Dont wanna hear from any high school athletes who got a bit sad in college wah wah, 6 foot 2 norwood 0 motherfuckers. I want to hear from sub 5 9 losers like me who have never been good looking and have a shit hairline. If youre in your mid-late twenties is there even any point to trying? I've got arms like a troon on estrogen, 270lbs at not even 5 11 AND I am basically on my last chance before I get loads of health problems. Its simply this, I want to lose weight but will it be enough? People say "get your diet in order, go running, lift heavy and quit masturbating" but surely doing all that at once doesnt work and will lead to burnout? I know it has for me loads of times.I just want to lose this weight so I can spend what I have left of my twenties thin and happy. Even if I still resemble a balding twink in the process. Havent got an ounce of testosterone in me and I wont touch steroids so yeah.
>>77149355listen, faggot. my life improved when i stopped being a little bitch and started doing rather than saying. so shut up little bitch. BOOM!>t.5'8 NEET that went back to school at 25 and is in med school currently with a 9/10 wife and a nice house
Start doing this.
>>77149369Works in reverse too>smaller than you = DYEL>poorer than you = brokie>dumber than you = retard>looks worse = incel
>haven’t got an ounce of test on me and I won’t touch steroids so yeah>I’m late to my job interview, it’s in 10 minutes. Friend offered to pick me up but not getting in a car so yeahYou played yourself. Fuck off
>>77149382LMAO WHAT A FUCKING SELF-SABOTAGING MORON! KEK!!!
>>77149355I am 5'5" and have been Norwood 7 since highschool
>>77149355I don’t have an epic motivational story but please don’t let yourself get above 300 like I did pounds you will go full fucking diabetic and ruin your life forever
>>77149386...based
>>77149355There's a dedicated general for fat loss, it's called /fat/. The "arms like a troon" comment makes me assume you're the same guy who posted the thread about wanting veiny arms. You need to get lean to see veins and you need to lift weights to make the veins big. Cardio also helps. As for whether it's worth it, that's up to you. It doesn't matter if I tell you it's worth it (it is, btw), because what I value is different from what you value.
>>77149355lmao I'm 6'2, in decent shape, handsome, and a complete neet. I refuse to share my gifts with the normalfags out there
>>77149355I haven't been that short since high school but I did get kind of bald when I fell for min as monotherapy and was almost that heavy briefly over covid lockdowns. It was pretty easy to lose with moderate running and lifting.
>>77149355Well anon. What's your goal? Women? Because if women is your goal you just need to lose some weight and charismamaxx. I know /fit/ hates hearing this shit, but charismaxxing while not looking like shrek goes a long way. You really don't have to be a fucking chad to slay pussy.>t. 5'9 fat balding 35 year old with two baby mamas, who's now in a stable and happy relationship with a beautiful gfAnd no, I don't have money. I'm a brokie.
>>77149400>2 baby mamas and a girlfriendlol you are such a fuck up kek. that's gonna come back to bite you in the ass, lil gup.
>>77149400>Deadbeat dad giving advice.
At 39 I hit rock bottom. Was fat, had weird health problems, black out drunk literally every single night, ended up in jail for flying my truck to Domino's to try and punch the glass out of the door because they didn't leave my food at my door when I passed out. No contact delivery, I said. Had to quit drinking, Eating shit and living off transmuted pain and hatred, self pity. Had to replace the hole in me I filled with drinking with something just as huge and monstrously addicting, turned to insane amounts of exercise. Three years later and I've lost 60 pounds and am now putting on muscle weight. No more back pains, headaches, chest pains. Working out makes me like myself and is something I can control. Managing anger has been an adventure. I still have problems but my life has significantly improved from where it was even 10 years ago. It's true what they say about being motivated by hope and love and not anger. My two cents. WAGMI. Everyone already knows I'm a stupid Nazi faggot so have fun w my pic of me being happy and old
>>77149403I don't disagree that I am a big fuck up. However, because I am not a lil bitch about it, it hasn't and will not bite me in the ass. 7 years healthy co-parenting relationship with both mothers. >>77149404Exactly why you should listen to me.
>>77149408That shirt on the door looked like a penis at first glance
>>77149408Anon, we'd make good friends if we ever met irl
>>77149403that guys 35 wwith two baby mamas and a girlfriend, hes a fuck up. how big of a fuck up am i, being a 34 year old kissless virgin? bigger fuckup than him?
