It didn't say anything about health. Are you ok?
>>77125997>if you want to lose weightJust admit you didn't even read it you stupid faggot
>>77125993Americans, like all brown people, are deathly afraid of bread.
>>77125999>reducing your energy intake doesn't result in weight lossFascinating
>>77125999Where is the health claim? Losing weight is not "healthy" by default, tard.
>>77126016>go to fast food restaurant>hello, I'd like a full pound of fried red meat>add some melted cheese and mayo for good measure>hold the bread though, I'm trying to lose weightNothing can convince me that the “people” on this board actually know anything about fitness. It is 100% fat larpers.
>>77126025The choice is between a burger and a burger with the bread replaced with lettuce, you cretin. Also, answer >>77126018.
>>771260251 lb of lean beef is ~700 calories and has a shitload of nutrients and over 100g of proteinSkip the cheese and mayo and yeah it's a great meal esp for cutting
>>77126028>The choice is between a burger and a burger with the bread replaced with lettuceAmerican mind can't conceptualise that not buying a fast food burger is also an option.>>77126029>1 lb of lean beef is ~700 caloriesThis meal does not contain lean beef.>Skip the cheese and mayo and yeah it's a great meal esp for cuttingMacaroni cheese is great for cutting if you take out the macaroni and cheese then replace them with lean beef. Any meal is great for cutting if you take out all the ingredients and replace them with lean beef, because that's just lean beef.
If the aim is to lose weight then it would make more sense to lose the meat because the meat is the heaviest part of the burger.
>>77126029yeah bro that mcdonalds patty is surely coming from a lean source of beef packed with nutrients
>>77125999Just admit you have zero reading comprehension nigger
>>77126058Funnily enough, mcdonalds actually switched to 100% beef patties a few years ago, they are the only good ingredient that they offer
>>77126025>>77126042>it literally does not occur to the foreign mind that we make them at home, too
Fatties simply refuse to accept the fact that meat and dairy are better weight loss food than their endless garbage salads and whatever else they fall for. My fat fuck coworkers keep stuffing their faces with salads, rice and other trash I wouldn't feed to a pig, all while lamenting I "can eat everything and not get fat".
better to eat this than the bread they gave you>you don't have to eat thismost people don't care about fitnessthis is better than nothingalso most people go out instead of larping on here
This is all because fat retarded influencers tell people calories don't matter. They have no understanding of the thermal effect of protein vs carbs, so it's not like they're telling you to do this because of that, they really just think carbs make you fat. It's pure retardation. That burger is still probably 1000 calories without the bun. I hate fatties that "diet" while trying their hardest to turn everything into "healthy" junk food
>>77126087>100% beefWhat was in the beef patties before?>>77126093That's because you don't.
>>77125993What's "unhealthy" about it?If a healthy person eats it, what happens to their health?
>>77125993What's the unhealthy part if we assume the meat, cheese and vegetables are at least mostly genuine and not some slop where it's just 10% meat actually
>>77126147>cheesy things are only bad for you because companies swap real cheese out for fake cheeseYet another strange window into the American mind. Cheese is bad for you because it's 1/3rd fat and full of salt. There isn't some magic “real cheese” that you can dump all over whatever you want and have it be healthy.>>77126137The “no unhealthy foods” argument is what fat acceptance people use.
>>77125993Please forgive Grimmi she's a starving victorian child
>>77126097i know a carnivore fatass but he won’t give up soda which makes his expensive bbq diet pointless
>>77126225Kek yeah that guy is an idiot>>77125993You won't lose weight eating one of those every day. However, lettuce wrapped burgers are delicious. I always like a good bun but I find on hotter days that I like a lettuce wrapped burger more. Especially if it's butter lettuce
>>77125993
>>77126174>The “no unhealthy foods” argument is what fat acceptance people use.so you think high calorie = "unhealthy" ?And I never said there were no unhealthy foods. I just asked what's unhealthy about beef, cheese, bread and some sauce.
Unironically, a smash burger with 90% lean beef and a slice of cheddar, malt vinegar, and spinach on a whole wheat bun is a perfectly healthy meal.
