So is there a consensus regarding seed oils and how they are possibly related to the increase in chronic diseases and especially obesity in prety much all developed nations?In a span of 100-50 years things like obesity, cancer and heart strokes went through the roof. I don't get why people don't sound the alarm yet. Can people even conceptualize statistics such as>40% of the US population is obese>1/3 of people die from cancer or some cardiovascular diseasewe are talking about hundreds of millions affected and it's probably not even their fault.And this is not a local occurence only, nations such as Japan (considered among the healthiest and most lean in the world) are also experiecing the same even if to a smaller degree. In Italy according to recent reports 40% of children are also obese. Those are staggering numbers and nobody seems to care about it.So what is going on exactly? The science is clear: omega6/omega3 (found in vegetable oils) is not dangerous to your health and it can actually contribute to lower cardiovascular risks among other things. There's literally a wikipedia page that essentially designates anyone who tries to question this as a right-leaning person (I'm not joking and this is retarded, what's up with this binary thinking that if you don't agree with X then you are part of Y group), but something definitely has changed because the numbers don't lie, a thousand-fold increase in the incidence of something is not made out of thin air.Other usual suspects:- Fast-food / Ultra-processed food and it's prevalence in the western diet- Air/water quality, no strict filtering regulations- People generally move less than before but that wouldn't explain a 40% obesity rate
>>77150029it's the salt retard
>>77150029>So is there a consensus regarding seed oilsYes. The scientific evidence-based consensus is that they're good for you. The meme consensus is that you should eat butter or some shit.
>>77150029>i don't get...I'd venture there are a lot of things you don't get
>>77150029sneed oils are the worst possible thing you can consume, in turn the government and retard boomers demonized all fats, animal fats are good for you. That is it thats the only real dietary advice i for sure would adhere to, sugar isn't particularly bad, carbs aren't particularly bad, can you over do it yes, but if you get rid of seed oils you will coincidentally get rid of EVERY junk food so make of that what you will, i also would limit high fructose corn syrup at the least its not that difficult to follow this i've found
I don't believe in science, I believe in good taste, I use variety of oils and I don't know what they're made of, if it tastes good, I eat it, life is too short to be a beta bitch with olive aftertaste in your mouth and knowing no other flavor.
>>77150029Science says gutter machinery oil good so they must be
>>77150029Even just one spoonful to cook some food is enough to offset any benefits from the food you ate after. They are that bad. The most unhealthy thing people consume by far
>>77150103You have nothing to back that up with
>>77150108And the only sources saying seed oils aren't bad were paid for by big pharma to make you sick and sell more drugs
bad because omega 3 counterbalance is low in most people's diets.
>>77150029Different seed oils have different levels of linoleic acid. While none should be consumed, Canola Oil would be the least bad one on that image.
>>77150029people are just overeating. you could get into some mechanistic biochemistry of what actually impacts your calories out but at the end of the day there's too many calories in. there's a reason we make saturated fat when we perform de novo lipogenesis, and these soils are all high in PUFA, but olive oil isn't bad and it's higher in PUFA than like butter, so I think that fails to capture the whole picture. you can probably also tie it to lack of nutrients. our biology is all fucked up due to our environment and diet.I would never bring seed oils into my house, but I don't freak out if I have to eat out somewhere, I just try to avoid things that are fried to minimize my exposure.
>>77150029Another ketolard spam thread
>>77150624How much is Pfizer paying you to shill?
