How many of you guys feel like this?
i’m homeless
>>77125041Having a clean house is daily maintenance, yes.
>>77125041Me. Don't forget cooking
>>77125041I don’t have a mid physique, i bench 3.2pl and my wife cleans the house
bumpToo real.>eat mostly rice chicken breast and oats>perma love handles>manletlol
I do.Here's why:You start lifting. 1-2 hours like three times a week. Perfect, noob gains are coming.Then your progress halts. Realize your eating habits are shit. You fix that. Your sleeping is shit, too. You fix that. You realize you have to drink more. So you do. Then you feel pain somewhere. You realize you have to do some prehab exercises/stretches. You put together a mobility routine which over time becomes an hour on it's own. You also realize that you should do some cardio so on some days you go running.So now all day long you only think about your macros and your next workout.And that's how slowly but steadily fitness consumes your life, only to get the occasional recognition from some of your friends who work out, but only from them who work out and understand and recognize effort, because you'll realize normies don't really care and unless you look like Arnold from the Terminator you are dyel in their eyes. Especially women don't care, because while they love the end result they hate putting up with your schedule and eating habits which is more strict than an anorexic teenage girl's.
>>77125041Same energy as pic rel.You're just a faggot OP (along with anyone else who holds that sentiment).
>>77125063nice image resolution actual moron
>>77125063nice job saving that image saar, we wuz tech sapport saar
>>77125041yeah without abusing drugs having an impressive physique is insanely hard
>>77125041its really not that much workyou just grew up being lazy fags and now you dont know how to routinely take care of yourself as adults to get a nice physique:cook your own foodfollow a bodybuilding programto get a nice house:put things away in stead of on the floor or on the tablestay organizedclean as you goschedule days to do specific choresliterally create a program and it all becomes automatic
>>77125063for ants?
>>77125120>literally create a program and it all becomes automaticPeople were so busy complaining about da jooz, nobody noticed as autistics secretly took over the world
About 30 years ago, maintaining a slim figure and not living in a sty was just normal. The reason you feel like you do is because standards have fallen so horribly low that just being a decent human is "unbelievable" and "much work." The way out of it is to respect yourself and get a smidge of discipline.
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>>77125120>foreveralone autist thinks his experience living alone with no responsibility makes him knowledgeablelmao
>>77125120I'm not sure it's laziness, it can be depression, adhd or some kind of dopamine issue. Some people just can't put away or clean things and live in filth but can work hard in an 8 hour job. Some are miserable. Others seem to be high functioning, probably autistic. I have no answers to this, other than, when you get home don't sit down keep doing your chores because once you relax you ain't getting up again.
>>77125138even 30 years ago the obesity rate was 30% you demented boomer
>>77125086>>77125098>>77125128Sorry, here's the full res image.
>>77125179God's strongest soldier vs resizing a picture without compressing it
>>77125046Good for you!Can't loss something you don't have, can only do up now!
>>77125048>maintenancenon-whites don't have a word for "maintenance".
>>77125179for giants?
>>77125041>set small goal>achieve small goal>get a huge dopamine boost>repeatYou niggers have fried your brains beyond basic function. Completing small goals should be rewarding enough for you to be proud of yourself and feel good about yourself. You are all a bunch of feminine faggots. Its 100% a woman thing to pursue instant gratification with no effort, thats why your brain is fucked. If your brain keeps a healthy balance you enjoy doing things even if they are repetitive or boring because your brain will feel good when you complete that thing because it knows that doing that thing will generate a near future pleasure. Make your brain feel expectation and excitement about achieving a goal and you will legit be unstoppable. You niggers get frustrated if you dont feel good just tapping a screen. Reduce screen time, dont use iddle time on doomscrolling, find interesting stuff to read even if its a gay novel about two horse cocked furriea buttfucking each other. If you are fried, try reprogramming yourself doing tasks that you can see its progress, for example, drawing gives you a direct look at how the thing is progressing and it snowballs excitement for completing it. Its the same as being a newbie at the gym and lifting 0.5kg more every week. Do shit that makes you see you are progressing to bait your brain, when you get hooked to the feeling, try doing more abstract shit. You faggots are addicted to videogames, live life like a videogame. STOP COMPLAINING AND DO IT FAGGOT
I feel like a 38 year old trooned out wog is spamming gay doomer shit
>>77125221>calling things you don't like 'womanly'
>>77125041For me it's an endless cycle of cleaning up and putting away stuff that lies around, especially in the kitchen.
>>77125226>implying being a lazy useless worthless faggot is a good thing and admirable in a manStop wasting oxygen and kys.
>>77125061Real
>>77125230I get it, you hate women. It's ok anon, you don't have to hide behind the macho exterior. It's 2026. Just lift weights and then kiss boys, no one will judge you.
>>77125164this anon gets it.However, because finding difficulty in menial chores almost always implies some underlying mental health issues, maintaining a schedule that allows for you to have a good physique and a clean house could be considered a marker of good mental health.