>>77126028Still waiting for you to point out the health claim.
>>77125993Americans really live rent free in Europoors heads
>>77125993Engagement bait to get you to sub to her onlyfans
>>77125993Since when does a bun overpower the taste of the burger and cheese? The difference is maybe 150 calories and If you're so fat you need muh lettuce wrap then you shouldn't be eating the cheeseburger in the first place.
>>77126308>so you think high calorie = "unhealthy" ?Yup. Fatties struggle with this.>beef, cheese, bread and some sauceFat, fat, carbs, and fat. Fatties will say they need it and they'd be nutrient deficient if they ate a more balanced diet.>>77126338>say something stupid>“hey, that's stupid”>rent freeDo you think that tweet is a picture of something that happened in my head?
>>77126225Sounds like a ticket to kidney stone town.>>77126239I don't make burgers anymore, I just plop the patty, cheese and condiments on a bed of various leafy greens.
>>77126428So you basically make a cheeseburger salad? That sounds pretty good
>>77126381So according to you fat, carbs and calories are all "unhealthy" in any quantity?
I just got a whopper after my workout :D
>>77126448Pics or it didn't happen.
>>77126433I guess that's quite pushing the definition of "salad". This is the closest I could find, but their stacking order is wrong. I also make the patty quite large and thinner, for some extra crispiness.
>>77126456Turd on lettuce.
>>77126042>American Mind can't conceptualise that not buying a fast food burger is also an optionActually plenty of us do numbnuts, there's 400 million of us, sorry one nigger on twitter speaks for everyone in America, try being less obsessed about the Good ol US of A
>>77126466>he actually typed out the text to which he was respondinglmao!
>>77125993its just meat. fucking retard kys
>>77126461well MY turd is covered in stuff
>>77126025Supposedly getting it with two patties and cheese slices is still under 500 calories per burger.
>>77126524Andy Sixx's logs are the only turds I eat.
>>77126308>what's unhealthy about beef, cheese, bread and some sauce>Beef30% fat cooked in more oil>CheeseFake cheese that's mostly fat>BreadLikely tons of sugars and fats>Some sauce"Some" sauce is probably 3-4 servings of sauce. Again, mostly fat.Fat isn't inherently bad for you, but the types of fat in the OP are, especially in high quantities. All the artery clogging fats aren't going to get cancelled out because there's a bit of lettuce and tomato. Instead of being a 1800cal burger with some carbs, it's now a 1400cal burger and no carbs! It's not providing enough key nutrients, especially for the amount of calories.
>>77126018>Losing weight is not "healthy" by defaultyes it is, that dude who ate nothing but mcdonalds while maintaining a caloric deficit proved as much, all of his blood markers improved
>>77126552Wow, look at this absolute beacon of health!
>>77126552Sure bro an anorexic who weighs 40 lbs is healthier than when they were 60
>>77126552Cicofags are retarded
>>77126550>>>/b/
>>77126560>>77126566youre being disingenuous, yes starving yourself is not healthy, but being in a caloric deficit is, thats just a fact and there are countless studies that back that up>>77126578i dont disagree, quality of food matters
>>77126591Grow up E.
>>77126597Calorie deficit indefinitely?What.
>>77126436>hey, linda, stop stuffing your face with candy >oh so you think sugar in any quantity is unhealthy?Unhealthy in the quantities pictured. This is more fat acceptance bullshit.
>>77126606A calorie is not a calorie.
>>77125993Its all about calrie deficit you queerbait homosexual. Multiply your weight in LBS by 15 and youll get you stay the same weight number. Go BELOW that number and youll lose, above and youll gain. Doesnt matter if its lolipops hamburgers or strawberries. Calories. >simple as
>>77126623>oh you think my 3kg sack of candy is unhealthy?>well what if I only eat one jelly bean per day?
>>77126646All food are calories but not all calories are food.1 gram of plutonium has around 20 billion calories.
