>"red meat causes colon cancer">"high-fibre diets prevent colon cancer"Why were doctors and scientists allowed to lie for so many years?
>The most digestible thing to your stomach, literally tailored for it that humans have been consuming for millions of years can cause the most fatal condition known to man>The most indigestible non-toxic (arguably toxic) matter that you shit right through and gives a hard time to your gut microbiome and intestines is not only beneficial but also extends your life and prevents diseasesImagine believing this
>>77150334It’s not the fiber. It’s the ass fucking
>>77150345Probably true.
>>77150341besides colon and esophageal cancer vegetarians/vegans still seem to be better offand you don't even need the colon for survival
That headline still makes vegan sounds good due to the myriads of other cancer possibilities and for colon cancer it doesn't even clarify if the risk is higher or similar
>>77150334>>77150334>doctors and scientists lieBut the beef industry isn't? lmaoRed meat is consistently proven to cause cancer in so many studies at this point that it's insane. Don't take mine and anyone else's word for it, look up all the studies about red meat and cancer. And tell me how a random anon in a fitness board with bias towards animal protein is somehow more reliable than every single study ever made. And how the beef industry injecting cows with chemicals is somehow the good guy while doctors are evil. https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2024.1366553/full
>>77150357Yeah bro beef industry is truly more powerful than the trillion dollar medical industry!
>>77150357Then why does the beef only carnivore diet cure terminal cancer?
>>77150355They have a dozen carences. Just because you can survive on something doesn't mean it's beneficial or good or even neutral.
>>77150398>one is more powerful than another>therefore doctors and scientists are lying and we should trust people pumping chemicals in cows in factories and ignore all studies worldwide pointing to red meat causing cancerMaybe you should think before you type. That was very retarded.
meat smells like feces tho
>>77150355LDS vegans (the ones publishing all the "veganism good" studies) live longer than the average American but if you compare them to other middle class Whites instead of Dequantavious Jackson (BMI 47) and Miguel Jesus Ortiz de Santiago (BMI 102) they actually cut almost a decade off of their expected lifespan.
>>77150357Pictured, the "red meat" being studied.
>>77150334Humans are omnivores>>77150525non Hispanic Whites have a lower life expectancy than every demographic with the exception of American Indians, White men are the fattest demographic on earth, Hispanics generally with no differentiation by nationality live 8 years longer than non Hispanic Whites, non Hispanic White men in the USA have gone from the 3rd leanest demographic in 2009 to the 2nd fattest tied with Hispanic males and only exceeded by non Hispanic Black females>>77150544Median vegan BMI is 22.6 while the median "meat only" eater BMI is 30.0 but those "meat only" individuals are usually not, almost never actually, keto or carnivore types but fat middle aged and elderly Americans alongside rednecks and niggers who slurp down soda and candy like it's water
>>77150560>White men are the fattest demographic on earthSo we're just gonna make stuff up? Okay.Veganism is caused by a parasite. Vegetables are more than Sarin and VX put together. Inhaling the smell given off by broccoli causes diarrhea.
>>77150549You know damn well the people that regularly eat red meat are just eating low quality dairy cow burger meat.
>>77150334almost like 90% of science is junk.
>>77150334Eat meat and good fruits and vegetables and some nuts and dairy if you can tolerate it. It is truly the most optimal diet. Carnivore fags and Vegan fags will rot and die.
>>77150640The only thing rotting is the glyphosate soaked vegetables inside your intestines
>>77150560If we were omnivores, we would have a medium-sized caecum, like the chimpanzee or pig, and not the shriveled tiny one we have now.
>>77150471Covid era proved most doctors lie to keep their job, yes
>>77150334>You now remember that the benefits of vegetarianism are described in the Bible as giving better health results than a meat-rich dietWhy do carnivorefags act like this is a new thing
>>77150334>John Harvey Kellogg>Anti tobacco, alcohol, and caffeine>Hydrotherapy>Vegetarian of mostly whole grains and legumes>No dairy products>Yogurt enemas>Lived to 91>Follower Upton Sinclair lived to 90So was this nigga right?
>>77150642what about vegetables that aren't soaked in glyphosate, are those ok?
>>77150648those animals don't cook their food, which does pre-digestion for us.
>>77150689people live to over 100 smoking and/or drinking daily. anecdotes don't really mean much.but I think there's a very low floor of where you can have a diet that is good enough to not cause it to be the main factor in shortening your lifespan, and there are other things that are much more impactful, like having a reason to get up in the morning and belonging to a community.
>>77150334Meatys will see a headline that says VEGANS HAVE LOWER RISK OF MANY CANCERS, JUST NOT COLON CANCER and go "heh, looks like you actually have just as much risk as me"
>>77150648you actually believe we were not supposed to eat meat at all?
Oh, meatcucks, gagging on your blood soaked steak fantasies while your rotting guts revolt and your limp dicks wave the white flag. Us plant powered gods? Dominating existence. Die slow, you pathetic zombies!
>le cancer>le statisticsnigga you either get cancer or you don't regardless of how "careful" you are, so why fuss about it? Even the experts still barely know anything, also people always talk about increased or reduced risks without ever quantifying shit. Would you make a significant lifestyle change if it halved your likelyhood of getting a certain cancer from 0.02% to 0.01%? And anyway how much can you truly trust those numbers?You can avoid the red meat but then maybe there's something else in your diet that unbeknownst to you causes inflammation to your specific body, or maybe it'll be the microplastics in your balls that will get ya or the pollution in the air, or maybe that time you accidentally exposed yourself to asbestos as a kid when you played inside an abandoned building.Worrying about anything beyond what obviously and intuitively constitutes a healthy lifestyle (whole foods varied diet with no over/under-eating, good sleep, physical activity, spending time in nature, socializing, no drugs, a clean living space etc.) is useless paranoia, as far as you know your "solutions" might even be making things worse
widespread and easy access to unregulated information flows was a mistake. the average person is simply not prepared to deal with it, as evidenced by this thread and many others like it.
