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how to recover from extreme long term chronic stress? I've been through a very long fucked up situation and I think it's kind of fried my nervous system and nuked my hormones or some shit. It's fucked up my recovery and sex drive has fell off a cliff. body is in like a constant state of CNS burnout. motivation is dead. I still lift and I've been swimming regularly but mindfulness, good sleep and exercise is not making it bounce back
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>>77113358
bamp
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>>77113358
It's all in your head buddy, think positive or perish in misery
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Start being unbelievably selfish. If the stress is coming from other people or their problems then cut them out of your life, a person has enough shit of their own to deal with without npc faggots dumping their load on to you. Lie to people if you have to, do anything so long as you're looking after number one 99% of the time. I don't care of your own mother needs to go to the hospital, you should be at home getting high and wanking after an epic full body workout. Don't let any fucker drag you down on your way to the stars.
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>>77113674
I don't think it is all I my head in this case it's the physical issues that are of concern. My mind has come to terms with shit and mentally I'm good but it's like my body is still stuck in emergency mode
>>77113689
do you think this will actually help or just make me further detached from my humanity? I get the feeling that hedonism is not the way
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I'm also curious. I spent the last few months with health anxiety and I definitely feel like my body is full of tension and on edge and it's manifesting physically
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Get away from 5G towers
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nothing you can do bro its like tendonitis or something. Just rest and time. My CNS got nuked from spending 6 months in prison and it probably took me 2 years to get back to almost normal
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100ml oral ethanol
step-up the dosage weekly cease treatment once the symptoms remit
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>>77113795
based
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>>77113770
how did prison cause this, constant hypervigilance?
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>>77113721
People in your life should offer you something and it's a two way street. If anyone is sapping your energy or ruining your health they are a burden and you need to ask yourself if they really give a fuck about you or are just a parasite and a leech. The level of stress you describe isn't normal or acceptable outside of exceptional circumstances where you have willingly chosen to accept responsibility such as in marriage and fatherhood. A man has zero responsibilities or obligations outside of those and has every right to put himself first in all other cases.
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>>77113878
yeah its next level stressful to be in prison. You can never show weakness or you will get fucked with. Then if you get fucked with you either fight or youre a bitch. If you fight then youll get more time. So you have to remain in a state of being like confident and strong and respectful but intolerant to disrespect from anyone else.

There is so much out of your control you are powerless in a lot of ways
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>>77113358
take a heroic dose of LSD and climb to the top of a tall building, that will fix you right up
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>>77113897
damn dude makes me remember primary school with fucking niggers

if it wasn't for that I would probably be a normie

and I can't get over the mindset myself, when outside

best of luck broski
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have we tried therapy
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>>77113911
it doesnt fucking work except for hylics. if you have any self-awareness then the methods they prescribe will literally not work.

i will not use zoloft to fucking do my basic chores. "therapy" is a scam that fails any serious cases of trauma like rape or being a war veteran. basically, therapy is nothing more than a normie initiation ritual for people that didn't get it the first time. Won't work on any serious case, and will most likely require lifelong adherence and medication.

Yeah, in the past it was the priests that did that kind of thing, and now to imagine people go to university for that crap. I know your baiting but these are my thoughts on the subject.
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>>77113721
I have lived a very stressful life. I can't remember the last time I was calm or at peace. 31 years old and suffer from PTSD and anger issues.
What made my situation more liveable was to limit my contact with my family and other people I'm not compatible with.
Most people with sub 120 IQ bring stupid problems. Even above 120 its people with fucked up problems, but not as bad in my opinion. At least then its limited to themselves for the most part. NPCs are unaware losers that just trauma dump on you/pull you into retarded issues.

Its another thing if they provide you value but even that has its limit. If someone is taking 100 from you and giving you 70 back, or even 100, you're better off without them.

