1 year completely off steroids and trt after 8 years blasting and "cruising" (on 250-500mg test). Currently sitting at 5'10, 205lbs/93kg on a cut (down from 220 in October). It took about 3 months for my testosterone level and sperm count to go back to normal. I can still bench 350lbs (down from benching in the 400s), but I had a 1400 powerlifting total as a natty, so that's normal, I guess. I'm debating whether I should go back on gear. Thoughts?
Roided pic for comparison.
>>77159905Well why did you get off it in the first place? Was there a reason?
>>77159905look closer to a normal person here>>77159908caricature-esque. stay off the sauce to be a normal healthy human being
>>77159927To get the wife pregnant.>>77159929I guess. I feel dyel though.
>>77159908you look like a boiled prawn
>>77159905>>77159908Nobody cares you vain moron. You look like a fucking manlet anyway, so what's even the point.
>>77159944Hey, faggot. I thought I was on the fitness board. Sorry I got your incel thread archived.
>>77159946Honestly dude just stay off at this point. You've kept good mass 1 year off it so find new goals and stay healthy for your kid (you did creampie your woman enough to knock her up right?). Honestly, as a father, your entire life will change when that kid shows up and you can put your energy into them amd just maintain for a bit.
>>77159955Yeah, that was my reasoning, but I feel super insecure now.
>>77159946You sound like an asshole too moron, anyway you look like shit you pathetic manlet
>>77159998Uh huh, but you won't post your own physique, will ya bitch?
You look healthier now
>>77159908Bro you looked so bad on roids. stay natty your proportions are way more aesthetic. you genuinely look good in the OP
>>77159905Damn, nigger. You really kept them gainz. Not gonna advise you anything, just wanted to say this is impressive
>>77159905Blastbro?
>>77159908AwfulI don’t understand how you can’t see this yourself that you look like shit on roids
>>77159905>>77159908and it's all bullshit :D cause the "size" was never real :D
>>77159908>grapes for testies >years off your life>bones that don't match the muscleRoid Tranny
>>77160617>>grapes for testies>>years off your life>>bones that don't match the muscle>Roid Trannyand it was all a lie>>77160572and you're forever crippled cause healthy ballsack is EESENTIAL for male health
>>77159905thats still really good. id stay off gear and keep progressing natty
>>77160572Batista somehow turning from that douche with tribal tats into an old black woman will never not baffle me
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>>77159932Nah man you look good. Get out of the roid game while you can. You know those movies where the guy says “just one last job” then dies?
>>77159961You need to overcome your insecurity, do it for your future kid. It will bring many benefits including more confidence and not ACK-ing early.
>>77159905You already decided. Once on steroids, always on steroids
What you failed to produce here, is a picture of your balls. A little ballsack is pathetic. I don't think I'll ever understand a man intentionally castrating himself for any reason. Stop being retarded, OP.
>>77161334>You already decided. Once on steroids, always on steroidsthat's true of course - ballsack is a gonner, he's a cripple, that hypothetical human cause it's bullshit, fake, a lie, no u're not gonna just transform into a bit softer hulk with better skin hopping off lol >>77160650>and it was all a lie>>77160572>and it's all bullshit :D>cause the "size" was never real :Dhowever ACTUAL trt is much healthier isn't it bot ? will get one to normal weight and diminish the side effects greatly >hurr durr, but he aint gonna be superhuman anymore nor feel like one he's a cripple bot, he is already gravely injured, for life, time to face the reality, the moment he pinned for the first time (dude doesn't exist i remind you) was the moment he sustained that terrible wound
>>77159905Stay off.Why are you wearing shoes inside on the carpet btw?
>>77159908You look fucking grotesque here, dont get back to using it dude, be a fucking normal attractive person and not a goofy cartoon character
>>77159908No offense, but you look like you have to ask someone to get stuff off tall shelves for you.
>>77159946>inceloh this is a woman for sure
>>77161651>t.
>>77159905How did you not destroy your nuts? I'd assume you're still on trt.
>>77160617>>77160650>>77161334>>77161651>>77161346>>77161688Where does this fucking nonsense come from? It shuts you down while you are on it. Your balls will atrophy a but just like you would lose muscle if you stopped lifting. Once you come off things start back up again. Permanent issues can come if you are blasting whatever you can get your hands on for a decade or if you are doing it during puberty.Doing two or three test only cycles with a break between each one will be fine long term so long as you are not a genelet.