>>77125993The bun is one of the least nutrient dense components of the burger. The mayo is less nutrient dense (assuming the sauce is a mixture of mayo and ketchup, which is typical burger sauce). Nutrient density is defined as "vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, and protein per calorie."Highest to lowest:Beef pattyTomatoLettuceOnionPicklesCheeseBunKetchupMayonnaise
>>77126654All that money wasted on mass gainer when I could have just eaten plutonium. Probably lower on heavy metals too.
>>77126668>Nutrient density is defined as "vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, and protein per calorie."That's not how maths works. You can't add unlike quantities.
>>77126668Lettuce, tomato, and cheese are more nutritious it's why vegetarians live longer.
>>77126042>This meal does not contain lean beef.Even fatty ground beef is very high in protein and other beneficial nutrients. Yes the saturated fat in beef is very high. If we're assuming this burger in OP is 1 pound of ground beef, the 80/20% (which is the fattiest you would probably find that would be edible) has 35g of saturated fat, which is probably 10-15g higher than a person should take in, in an entire day. Add to that the cheese and mayo and the amount of saturated fat is probably close to 50g or more. That causes short term inflammation and arterial stiffness. For a healthy person, this one burger wont cause any lasting damage, but a diet with this kind of meal frequently is in for trouble.
>>77126674They are profiled and assigned a score. Do you need me to google it for you, retard?
>>77126674God you're so fucking stupid
>>77126606>Eating a burger is the same as eating huge amounts of candy >the amount picturedso you originally said carbs, fat and calories are unhealthy, but now you're moving the goalposts to an arbitrary amount you deem unhealthy.
>>77125993Is it actual dairy cheese ? Is the meat cooked in it's own grease or at worst in olive oil ?I know both are no, but if yes this is unironically a complete healthy meal. If you mince some liver in you can live your entire life with this and survive longer and be healthier than everyone else around you
>>77125993If the meat is good quality, you use real cheese and the right sauce this would be delicious, nutritious and healthy.
>>77126768I like meat too.
>>77125993It's basically a handheld salad. You still need to eat less than you burn.
>>77125997>>77126005>>77126025>>77126049The bread alone is over 500 calories.Without it fast food has godly caloric to price ratio.
>>77126768Except this much ground beef and cheese (you can tell it's American cheese, which isn't necessarily NOT real, it just has a higher saturated fat content which makes it melt evenly) contains way too much saturated fat for even a whole day. While that's maybe not the end of the world for one burger, it's a really bad way to eat regularly.A more modest burger with one 1/4 pound of beef and one slice of cheese would be a much healthier meal and even would be beneficial as it would be highly nutrient dense.
This thread is hilarious.Buncha dyel faggots scared to death of a cheeseburger. Or even just a piece of bread.This is why you people have no friends.Your buddy says lets go get some burgers and you start sperging out about goyslop or whatever.
>>77126907If you wanna eat the burger, that's fine, but don't pretend it's a good option for weight loss.
>>77126930Who said that? You're literally just making shit up in your head and accusing me of saying it.The premise of this thread was that its "unhealthy" but now its just "not a good option for weight loss".And there isnt a single person in the world who thinks its is.
>>77125993Tried this at In-n-Out and it was a fucking mess. You need a bun to soak all the juices otherwise it just drips fucking everywhere. Would not recommend.
>>77126606You dont even know what you’re arguing about
>>77126940>Who said that?Read the pic from OP.>And there isnt a single person in the world who thinks its is.>>77126016
>>77127022I dont think you even read the posts you're referencing.Are you indian?just wondering
>>77127031Wasn't it you who didn't read the literal first 6 words of the image in OP? Meanwhile I reply to a post suggesting eating that monstrosity is somehow reducing calorie intake and will result in weight loss.
>>77125993It's more healthy than buns, which is entirely the point. Are you retarded, jeet?
>>77125993>soaking the lettuce >welting the lettuce>ruining the lettucePeople get sick all the time from eating lettuce. That and the citric acid they coat them with is disgusting. Same with niggers who put raw onions and put all the condiments on the same side
>>77125993>LE HECKING BREAD IS EVILI'm so tired of this retarded meme. Bread is near impossible to eat a lot of and has fuck all calories relatively
>>77125993That is healthy
>>77126025I thought we as a society were past the red meat scare?