Doesn't always mean that they are bad or you're bad. It's just that some people are not compatible
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>>77113922
okay you REALLY sound like you need therapy
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>>77113933
(you)
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>>77113922
Therapy =/= being prescribed anti depressants and being told to fuck off, retard
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>>77113935
you are 13 years old
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>>77113938
back to plebb1t nigger

and you can stop samefagging you h0m0sexual

maybe you need more therapy to not get triggered by my post that exposes how useless therapy is, spending time on 4chan lmao
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Daily breath work, or better said: Learn how to breathe properly and cultivate that habit. Strictly nose breathing (in and out), diaphragmatic breathing ("belly breathing"), keep a steady rhythm (five to seven seconds in and out). I do it while going on my long walks and when I'm in bed, but usually I try to breathe like that as much as possible. It does wonders for my nerves, mood, concentration, energy and sleep.
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>>77113944
Calm down, you just seemed genuinely confused about what therapy even is. Did you know someone giving you cognitive behavioral therapy would (almost always) not be able to prescribe you medication? Therapists can be good or bad, but good therapy can be useful to a lot of people. It doesn't seem like you've tried it (at least from an effective therapist which I admit can be hard to find) and are writing it off.
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>>77113960
>CBT
Not even who you're arguing with but confirmed NPC
>sorry Mr patient the worlds not fucked and people don't actually keep doing terrible things. you're just nooticing wrong
right sure
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>>77113960
feeling called out? first samefagging and insulting and then going on the defensive. You really must be a sensitive homosexual to distort my words like that, or you lack reading comprehension.

Anyway, I'm done with you and with this show more maturity than to engage with someone that doesn't engage with me. If you were so honest you would have typed out your (honestly shitty) response initially to my reasoned post, but then you came with drivel like this>>77113942
or>>77113938.

How very humane of you, treating someone you supposedly want to help that supposedly needs therapy like that.

I'll just say this, your genuinely soulless, don't attach value to therapy hoping it will cure you. It will just help you cope, your done for anyway.
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>>77113969
Sounds like you had a shitty therapist, that doesn't resemble CBT at all.
>>77113973
You are acting a little more triggered than me friend.
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>>77113906
Prison and primary school with blacks is almost the same fucking shit except you get to go home at 3 and the teachers are not quite as sadistic as prison guards lol
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>>77113988
yep, sending intelligent white kids or anyone intelligent for that matter to the zoo should be a crime.

what makes you live? like, i dont care about saving my country at all actually, but i dont want to be a hedonist either. just asking.
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>>77113358
If you're willing to splash out, get a full package spa day and relax
this will 100% nuke your stress completely and the benefits will stay with you for weeks, but it's expensive as fuck
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idk what your life circumstances are that led you to this point OP, but consider looking into TRE.
incredibly powerful stuff. i know reddit is hated here, but the subreddit for it and it's wiki is the place to start besides looking up youtube videos.
do not overdo it. can't be overstated enough to start very low and slow with the practice.
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You need your liver to have sufficient bile flow, and have binders to grab it on the way out
B1 + B5 + Magnesium with enough fiber, and avoiding anything outside that makes your digestive tract spaz out
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Time to start Slothmaxxing OP.

You need to move at 50% of your normal speed, not just your walking but ALL of your movements. Eat slower, type slower, load the dishwasher slower, brush your teeth slower. EVERYTHING.

You can condition yourself out of the chronic high-stress state this way, but you may end up having to finally deal with the actual exhaustion or sickness that comes with releasing stored stress.

