
Will SERMs do anything if my test is already healthy?
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Do you guise deload during a cycle?
>>77128391No.You're supposed to go heavy until you get CNS fatigue and tendonitis then cruise until you recover.Retard.