>>77149409>it hasn't and will not bite me in the ass.>Man's last words before it bit him in the ass
>>77149412Keep your head up, cousin. We are here for a good reason
>>77149408i sure hope your life gets better and im glad it already has, but i wish you more. also whats up with stupid nazi faggot?
>>77149408would've said "based!" but you're a racist and i'm black so we can never get along...so, CRINGE!
>>77149416Stupid to post my face, Nazi to say mean things about US politics openly, and faggot because I like guys. I know who I am, I guess is all I'm saying. I'm not actually a Nazi
>>77149420based, godspeed dude
>>77149416>>77149416and thank you. There's a lot of love out there, there are billions of people in the world and some of us are here talking about real things w one another. I love you guys>>77149421Thanks, man
>>77149417I just mean it wouldn't embarrass me for people to find out I post on 4chan. That and I hate the government. I love you too bro
>>77149369>>77149375Based
>>77149355i am 23yo 5'7.5 norwood 3.5 white blue eyes lifelong virgin in great shapeama
>>77149408Yeah yeah that’s great and all but in that photo you’re over 6ft, stop trying to relate to manlets and fuck off nazi
>>77149367listen man if you could stop posting this video of a minor that'd be huge, it's up to us adults to protect the children
>>77149367What are you doing on 4chan then?
>>77149382I dont want to do steroids?
>>77149367>i went to le SKOOL>i got a bug/spic wife that will divorce rape me and take my bug kidsuhh gratz?
>>77149397Fuck you
>>77149453Why do you bother?
>>77149355Why don't your go back to your shitskin country thirdie? It should be obvious to you you'll never be happy in the west.
>>77149355im 6'1 comfy neet and I like my life without bitches nagging and having to provide emotional laborim chudmaxxing now bros
>>77149375not retarded if your brain is bigger than your balls
>>77149355Yes, anon. I'm 5'9, 34yo, skinny fat, with a wife and child and i have money. I've only recently realized i made it a while back. THIS place and social media is what's keeping you from making it. Stop worrying about what others think or do. Just be yourself, that advice is literally the best.>hi, anon, do you have an instagram?>i don't use social media because i couldn't care less what others do. Wanna go out for a coffee, i know this placeIt's literally that easy.4chang is a self esteem destroyer, i only come here for banter nowadays. I spend my day doing anything other than reading or listening to what normies think: i play with my son, i watch youtube inventor videos, i go to judo, i lift at home in my basement, i watch old tv shows that don't lecture me about niggers or jews, i read, i do whatever i want just as long as it's not what's expected of me.At work i annoy my coworkers with whatever my opinion is about a subject without caring what they think, and people actually apreciate me for standing for what i believe. Be kind, but no excesive.Be meek, but when people shove you become cruel."Anon, you're short", yeah, "but you're fat and your head is too big, you look like a mongol" "that was uncalled for" "so was what you said" and just stand your fucking ground.Force your friends to get bykes, force your friend to go out and play biliards. Drink in moderation if that's what you need to talk. Tl;dr if you feel inadequate in any way, quit any social media where you see normies opinions and life improves.P.s. no one is sincere, they always exagerate and boast, despite every single fucking one of them has the same boring life as you do.Hope it helps, i'm done shitting, i'm leaving my phone in the bathroom and won't reply today as 10 minutes is enough 4chain for me.
I posted this in another thread. I'm 174cm. Abseloutely doable. Don't let 4chan corrupt your brain. You have no idea how much I look down on the losers here who give up. I am 31 now. I was a virgin loser at 27 without ANY friends or career prospects. I have faced doom.I would go months without changing my underwear. I was such lazy piece of shit.At 27 I lost my shit and decided to change. I moved to the city, forced myself to go on dates, did 300cold approaches. I got 25lays and my first relationship out of it. I went through repeated embarrassment and awkwardness. I had porn induced ED in ALL my lays. Girl after girl would leave with visible disgust at my performance.Now I'm 31, the relationship ended, but damn it was sweet to finally have someone give a shit about me. In my 30th birthday my GF bought a special cake, gave me a wonderful speech and gave me jewelry. I cried.Now I'm 31, it didn't work out with her.But that's okey. I'm as ambitious as ever. Think I will just stay in my lane and "accept" my lot? Think I will just settle? I refuse. I abseloutely refuse. I will do anything to get what I want. Did you think I will just sit on the sidelane and watch other men get what I want? How amusing. I abseloutely refuse to lose. Currently 4 months without masturbating to porn while sober. My drive is awakening. My hunger is growing. I will reach my goals, no matter what it takes.The only power in this world that can stop me is almighty God. What people say have no effect on me. Zero. I spit on your negativity. My pride is growing into something unstoppable.I will make the dreams of my 15yr old self true. I will get everything he wanted. If he saw me, he would marvel at who he became. I dare anyone to try and stop me.