>>77125041>having a house
I dont know why but i always push all my cleaning into one gigantic block every 1 - 2 months. It takes like 4-5 hours but then I just clean everything. only place i keep cleaning at all times is the kitchen, because cooking in a messy kitchen is a pain in the assIt'd probably be better to do a small segment every week, like a room, or vaccuming or some shit every week, but for whatever reason i have a fantastic ability to step over dirty laundry on the floor for weeks, then i suddenly snap and then clean for like 5 hours to get everything done
Why do Zoomers make literally everything into an epic quest and arc? It’s cleaning a fucking house
>>77125303blackpill posters are depressed, fat, unhealthy, drug and/or porn addicts that struggle to get through a day without frying their dopamine receptorsthey make threads like this because misery loves company and they would rather try to bring people down to their level of worthlessness than strive to do more for themselves
My coworker hired a cleaning lady and she is still a fat bitch getting fatter every day. You're just lazy, dumb, distracted and unorganized. Analyze your habits, make a plan, stick to it.
Is this the ADHD and autism general? Glad I found you fellas, I've been looking all over
>>77125412this was a lot funnier in your head
>>77125041It's wrong, because maintenance takes very little work if you're consistent. What makes it appear to be a lot of work is when you ignore the chores you should be doing and let it get to a point where everything is so dirty that you have to clean the whole house. Once it's clean you don't have to do a lot to keep it clean, you just have to do a little bit consistently. If you allowed your body to degrade to a shitty physique (your starting point, perhaps), then yes, you have a lot of work ahead of you to fix it, because you didn't put in the work before. Once your physique is good even just training 2 days a week could be enough to maintain it. The point is: Never allow the things you should be doing to accumulate to a point where the backlog makes you feel overwhelmed.
Just waterproof everything.
>>77125041yes, people here cope saying it is easy and simple etc etc when clearly it isn't and that is why 99,9% of the population don't have it it is easier for one to become a milionare than to be in shape
>>77125443What you see is in part an effect of people aligning themselves with the group and the "accepted" standard. Of course, many bad habits are rooted in human nature, and that's why most people share them or are susceptible to them. That doesn't mean doing what they should be doing is difficult, but they lack motivation and the right tools for change, because "everyone else isn't doing it either".
>>77125232You look very pretty in that picture
>>77125061My gf likes my shoulders and arms. But i got that from constuction work honestly, lifying things all day. Instead of doing bare minimum for an hour like most of you faggots. And you probably spend half that time resting.
>>77125048You're obsessive.
>>77125041It strongly depends on your genetics. In general physiques do not look too great if body fat goes above a certain percentage.
>>77125538Also i have noticed a lot of people dont have the genetics for sub 10% but i think part of the probelm might be not aquirung muscle mass before going into starvation mode.
>>77125497You're agreeing with me using more words it is hard as fuck and complicated
>>77125041Not me because I'm not a lazy brown. It's all pretty straight forward you faggoty relax comfy genetic dead end.>>77125538Only your laziness genetics. It's a hard pill for people to swallow but it's the truth. People's true worth is visible on their bodies.
>>77125558None of the things that go into keeping a house clean and maintaing a good physique are inherently hard, they're just less immediately convenient than the alternative. Cooking isn't hard just because you're used to takeout. People often overestimate how inconvenient something is when they don’t feel like doing it in the moment. That's not an objective measure of difficulty, it's short term bias. If the argument is that breaking bad habits is difficult regardless of how simple the alternative is, then I agree. If the claim is that the better alternative itself is inherently too difficult to execute, then I disagree.
>>77125041It's because the housekeeping, the workout and your job are now three separate things, they used to be either all the same thing or a combination of some so you end up spending a lot of time to accomplish all three together
>>77125050Go ahead and post video.
>>77125120>put things awayeven if you'll use the thing the next day or the next hour for that matter
>>77125299I have a one-hour cleaning slot on a set day each week. I'll rotate through the rooms over the week. Remove things from their place, clean the corners, put everything back where it belongs.
Talked to my wife about having the cleaning lady come more often last night, actually. She's currently $90, and we have her come once a month. Suggested she comes 2x a month.Wife spent a good 2 minutes just thinking about it, finally aceding but clearly reluctantly. When I asked, she said it was the cost. I was thinking, lady, our 1040 says over $300k, we just blew almost $100k on a new porch, you've got us taking an international trip for spring break, etc etc etc, and all I want is the house properly cleaned more often for what, $1k more a year?Unspoken there was that she thinks I should be doing the cleaning because I'm WFH. Woman, I already clean more than you and the kids combined, on top of fixing and maintaining everything, driving kids around to their 9000 activities, and being on the hook for dinner all the time. I. Don't. Want. To. Be. A 1950's housewife on top of being full-time employed at 6 figures.
>>77125794Somehow that sounded like you both are having sex with the cleaning lady
>>77125794>UnspokenThat isn't good. You don't know how much it's a real problem versus how much you're just mind-reading (hallucinating).
>>77125804Considering this comes on the heels of a conversation last week about not enough sex, I do wonder if the thought occurred.Haha, but no. The cleaning lady is a 40+ Latina that I maybe say two sentences to.