>>77125993I be eating these once or twice weekly. Perfect for keeping my carb to protein ratio decent.It's crazy how jeets and eurofags say shit like this. When I travel, I genuinely can't believe how small these people are. There's 12 year olds in the midwest with more muscle than europoor body builders.
>>77126668the bun sold by fast food joints like mcd and bk is also a horror show in terms of ingredients
>>77125993>ground beefIf it's good quality it's fairly nutritious. Good source of several nutrients and protein.>lettuceThe right kind has plenty of C and fiber>onionsGood source of several vitamins>picklesGood source of several vitamins>cheeseGood source of calcium and vitamin K2>tomatoes Good source of magnesium>dressingDepends on the dressing. The only thing "unhealthy" about that might be the portion size depending on how much someone eats in a day. Most foods are healthy if they're eaten in moderation. A cheeseburger is no exception.
>>77127041>a facebook ragebait post is what people think in real lifeyup, a fucking indiam
>>77126984>buy burger meat, bacon, lettuce, etc>wow 1lb of meat makes like 3-4 thin crispy ones but without filler or msg>roasted potatoes are way better and no 1/8 cup of oil for 2 orders of friesRestaurants round up protein, round down everything else, have preservatives.
>>77127207>moderationWhat is this a weight loss forum?
>>77125993Things are not alright...
>>77127248>20 nugs >basket of fries in either cold and oil soaked or burnt old oil>shelf stable milk and egg product>bread and/or potatoes that are made to be shipped halfway across a continent>ground meat that is dyed and almost minty smellingYoure basically eating astronaut food and all of the cost is labor.
>>77127264So you're some retarded foreigner who thinks the only way you can get a burger in the USA is to get one from McDonalds because that's how it is your barbarian land
>>77125993It is healthy it is not a matter of opinion.
>>77126025Ah yes, factory farmed beef. Famously full of nutrients.
>>77126703You actually should consume double or triple that amount of saturated fat daily as homo sapiens evolved 300,000 years ago in the middle of the ice age and ate 90% large game of which 80% was fatty meat.
>>77126878True when our ancestors killed large game animals they only ate 1/4 pound of the meat and ate kale and guacamole chips for the rest of the day.
>>77127277I usually opt for a steak when I think about going out to eat
>>77127153The data continue to show that it is likely worse for you than other kinds of meat and fish when it comes to health, and it is also often fattier and more readily over-consumed. “Eat less burmgers and more chicken salad” is good diet advice for most people.
>>77127388Why do you base your diet decisions off of the food of cave men? I highly doubt they were eating optimally, or had very good theories of nutrition.
>>77127421>Diet decisions of cave menHomo sapiens evolved 300,000 years ago and we're homo sapiens therefore said people were following the diet we're adapted to.>I highly doubt they were eating optimally or had very good theories of nutrition"Theories of nutrition" like the average person's life expectancy hasn't been decreasing for the past couple decades because of endless useless theories.>>77127153This guy might as well be chatGPT he just brought up the >Bro cavemen were retarded nothing they do is good>Just follow theories and not your instinctsArgument.
>>77125993The grease in the burger and crap in the sauce is the problemMeat good, veggies good, cheese meh
>>77126029That’s not ground red meat; that’s mystery meat cooked in god knows what
>>77127427Cavemen lacked access to the food of their choice and this forced them to eat suboptimally and often starve. The assumption that the optimal diet is whatever they ate in larger quantities is not sound. Theories of nutrition have been very successful in countries that have applied them. America is not such a countries. Instead you install a podcaster as your head of health and your population totally ignores guidelines set up by experts in favour of fad diets like veganism, keto, and now carnivore. The full gamut of meme bullshit but never trying a balanced diet as recommended by boring old scientists. So now you have a country full of lunitics trying to argue that a pile of mystery meat and cheese with 4 lettuce leaves is actually not junk food at all.