>>77149872>his entire life revolves around women
>>77149409I know you're just LARPing, but can you tell me about your kids?How are they doing? Are they lonely self isolating incels like everyone on this board?
>>77149872Based sub 5 almost making it
>>77149872Very based post anon, doomer incels absolutely btfo and eternally seething. Id hate incels more if they didnt already do all the work by hating themselves for me.
>>77149355This you on the left? No one is coming to save you. You can’t your life if you don’t change your behavior. That an irrefutable fact.Is it worth it? You are fucking miserable and unhappy now! at the very least you’ll be miserable and unhappy and fit. Isn’t that better? If you don’t agree that it is, there is no hope and you should move to Canada for their health solutions
>>77149355Hey OP, there's a few success stories in the thread already but as someone who was in your shoes 5-6 years ago here's my advice.Stop being a pussy and just do what you KNOW you need to do. Maybe losing weight is enough for some, maybe others need to do more, none of that matters to you. You're different than everyone else and no one is going to be able to answer your question, because your life is different than ours.You have two choices. One, do what you already fucking KNOW you need to do, and find out for yourself if it's enough. Two, don't do what you need to do and suffer the rest of your days wondering "If I just did x everything could've been so much better."Make the right choice, and make it quick.
>>77149355Lose the weight, get in good shape, make decent money, enjoy your family and friends, do the things you love. Find and do the things that make life worth suffering through. You can't afford to wait any longer to start living anon.
>>77149355Yes. 360'd and walked away
>>77149367how do you afford med school + house + wife at the same time? What do you do?
>>77149355was a uni drop out/neet until 27. turned my life around by applying for a job. I wish I there was more to say but thats about it. get a job, earn money.
>>77149872Based! I'm 28 and have a decent job but have no remaining friends and am a virgin. Got any advice on social gains?
>>77151060listen what others have to say, remember and later, start talking about thateg coworker mentions he/she likes movie x next time you talk youcanbring it up or something related like: i watched y, didnt know actor from x could Play that role so wellnot the best example but i hope u get what i meangl friend
>>77151060Go to winnerwith.inMake an account. Lurk. Make your log. Do what they say. That's all. That forum changed my life. It was under a different name before though and I no longer post there.
>>77149502Is that a gantz reference?
>>77149355I didn't have sex until 25 but I'm also 6'3" and a NW 1.5-2
>>77149367This. I always had potential but i was a fucking bitch who was always licking his own wounds instead of taking action. I took for granted having attention from mid women and mediocre grades at school while looking like shit and dont even trying to outperform at anything, yet, i still was complaning about how unlucky i was and how bad everyone treated me. I realised everyone around me was fucking retarded and i started reading, watching, learning, listening, taking my own decisions and improving myself. Every little step you take has a consequence, it can be good or bad, try for it to be for the better. Set small goals, achieve them, and acummulate them to achieve greater goals. Stop playing fucking videogames and watching chink doll cartoons and live your own life, level the fuck up, and above of everything else STOP CARING ABOUT FAILURE OR WHAT THE OTHER THINK ABOUT YOU. You are the fucking main character of your life. You attract what you project. If you feel miserable you will only attract misery. Im assuming your main point of feeling miserable is not attracting women and not getting men to respect you, thats because you didnt achieve shit to be respected for. You are unappealing, you are boring, you dont look good. There are your problems, fix them instead of crying on a indian butterfly selective breeding forum, you gay ass motherfucking faggot.>t. 5'7" chad
>>77149355The point of losing weight is to take enough load off of your body so that you can actually be active. If you were like 350+ pounds then yeah, cut food.The problem with cutting food is that your body burns muscle faster than it burns fat, so going on a pure cut will end with you looking wasted and emaciated. What you want to do, as soon as you're able to, is strength training. Essentially you build muscle, which burns fat as your body repairs your muscles, and increases your basal metabolic rate so you burn more while you're at rest. If you keep pushing this, you'll end up building your body without really changing your diet, instead of emaciating it with a hard cut. You'll find yourself feeling more capable, both physically and mentally. You'll find your weight starts to matter less, though at the same time you will also be slowly losing it and keeping it off.The biggest hurdle honestly is getting started and making it a habit. Personally, I didn't really know how to use a gym, so I signed up for a training class nearby. Honestly I'd really recommend this if you're new, since you can really easily hurt yourself with improper form (ask me how I know).>get your diet in order, go running, lift heavyFocus on protein, you'll need it. Running is optional, see above. Don't ego lift, you'll hurt yourself, see above. > and quit masturbatingMasturbation is healthy unless you're like addicted to it or something. If you're like losing sleep and missing out on life because you're jerkin it, then yeah stop that shit. If you're going at it a normal amount then cutting to zero won't really make a difference.>Havent got an ounce of testosterone in meUnless you've been diagnosed with a deficiency, yes you do.