>>77125439>2000>just before smartphones ruin everything in 8 years
>>77125812Wife has made it clear over and over and over that she thinks I should be doing more. We had a fight about that and some other things a few months ago that I completely won - the crux of my argument was that there's no amount of more I can ever do that would satisfy her.Plus, what the fuck. We're genuinely rich, and she spends it like water. Why the hell can't the cleaner come 2x a month?
>>77125825I don't give my wife credit cards she's irresponsible. If she wants to buy something she has to ask.
>>77125794>I clean more than the kidsWhy are you paying a stranger? Just have the kids push a broom and bust suds to earn their allowance
>>77125817Idk who else caused as much damage to humanity as a whole (aside from ykw)
>>77125825>the crux of my argument was that there's no amount of more I can ever do that would satisfy her.Ok, so what if the breakthrough that hasn't happened yet about WHY she's never satisfied could get uncovered in this talk about her evidently thinking WFH = Free time/attention all day to double as a housewife? Is she one of those hybrid people who just works while in and then pretends to at home, who hasn't thought through the fact that WFH'ers still have to lock in? Is she on a work site full time and just has no concept of it at all, and has assumptions about it she doesn't even know she has?It just sounds like you've got a prime opportunity to dig into that.
>>77125794Oh look it’s this spamming faggot again. Keep talking about how rich you are and how you work from home all over fit
>>77125842True, man doesn't discipline his kids. They should be keeping the place spotless or they'll grow up into dirty slobs.
>>77125041I only care about numbers going up and i dont have a room really because i live with my familyMy room is basically this secondary hall leading to the secondary living room where i just put a closet and desk, whoever cleans just cleans my room as well and i dump clothes into the washing machineLife is good but jerking off can be tricky since i only find it pleasurable to do it butt naked while laying with a pillow under my head, and i dont want someone to just walk on me
>>77125443Fitness is simple, managing behavior in an environment that is hostile to it is hard.
>>77125794>She's currently $90Damn that's cheap
>>77125243I wouldn't know how to fix it if I had one myself. Sounds like it would be too tricky and expensive too.
>>77125832Wife makes plenty of the money, and always talks about big purchases first. She's pretty responsible, we just have the budget for her to spend.>>77125842Kids do a lot. They've heard me tell the (true) story 1000 times of a 21 year old woman stabbing dirt with a broom at her first job because she's never been taught.>>77125844Opposite, actually. She crams any free time with more (too much) activity, and doesn't understand why anyone wouldn't. Also, I have always downplayed the amount of effort I spend on things (since long before she entered my life) which has repeatedly led to my being labeled as lazy while I'm getting more done than anyone around me. Working to fix this impression has only led my wife to confusion. Basically, when asked, I now say I had a busy day no matter what the case. It doesn't add up to enough for her, though - she adds so much extra to her own job that she has to bring it home, and she sees me sitting around (having, mind you, cooked and cleaned up from dinner and driven the kids to and from their activities).You're probably right, but I still haven't figured out how to fix it.>>77125847There's more than one of us. I don't mention it very often, but it was relevant here.>>77125868Yeah. I keep waiting for her to up the price, and will happily pay it, but hasn't happened yet.
>>77125794You slobs should spend more time cleaning your own house and less time typing out boring blog posts for 4chan.
>>77125916I live in a perpetual state of wife and kids making a mess. I look around and I see every horizontal surface that I don't actively maintain (kitchen counters) covered in other people's clutter. We have a disgusting ass dog that they wanted wallowing in the dirt under the porch and then rolling that around on our floors. Hair, their long fucking hair everywhere, on everything.No amount of cleaning, Anon. And I'm tired of doing it. I am the proverbial burned out housewife, except I'm also a full-time employed man.
>>77125179fucking based
>>77125897>Kids do a lot.How much fucking cleaning do you need?? Multiple kids plus yourself to pick up toys, sweep/vacuum the floor, wash dishes, clean toilets, and dust counters. What, are you scrubbing windows and mopping behind the fridge every single day?
>>77125166Wholly incorrect. i'm going to have to ask you to apply yourself.
>>77125935I think I mostly just wanted you to stop typing out boring blog posts for 4chan, so please focus on that part of it.
>>77125945Don't stop there, Anon. Scrub grout in all the showers and in the kitchen because wife needed subway tile fucking everywhere. Laundry, laundry, laundry. Changing air filters. Cabinets need scrubbed. Tablecloth needs washed. Couch needs vacuumed (yes, vacuumed). Sinks need scrubbed. Sink drains need snaked every other week or they start draining slow. The list goes on and on and on... OP's pic is deadly serious.Plus you live in a place for 10+ years, things get dirty you never even thought about. I'm about to paint some of the walls for the 3rd time because people won't stop touching them.
>>77125949What else am I going to do in boring ass off camera Teams meetings?
>>77125966>a full time employed man>my team meetingsJesus do you ever stop talking about your employment, your working from home, your salary. Shut the fuck up god I wish 4chan could ban faggots for shit like this
>>77125963>Boohoo I have to do laundry once a week and snake a drain twice a monthHow did you impregnate a woman while having a vagina?