Don't buy anything, just do this first and humming (like hemi-sync). It's free.
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>>77113358
I went through a couple years of constant anxiety. I'm talking literally thinking of killing myself every night, planning how and where I would do it. Things changed for me and I realised worrying hadn't accomplished anything. Best thing for it is to keep a good routine going so when the next opportunity presents itself you'll be ready.
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>>77114078
>you may end up having to finally deal with the actual exhaustion or sickness that comes with releasing stored stress.
what do you even mean by this? I get slowing down will help break the pattern but some released sickness from calming down sounds not very legitimate
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>>77114039
what is TRE
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>>77114039
>>77114248
ok I found it and read into it a bit. Is this shit legit? everyone is talking about how intense it is. What is your practice exactly?
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>>77113358
Omega 3
Magnesium
Vitamin C
Vitamin D
Sauna
Masseus
Get dicked sucked
Smoke some weed
Boof some 2cb
Stab a cop inbetween the ribs while listening to flying beagle and hallucinating from 2cb
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>>77113358
You and me both bro. At Christmas my [wife] confessed to a lot of absolute awful shit, ranging from faking illness both physical and mental for attention to fucking me up me after surgery then legitimately gaslightingme to believe it was a dream. And porn. A lot of secret porn use. [She] revealed YEARS of this shit, a whole marriage of confessions. For the first month I swear my resting HR was just always high and I could feel my pulse in my whole body, fucked up sleeping, feeling dizzy and light headed a lot. Now after 2 months my hair is falling out in big swatches, I'm having harsh mood swings, my body aches more, and the cycles of rise and fall are extreme. When its supposed to lower it just crashes to the floor and I'm having night sweats and severe depression, when its supposed to increase again it hits the ceiling and I'm having night sweats, chest pains, and all of my reproductive organs ache. I'm so tired. I'm so tired unless its midnight and then I can't sleep, but I can't force myself to lift anymore. I keep saying that I will because I know that it's good for me and I don't want to lose mass, but at the same time I just can't force myself to. The only thing I've been able to force myself to do is doing long rocks and long walks because cardio, especially gentle cardio, has just been much easier. It does help me feel better to do it, but it's the only thing I can do because I'm alone.
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>>77113358
Having been in a similar situation (three year sufferer of "FND" (otherwise known as my fucking nigger Healthcare system being too fucked to do anything), find an occupational therapist and talk it through with them.
Luck, tell grok to be your occupational therapist.
You really have to scale back a lot of things in life in order to make progress, and gradually expose yourself to things over and over.
Do not let like doctors try and give you antidepressants.
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>>77113928
If they take 100 and then give 100, what's the problem? You would be very upset if they took 150 and gave 100. So why are you upset that they're giving equally? Same idea goes for trauma dumping for me. I see trauma dumping as someone completely unprompted just spewing horrendous shit at you, like standing in an elevator with someone and they turn, look you'd dead in the eyes, and say that they were raped in an elevator when they were five years oladnd then start going into details about it when you did not ask, and it was in no way related to the conversation. If someone shares a hard time with me, I'll share a hard time with them, and if I'm sharing a hard time with them, then I don't see it as trauma dumping if they're trying to relate. It's only really inappropriate if they do that constantly, or if it seems like they're trying to outdo me with trauma, or their "trauma" is nonsense ("I watched my sibling die in front of me." "Oh yeah, I once had a kid take my ice cream. It was horrible. I totally understand where you're coming from.")
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I did HRV training for a while because I didn't know what to do with a heart rate monitor I got. It seemed to work, I made the number go down at least (or up I don't remember). Ain't got time to sit for 20 minutes looking at a circle though. I read a book that was recommended by the app the science babble sounded legit to me.

I should probably get back to doing it. I have been aggressively procrastinating and avoiding checking email, bank account etc for months. It feels like the end of the line for me. I know what I'll find there.
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>>77113950
Actually helpful. Thank you.
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I really don't think that this is actually legit. Sounds nice in practice, sounds like something very helpful, but looking at pictures it's just faggots on yoga mats saying that this exercise is so intense their whole body shakes and then they cry and feels so much better afterwards. I could just go lift heavy in the gym and get myself to shake and tremble uncontrollably. And then I'd feel like a man about it too. This looks like hippie shit.
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>>77114313
I know what you mean but I've also observed the actual mechanism in animas in the past. They do intense shaking after extreme events like escaping predators. I've also see it occur in actual predators it's a thing bears do after stressful events. Animals just literally shake pretty vigorously until the energy is released. Not like a dog shaking I mean as described in TRE for extended periods. whether it actually applies to humans or not is debatable but I see the potential and logic in it more than a lot of other hippy shit
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>>77113922
>>77113358
psychiatry works if it's based on Jungian ideas or anything not entirely kiked, neurotic and anti human.

however there is a massive difference between understanding a problem and "feeling" a problem and shifting your perspective to a degree where you figure out the antidote to your suffering.

after now well over 10 years of deep suffering and successive complete nervous system overload and fuckery which also rendered me unable to even work in the last 3 years, I have had an actual breakthrough with lsd therapy with a doctor who is trustworthy and not a retard like most of them.

I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to anyone, because there are other factors to consider, but I can say that it did more for me than anything else, and I've really tried it all.
now I can slowly live the way I'm supposed to and my system is recovering and healing slowly and steadily. I can even lift weights again without being completely messed up and shot for a week.

I hope you find whatever works for you. Never give up and btw you are worthy of kindness
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>>77114244
nta but you have a lot to learn about life if this confuses you or sounds like bs to you
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>>77114359
I can see it but, I'm looking at actual crybaby hippies and women on yoga mats and that really turns me off
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>>77114369
There is not some mystical reserve of negative juice in your body that gets released when you move slowly. I understand taking time to process things you've been putting on the back burner but don't come in lording about your comment on acting like a sloth
>>77114374
same but fuck em
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>>77114359
Yes but they do it after the event is over and they get it done with. So why should I do this for more than 1 session if it works?