>>77149355I fixed my sleep and everything else went uphill from there. Also went from 5'9" to 5'12" from fixing my posture and neck hump.
I'm so jealous of people who make it to a late age, like 30s, as a complete loser and mange to turn things around. I am one of these said losers. 34 years old and I've been a failure for my entire life because I have never tried at anything. It isn't like I became a drug addict, or alcoholic, or became homeless, was abused, literally nothing like this that might be used as an excuse. I've just never done anything. Nothing sexually or romantically. Nothing socially with friends. Nothing to build a career. Nothing to create a life worth living. Most people here could look at my life and ask how a person who seemingly had nothing holding them back could allow them to end up like this. And rather than using this as motivation to fix myself, instead I just live in complete hopelessness. All I think about is how I've let myself do this. I think about how a "normal" person could just allow themselves to waste away and rot to this point. I look at the things people do to get into relationships or having sex and I say what's the point, I've gone 34 years without one, no one would ever want me. I look at how I really don't have any friends outside of acquaintances I do a few hobbies with and say I have nothing to offer to people, so why try. I look at all the people with good jobs and I say I've lost the most important career building years of my life, now I'm old, and there's no point. My parents are getting older, they will be dead in 10-15 years, I've barely had a relationship with them, why start now. All I think about is how I have wasted my life and I just don't see a point to anything.
Eat right, move a lot, pump iron, jerk off without watching porn, listen to uplifting music and watch action movies.
>>77151470I've always held the motion a lot of you people suffer so much because you are litterly retarded. Like incredibly stupid in your brain. Social skills, women, work etc, can all be fixed with training, but how do you fix this kind of retardation? That's a big one. When a person is so incredibly stupid they can't see it themselves. For example:>Wasted my lifeBitch you are 34. Even by today's standard, you can LIVE 50 more years.You have so much time to fix your problems. But you won't. Because your not only incredibly stupid, but also a coward.
>>77151403Very based post anon.
>>77151489Simple but based too. It's incredible what happens to a man when he removes porn from his life. Seeing these chicks IRL is just insane.
>>77149355i had a friend who was shorter than you, chubby unaesthetic and he completely turned it around, became fit, hair is great, married and a good career and his own house. not bullshitting it is really possible if you do the work. you just have to DO something. the more you think the more time you lose and it comes too late.
>>77151470Then stop bro you know what's wrong just fix it. I'm 34 and in a good spot, I just need to fix my fitness and diet. Long story short - Had heart valve infection that took me down hard and I haven't been able to fix it. But I am making changes to get back where I was. It's never too late, and by coping you will never get anywhere. I bought a sporty car and ready to enjoy my bachelor life on top of it
>>77149355>Any chuds here turn their life around?not a chud per sebut turned my life really around right before getting 26>I want to hear from sub 5 9 losers like me who have never been good looking and have a shit hairline.i'm really tall, like >99,9% tallbut been norwood 4-5 with 20 and and norwood 7 with 25>Its simply this, I want to lose weight but will it be enough? People say "get your diet in order, go running, lift heavy and quit masturbating" >but surely doing all that at once doesnt work and will lead to burnout?no, it's really that easy (as a first step)you don't get burned out, because it's not stress inducing>so I can spend what I have left of my twenties thin and happytoo late for this, maybe the last 1-2y of your 20sbut you'll spend your 30s, 40s, 50s and so on thin and happy>Havent got an ounce of testosterone in metest will naturally improve by A LOT with a few simple improvementsworking out, eating well, sleeping enough, getting sunlight etc.and if you're medically low, you get trt prescribedit won't be steroid doses, just normalizationcont.