>>77151730The funny thing is how easy it is to get the right answer, just ask Grok/Gemini to answer the question and cite sources. The answer you get is that the link between processed/red meat and bowel cancer is certain, but the risk increase is minimal: if nobody ate red meat, 6/100 people would get bowel cancer. If everybody ate red meat, 7/100 people would. Still a substantial increase in the overall population, but your individual odds barely increase.And here's the funny thing: all these sources recommend limiting red meat. None argue you should eliminate it. 300 - 500g is still within the recommend guidelines. That's one steak and one hamburger each week. Just eat chicken or fish for the rest of the week (and limit processed slop, but that goes without saying).Room temperature IQ brainlets can outsource their thinking to AI yet refuse to do so.
>>77150525SDA you mean? I think the thing they don't make as much of a big deal out of is the don't smoke or drink and are encouraged to exercise. The whole foods diet thing is a bit of a LARP, those guys love their Morning Star bean burgers and PB&J sandwiches.
>>77150689>No dairy products>Yogurt enemas
>>77150689Isn't he the reason why Americans genitally mutilate their sons?
>>77151791Yes, he was also kicked out of the Adventists for being too schizo which takes some fucking doing lmao
>>77150341there is no evolutionary pressure from cancer though it's an old age disease
>>77150334most vegans dont actually eat a fiber-rich diet with tons of veggiesmy cousin and her husband became vegan and they both turned fat as shit, they eat tons of processes garbage full of sugar, seed oils, salt and chemicals
>>77150689cool anecdoteall four of my grandparents are over 90 and they eat a regular diet including meatnow what?
>>77150355>vegetarians/vegans still seem to be better offbecause they pay attention to their diet instead of just shoveling endless slop into their gulletnow compare them to non-vegans who pay attention to their diet.
>>77150334cause most vegans still eat a lot of oils and fat which slows gut motility. my idea of an optimal diet is something like scooby's. Low fat, moderate complex carbs and high protein
>>77150334It's the original service scam. Scramble the meta every now and then for no apparent reason to keep the fools paying you longer.
>>77150341Fibre helps remove toxic bile from your body. If you don't eat fibre the toxic bile gets reabsorbed and in the process can trigger cancer in the bowels by irritating the lining.
>>77150341>The most digestible thing to your stomach, literally tailored for it that humans have been consuming for millions of yearsFructose?
>>77151875fiber itself is a toxin.
>>77150334
>>77151875Wow thank god you and some snarky jew discovered this. Imagine what wouldve happened if you didnt, we wouldve been poisoned like every bipedal hypercarnivorous mammal in the past 100 million years and DIED without psyllium husk.
Both of these things can be (and are) true.
>>77150334>control for actual food consumed>suddenly whole food plant based diets have SIGNIFICANTLY lower CRC rates than general populationnext questionalso the cancer rate increases for meat are mostly statistically relevant but not that sensationallike that >>77151767 anon saidin terms of healthspana whole foods plant based diet is still bestbut the difference from a whole foods diet with meat, even read meat is not that big
>>77150355All these sort of demographic dietary studies are next to useless because there are too many confounding variables. For instance, when you do something like compare "vegan" to "non vegan", you're comparing a group that goes out of their way to define a strict diet vs the overall population of unwashed masses. The difference is mindfulness. The vegan is more likely to be mindful of what they eat because they are specifically people who care about what they eat. Meanwhile in the "non-vegan" category, you could be talking about someone who eats a very clean and healthy omnivorous diet, or you could be talking about Billy Bob and Jaquarius who just shovel down mcdonalds and KFC all day every day.
>>77150334The "RED MEAT BAD" study NEVER mentioned whole beef or lambIt was a study about homogenized meats that's been misrepresented since it hit the news
>>77150689>Don't smoke >Stay regular >Don't get fat>Live to 90+That's pretty basic shit idk
>>77150689What is a yogurt enema?And is that the goated socialist writer Upton Sinclair? If you read the Jungle you know why he was a vegan tho. FDA was basically created because of the shit he described in the book.
>>77151330>>77151538>Meatys>MeatcucksI've only ever heard fags say shit like that idk
>>77152167I could call you a faggot if that makes you feel better?
>>77150544Fucking kek
>>77152167They call them meatys because vegan femboys love big meaty carnivore cocks. It also provides them with some of the minerals and nutrients they lack when i shoot my thick healthy fertile seed down their throat
>>77150560Humans are hypercanivorous, omnivores like bears can survive on plants AND be healthy since they can process grass fine.
>>77150334>eats seed, leaves and other seed slime sludge slop that is heavily doused in products that say they cause cancer on the packaging>wonder why they get cancerscience baffled, science save us
>>77150689>hehe look at this anecdote
>>77152218slave goy sneed feed gruel sludge slop slime
>>77150399Most cancer cells can only consume sugar, not ketones, for some reason. This means a 100% ketogenic diet (of which a carnivore diet is) starves out most cancers.
>>77152810Kek, alright buddy the entire medical field missed that you can just cure most cancers with a keto diet no wonder they call you the ketoschizo
>>77152843https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33274644/It's actually real. Most people just can't stick to a ketogenic diet, even to save their lives.
>>77152223I dont disagree, but ketotards while talk about some faggot on trt being proof that carnivore diet is goated
>>77152888>didn't even read it award
Not a single vegan ITT will ever post body