>>77161724uahahahha lies >>77160572>>77160650>>77161651
>>77161730>people who stop eating lose weight No fucking shit. You will keep most of the muscle you put on if you eat at maintenance and lift. Rock clearly got told your heart cannot support your mass, lose weight.
>>77159908you look good, but this could be a physique a natty have with a pump. honestly if that's the body you wanna have (and it's a good body) you don't need to roid man
>>77161688No, it's genetic. Some people are shut down forever even from just trt, while others bounce back in no time. My balls never shrank when I roided. Same with sperm count. It was 38 million on roids and 175 million after 3 months of PCT.
>>77159905>>77159908>>77159908Are you really 5'10? Or American 5'10 aka in reality 5'7 + shoes.
>>77161327>>77161060>>77161205>>77160540>>77160504Noted. I gotta work on my psyche.>>77160617>>77160650>>77161346Sorry lads, but I never went bald, I never had acne and my nuts never shrank. My natty test levels are currently around 600 ng/dl, which is perfectly normal and healthy for a middle-aged man like me. Never had high bp or any other issues. Robust health runs in my family. That's why I did it as long as I did and only stopped to make a kid.>>77161653Those are flip flops.
>>77161740Yes. I have a long torso and short legs which makes my proportions look wonky in pics.
>>77161736>didn't go nuts on test and tren You are lucky. The genetics are you have a high baseline and didn't alter it much at all and your liver can handle it. If you did go nuts you'd be me olympia.
>>77161747Then that's a very good physique.
>>77161742Sandals are shoes anon...Why are you wearing your flip flops inside on your carpet?
>>77159932Why not IVF ?
>>77161764I've gone as high as 1000mg of test and 300mg tren + orals when I was in my 20s. I can't pretend I've been conservative. The pic I posted was something like 500/200 test/tren IIRC.>>77161765Thanks. I feel dyel desu, but I guess I have to deprogram myself.>>77161769Do you walk barefoot in your house? I use slippers when it's cold and flip flops when it's warm.
>>77161777Why not just creampie my wife instead? Besides, roids can either make you flat out sterile, or dramatically reduce the sperm count and sperm quality, which is what happened with me. IVF doesn't magically fix that.
>>77161678Doing God's work. Fuck that schizo retard how is he not banned?
>>77159905You will lose everything over the next 3 years
>>77162002Cope. My test levels are back to normal and I'm making slight gains while on a slow cut.
>>77159905Spiritually permadyel and tranny dysmorphic
>>77160075OP youll always be bottom barrel zeek. You're a roidtroon, so none of your gains count
>>77162224>>77162225I trained for several years and had a 1400 powerlifting total completely natty, copemasters.
>>77162313Sure you did tranny hahaha. Roid troons are insecure liars by nature. Sorry you're upset at the realization that nothing youve done is impressive!
>>77162323Circa 2015. Completely natty. Seethe more, zoomie.
>>77162313congrats on the strength of a teenager i guess
>>77162331>I-I was natty see!! See!!! Roidtranny so mad hahahaha. It took less than 2 seconds to make you spiral. Trooners are the most insecure dorks on the planet holy shit
>>77159905Haha look at the faggot arm band
>>77162337lmao
>>77159946Based.
>>77162331Other anon is right. Roiders all lie, tell half truths, over embellish or exaggerate. The lack of self confidence makes people like you totally untrustworthy. The chances of you being natty even here are slim to none.
>>77162331If you looked like this natty you had no reason to roid. so you're either a retard or a liar.
>hey guys I'm totally insecure which is why I got into the male to male tranny pipeline>look here's pics of me on roids (less than before) and one where I was blasting it out of my mind>I'm gonna be fine, right guys? Tell me I'll be fine, let's ignore years of my life gone, my small balls and my face growing from all the roids which will never turn back to normalnani the fuck
>>77162335>you took 5 seconds to upload an image proving me wrong? u mad!>>77162350>>77162354If I wanted to lie, I wouldn't have said I was roiding in the first place.>If you looked like this natty you had no reason to roidExcept the most obvious one - competing in sports. Also, I'm vain.
I'd recommend against it for two reasons, anon.1. You got the wife pregnant, right? So now that that worked you should try to ensure staying in good health for a long time. While that's possible with T, it's definitely much harder.2. You're looking great rn. Sick lats and traps. If you think otherwise (or hear something else from others) it's probably the body dismorphia talking.
