Whistleblowing inside here.Stay far away from Thorne productsBeen working at the summerville plant for about 5 years. About two years ago we got bought out by a private equity firm.Things been getting shittier and shittier but hey its a job, I usually dont give a fuck but we have gotten pretty egregious with the things we do, and surprisingly get away with?Anyways lots of raw ingredients come with big silica desiccant gel packs in them. Each about 650g of the stuff.We kept not taking them out and they would get broken in the run and you cant seperate them from the powders and it would have to be trashed.Big wig super genious who has never stepped on production floor decides just sift out what you can then mill the rest into powder and nobody will know.Now they dont even want us to try and remove the packs, just toss it all in, let what breaks open breaks open, sift what little is sifted out (A normal run might have 20 packs in it, thats 13kg of silica desi gel. You might sift out <1kg and the rest gets milled up into powder)It seems super fucked up to me, but idk if anyone here will give a fuck. But hey, is what it isfuck em
>>77116419here's a gem for your trouble (whistle)blowing anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m5Ey23OGMo&list=RD7m5Ey23OGMo&start_radio=1
>>77116419theres no fkn waywhistleblowing on fit? and actually something interesting and kinda fucked? what is this 2012?good thread anon, u got moar?
>>77116419i heard thorne got bought out and their shit was possibly no longer of reliable quality, i didn't really believe the concerns but stayed away from it just in case. good to know, thanks for sharing
I remember seeing this post before, anyway I would never buy their overpriced products to begin with
>>77116419Protip: don't buy any fucking supplements, they're all a waste :^)
>>77116424I have pictures but they are from back in july when this was going through its 'pilot testing' kinda scared to post and get doxxed.
>>77116424>>77116545
>>77116555this is what went through after 13kg of desiccantwhat possible information can this 'test' be useful for
>>77116555>>77116545>>77116558dawg you need to report to FDA that is a serious safety issue. I hope you have proof of your boss saying to allow desiccant into the product.
>>77116565see link here for anonymous reporting.https://www.safetyreporting.hhs.gov/SRP2/en/Home.aspx?sid=eb18fb28-a0ee-4268-a028-e65f9e52e89d
>>77116569FDA is on the payroll. We literally get called before audits, they're scheduled
>>77116572there are 1000 different departments. reports are taken very seriously.
>>77116574you arent wrong but i am risking my neck out here anon, easy to say when its not your livelihood on the line. This department is like <50 people and not many of us have access to these kinds of documents
>>77116592>invstgatemy bosses are not smart people...
Well shit you guys were one of the best right? I'm sure other supplement companies have far worse practices going on right now
>>77116592>>77116595best case scenario they fire you and you get to sue them as a whistleblower and get a gorillion dollars.
>>77116646you're not wrong, but this is south carolinathey can manufacture a situation to fire you legally i'm sure and be like oh no, it wasnt the whistle blowing, it was this bullshit blah blah reason
>>77116419Thanks for the heads up, king
>>77116592>--None-- 4048 kgswtf
>>77116419Dessicants are pretty stupid anyway. Why not just bulk ship under a nitrogen atmosphere in aluminum cans? What tier of retard manufacturer is this?
>>77116674they come with the raw materials shipped from china>>77116668see above. my bosses are not smart people
>>77116657Doesn't matter if it's at will, any lawyer would salivate at a whistle blower getting fired. That's such an easy case
>>77116689man you convinced mewill send reportill update if anything happens
>>77116689I hope this anon is right if you get caughtNever bought this brand but seen it many times and almost did buy itThanks for the legit warningGod bless you
>>77116884thx i really appreciate it
WITNESSING
>>77116884I bought a few of their products a long-ass time ago, but they managed to deter me with uncompetitive pricing alone more recently.
No fkn way
>>77116419Some of my preworkout has silicon dioxide just in the shit. It's also sold as scar reducing gel. tl;dr it's not bad for you.
>>77116569Based justice doner
>>77116867>>77116884Based go take your millions anon
>>77116419godspeed nigga
>>77116419Good info. Been thinking about buying their vitamin K.
