Beef causes cancer. Regardless of how it's cooked.https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(15)00444-1/abstracthttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22412075/Thoughts?
>>77148955Wrong.
>>77148963Prove it's wrong.
>>77148967>Prove it's wrong.PanSunBernstein
>>77148977Not proof. Post actual proof.
>>77148984yes it is
>>77148985It isn't.
>>77148987is
>>77148955Mechanistic studies don't back this up. Raw meat can have colibactin, that's a carcinogen. Over-cooked meat can have PAHs/HAs/AGEs, also carcinogens.In between the different types of cooking skill issues, there is no mechanistic evidence. Therefore, I discount the epidemiological studies of cooking skill issues normies who donno bout sous viding in ceramic containers with acid baths.
>>77148993>studies don't back this upLink those studies.>types of cookingBeef itself is carcinogenic. Regardless of the way it's cooked.>>77148989It really isn't.
>>77148955Beef is anti-fitness, only retards eat beef.
Ever notice beef eaters have weird red skin?
>>77149002>Link those studies.How bout...>https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/mbio.02393-17>https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/diet/cooked-meats-fact-sheet>Beef itself is carcinogenic. Regardless of the way it's cooked.How about...>Link those studies.EXCLUDING population observational shit and/or different kinds of cooking skill issues.
>>77149010What do you expect, when cows are injected with zillions of carcinogenic chemicals?
>>77149017>What do you expect, when cows are injected with zillions of carcinogenic chemicals?Cows eventually evolve giga-cancer resistance genes and start storing their DNA like a mix of elephants and deinococcus radiodurans.
>>77148955I think that's inaccurate.
>>77148955Any more pearls of wisdom you can share from the talmud op?
>>77149066Wasn't Hitler a nazi?I mean a vegan
I like beef and I hate my life, so whatever
>>77148955Just eat your slop, goy
>>77149070He only had a single testicule.
>>77148967How did the shitty study prove it?
>>77148955and every single vegetable and fruit has arsenic, long term arsenic exposure causes cancer.that's just one of the things in plants that causes cancer.
>>77149086>the masculine urge to remove one of your balls so you can fulfill your destiny and wage world war III
>>77149066
>>77149070He was both a ve-nogainz and a not-see. He was a total midwit in both nutrition and genetics, such that even Iceland these days is doing better on both fronts; although their decision to genocide the downies instead of CRISPR experimenting on them is still pretty midwit.>>77149095Except they have a lot of phytochemcals with anti-carcinogenic properties too, and have a lot of population-based studies showing lower cancer rates from higher consumption. But ve-nogainz do end up underw8 and grey-haired quickly in almost every case, so don't go full plant like Shitler.
Proof beef causes cancer using hard science. No associative or epidemiological bullshit.
>>77149096Stalin had 3.
>>77149114that's not how it works newfag.long term arsenic exposure causes cancer, period. arsenic can not be negated during the digestion process.your blood can negate some arsenic because arsenic is created as a chemical byproduct within the body to the smallest degree.Your stomach has no such process and arsenic damages your stomach.All plants have arsenic. All of them.Plants cause cancer.This is just one of the many things in plants that causes cancer.lurk moar before posting.
>>77149138Trvke. Vegans also have a higher chance of colorectal cancer.
>>77149138>blah blah arsenic schzio>>77149147>Trvke>Fruit and vegetable intake and the risk of colorectal cancer: Results from the Shanghai Men's Health Study>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3805771/>fruit consumption was inversely associated with the risk of colorectal cancer (5th vs. 1st quintile HR: 0.67; 95% CI: 0.48, 0.95; P trend = 0.03), whereas vegetable intake was not significantly associated with risk. The associations for sub-groups of fruits and legumes, but not other vegetable categories, were generally inversely associated with the risk of colon and rectal cancer.Try harder, but vegan still sux 4 other reasons.
>>77149160>being this mad you got btfoBefore your blood pressure dips any further and those b12 levels crash i'm gonna sit you down real soft in front of the fire. I know how cold and sensitive your vegan hands get from lack of iron.It's okay bby, i'll treat you real good and get you a big ole sausage to shove down that throat.
>>77149165You can keep getting BTFO by real /sci/entific evidence here!>Vegetarian Dietary Patterns and the Risk of Colorectal Cancers>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4420687/>The adjusted hazard ratios (HRs) in all vegetarians combined vs nonvegetarians were 0.78 (95% CI, 0.64–0.95) for all colorectal cancers, 0.81 (95%CI, 0.65–1.00) for colon cancer, and 0.71 (95% CI, 0.47–1.06) for rectal cancer.Vegan/vegetarian diets generally provide very marginal shit-tier chemoprophylaxis against ass cancer. Just cook your meats properly and focus on also eating specific plants with mechanistic anti-ass cancer evidence if you're paranoid.
>>77149170Yeah that's right you keep posting those links you little slut, you want to ruffle my feathers and get my juices flowing.You'll taste them soon boy, you're gonna learn today.I'm gonna call my boys up and give you a big ole shot of B5 and you won't be getting D3, but you will be getting 3 Ds at the same time.With your tight little jeet ass.