>>77127445This is just entirely chatGPT>Lacked access to the food of their choiceLike lions and jaguars or any other carnivore would choose plants, lmao. Plants are a starvation food and they might eat some fruits and tubers when they're in season, but mostly meat.>Theories of nutrition have been very successfulJust making things up like always.Blue zones aren't real btw and the countries that live the longest just live relaxed lives by the ocean.
>>77127445I'm going to bed now but I want to point out this anon made zero arguments the entire time and just relied on>Da science saysWithout citing any of said science or reading any papers or anything, basically he just repeats what he's told by people who made up the food pyramid.>A balanced dietFed my cat this and it died. Oh wait that doesn't count, fed my dog this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my goldfish this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my monkey this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count.
>>77127451>Like lions and jaguars or any other carnivore would choose plants, lmao.Almost as if humans are omnivores and not carnivores.>countries that live the longest just live relaxed lives by the ocean.Japan, South Korea, and Hong Kong are not relaxed countries lol. They are countries where people eat the kinds of foot that diet experts recommend. And experts recommend those things because the people who eat them live longer.>>77127460I shouldn't need to cite the science that tells us fast food burgers are bad for you.>Fed my cat this and it died. Oh wait that doesn't count, fed my dog this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my goldfish this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my monkey this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count.1. No you didn't.2. Dogs are very good at surviving with human food.3. Monkeys would also do well.4. Why are you basing your diet off what animals with totally different digestive systems eat? This is just rat-study bullshit. If you feed a cow carnivore diet, it will die. Same goes for goldfish.
>>77126560Fat pig
>>77127041Yes, replacing bread with lettuce will reduce your calorie intake. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
>>77127433Fix your bot
>>77126225>carnivore>soda So he is not on carnivore.You prove only that you are (and so is he) are retarded.
>>77125999Lmao kill yourself retard. You're literally too stupid to live
>>77125993I hate lettuce-wrapped burgers. The bread is supposed to suck up the juices. Lettuce-wraps drip and spill everywhere.
>>77125993Get rid of the sauce and it would be pretty good. Far better than using burger buns (pretty much just cake).
>>77125993Looks better than shitty white glyphosate-laden bread. I don't see the problem.>>77126005Every single thread contains some disinformation agent saying the opposite of the truth. Browns love bread and grains and legumes. That's why jeets shit in the street 9 times a day. It should be punishable by death to lie so shamelessly.
>>77126097This. I eat almost exclusively meat and I struggle to keep weight on. If I stop going to the gym, I lose weight effortlessly due to muscle loss. I've probably never been above 15% bodyfat.
>>77126225>i know a carnivore fatassNo you don't.
>>77127468>1. No you didn't.I just have to assume this is some form of trolling, there's no way a real person wrote this.
Lol did your semen rations not come in today, Nigel?OBSESSED
If you start a sentence with "do Americans," I just know you're a homosexual or brown and gay.
>>77128159Most latin american countries have some sort of bread for breakfast and/or supper almost every day
>>77128276I can't even keep up with anti-American talking points, but eating too much bread has been one of the issues for Amerifats
>>77125993Americans will do anything but eating less shit.
>>77128278Isn't american bread made differently from other breads IIRC? Our bread goes bad in a couple days, US bread is made to not spoil so quickly
>>77128175>he won't give up sodaRead the whole sentence, tiktokbrain
>>77128314I think it depends on what bread and where you buy it
>>77128333I'm calling you a liar. You don't know someone on the carnivore diet. You are just some vegan jeet here to try to trick anons into not eating meat.
>>77128398I also didn't post that
>>77128314I think I remember hearing it's much higher in sugar, and would technically be classed as cake in some regions.
>>77128314>American breadYou can go to the grocery and buy a milliion different kinds of bread.All bread here isnt Wonder Bread just like all burgers aren't McDonald's.
>>77125999Crystal meth is the best way to lose weight.
>>77128561What's the composition of the most commonly consumed bread then
>>77128618how the fuck should I know?Do you think I stand outside walmart checking the ingredients of the bread people buy?And also why do care so much about what bread people eat? I sure dont.Oh but you're one these "bread is poison" weirdos so you're not even sane.