>>77126012>snake a drain twice a monthWhat are you flushing lol
>>77125061Intermediate to advanced is a struggle. Beginner to intermediate is quite easy, do the main lifts, stick to them, eat an excess so you get some muscle. > women don't like the lifestyle They really don't. I go 4 days a week, my workouts are roughly 2 hours long. I need to prepare beforehand to not have eaten too much or it'll suck, I need to pack my stuff, drive, take a shower after. That already brings it to 3 hours. Then I also need some more time to sleep and to chill, that's like 10-12 hours of my week. Doing this is like having a part time job really. Idk why people claim ''1 hour, 3 days per week'' is all it takes. It's just not enough to progress meaningfully past the intermediate stage. >>77125166No, obesity was a circus attraction in my country (Netherlands) 20 years ago. People were more active even in office jobs and just ate less overall and had hobbies where they exercised. 30 years ago obesity was probably even less, but I wasn't born then.
>>77125179Dumbass, you're supposed to shrink the size for better comedic effect.
>>77125142NTA, but I have kids and agree with that guy. Routines are king when you have a lot of responsibilitiesPic rel, it's (you)
Why are zoomers such melodramatic body dysmorphic lazy fucks?It takes me a maximum of 30 minutes to keep the house clean, and I spend a maximum of 1 hour at the gym on workout days. I'm not some jacked Hollywood actor, but I am happy and healthy.How is that too much work?
>>77125935>every horizontal surfaceIf I could I would remove every single one of these from my home. I swear people go out and find shit to just clutter them with.
>>77125041the work is the fun part
>>77125794>100k on a porchLmao
>>77126043Mr. Blog poster is clearly not a zoomer, Mr. Boomer.
>>77125847Holy sour grapes batman. Get off this site if you're raging like a schizo at people who live normal livesThe anon you're raging at isn't even rich by US middle class standards lmao
nope. My girlfriend does all the cleaning and I love working out.
>>77126043Because they ALL have ADHD from tik tok brain rot. Everything is hard when you have no fucking sensitivity to dopamine because social media has fried your brain. They are starting to become self aware and calling out executive dysfunction but I don't think it will fix most of them.
>>77125897>She crams any free time with more (too much) activity, and doesn't understand why anyone wouldn't.>she adds so much extra to her own job that she has to bring it home, and she sees me sitting around [and gets mad]My ex was like this. Women who do this are insufferable and stupid. I'm very sorry for you anon. It wasn't until after I got out of that relationship that I realized just how fucked up it was and how it negatively affected my mental health. Having to manage her emotional immaturity and engineer reality around her like you describe just to maintain peace is exhausting. As the young people say that shit is toxic af
>>77125041Can't relate. I don't have body dysmorphia and my family live within out means so we live in a modest small home rather than some retarded cookie cutter cardboard boondoggle. So, cleaning is easy for us. I can deep clean, like hide a murder deep clean, in just 1 day, assuming I get everyone off their butts to help. Oh that too, more hands make less work. But I'm assuming you're like, fucked in the head, or something, and keeping a studio tidy is difficult for you, I assume.
>>77125205維持
Skill issue. I have 4 kids, wife and I both work. House is spotless. Learn to parent your kids, they should be helping to keep your home clean.
>>77126125THIS21st century parents are largely incompetent and most women don't even allow the father to discipline and work the kids because that would be low status and hurt her feefees
>>77126144Yep. I recently learned that if you never get your kids any toys more stimulating than action figures, they will naturally want to do chores because of the satisfaction of completing a task and getting approval from you etc. Giving kids electronics and feeding them garbage is a testament to how dysfunctional and retarded america has become.
>>77126149Sounds like you're doing a good job fellow dad anon. Good on you.Overstimulation is definitely part of the problem, but I'd go even further and submit to the anons here that the fundamental problem in most households is even deeper. Most parents live and comport themselves like shit in a way that does not command any respect. Children, especially boys, know instinctively when they are with an adult who commands respect versus one who does not. Be the hero of the past that the shonen protag looks up to, strong, disciplined and clean with high standards, and your kids will follow you anywhere.
>>77126119lol I think this is like the natural default state of woman in general. My ex was like this as well. The real hack is to start demanding that she do shit for you. Since women can't be happy just sitting there you need to be the one putting her ass to work. Their psychology is such that in general, her doing things for you reinforces her love for you. Its very counter intuative because the nature of male relationships is more like a balance of social capital being spent and if a friend starts asking you for too many favors and there is no balance in the relationship you will start to resent this friend pretty quickly. The more you can get a woman to invest in you and do for you, the more she will love you. Because their brains are retarded and the logic flows backwards. I did this for him therefore I must love him deeply.
>>77125041>>77125061Too true. Fitness is basically a lifestyle unto itself and maintaining it isn't that trivial when you work a full time job (or more than that), have a girl, any kind of social life or obligations or other hobbies. It's a constant sap on already limited resources and it always feels like the only people arguing with that are dyel novices drunk on noob gains. It might be not a herculean task to live like that, but it's certainly tiresome sometimes when you have hardly any leisure time after being done with all the regular tasks that won't ever be gone for good.
>>77125998Sorry for being an adult.>>77126012She bullied me into proposing and then leg locked me until we had our 2 kids.>>77126022I don't fucking know! I live with goddam animals! And it's not even the toilets - it's just the bathroom sink drains building up crud around the body of the stopper in the pipe.>>77126056And then I get in trouble for not wanting to dust any of it.