>>77149170anti-cancer means anti-celleating plants is like low dose chemotherapy.
>>77149173You probably ate so much liver you gave yourself copper poisoning or something. I'm neither a jeet nor vegan, kek.>>77149175>anti-cancer means anti-cellnot exactly; only a subset of chemotherapies are cytotoxic or genotoxic, many others inhibit specific cellular functions up-regulated in specific cancers.
>>77148955Is this really fitness related?
>>77149160Ok, so just meat and fruit for the win
>>77149114Hitler wasn't a vegan he ate a ton of sweets that contained butter, cream etc
>meat causes extra ass cancer>how much extra? >from 20 cases per 100000 to 25 cases per 100000On CVD the discussion is more complex and more worrying though.
I like potatoes and sweet potatoes, ready to fight a nigga who wanna step up? Meet me somewhere!!!
>>77149221yes but such threads never get anywhere really
>>77148955All these studies are a complete joke on many levels but either way I'd rather get cancer from something consumed since the dawn of time (meat) than goyslop, thanks for the heads up though rabbi
>>77149350Skip the red meat altogether. It's loaded with carcinogens like heterocyclic amines and heme iron that spike cancer risks, per WHO classifications. Go plant-based instead and dodge the health roulette your ancestors lost early, those same Christian forebears who worshipped a rabbi named Jesus.
>>77149350What's wrong with the studies? Also the excuse of "people back then did it!" makes no sense because people also ate raw pork, pufferfish and other shit back then. Your excuses are so weak.
>>77149313>Grifter diet>"win"Pick one
>>77149466>per WHO classificationsoh no, not the the WHO!
>>77148967>Prove it's wrong.I've been eating meat my entire life. Never had any cancer. Now fuck off.
>>77149798>personal anecdoteNot proof.
>>77148955>Beef causes cancerwhere do they make that claim, you dipshitYou can't even read
>>77149946Beef counts as red meat. You stupid mongoloid retard.
>>77149956right you failed to understand my point because you lack reading comprehension: "is associated with" does not mean "causes", does it?
>>77149962Red meat is currently classified as a carcinogen, because many studies link it to many different types of cancer. Including ones that is already linked to the OP. Unless you post more convincing studies that deny red meat is carcinogenic, your cope is weak.
>>77149978simply answer my previous question you little shit, where in the study you linked is it claimed that beef causes cancer?
>>77149660>n = billionsno!>n = 30omg yes, eat the goyslop!are you genuinely retarded?
>>77148955>the lancetthese are the same people who said the corona virus comes from a mystery racoon dog population that has never been found after 7 years and everyone who says it's from the wuhan lab is a conpiracy theorist. why should I trust these people over something natural as eating meat?
>>77149991Verbatim fallacy. There is an overwhelming number of studies that link red meat to cancer, to the point that red meat is officially a carcinogen. When there is too much proof of a claim, it can be demonstrated to be true, even if not said verbatim. You don't have to directly witness a murder to realize who done it if you find the gun in the owner's house with the bullets lodged in the corpse in the basement. At that point, burden of proof is on you to debunk what has too much evidence. Now show me a reputable study that says red meat is NOT linked to cancer. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>77150014>goyslopThat's the red meat from cows pumped full of carcinogenic chemicals that you give kikes your money for. You're actually the braindead retard consoomer here lmao.
>>77150115You could just say yes.
>>77150199The fact you didn't deny what you're replying to says it all.
>>77148955how come they care about discouraging you from eating meat but they don't want to solve any of the other carcinogens in our environment that are more directly linked to causing cancer?
>>77150279Deny what exactly, did you seriously write that previous post as an argument? You think that meat is goyslop, the most readily available food in the purest form in nature? You think that you have to buy meat in the form of bacon full of the "carcinogenic kike chemicals" for the "consumerists" or what do retards like you think exactly? Other people don't share your delusions and you can't expect anyone to take you seriously. I don't care about your fantasies schizo you are talking to yourself again retard.
>>77150289>they don't want to solve any of the other carcinogens in our environment that are more directly linked to causing cancer?What do you meanhttps://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(08)70286-9/abstract
>>77150113what is that disgusting word salad? you're far too stupid for thiswhere exactly is it claimed that red meat directly CAUSES cancer? you won't answer the very simple and direct question, why?
>>77150388No, don't reply... no such study exists and you're literally too stupid to know how to read and interpret scientific literature,and too stupid to understand the weaknesses with these types of studyyou have not changed mine or anyone else's mind - because you're genuinely dumb, impolite, unconvincing, and almost certainly autisticwhy don't you just fuck off?
>>77150299Yes, you're still not denying you pay kikes for chemically injected cancer meat and it's hilarious.