>>77116419Id be fine eating the silica, but it's fucked that they let the plastic packaging get broken down too. I hate micro plastics
>>77116419Based. doing the lords work anon thank you
Blessed thread, uncs unite
>>77117224t. OP's boss
Monitoring this thread. But that brand was always too expensive for me anyway. Who knows what I'm actually consuming but at least it's not comfirmed dessicant.
If that's in the supposed high tier products imagine what's inside the lower tier ones and imagine what's being done with protein from less regulated markets like US or England.
>>77117457Thorne is a US company
>>77117224>It's also sold as scar reducing gel.You're thinking of silicone; totally different chemical that's also in some titty implants, dildos, and caulking.
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>>77116867I'd recommend going to a lawyer before you report, someone who specializes on the supplement/food industry, regulations etc., could probably also help you figure out the best way to do this entire thing
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>>77116419Send this info to influencers if you want to get the story out there
>>77119333silicon dioxide is a filler in most of thorne products desusilica gel is not the same thing
>>77119344I'm really not a regular on this boardyall would know who to send it to, idk any fit influencers
>>77119387>silicon dioxide is a filler in most of thorne products desu>silica gel is not the same thingIt's exactly the same thing. The dessicant packs that say silica gel and do not eat are silicon dioxide that you can eat. Ingest anyway, wouldn't chew it.If it was known to be toxic in any way do you retards really think 100,000 food and supplement products would have it in flimsy paper packs.
>>77119569I hope OP is ok if the FDA rejects this on this grounds
>>77116419Tell us what Thorne is, first
>>77116867godspeed my friend. in the current age of epstein & co., we need to do whatever we can to protect whistleblowers
>>77119569If you say soI have poured thoudands of kilos of silicon dioxideI have seen silica gel milled to fine powder They don't look like the same thing or flow the same way. Not same color. Just my experience you could be right
>>77116419Thanks for this anon. I was about to switch up who I get my Mag supplements from and I was considering Thorne since they had good reviews across the web.
>>77116565FDA doesn't even regulate supplements anyway. Companies can lie about what's in them, or lie about what's not in them, as long as the substance itself isn't controlled.
In this episode of /fit/, a disgruntled employee on a PIP (performance improvement plan) with scope of being fired due to poor performance wants to sink the company on his way out. What hijinks are going to transpire in this episode of whacky 4chan greentext posts when anon founds out that... *record scratch* *freeze frame*... SILICA GEL ISNT TOXIC!?!?!?>Scene change>https://youtu.be/w15oWDh02K4 begins playing>a mid 20's dishellved man is sat at a computer with dirty laundry and beer cans strewn across the floor in his mums boxroom>zoom in and scene begins Hi, my name is anon. You're probably wondering how I became a top level whistle blower. Well you see, I was once a straight working HR abiding citizen just like you. Until I saw those damned silica packets... I knew since day 1 they were risky business. You see, it says "DO NOT EAT" on them. It doesn't take a genius to know that they're as sketchy as a detroit hooker 2 days away from their food stamps hitting their doorstep. Anyway, let me cut the chase. One day the big cheese caught me cranking hog in the female toilets and.. well you get the picture. I was on a 1 way bus ride to cannedville, population: me. That's when it hit me. I've been dumping raw materials into the industrial mixers without proper oversight for years. That's at least 12 metric tons of silica packets delivered straight down the gullets of the Joe Schmoe's of America. How are they even alive? I don't want to hear how I'm responsible. Sure, it was me who dumped the raw materials into the vats. But so what? At the end of the day, cranking hog in the bathroom stall is a personal matter, and Susan from HR is a fucking bitch for reporting me....... she's stood behind me isnt she?.... WELL THAT HAPPENED!>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_RSwwpPaA starts playing
>>77119903Anywhere online that tells you what chemical silica gel is says either silicon dioxide or SiO2 which means the same thing. It's not a theory I came up with.
>>77119918Correct I'm just saying my personal experience is they do not look like eachother I've seen both milled into fine powder and they don't have the same propertiesI don't know the significance of that. Could be nothing. Just my experience, I don't have an explanation
>>77119933It can be formed differently physically.
>>77116419Thank you OP, you're a good person
>>77116419i hate to shill reddit here but post this info on /r/nootropicsdepot
>>77116419You are appreciated OP, you do your part to make the world less shitty.
kek that's fucking hilarious if true