>>77128650I eat bread, just not the corn syrup thing you americans eat lol>how the fuck should I know?There's probably statistics online? You're the one waving the murican flag around, bring some evidence or something before getting mad at random yuros
>>77128766then why dont you look it up, faggot. You're the one who wants to know.Do I look like your AI assistant?Seriously is this how you spend your day? Sitting around on the internet worrying what kind of bread people are eating in a country you will never even step foot in?Get a life, loser.
>>77125999Bait
>>77128129>The bread is supposed to suck up the juicesno its notthat's why they specifically toast the inside and put a fat like mayo onto it
>>77125999>assuming Americans know how to read
>>77126865You are mentally handicapped.
>>77128314Yes, American bread is disgusting and toxic compared to European bread, just as an example
>>77129067>European breadthe EU allows synthetic pesticides and GMOs for bread too so what the fuck are you talking about
>>77129078My own brother has compared bread in France to bread in the U.S. and noted that the former didn't bother him at all but the latter gave him digestive and skin problems. I don't care about your dumb pilpul. Clearly there is something seriously wrong with American bread.
>>77129086And that makes Round-Up and GMO seeds OK to eat how exactly? Because both are allowed by the EU as well, you know.Man, you europeans are stupid.
>>77129078GMO foods need less pesticide. This is one of the reasons “organic” (non-GMO) food can have much more pesticide residue on it.
>>77129086lol no he didnt.You're either making it up or you brother is the frailest pussy to walk the earth.
>>77129086le everrrthing ees better een frahnce!>le fart>le sneeeeeef
>>77129086>bread make my stummy hurd
>>77129172It's >le everytin is betteur en franceget your racism straight
>>77129172They got good bread. I hate France and I can't deny that.
>>77125993it's got vegetables
>>77129106I'm not even European, you drooling retard.>>77129129Ok bud>>77129172>everything's betterNo, just bread>>77129230Fag
>>77125993I'm healthy and I eat this
>>77129233What distinct "race" is France again?
>>77130530Evidence is lacking
>>77130530Sure you are boogie
>>77130555a race of fags and pussys
>>77125993It's mostly beef so probably
>>77131041Is this mcdonalds? Does mcdonalds sell this? Just make this at home with ground beef or just eat the ground beef. I thought the idea of burgers is that there's the main dish of the beef and other cheaper components.
Not reading all the thread. Just wanted to say that I tried a Jimmy John's unwich before. While it was pretty good, it was a fucking mess. Water everywhere, completely fucked the integrity of the sandwich. Deeply offensive. Yes you're reducing carbs and calories, but at what cost?
>>77131044Fix your bot
>do Americans reallyREMINDERThe op (kekke) is a 38 year old trooned out wog from australia. He doesn't work and literally does not go outside. His life revolves around spamming 4chanREMINDER
>>77131068Yea I didn’t ask
>>77125993Yes if you remember the fact that American patties are considered a sweet pastry in European countries
>>77127460>Fed my cat this and it died. Oh wait that doesn't count, fed my dog this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my goldfish this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count, fed my monkey this and it died, oh wait that doesn't count.>>77127451>Like lions and jaguars or any other carnivore would choose plants, lmao. Are you a fucking furry or something? Why are you comparing your diet to cats, dogs, and fish, as if you are one of those things?>I put engine oil in my television because cars are basically the same as a TV!Take a long walk off a short pier.
>>77131740Nowhere in Europe is a beef patty considered a sweet pastry
>>77132078
>>77132034>Why are you comparing yourself to other animals?>Humans are like, special bro, don't use any other animals for comparison and just only look at peer-reviewed studies!>>77131064Obviously fails at the idea of even being a burger, at that point put it on the plate, grind the beef in-restaurant so they can legally sell it rare, and just put the ingredients on a plate and eat it with silverware.
>>77126110various other meats. I can't recall for mcdonalds specifically, but I do know that Taco Bell at one point included Kangaroo in their generic "meat." That was in the states btw.