>>77114364
Im the hylic guy you replied to. I find this very interesting because after I got into a burnout I couldn't exercise normally anymore without getting symptoms of a massive sore throat the next day. I'm luckily over that, but recovery is very slow and I still can't workout at old capacity and in all honesty I probably will never get back to that youthful state again.

In any case, what were some important findings that allowed you to TRULY take it easy and let your body recover? That shit sounds so simple on paper but fucks me up. I just can't slow down man.

So any tips/wisdom in general, or pertaining to my above problem, are deeply appreciated. This is the type of stuff I believe works.

>>77114369
I believe this, the slowness is nice and becomes warmth, but what about the intense neck tension. It's really intense for some reason. Also a little in the gut. Happens when I slow down and enter that cozy laziness.


I hate it that I'm so fucked
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>>77114382
>Yes but they do it after the event is over and they get it done with. So why should I do this for more than 1 session if it works?
I suppose the theory is that because humans have been socially conditioned out of doing it the build up of tension doesn't just blow out and fix everything at once. Like lifting for years and becoming rigid isn't fixed by hitting the masseuse one time. I think the long term idea is more about mentally conditioning you to be more attuned to your body's instinctive reactions. I mean in theory anyway but obviously retards will take it too far and over exaggerate if only for their own self validation
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>>77113358
>how to recover from extreme long term chronic stress?
eight months.
Please be careful. I love to stay productive. I'm in school now which is a very productive zone . My life has fallen apart before but I always keep it together somehow. A "Total War" campaign on one of those series or my OSRS account feels like a job which gets me through lulls. But I can't become dependent on those for normal fucking life.
Walk a middle course!
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>>77114359
I do shake under extreme stress but that's because I feel deep fried, my heart is going apeshit my blood pressure is sky high my stress hormones are sky high. The most extreme stress I ever felt I just went catatonic for a bit. I just collapsed and I couldn't move, I couldn't talk, I just stared off and it felt like a dream in a vat of soup. Breathing was shallow and slow, but I didn't feel like I needed air. Everytime my heart beat I felt it throughout my body, chest then I could feel the blood pushed through my limbs. I just felt like I was dying.
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>>77114403
What situation could cause this bro? This is like how someone about to be executed would feel?

Closest I ever got to this was when I was in the military and I had to take piss tests but I would get piss shy and I could not go. And they would literally have to be looking at my dick to see the piss come out. And I just could not relax myself enough to piss no matter how much I wanted to. This developed into some kind of phobia I eventually was dishonorably discharged cause I couldn't pee in front of people.
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>What situation could cause this bro?
spending time with my wife!
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>>77113358
Meditation, maybe a couple of neuro transmitters supplements like 5htp and gaba.

Maybe some psychedelics if your mental health will allow it, mushrooms specifically
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>>77114416
My husband confessed to years of lies and seeing an escort on my birthday which he lied about. He confessed to that after I found 4 dating/hookup apps. I found them because I got his hamster account, and realized he used a secret email, so then I went through that email inbox to see all the verification codes. Then I went through his onion browser history to see escort sites. All while avoiding sex with me and claiming it was low libido, more strange all the women looked enough like me to be a sister. That just about killed me, I still feel that pain in my chest thinking about it. Like the wind is knocked out of me.
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>>77114364
>>77114422
Shiiiiiit I've heard and SEEN too many cases of psychedelics driving people insane and inducing permanent schizotypical traits
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>>77114382
>what about the intense neck tension. It's really intense for some reason. Also a little in the gut.
neck and gut are two main areas where we "hold" tension and stress. emotional stress that is.
no one knows why exactly, but this is commonly understood.

how to improve that is to get rid of the main source of stress in the first place. now, HOW to do that is really up to your individual history, temperament and life experience.

>In any case, what were some important findings that allowed you to TRULY take it easy and let your body recover? That shit sounds so simple on paper but fucks me up. I just can't slow down man.

I know, it is very hard. thats what i meant by "feeling" these things out. it's easy to understand things rationally, it's another thing entirely to truly reach down and understand things emotionally.

like I said, I was very fortunate to get in touch with a doctor who is licensed and experienced with doing lsd therapy. this allowed me to bypass the analytical mind and truly get to the bottom of some things on a purely emotional level.

for me, it was realising that I am allowed to exist and I am actually worthy of being loved and that love in general is the key to basically everything. and in order to love, it's also import to "let go". or better said, only by letting go and going with the flow, can love even properly express itself in the first place.