>>77150810>low iq keto induced IQ retortExpected
>>77150029
>>77150833It's a bot paid for by the epstein fund, keto is a literal epstein psyop
>>77150833Says the guy posting retarded wojaks
they re all pretty bad.for cooking you should use ideally pig fat, butter or on low heat olive oil (olive oil imported form the only 2 regions on this planet that actually is going to be natural, authentic and original, extra virgin, unprocessed, cold-pressed, unfiltered olive oil from greece, 1 gallon about 150$). also you can boil things or bake things instead of frying.but all of this is more of an american than european problem, really
Are there any good oils i can use for high heat cooking? so far I've been using EVOO, but I heard if they are heated high they are bad for you, I also use this coconut oil, but it smokes alot
>>77151957butter oil
>>77150029>So is there a consensus regarding seed oils and how they are possibly related to the increase in chronic diseases and especially obesity in prety much all developed nations?you're comparing vastly different oils with each otheryou need to differentiate between Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratiosthere isn't really a consensus per se, but a few noteworthy things>in observational studies, people consuming poly and mono unsaturated fats are generally healthier than those consuming more saturated fats>most people get too little omega 3 and too much omega 6>too much omega 6 can have negative health implications based on actual experimental studies>too much added fat in general is bad for your health>fat from whole foods like Avocados, Seeds, Nuts etc. can't be over consumed, so doesn't carry any of the negative health effects from oilsgenerallyif the type of oil matters for your healthyou're probably consuming too much oil...obesity also has little to do with the type of oilbut with total calories and digestibilitymany foods today are just engineered for overconsumption and just happen to use seed oils because they're cheapthere's a "golden ratio" for sugar, salt, and fat to make it hyper palatable and maximize dopamine which basically all fast food / ultra-convenience food follows
I'm currently drinking 100g of delyssa evoo and eating about 115g of Kirkland natural peanut butter every night.It's extremely powerful for libido, testosterone and healthy fat levels.Boners are insane rn
>>77151957The only healthy things to use are tallow and ghee
>>77152228You're fat
>>77150035Salt is good, I get all my salt intake from sauerkraut as the good Austrian painter intended.
>>77150061I know need oils are poison because everyone mainstream says they're tasteless when they clearly taste like shit. It's immediately identifiable when somethings been fried in sneeds. Such a bizarre thing to lie about clearly poison.
>>77152082why no mention of rapeseed oil, it's the most used oil in EU at least
>>77150029During World War II, shortages of fossil fuels prompted the widespread use of vegetable oils as substitutes for paint thinners and engine lubricants. Countries like the US, China, Japan, Brazil, and India turned to oils such as rapeseed (early canola), tung, cottonseed, basedbean, and castor to fuel vehicles, lubricate warships and aircraft engines, and produce fuels like diesel and kerosene through cracking processes. Vegetable oils filled critical gaps in industrial needs. High-viscosity oils like castor powered jet and diesel engines, while rapeseed lubricated military hardware; glycerin from fats even greased guns and supported explosives production. After the war, surplus vegetable oils lost their industrial market as cheap petroleum returned. Producers, especially in Canada, bred low-erucic-acid rapeseed varieties—removing bitter, harmful compounds—to purify the oil to food-grade standards, rebranding it as "canola" (Canadian Oil, Low Acid) for cooking and consumer products.
>>77152440Sneed oil consumers are consuming "food grade" (just means high purity) engine lubricant and paint thinner.Also this>>77150898
>>77152370>why no mention of rapeseed oilit is thoughcanola = rapeseedtechnically canola is a variety of rapeseedbut it's the most widely, (somewhat) exclusively grown onecanola / rapeseed is actually one of the best / healthiest seed oilshas about a 2:1 omega 6 to 3 ratio and a reasonably high smoking pointway better than e.g. sunflower or soibean oilin the EU you mostly get the cold pressed, unfiltered variant (which is literally just seeds pressed)in the USA they overwhelmingly sell the chemical solved variant, which is missing all the plant secondary metabolism compounds
>>77150029>So is there a consensus regarding seed oilsYes, but the 4chan consensus differs from the scientific consensus, the latter being that seed oils are generally regarded as safe.>In a span of 100-50 years things like obesity, cancer and heart strokes went through the roof>So what is going on exactly?People are rightly noticing that a lot of things are going to shit, and don't really have the tools to analyze why. Some folks latch onto a single problem, like health outcomes, and attach it to a single cause, like seed oils, making up a conspiracy whose abolition will definitely solve everything.The truth though is that we're experiencing broader societal decay, and that our present economic strategies are unable to reverse or even stop this decay. We currently prioritize what is profitable, which has meant deepening the system of imperialism over the last 100 years, a system where we export capital and violence in order to have the rewards shipped safely to within our borders. This means exporting our very ability to survive; talent, industry, manufacturing... anything you'd call "outsourcing". What this leaves us as is a nation of highly profitable investors or service industry workers, who relies on the treats being shipped to us from the third world for survival. We don't know how to survive anymore.In the limit, this will end in so much expertise being shipped to the third world that they are able to resist our violence and end the export of treats back to us. We will be left with nothing but money and weapons, with no skills or industry for survival. Complete societal collapse of the first world. This is already starting to happen.So please stop focusing on this sneed oil bullshit. We need to learn how to be self-sufficient as a nation again.
>>77152499How can you trust the science on this when it is paid for by big pharma?