>>77126087>Funnily enough, mcdonalds actually switched to 100% beef patties a few years ago,Funnily enough, you're lyingHere's an ingredient breakdown of all menu items from 2010https://www.scribd.com/document/94507114/mcdonalds-ingredientslist
>>77132731>taco bell in the US sold kangaroo meatNext time make the blatant lie more believable
>can't even understand that reducing calories to lose weight is not necessarily the same thing as healthy eatingProfound level of retardation. Good job, OP
>>77125993>do americansi dont even use x or instantgramofcoke or fagbook dude what makes you think i care about this shit
>>77125993it's retarded women who think they will lose weight eating thatif you want to lose weight you eat low calorie foods like potatoes and broccoli
>>77132841most people do believe that though.They think that high calorie food like pizza is "fattening" and therefore "unhealthy". Calorie dense food = unhealthy is common right here in this thread.
>>77128175future cancer patient diet
>>77132978Funny how most vegans look like cancer patients
>>77132936>lose weight by eating pesticide sponges>lose weight eating potatoesLol. Don't quit your day job anon (picking bottles out of the trash)
>>77133149Both are wasting diseases so the effects are the same
>I will make a thread designed to allow me to argue with people>I will enter a thread designed to make me argue with people and then argue>I will argue any topic, no matter how inane it ishow do we make a containment zone for hapless retards that keeps them entirely away from the handful of us who still have two brain cells to rub together?
>>77125993are the americans in the room with us now?
>>77126668You forgot the 38 chemicals that are banned in every other first-world country.
>>77126768>If the meat is good qualityIt won't be if you getting it from 99% of American restaurants. Things are fucked.RFK even admitted he hasn't been able to make headway in banning glyphosates. Everything is just intrinsically fucked.
>>77133173Yeah, you're right. He shouldn't be in line. Burger patties and cheese. Surely nobody has ever gained weight doing that.
>>77133404They're probably tapping into your mics and cams so they can watch you watch porn desu
Yeah just follow the new chad-foodpyramidIts approved by the government!
>>77125993>anime girl avatar >it's some obese dude behind the keyboard Like clockwork
>>77133880>butter >healthy fatButter has zero nutritional value
>>77134367How can one retard be so wrong?
>>77131433I'm a 21-year-old white guy from England.
>>77132380>don't use any other animals for comparisonI could say “fed carnivore to my cow and it died.” There, just proved that carnivore diet is bad. Literally every animal has different diets. They're all special. >>77133149The average person looks like this + 40lbs of fat. That is a worse body-composition.
>>77134463>I could say "fed carnivore to my cow and it died"I never once mentioned carnivore in that post, mental illness. You're so severely brainwashed that you can't understand extremely simple analogies, can't do any kind of logic, all you can make are retarded statements repeatedly.>Humans are like, special bro. Don't use any animals for comparison.
>>77133720They’re gaining weight because they’re eating a caloric surplus
>>77134643Please explain to me what you think the point of the post you're replying to was.
>>77134587It doesn't matter which diet you mention, almost all diets which humans can eat will fuck up the majority of animals. It's the same reason most drugs that work in rat studies do not work in people. The closest thing we have to humans are apes, and even then they are very different.>Humans are like, special bro. Don't use any animals for comparisonThe human digestive system is distinct from most other animals. We have evolved to eat cooked and processed foods, no other animal is capable of cooking its food. Try putting diesel in a petrol car and you'll find out that just because two things look somewhat similar doesn't mean they work with the same fuel.
Made these for a while when I was keto. They're terrible. Without bread burgers are shit. Surprise surprise.
>>77129230literally me ;_;
>>77133173I eat potatoes and broccoli on cuts all the time.Care to explain the weight loss?
>>77134673Yeah you put a lot of words on screen for this one but it's just literally saying>Humans are like, special bro, don't use animals for comparisonYeah that's exactly what I knew you were saying the whole time you didn't have to write it for 3 posts, and you also didn't have to emotionally react for all 3 posts with still no argument.>>77134676Ground meat (no bread) is literally ONLY good if you put honey or something on it to make it more palatable, or if it's a fatty cut of meat cooked rare / raw like a tartare. Yeah, ground beef is generally overcooked and disgusting in most configurations. I could eat 5 rare hamburgers in a sitting and feel fine and enjoy it though.