>>77126125>>77126144>>77126149These posters are the kind of men women cheat on, btw. No idea what's happening under your noses.
>>77126088Blog poster here. I'm 45. Whatever that makes me in your newfangled parlance, I don't really care.
>>77126083Don't get me started, lol. This was her rebellion against Trump getting elected. No I won't go through the train of woman-logic, you'll have to just believe me, but it's 100% true.
>>77126119>Women who do this are insufferable and stupidCorrect.>>77126186>this is like the natural default state of woman in generalAlso correct.>Their psychology is such that in general, her doing things for you reinforces her love for you. Its very counter intuative because the nature of male relationships is more like a balance of social capital being spent and if a friend starts asking you for too many favors and there is no balance in the relationship you will start to resent this friend pretty quickly. The more you can get a woman to invest in you and do for you, the more she will love you. Because their brains are retarded and the logic flows backwards. I did this for him therefore I must love him deeply.And this is the correct course of action. You train her to be pleasant rather than insufferable.Women need male guidance to be nice wives. The "bad women" are the ones resistant to training/guidance, so they become bad wives regardless of your posture as a husband. Usually used up whores are unguidable
>>77126201>A projecting insecure retard appears
>>77126215Not sure why you felt the need to announce your arrival but ok
>>77125041Not really. For starters a mid physique should be just the default/baseline, it's right there in the name.As for the clean house, a big part of that is just cleaning as you go and not being a slob who makes a mess in the first place.
>>77125061unironically the lifestyle pisses my wife off so bad. i thank god that being a gymbro has some socially accepted moral bonus to it because otherwise i know the guilt trips would be unending. do women unironically expect to have access to their partner anytime they want every single day? it's always been strange to me.
>>77126246Wasn't my first post here, but good try mongoloid anon
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>>77126352Get fat and gross and see whether she still wants 24/7 access to you
>>77125041Life after 30 is a slow-motion suicide without family. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and siblings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing. Anyone who has experienced considerable ageing among his family members (or already in himself), knows how blackpilling it is. It's really rough, once people pass their early 50s (or sometimes even sooner) you start to notice the slip-ups, forgetfulness, the declining of fine motor skills, the difficulties understanding new information. Human existence is a tragedy, there are so few years that you are allowed with full mental and physical strength. Your peak years are mostly wasted with education, where you have barely any control over your own life, because you have little to no money nor autonomy. Add to that the time spent sleeping, working, hygiene, housework, shopping, appointments, visits to the workshop - what do we have left? Everyone who has to work for a living basically leads a precarious existence, regardless of whether they are a simple worker or a well-paid employee. Before they have built up a comfortable fortune and a well established understanding of the world, the body goes downhill.
>>77126395It's always been like this, doomerbro. Even if you have family and community to shore you up it sucks.The world doesn't care. All you can do is rage against the dying of the light.
>>77126407You are "raging" against the light?
>>77126447There is nothing else to do except surrender and die. Not a hard choice.
>>77125794I don't know what it is with women and these weird ideas they have about what's "fair" or not. I'm in a similar situation where my wife has these crying meltdowns at me every so often because it doesn't appear to her that I'm working as hard as her. She works from home as a producer at a tech company, I'm a groundskeeper for a local property management firm. I'm sure she finds her job challenging in some ways but it put me on my ass when she said that asking her to vaccuum at home meant she was working harder than me. Kinda makes me wonder if all those boomers joking about hating their wives might've actually had reasonable issues they were just too tired to try and resolve.
>>77126494>Anon begins to understand why beatings are permitted in traditional human cultures
>>77125794> 6 figures.102k>talked to my wifeInstead of making decisions. kek. Modern males.
>>77126494>fair or notEveryone, 90%, are brokie losers living pathetic lives. Check this out:>Rich people actually promote Anti-Work by showing everyone how rich they are>You see all the Nepo babys, all the Trumps that were born into wealth and didnt have a real job their entire life, yet still live better than 99% of the population.>CEOs brag about how much they make. Stars show how many homes they own. >Politicans how much stocks they have. You see it on TV, in Magazines, in commercials.>You see how undeserving or stupid these people are, yet they have everything in abundance and dont have to work because they got lucky in life or had favorable circumstances on their side.>Wow its an enigma why regular people would see this and would not want to work.
>>77125179fucking kekd
>>77126494Weak people, poor people and girls always feel the world is unfair.
>>77126395Boomers made it so that peak years are wasted on education to get a job, then the other years are wasted on rent and securing a decent enough job to afford some mediocre property. >>77126352> do women unironically expect to have access to their partner anytime they want every single day? Yes a lot of them do.
Living alone is brutal.
>>77125061>You realize you have to drink more.I will start (and stop) at this step.Will keep you updated.
>>77126536For most men, living with a girl is a luxury. For elites, living alone is a luxury.
>>77126352>women unironically expect to have access to their partner anytime they want every single day?Yes unless you actively put restrictions on it. You have to set boundaries and stick to them.