I suppose this might all sound very nebulous and esoteric, but I can't really explain it better in a short form. you can leave me an anonymous email if you want and I'd be happy to give you any pointers I can.

>>77114451
yes, that is why I explicitly said I wouldn't just recommend it to anyone.
I was never into drugs and always afraid of psychedelics. I did this at 35 so Ive had ample time and proper life experience and introspection to know who I am and what is valuable. After experiencing it I completely get why some people come out of it weird, if they aren't prepared
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>>77114440
that is proper FUCKED, man.

i really hope you can recover from this, learn and understand that it is not because you are broken or bad, but because he has severe emotional issues and that you can learn to love again
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>>77113358
Just got through this, it happens to me every couple years. Honestly I can't say there isn't a risk to this but it works for me. I simply take xanax everyday for like 2-4 weeks, while getting as healthy as possible and not letting anything spike my cortisol. Right back to normal after. I can go into more detail if needed.
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>>77114498
I wanna believe you came out unscathed but something about that text wall feels... A bit zany.
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>>77114504
I am both logical and emotional, I know this isn't a "me" thing but I also feel extremely rejected and defective. Stupid. Feelings suck dick though, because that physical feeling of extreme distress returns. I refuse to be medicated, and I'm iffy at best on real therapy actually functioning as intended. I don't want to be talked to like ChatGPT where I'm just getting patted on the ass and told I'm so brave and great and nothing is my fault. Honestly, I just want to stop feeling like shit. I can't complete my lifting routines, I can't maintain consistency with running. I either perform fantastic or I or n out if steam and crash midway, if I can even go out to the gym or trail. My sleep suffers, my menstrual is absolutely nuked. I'm hoping with enough time it'll all settle. I still need time anyhow because I gave him 12-18 months to get his shit together and see if I can really move past it all. My 'sique is gonna suffer so badfor the next few years... I'm gonna get skinny skinny or skinny fat at this rate.
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>>77113358
What actually was/is the source of stress? Will it be back or is this a one time thing?
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>>77114421
kek good one lad
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>>77113358
this is going to sound like a shitpost, but have you tried fucking relaxing?

Like roll your shoulders bro, release your asshole a bit.
how often are you just clenching constantly?
>inb4 you aren't clenching constantly
bullshit, 98% correlation that people who are chronically anxious have nervous system responses where they will randomly tighten muscles even if they are unaware.
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>>77114519
>zoomer shocked and confused when someone actually cares and doesn't lose interest after a picosecond
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>>77114276
Damn dude. I think the lesson is, always expect the worse from women, accept it or be willing to walk away. Being completely at peace with divorce ironically means it probably won't happen, especially if your wife senses genuinely that you won't hesitate to GTFO.
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>>77114276
Google "kidney yin deficiency". If this doesn't fit all of your symtoms, google "blood deficiency tcm".
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>>77115052
the lesson is actually to vet people properly and sharpen your instincts, be more aligned with your true self so you don't entangle yourself with people who are bad for you
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>>77113721
>or just make me further detached from my humanity? I get the feeling that hedonism is not the way
Stop reading so many manwhas.
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>>77114295
>like standing in an elevator with someone and they turn, look you'd dead in the eyes, and say that they were raped in an elevator when they were five years oladnd then start going into details about it when you did not ask
Why would you care about that? Just say "Who asked?" and go your merry way.
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>>77114244
It's cope by people who cannot let go of their beloved memes, like vegans shitting their guts out and claiming it's detox or ketolards going blind and claiming it's normal.
If something makes you feel shit, stop doing it.
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>>77114440
Just be less fat. They looked like you 20 lbs ago, simple as.
Also men cheating isn't bad, only women cheating is, get used to it cupcake.
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>>77114504
>learn and understand that it is not because you are broken or bad, but because he has severe emotional issues
Nah it is because she is broken and bad.
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>>77114276
Your energy is low that's why your body doesn't feel lile lifting.
Divorce and relax for half a year then your energy will come back.