>>77162366Good points. Staying healthy until my kid's an adult is the only thing really keeping me from going back to the dark side.>If you think otherwise (or hear something else from others) it's probably the body dismorphia talking.I saw a guy I hadn't seen in 5+ years recently. He asked me "You stopped lifting?" and I died a little inside.
>>77162365>If I wanted to lie, I wouldn't have said I was roiding in the first place.No you wouldn't because your whole point was that you "already" looked impressive without roids>competing in sports. Also, I'm vain.Nice, so you use PEDs to be better in sports. Honestly, you're a pathetic excuse of a human being. Looking forwards to your eventual divorce and your kid referring you as their "asshole dad".
ITT
>>77162365>this is the behavior of someone who is not mad, raging, if you will
>>77162404Correct.>>77162378>No you wouldn't because your whole point was that you "already" looked impressive without roidsExcept I think I look like shit without, which is the premise of the thread.>Nice, so you use PEDs to be better in sports.Duh. Everyone's on the sauce. I know several international IPF champions and state record holders in powerlifting. Spoiler: they're all on steroids.
>>77159905>>77159908You're literally the same minus water retention
>>77162365Sorry you're so upset!
>>77162429>I think I look like shit nowTypical insecure faggot roidsexuals lmao
>>77162333You guys are such catty, faggy bitchesI bet this guy would never post physique and doesn't even have a 1000 total or lift at all for that matter>I'm so threatened I have to immediately attack and call names anyone who has accomplished somethingYou people really disgust me for the most part
>>77162333Feel free to post your lifts, m8. Not OP btw. 1630 total.
>>77162089Delusional
>>77162350They are insufferable, especially when they post "off gear" images and imply they will not continually regress the longer they go off (which they will)
>>77159908Blocky physique with terrible proportions
>>77162592If OP has been clean for a year, and his testosterone level is back to 600 ng/dl like he says, then there's no reason for him to regress, especially if he had a solid natty base, which he did have based on his powerlifting total. Honestly, some of you have the natty equivalent of TDS.
>>77162610Dream on
>>77162610I've been off for years and my test is back up to 885 ng/dl, yet I have progressively lost more and more gains. You have no clue what you're talking about
hurt dog howl
>>77162628You're not training hard, which is common for ex-roiders. My natty test level is 550ng/dl and I bench 170kg natty, squat 220kg and deadlift 250kg. There's absolutely no reason to regress if you have 885 unless you're lazy.
>>77162634Cool story bro
>>77162638Right back at you.
>>77162610total test is irrelevant. look at free test levels you monkey.
>>77162646Big number cooler
>>77162646Based on his current physique, it's probably fine.
>>77162654Dumb. It takes time to lose roid gains
>>77162660The biggest loss happens in the first few months when your test levels crater. It doesn't happen a year later when your test levels are back to average.
>>77162553Big mad lmao
Holy shit this dude literally like 5'4
>>77162676Yeah I am a hate you fucks. You don't even lift you just come here to shit on people who do and try to discourage. Also your posts are shit, contribute nothing and use the annoying faggy zoomer lingo that is the cancer ruining the site currently.Not OP btw
>>77162683Don't bother, dude. It's just zoomers who don't even lift.
>>77162668Doesn't matter. You progressively lose it all over a few years
>5'10"ok so you get mogged by the average high schoolergot it
>>77159905no man, just get real lean. lol Dig the half natty traps man. Girls dont give a sht if ur a roidhead as long as ur big and lean, which is very accomplishable natty. U actually kinda look like me as a natty when u were roided, mayb a little smaller even. just fuller delts/traps.
>>77162683This dude got hit right in his fee fees lmaooooGo cry and stick a needle in your ass already you fucking insecure dweeb
>>77162335Somebody actually posts body, is natural and mogs the fuck out of 99 percent of this board and you call him a tranny. This is why /fit sucks now
>>77162803Because you are a tranny.