>>77126523> Everyone, 90%, are brokie losers living pathetic lives. That became more so the norm due to the west (US included) running on an economic ponzi scheme based on debt, interest and ridiculous annual growth numbers. Add to that the unending import of cheap workers and in Europe their case asylum seekers sitting on their ass all day in the social system and ofc things get a lot worse. These people keep voting for it though. >>77125843Heavily monetized dating apps and instagram did a number on romantic relationships among the young. But that's a byproduct of smartphones, before when dating was browser / desktop only the sites actually tried to be as good as possible in getting you someone you like.
>>77126536Living alone is wonderful. You have all the freedom to do what you want with your life. > Living alone without money and needing to wagecuck 50 hour weeks without going anywhereNow that's just horrid.
>>77126536try living with a woman. now THATS brutalThe god tier system is to have a GF who comes and stays on the weekends but gets the fuck out during the week. Now you are getting the best of all worlds
>>77125041>oh no, things require effortWhy are you people so lazy?
>>77126563Yeah. You see pics of Epstein and his group pics with girls and stuff, but don’t forget, he kicks them out when he wants them out. Or he lives in a huge mansion where the girls go to their slave quarters.
>>77126563Living with a girl especially in a not big house that you co own and both still work is shitt. No power or leverage over her.
>>77126582> co own This is basically the norm in most countries. Near impossible to buy unless you got a job that makes 2-3x the average. People don't realize how bad this arrangement is until the relationship turns to shit.
>>77126395/pol/ demoralization post.
>>77126586> People don't realize how bad this arrangement is until the relationship turns to shit.Obviously. You always be seen as equal to your gf/wife if both need to work and also co own house. lmao.
>>77125061>Then you feel pain somewhere. You realize you have to do some prehab exercises/stretches. You put together a mobility routine which over time becomes an hour on it's ownkek true
kys if you cant handle itmore for me i guess
>>77126144Real shit.This is why as a divorced guy I warn people to just not bother getting married or reproducing. Odds are you're gonna get catfished by a woman who actually has no maternal instincts, discipline or desire to be a mother and wife.The worst part is she's probably too stupid and not self-aware enough to know that.I have a younger Goth Baddie GF now. Out the gate she was honest about not being able to do shit - which is fine. I'd rather do everything myself, know it's taken care of and not worry about a Foid violating my trust and shitting up my house having to worry about whether my home is clean and my kids are safe or not.
>>77125794Do you make less than your wife? It sounds like you do.Pathetic, if so. No wonder she doesn’t want to fuck you.
>>77125041Maintaining my physique isn’t too bad now. For men, I will say that it will probably take a consistent 2 years of lifting at least before they have the appropriate muscular density to be considered impressive (by societal standards, not social media). From there, it’s just paying attention to what you eat, lifting hard 3 times a week, and finding a way to enjoy cardio. Keeping a clean home only feels rough since it’s often monotonous, daily effort that keeps it up. Easy once it becomes a habit
>>77126611Yes, you can arrange a lot at the notary, but people don't think about that while purchasing. Then if nothing was arranged in the notary act/deed then you will have the 50/50 split. However when you both need to work, often full time then its just shit. People haven't felt how shit it is lately since houses have only gone up the last 15 years. But if they ever crash then you're stuck with the chick or forced to take a heavy loss. Relationships are very unstable at the moment, much more so than in the past. Women cheat all the time, men also do. Then the question is : will you break up with the women if that would financially ruin you? Often the answer becomes ''no'' and you have a lot of couples who hate each other living together like that. This is a very common scenario. >>77126201People cheat if they want to. There are some levers that increase or decrease the chance of it happening, but a lot of people are inclined to cheat.
>>77125048I clean weekly. Saturday morning is a good cleaning time. Make some coffee, put on some music, butt funnel a shot of tequila and get to it.
>>77126186You gotta understand a woman's default state is manipulation and deception. You literally only get around this by her being too autistic to be that way. That comes with it's own problems.I can say from prior experience what happens is they begin to resent you. They find ways to fool you into thinking they are doing what you want, when really it's not. So you end up having to police her constantly.It is a total non-starter for a good, healthy relationship.Once she finally gets the chance to get her revenge for you stealing her agency you are going to reap the motherfucking whirlwind.
>>77126194The only reason so many actors and pro bodybuilders look the way they do and can perform>same for athletesis that they are literally paid to do this. They don't have any other concerns. Everything else is handled for them.This is why OG Arnold and bodybuilders like that have my respect. They were really out there hustling; no sponsors, no nothing. Just dudes with dreams.
>>77126395>>77126407It's called a Quarter-Life Crisis.You have to redefine meaning and come out and realize what is actually important and accept what those answers are.Mine started in my late 20s and really hit me once that 30th birthday came around.
>people actually think the incels ITT have wives or girlfriendsLol
>>77126645pro bodybuilders are paid scraps. Typically they have someone that they can rely on, e.g. living with parents / siblings and working the odd job here and there for money. Same for most athletes doing a sport that doesn't have the big money. They just decide to prioritize their live around performing in that sport. The star in the sport with a lot of social media presence and sponsorship typically doesn't have to worry about all of that.