also lol @ trusting women and marrying in this day and age, chalk it down as life experience and do better next time.
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>>77115130
I'm BMI 22, body fat 22%. Some were fatter than me. Whyvisnt it wrong for men to cheat?
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>>77115189
>>77115189
it's not good for men or women to cheat but realistically they do it because there is something you are not fulfilling whether it's your fault or not. Men don't tend to cheat on women who are out of their league. You can't beat the best option. But the saying goes no matter how hot a woman is someone is behind her sick of her bullshit. It's not necessarily your fault he cheated on you, but it is your fault you ended up with someone who cheated on you. Him cheating on you with fatter or uglier women suggests this is somewhat your own fault
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>>77115260
They all looked like me. You wanna know what I did? I pressed him for sex because he wouldn't out out. I wanted more than just every week or two. So I got more pushy. His story is that he's scared of sex, he's scared of disappointing me and pressure to perform. I thought men wabtedcit all the time, I thought men liked all the sexy things like kink and sexy outfits, so I did my best to meet that. It was still "No" 70% of the time. I guess I'm just too scary, I know I'm attractive because other men flirt and stare at me. I'm just too scary to THIS man.
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>>77115279
he's lying to you and you're eating it up because he knows you. He knows it feeds your ego to accept that actually he's fucking other women because you're "too good". women literally can not understand men lmao.
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>>77115287
Better to be alone then? Because all men will treat me this way?
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>>77115052
>>77115137
We've got kids together, I want to give it a year and counseling to prove if it's totally fucked and show myself as reasonable. I just can't find the energy to lift
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>>77115320
I'd advise trying to be more self aware and not acting hysterical. Your response to abandon hope an give at the first hurdle is not rational and very female. Try to understand men better and try to understand yourself better. Obviously.
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>>77115583
>if you ever come up short or make him unhappy he'll cheat
OK so I opt out entirely
>whoa whoa whoa that's an extreme response!
Men are cool friends and all, but for someone like me who expects monogamy they absolutely suck, homosexual is stupid and more violent, so I'll opt out and focus in the gym
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>>77115616
if you want to make dumb decisions and become a spinster don't let me stop you. Nobody said what you're quoting. if you're female on 4chuds you're probably well beyond help in any case
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>>77115052
>Being completely at peace with divorce ironically means it probably won't happen, especially if your wife senses genuinely that you won't hesitate to GTFO.
Extremely based and truthful take.
Sometimes I'm almost thankful (almost) for my first BPD whore girlfriend who destroyed me so much that I had no choice but to embody the "it's ok to walk away" spirit for any relationship I'd have after that one. And this honestly saved my relationship with my now wife a few times. When she would start to give me mild bullshit (like not immediately cutting off some dude trying to flirt with her), it was definitely my "having a foot out the door" approach that made her come to her senses and behave properly. I wonder if she would've come to the point of actually fucking someone else had I been all
>"please babe don't do it, it hurts me, no babe I'm not insecure I just don't trust other men so pretty please stop talking to him"
Or maybe she wouldn't have ~technically~ cheated, just lose all respect for me and dump me days before actually fucking someone else, like women do when they don't truly cheat.

If guys were just more capable of breaking up with women over serious disrespect, women at large would behave waaaay better. But men are SIMPs.
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>>77115413
>prove if it's totally fucked and show myself as reasonable
No such thing bro. Society is DESIGNED to make women look good and men bad, and no amount of evidence will convince normies otherwise. I've seen some idiocracy-level mental gymnastics from people IRL trying to justify women from the most atrocious behavior.
>but those pople are imbeciles
And yet they're many, and have the power to socially (and sometimes professionally) ostracize you.

In your situation I'd divorce immediately, unless gathering evidence now could make some real difference in court for the divorce settlement. Trying to save face for this rotten society is useless, you're just gonna waste time, money, energy, dignity, and above all else, what is left of your mental health.
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>>77113358
I've read accounts by long distance runners accumulating that type of fatigue. It takes many months, sometimes more than a year to bounce back
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>>77113358
outsidemaxx and naturemaxx
go for walks, go for runs, go do sprints, go walk dog, do all of that in a forest or hills or plains just be in proper nature (not just parks) and alternate between chilling and physical activity

this shit is so rejuvenating I can't even describe it, also do weird stretches and movements and breathe deeply (long inhale in with nose out long "pfooo" (silent sigh) with mouth) while doing them, ideally all while also staring at beautiful nature views