>>77132936>>77133173>Lose weight eating potatoesActually a good plan since as far as vegetables go they're fairly neutral and inoffensive if you don't do meme shit like fry them in oil, they're literally balls of fiber with carbs hidden inside so it's almost impossible to gain weight on just potatoes>Lose weight eating broccoli Holy oxalates, not just in your kidneys but in your brain and balls at that point, your future kids will be retarded and you'll have brain fog and some kind of eating disorder.Just stick with the potatoes, tubers are possibly the best carb you can eat.
>>77134895>Humans are like, special bro, don't use animals for comparisonThis is true, I have given you good reason it's true, and you have no response. I accept your concession.
>do AmericansAll board need /pol/ flags so we can tell who is just another shitty brown supremacist trying to troll from their latinx ghetto state.
>>77134906>oxalatesBroccoli has lower oxalates than potatoes and it doesn't matter because they are a meme.
>>77135093>I have given you a good reason it's trueIt took me 4 posts of saying exactly what you were doing before you even gave me any reason at all, then you admitted it>Humans are special bro we're different broYeah that's not a good reason, no argument presented.
>>77135174You said it four times in a row, I agreed every time and told you why. Maybe you should stop repeating yourself pointlessly and try to engage with what others say.>Humans are special bro we're different broDifferent from what? Are you suggesting there is some universal diet eaten by every species except humans? We are the same as every other animal, that is we cannot eat the diet of another species.
>>77135216>>Are you suggestingI never once suggested anything like this, all you can do is strawman>We are the same as every other animalYup>That is, we cannot eat the diet of another species???Are you just retarded, honest question?
>>77125993>>77125999>>77126005The woman who made this a Twitter post has a hole in her head, please have mercy on her
Grimmi on da /fit/!
>>77125999esl pajeet retard
>>77126025The state of /fit/ that you people don't understand the weight loss benefits of REDUCING carb intakeWe're fucking doomed
>>77125993Europeans are literally stupid as fuck
>>77135988If you could illustrate what you think the point of his post was, that would be great -because you totally misunderstood it.
>>77135988>increasing strength>increasing muscle mass"eat a damn thalad"
>>77136037The second most people start lifting is the last day they ever "eat too much." You're lifting weights not running for endurance.
>>77136049Literally nothing you just said is relevant to the post chain.
>>77136050>not increasing carb freq during a cut>not tapering after hard cut hoursThere ya go. Are you an assmad european aristocrat who limits his meals? After all we aren't barbarians.
>>77136069>>77136050
>>77126005American bread is barely "bread". Some countries straight up classify it as a cake due to the sugar content.
>>77136049So you agree with me that holding the buns from the burger is stupid?
>>77136362good morning
>>77126025>go to fast food restaurant>eat 1/lb of fried red meat at ~1,150 calories>eat 3 slices of american cheese at 104 calories each, total 312 calories>eat mayo at ~300 calories>be at around ~1800 calories,>hold the 500 calories of sugary bread, so I can stay in a caloric deficit
>>77136433>You can't even point out a basic fact without insecure retards trying to imply you're Indian nowI'm not insulting your country by pointing this out, faggot.
>>77136455The bun is 150 calories, not 500.
>>77136481>protein style>bun replaced with lettuce (foodstuff that has no protein)
>>77127384We also didn’t use soap or antibiotics back then. So we shouldn’t use them now? Anon I’m afraid you’re severely retarded. Don’t bother responding to me unless it includes a formal apology for being so uselessly stupid despite the gigantic advantage in intelligence evolution has supposedly given you over other animals
>>77136362Which countries? Show a pic of American white bread labelled as cake in one of these countries.
Of course that isn't healthy. There's no reason to eat lettuce, onion, tomato, or that sauce that's on it.The beef and cheese is healthy though.