>>77126640> However when you both need to work, often full time then its just shit. For sure. She doesn’t respect the husband/bf as a man and at that point, he is just a supporter/emotional tampon.
>>77126656Shut up working class loser.
>>77126554>(aside from ykw)
>>77125946
this thread just further convinces me to never get married
>>77125041Only love matters, it's over.
>>77126523I don't feel broke or like a loser I just wish my wife could keep her perspective in control. I get that vaccuuming is annoying but I'm literally on my feet all day hauling heavy things around and pushing dumpsters in and out of a building and cleaning up literal shit and grime, not to mention being outside in the elements half the time. I've talked to her about this and what it really comes down to is that she just doesn't want to have to work at all. Can't do much to help her resolve that one. It makes me feel like a total retard because I want to help her but that's just a problem I can't possibly solve but she's making it my problem for some reason.>>77126528I think a lot of women don't understand how much is handed to them for free.
>>77126494>it doesn't appear to her that I'm working as hard as her. She works from home as a producer at a tech company, I'm a groundskeeperThat is absolutely fucking insane. Did you ask her if she would hypothetically be okay with switching jobs?
>>77125041This is why you get married, so your wife can take care of the home while you work.
>>77126494>works from home as a producer at a tech companyOh look another fake bullshit company
>>77126559Oh yeah that’s my life
Don't forget to get this for your wife https://store.steampowered.com/app/4072240/Woman_Simulator/
>>77126197Is one of your kids a dude old enough to shave/trim? My whiskers will clog a sink like a motherfucker if I'm not careful to keep most of them out.
>>77126197get
>>77125794>>77125814Lol what a miserable life. The definition of low IQ
>>77126722>age-adjusted
>>77126210>wife "makes" you spend 100k on a porch because blumpf got electedW H I P P E D
>>77125063kek
>>77126885Are you 12 or 60?
>>77126210lmao. please tell the story. it's the most interesting part of this thread so far (and by far)
>>77125443Lmao buddy for 99.9% of the population becoming a millionaire in usd is out of the question. Go tell a srilankan teenager this, he will laugh in your face.Stop eating fast food
>>77127002My guess is that this stems from Anon's deep seeded dread of getting a divorce and being alone.IMO the main reason I have a good marriage is because I never was, and never will be, afraid to divorce if things really warrant it. Like another anon said here yesterday:>ironically, by not being afraid of divorcing your wife, your marriage is more likely to last and be healthyAnons will concede in the most pussywhipped ways becaude they're afraid they'll lose their gfs/wives if they don't bow down to their women. Ironic also is the fact that, subconsciously, women don't even want you to concede to their every whim; they want tough love from you, a.k.a. treat them well but also set boundaries and say "no" unapologetically when the situation demands.
>>77125794 Biggest faggot on /fit/. A genuine feat
>>77125041Very accurate. Buts probably because we're mid in every respect and dont have gfs or families
>>77125794is she hot
>>77126352Yes. If you were rich, they'd be mad that you worked too much
>>77125794It sounds like the wife wears the pants lol. You should be able to just do shit without her input since you're the man
>>77125179Based
>>77125041Takes about 10min to vacuum my house.No excuses abons
>>77125041Keeping a house clean isn't difficult, attaining the house is.
>>77127350Maybe I just need a less clunky vacuum or something because it feels like it takes me forever. Granted I haven't actually timed it, so maybe it's actually only 4 minutes that feels way longer because it's a "chore", but still.
Physique inflation is real, I'm pretty much always gonna be too skinny because I just don't want to eat that much but I'd be considered normal in the past.A clean house? Whatever, I live with family, that doesn't matter. And it's not even a lot of work I just can't be bothered tbqhwy.
>>77127372Vacuuming hardly takes any time, maybe your vacuum is just too loud so you subconsciously don't like it.I got a tiny vacuum at a garage sale and I vacuum my room in about 5 minutes including carpets + bed, and it's nice and relatively quiet.
>>77125046everyone is, they just don't realize it
>>77125041>most of the posts are exuberantly describing house chores and not lifting Hmmmmm
>>77125041I've hit a wall with my lifting, I don't even know what the fuck I'm doing anymore. I shouldn't need to damn near starve myself to get rid of belly fat. I at least cleaned the floor Sunday, but fuck cooking everything really wears on you. I gotta cross off a bunch of shit before I can even really sit down and relax after work, but if I relax too much the perma-fatigue starts reaching for me and I get nothing done. I never used to be so tired.
>>77127464its ruff out there
>>77125061I was expecting to see fitizens shitting on you and calling you weak and retarded but surprisingly we all seem to agree for onceBut you're right. I stopped being able to keep up once I started prioritizing my education more. >sleep 8 hours>work 8 hours>school 3.5 hours>commute 1.5 hours total>lifting/running/mobility/whatever 2 hoursThat leaves exactly ONE hour left over for:>waking up >shitting>shaving>showering>cooking>eating>cleaning>trying to go to bedAnd this is without kids, a wife, girlfriend, or even regular friends eating up any of my available time.