>>77151419I have to reply to this because unfortunately I know it not to be the case. Quitting jerkin it yea I agree but I have already tried the strength training bullshit and it didn't change anything. I have a bench downstairs and I did 4 days a week working out lifting, I had a program and I was very consistent from literally this time last year to july 2025 until the heatwave in the UK fucked me up.I hated it by the end, no energy and I felt like shit even though after the workout I did feel good about myself. There was quite literally no difference in my body shape at all and I felt like I didnt gain any muscle whatsoever.I could barely bench 50kg for more than 4 reps as well. So listen to me when I say that I am not exactly motivated to try again. I went from curling 5kg dumbells to 10kg and thats it. I hated it with a passion so yeah
>>77152023Stopped reading after "I'm really tall" non of your advice is worth reading because you already have a genetic gift that makes you desirable to women, kindly gtfo
>>77152023at one point you just need to realizenobody fucking cares about youget your shit together or die wasting oxygenwhat I did (in that order)>grow a beard and shaved baldyes you'll unironically look like a r*ddit soijack, especially if you were a skelly like me or fatbut that's an acceptable price compared to being perceived as 40s in your 20s and literally no chance in datingnot all women like it, but some do (1 in 5 for 20s and 2 in 5 in 30s if I had to guess) and that's enough to actual date>getting /fit/gives you self-respectactually makes you feel good / more energyobviously also helps immensely with dating>fixing bad habits and dietmy skin went from matching the 40s vibe to actually 20s in like half a yearalso I fixed most of the feeling depressed phases>moving to a nice apartment and furnishing itagain, helps with depressive episodes, doesn't make me want to vomit every time I fucking open my eyes>pick up hobbies OUTSIDE of your homegot into medieval stonemasonry, like really into it, joined a local club that restores a nearby castlethen started rowing, also joined a club (kinda necessary to start)it's really easy that way to socialize, because unless you're seriously repulsing you automatically get includedalso that order is important1. fix what you see in the mirror2. fix your mood when waking up3. fix everything else
>>77152030>you already have a genetic gift that makes you desirable to women, kindly gtfoyeah nomaybe you should've read literally 2 words furthertall stops being desirable once you're (significantly) over >200cm / 6'7not only that but you're cursed with bad fashion and for a life as dyel as wellalso outside of the US, height is not that relevantliterally never met a women in my country that said she only want men above X heightquite the contrary, got turned down multiple times because of my height as it was too tallbeing really short is probably worsebut the equivalent would be like being <150-160cm / 5'2? on the short side
>>77152048>>77152048lol LMAO even, I'm being given advice by a fucking giant about dating. You are a fool mate, a tall cunt who's had no hardship in his life about being physically assaulted. Hope wasting your time with all that advice was worth it because I aint buying.
>>77149355yes i turned my life around by becoming a chud. What did you post this for?Do you want us to tell you how to get a job?
>>77149355I was fat since I was 6, peaked at ~450lbs by age 15. Was a miserable fat depressed piece of shit in highschool and college with no friends. During COVID unemployment I decided things needed to change, I got down to 170lbs in 2.5 years by fasting, CICO and walking 5-10 miles per day. I started going to the gym about 16 months ago and had so little muscle mass I could barely bench the bar. Now I'm 12% bf at 195lbs (6' 3"), can do 200lbs x 10 reps, visible abs, etc.Now that I no longer uncontrollably shake from social interactions and don't look like a lard elemental, I've been going to meetup groups to be more social, have a couple of friend groups now, I get invites to house parties, and have some form of social thing going on multiple times a week where I leave the house. Still no bitches yet though. Every thing about my life changed drastically from losing weight and gaining muscle, just the way even a cashier at a store interacts with you is light years different. Its never too late anons.
>>77149355I'm not gonna give you a whole story butNofap changed my life from videogame incel into "making it" (i.e high paying job, fit, family)"Making it" comes with it's own problems though and sometimes you just want to be that loser fapping all day again
>>77152139based improover anon
>>77149382>steroids are just a free car ride from your bromore like he demands both of your testicles in exchange for the ridealso the job interview is for a wendys kitchen position in the hood paying min wage
>>77152313op doesn't sound like he had any balls in the first place, if for anyone then especially for low t people like him it would be useful
>>77152139"6 foot 3" fuck you
>>77152048>6'7
>>77149408>at 39 I hit rock bottomno shit unc, after 30 everyone's just waiting to die anyway, might as well go back to drinking and have some fun
>>77149408You were in the right about driving into that Dominoes btw dont ever let those bastards in the courts say otherwise
