Is flat or dumbell better
>>77152986Fuck off mongrel retard
obviously a flat. you can't live in a dumbbell. fucking idiot.
>>77152986Pulldown from full outstretch of arm/shoulder overhead in internal rotation & protraction, exactly like lead climbing reach or volleyball spike, just the beginning od that motion, lean back, flex abs - will disengage lats to the fullestBench will give you deformed short stiff pecs and injured traps and rhomboids that will roll shoulders and lock thoracic in permanent flexion
>>77152986Barbell Idk why you said flat instead of barbell since thats the alternative Like wtfYou're probably too retarded to make gains on either lmaoooo
>>77153015>rm/shoulder overhead in internal rotation & protraction, exactly like lead climbing reach or volleyball spike, just the beginning od that motion, lean back, flex abs - will disengage lats to the fullest>Bench will give you deformed short stiff pecs and injured traps and rhomboids that will roll shoulders and lock thoracic in permanent flexionInsert shirtles Magnus mitbo picture or ANY vollybal spiker - there are no pecless volleyball attackers