>>77125061>>77125061it's not that complicated. I've been at 1/2/3/4 and lifted at a very serious gym, macro tracked, spent hours prehabbing. now I downgraded to a neighborhood boomer gym with mostly machines and I'm 10x happier. at some point, when you've been lifting long enough, you stop caring about the perfection bullshit. a good workout and progress towards whatever specific goal I'm working on? good enough. miss a day, or a week, or two weeks? eh, just get back into it. once you care less, it gets more fun.you gotta have other shit in your life besides lifting. lifting is a hobby, a tool to feel good and look good, and a good past-time. people who make it into a "lifestyle" have nothing else going on in their lives
>>77127372Use a cordless anon.Corded in 2025 is retarded.
>>77125041>training my physiquei enjoy this so it doesn't feel like "work" nor makes me suffer>clean housei hate this, its an eternal struggle, massive waste of time that cannot be avoided
>>77127499Getting a home gym and living close to your job help but yeah, aging sucks, and once you have children you're perma fucked
>>77125041It takes a lot of effort to have a mid physique and a relatively clean house but only marginally more to have a good physique and a very neat house. It's a question of focus and organization. It takes normies so much effort to build a mid physique because their energy is undirected and they basically just fuck around with machines ineffectually for an hour every day. That mindset carries over to everything else in their lives so they feel crushed by the weight of maintaining a very unremarkable quality of life.
>>77125061Stop, it hurts...
>>77125794 #wow this guy is like rich and stuff wow
>>77125046Fpbp
>>77127499And yet you have time to shitpost here on a weekday, curious.
>>77125412we're always here, friend
>>77125063When will resolutioncels will learn bros?
>>77129343I always check the 'chans for 5 to 10 minutes everyday. Can't be helped much, you guys are unironically the only socialization I get outside of the workplace
>>77125041I'd rather have a mid physique & clean house than not.
>>77125061>You realize you have to do some prehab exercises/stretches. You put together a mobility routine which over time becomes an hour on it's own. You also realize that you should do some cardio so on some days you go running.Lifted for over a decade and never did any of thatI'm always on here telling you guys not to waste your time with that shit, not my fault you didn't listen.
>>77125041I live in the garage. The fucking bugs won't stop invading. I can't clean them all up and even if I do they just appear again the next day.
>>77129950>neets are now living in garages with ze bugsOh how the mighty have fallen
>>77129952I have a job, moved out, and rented this garage. The only problem is that I live in this gay ass city San Francisco.
>>77125041If you don't spend your time getting shit done, then what life do you actually have?
>>77125061Holy shit so true>gf gets mad because we can no longer indulge in shitty food cravings together>gets mad i lost fat and now she is the fatter one, as well as saying how she preferred me fatteralthough its not all bad>gets guilt tripped into becoming more supportive and start cooking healthier shit, does some cardio now and then>helps with house cleaning/meal preparation/some groceries to save me time
Meal prep twice a week for a couple hoursDishes daily or every other day, takes 10 minsClean sinks/toilet/surfaces once a week takes 20 minsTake out garbage takes 10 minsGym every other for an hour or twoOne hike a week for two hours Laundry 2x a week takes 20 minsMop and then Vacuum 2x a month takes 20 mins for each All of this adds up to like 10 hours a week average and if I’m efficient I do them while I’m doing other stuff like watching a show or taking a showerIf you can’t keep up with chores you’re gay
>>77125061Nailed it. But this is why you need something to train for to make it all worth while. Race a 10k or play some sport or whatever. Always have something you are training and not just endlessly trying to improve aesthetically.
>>77125061Yeah. My wife is fat as hell and always tells me that I should take a break and that I was perfect when I was fat and had no energy to fuck. She's mad that I won't eat garbage with her or let her cook me extravagant meals that are 3000 calories anymore.she hates that herextremely obese friends invite us out to dinner and I have a starter as a full meal and then don't orfer a desert which i think comes off as rude to all of them. I think now that I am the leanest I've been since we met while she continues to put on weight is a slap in the face to her.
>>77125041it really isn't all that much.>cleaning the house takes like an hour or two on the weekend if you aren't a filthy animal>have a mid physique just from rowing for a total of 3 hours a weekthat's 5 hours in total, over a full week.
>>77126352>do women unironically expect to have access to their partner anytime they want every single day?yes. you're just an accessory or tool to them. her necklace doesn't get to decide that it's busy right now anymore than her smartphone does, and neither do you, because you rank on the same level as those in her eyes.
>>77125041i let my house get dirtya good physique is built years, it's not actually "a lot of work", it's a habit. it's also not work cause i enjoy it
>>77125041>be me>31 and recently unemployed>been working out like a fiend due to stress>mention this exact meme to my wife and a few friends>they immediately insist "yeah but nobody could possibly call your physique mid, lol">realize how warped my body dysmorphia isInstagram and /fit/ give absolutely absurd standards.Im 190lbs, with visible abs, I lift 1.5/3/3.5/4.5 for reps, I run 10 miles a week, and regularly rock climb, and i consider myself mid because of what I see online.Dont buy the demotivation bait anons. Just enjoy your workouts.
>>77130041This, maintainence is easier when you don't put anything off
I really fucking hate ironing my dress shirts for work, it's so time-consuming, but the necessity to look sharp outweighs the laziness...