>>77162372>"You stopped lifting?"Ouch. Would be easy to say "don't take it to heart," but yeah, that hurts (depending on who said it)On the other hand: you're not going to look like a roider that actually lifted some weight, without the roids. No way around that. As I said, you look plenty fit for a normal person though
I don't see the point in going back on. You have a good fizeek. I don't get why anons are so fucking mad
OPs samefagging is unreal lmfao
>>77162740Literally everyone who responded along these lines needs to do some introspecting. Because the fact is you are a Bitch.You see that OP is stronger and looks better than you. So your reaction? Your reaction is to cunt at him, like a hurt woman. That's what you're doing.You know pic rel? You are on the bottom. Every one of you who wrote some snarky Bitch attack at Op. Guess what that doesn't accomplish? It doesn't make you any better. It doesn't make OP look any less good than you. It accomplishes nothing but briefly, in a pathetic way, assuaging your ego. Which is hurt because inferiority. That's literally what you are doing. That you would act this way at all means you really need to look inside. I'm being 100% serious. You need to decide what kind of person you are going to be. A Cunty Bitch who cunts at people when his fragile ego is hurt, or if you are going to join the ranks of the human and learn to act like an adult male.
>>77162749You should kill yourself. Do you think the world needs people like you? Why would anyone want someone like you around?>>77162803This happens literally every time someone posts physique. All the weak losers, who don't lift, attack him. This makes them feel better about the fact that they don't lift.I'm serious. That's all it is. The weakest pieces of shit you can imagine get hurt when they see a guy better than them, so they act like this.Stop for a second and imagine what a contemptible piece of shit someone like that is. Then realize it's about half the board.
>>77163418>>77163420Manlet tranny OP is so fucking butthurt kek
>>77163435I'm not OP. I don't care about him. I just HATE """people""" like you, and you make up about half this website.
>tranny meltdownPottery.
>>77161781No, slippers/house shoes are used in my home too. We use slippers but more similar to slides in looks during summer.If you have an IKEA in your country maybe you can check them out in the bath section, they are nice.Congratulations on your baby, hope you and your wife stay happy and healthy a long time. Please don't take any more performance enhancing stuff anon.Take care.
>>77162908>I don't see the point in going back on. You have a good fizeek.I guess it's because I'm always comparing myself to what I used to be. Benching 4plates for reps is something else, you know?>>77163617Thanks, mate.
>>77163860>Benching 4plates for reps is something else, you know?I doubt that 90% of the posters in this thread can bench 185, shit, 135, so no, they don't "know."
>>77163860It was never "you" lmao. You had to use drugs to do that. It isn't your accomplishment lmfao
>>77164007You might as well argue that no athlete is legit if you're going to go down that line of reasoning. Not OP btw.
>I might be fat, and out of shape, and not lift at all. But since I don't juice that makes me BETTER than pro athletes and guys with great physiques and strength levels!Literally what fat women do. The guys on here are on the same level as catty fat women.
>>77159905No
>>77164196How did you get my messages?
>>77164121>>77164173The absolute roidtranny cope
>>77162916>>77163435>>77163447>>77164007>>77164230All me btw
>>77164121If you literally can't push a weight without using a drug, then no, other anon is correct. You didn't push the weight.
>>77159908Absolute manlet self obliteration
>>77159905>sitting at 5'10,
>>77159908>>77159905All the roids in the world can't give you calves
>>77163418yeah bro, my ego is so bruised that I spent half an hour writing and rewriting that verbal diarrhea in your post.very cool.Gonna go introspect now!
>>77164498Roid trannys constantly lie about everything lmao. Dude looks to be 5'6 tops.
>>77162634Roids allow for shit training and shit dieting/sleep but continued growth. Even if the T number goes back "up", for some reason it's not the same as even a 200mg cruise and they have years of shitty lifting habits and tendon damage to work around.
>>77163860NP
>>77159946>Sorry I got your incel thread archived.You're the only incel here, stop projecting
>>77161673>oh this is a woman for sureNo, that's not how it works>>77162343>Based.Cringe and wrong
>>77161742You're a larping loser pretending to be someone else, fuck off retard
>>77162553you got baited by 30 indians bro, accept that your bone structure and insertions arent the best and get back on cycle
>>77164529>Half an hour to write a paragraph
>>77159905>I took years off my life to get to natty peak faster??? why?
>>77159905>>77159908Maybe it's the lighting but I think you look better off gear. Maybe just run a low dose of trt and take HCG so you can have kids.
>>77162484This guy is right, roid use is woman-brained behavior strictly reserved for insecure losers. No amount of gains will counter the fact that you cheated and you will never be able to regain the dignity lost through this choice.