more bonus points if you can incorporate some forms of play and interaction with other beings
- if with dog, race the dog and run around and play with the dog (really fun one is if you're on a meadow, let the dog walk a bit farther away from you then throw a stick far in the other direction (to get a headstart) and race the dog there, then once the dog gets to the stick, turn around and run away again as fast as possible and the dog will try to catch you)
- if with others, just do whatever all kinds of fun activities
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>>77115789
>no dog
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>>77115789
>go walk dog
Man i was taking a walk this afternoon and everything is greener because spring is approaching and i remember this time of last year where i was just walking with my dog and not giving a fuck about anything... i miss him a lot bros...
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>>77115809
Cute doggo anon. I'm sure his time here was worth it.
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>>77113358
It could be SIBO. You can have SIBO without any obvious signs. SIBO is a known mood killer.
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>>77115809
I'm sorry for your loss anon, I'm sure the second he got up there he had a talk with the big man and arranged to send down another dog fella to appear in your life eventually and give you more good company

>>77115804
>>no dog
get dog!
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>>77113358
Holy fuck, this new captcha is cancer.
I have been working through autistic burnout (basically too much stress over a long period of time makes you crash and you can't do much), which sounds similar in effect to what you're dealing with. I had a busy and difficult 2025, and by January I was so tense that my body was locked up, and it was pretty painful. I completely crashed and couldn't do much.
Look up the seven types of rest, and try to implement all of them. Or, to make it more simple, focus on maintaining sleep, light exercise, and healthy diet (as you have been), then temporarily reduce your responsibilities/workload as much as you can, then dedicate some time to things that rejuvenate you (hobbies, activities, whatever). Be prepared to do a lot of nothing.
In my case, a routine involving breath work, journaling, rest/relaxation in total silence, hot showers (wish I had a hot tub), massage, snowboarding, and walks have all helped me a lot, but I also had to bring the intensity of stuff way, way down in general. I had to pull back on lifting almost entirely for a bit, because I was going into the gym in an already high-stress state, training really hard the way I like to, and just driving myself further into the hole. I also had to put my diet on easy mode and do a lot less cooking, reduce socializing, and decrease my load at work and just do the bare minimum (luckily I have a flexible job). I'm slowly building back up, but it feels like forever. Sometimes it takes a long time for your nervous system to figure out that the threat is gone.
Shit sucks bro, good luck.
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>>77113358
Nigga buy hop extract. It basically a PED in terms of sleep, recovery and mental wellbeing.
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>>77113674
this is the truth
>>77113721
what you think in your head has a tangible even measurable physical impact
if you go around thinking you're stressed then you will be stressed
you need to think positively and try to take it easy
i struggle with this too
it got so bad i gave myself tinnitus from tmj and hear phantom explosions when i'm about to fall asleep which wake me up (exploding head syndrome) because my body thinks i'm in some kind of acute danger
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>>77113668
Sleep, time, long distance running.
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>>77115413
Get out. It only gets worse. You're gonna go through the wringer no matter what happens. Rip off the band aid. Ruined my life. best decision I ever made. You can have your life ruined now or you can have your life ruined later. If you do it now you still have time to live. Do it later and you will be even more fucked
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>>77113358
Holy fuck, I LITERALLY Just was researching this exact topic and was about to post it here. As a long time lurker, wanted to say thanks for asking this.

TLDR without a personal blog: Was /fit/, confident, got with girl, married girl, wife 3 months later got cancer and almost died, on a constant health decline and almost died 3-4 more times over 3 years (not cancer) and dog almost died (had to get $15k in debt to save the doggo)
Sex once a month or 2-3 weeks or so, high pressure stress because of the stakes, her health, my work and finances, etc. Test dropped from 700 natty, to 230 or so. On TRT and at 700-900 and balanced estradiol levels.
My dick gets hard for 1 min and goes DEAD afterwards due to performance anxiety since we dont get to have an opportunity for sex often.

Nothing seems to help. Finally found out that it was my stress levels. Will monitor this thread for suggestions.
>>77113674
Although 2nd post may be my answer.

What worked for you guys? any real world tips? I dont enjoy life any more as all the things I love are dying or suffering. I want to fucking rip the world apart and stab god in the face for putting my wife through hell.
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>>77113358
Unironically I used LSD and it really helped reset my shit. I do mushrooms once a month now. Same effect.
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>>77113358
walk 20000 steps every day and your "fatigue" problems will cease to exist
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>>77117014
Hello, fellow 20k a day walker. Yes, it does wonders for your mental health. Walking and breath work.



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