>>77150388>>77150422Verbatim fallacy is when someone asks for a specific word-for-word statement and if nothing says it, somehow that means they've proven something. But that's retarded and here's why. There is no study out there that verbatim says "Shoving a pestle through eyesocket is harmful to your health." But we know that already without a study saying that verbatim. When there's countless studies that point to red meat causing cancer, but you deny all of it because you want a verbatim statement, you're just being dishonest on purpose. Or you genuinely are just retarded.It's not a word salad just because you lack reading comprehension.
>>77150454No, you moronic trollwhere's your study that shows the causal link -share one or go fuck yourselfand don't spout off about fallacious reasoning when you can't even understand that correlation does not imply causation
>"muh X causes cancer" thread no.82958Fuck off already holy shitYou are not going to convince 99.9% of anons here to stop eating or doing whatever they are already doing so give it a goddamn rest
>>77149002>erm actually the red meat that gave us our massive brains is badOkay shlomo
>>77148955Everything causes cancer eventually. Just eat a reasonable amount of clean food, work out, and enjoy life.
>>77148955Without controlling for the quality of the meat, this is fucking worthless.
>>77149123Why did Stalin steal Hitler testicle
>>77149114You can barely type coherent English you retarded kike. You know what really causes cancer? Having your cock mutilated and a rabbi suck the blood out of it you brown jew faggot.
>>77150532The links are in the OP already. The only reason you deny the studies are because they don't verbatim say "it is guaranteed that red meat causes cancer". Even though with so many studies from all over the globe, throughout many decades, all pointing to red meat causing cancer, it's a reasonable conclusion. Again, verbatim fallacy. There's adequate reasoning to say beef is cancerous and you have yet to provide anything that debunks that other than personal anecdotes.
>>77148955Beef deez nutz nigga lmaoooooo
>>77151303>oral sucktion circumcisionI... I honestly thought this was an exaggeration, not a real thing.My god, jews are even more disgusting than I believed.
>>77148955>(((science)))
>>77151429Exercise isnt healthy, we know this already
>>77151429>Too much exercise can kill youAre you implying that's wrong tho?
>>77148955I'm a huge gay retarded faggot who doesn't even lift, and I believe this to be true.
>>77151521It literally isn't wrong. The 7.5 hour per week "doubled heart disease risk" figure is highly dubious from only one study with replication issues, but overtraining and being sedentary both cause wide-ranging health problems.
>>77151307>The links are in the OP already.>they don't say "it is guaranteed that red meat causes cancer".>but it's a reasonable conclusion.Not him but you're done here. YOu claim beef causes cancer because you misinterpret studies, basically. Well, I guess that's what brainlets do. Just don't be butthurt when you are called out on it.
>>77148955Oh my, that's pretty worrying, better stop eating red meat. At least the COVID vax is still safe and effective! Gonna get me another booster.
>>77151569>not himYou are a literal drooling retard
>>77148955tastes good asf so who cares
>>77148955My thoughts are that I dont careKill all shitlibsEnslave all women
>>77151765>tastes good asf so who cares
>>77148955from second link in OP:>Diet was assessed by validated food frequency questionnairesAKA they asked some normie retards that eat all kinds of slop what foods they atekeep in mind the average normie that limits red meat consumption is probably more health conscious than the fat retard that guzzles cheeseburgers dailyget back to me when you have a real study, done on prisoners that aren't able to 'report' on what foods they ateAlso, find a study that doesn't lump proper red meat (quality beef) with dogshit nitrate filled pork or other slop meats
>>77152079Yeah, you're right. There couldn't be any potential issue with doing this on prisoners. It's not like they're under any kind of additional stress or restricted from sunlight or exercise or any other factors that could possibly influence the results
>>77148955>>77149160Wow a food frequency questionnaire! Now this is real science!>>77151307>The links are in the OP already.Get a load of this fucking retard.
>>77152084of course there would be issues with a prisoner study. But at least the quantities and foods in each prisoner's diet would be exact (assuming they are not allowed to trade food or purchase commissary) rather than being subject to some retarded normie's ability to remember what he ate last week. The red meat studies fail because obese morons that eat hot dogs and cheap deli meat get lumped in with /fit niggas that eat grass fed beef/abstain from nitrate filled slop. There is a huge distinction between the two. Enjoy your deficiency in minerals and B vitamins
I would be more inclined to pay attention to this if it wasn't for the rash of studies popping up at the same time as there is a global push to get us off meat and onto bugs and other delightful stuff.Same shit every bloody time.
>>77148955>>77148963>>77148967>daily intakeJust fuck off, you doomposting and contrarian faggots. Nobody should eat the same shit every single day to begin with. Have some fish or lentils every other day and you're fine. I love meat but acting like eating something everyday is a good thing is beyond retarded. No wonder people think poorly of people who go to the gym
>>77152383stop eating everything except water and you wont have cancer then, oh wait you still might
>>77152383Why would eating something daily be baf you're just spewing retarded dogma
>>77149881My own personal life experience is far more valuable and relevant to me than any (((study))) I've ever read.
>>77148955>more correlational studies where every is allowed to live a normal live with thousands of confounding variables
