Why is there a negative correlation between natural testosterone and IQ?
>>77164995i think about that nigga every day
IQ measures a particular type of intelligence. It doesn't measure instinct or leadership qualities.
Probably race
>>77164995IDK, but even though I lift myself and know plenty of very intelligent big guys, whenever see a buff rando on the street, I can't help but assume he's a fucking troglodyte.
>>77165022This guy gets it
>>77164995Because the smart kids usually put all their time into academics and other nerd shit instead of doing the lifestyle activities that lead to slightly higher test levels.
Both are pseudoscientific measures, it's like correlating your chi with your gematria or whateverTotal testosterone doesn't matter unless you have female levels, get a free testosterone test, which still wouldnt matter if you have shitty reception or if your ratio with estrogen is off or if you're chronically inflammed etc, it's like flaunting your ELO in a MMORPG
>>77164995>Why is there a negative correlation between natural testosterone and IQ?black people
>>77165011The question still stands
>>77165011>IQ tests don't measure hard to define qualities and personality traits that have nothing to do with brain powerWhat an intelligent observation.
>>77164995This is a fake chart, I dare you to find the study this chart comes from and post the link and screenshot of the study with this chart or data in it.It doesn't exist, this thread is based on an false premise. The thread can end now so that you guys don't waste any more of your time thinking and posting about this retarderness.
>>77165094People with low test think more than people with high test. The more you think, the more powerful your brain becomes over time.High test people are in the moment, low test people are planning ahead. All of this is obvious.
>>77165061You don't need female levels for it to affect you. Yes a difference of 100 between guys or whatever is meaningless. But a decline like what we've seen over the years is substantial. Likewise, IQ is a real and meaningful metric.
>>77165146I think that explanation seems obvious and true to you probably just because you're high test
>>77164995>Always get hassled by my gp cause I have testosterone level above 1900 ngl, and he thinks it's not natural.>Tested at 17, with an IQ of 156. I am unlike 99% of people you meet OP for sure, but there arent enough dots on this "chart" that show regression to the mean. Now if you wouldn't mind post the actual study, or it's AI propaganda.
>>77164995you might have brawn but i have brains
>>77165022Isnt that racist tho?
>>77164995I'd wonder about demographics. Younger people have higher IQ, but a teen would have lower testosterone. Race matters too.
>>77164995>160 IQI always knew I was built different
>>77165321Dang mines only 45 :(
These studies are a psyop to demoralize. Intelligence typically acquires physical fitness because it helps with cognition. The dumbest people on the planet are always the fattest and laziest. Any sufficiently intelligent person will seek to be physically fit.It's also why roiders are retards. They choose a costume of fitness that actively destroys their health.
>>77165441Forget it IQ's for a bunch of skinny jerkoffs who can't play sports.
>>77165484>These studies are a psyop to demoralize. Intelligence typically acquires physical fitness because it helps with cognition. The dumbest people on the planet are always the fattest and laziest. Any sufficiently intelligent person will seek to be physically fit.High IQ people tend to also be healthier, stronger, more athletic, etc. Good traits, and bad traits, tend to cluster.
>>77165011>IQ measures a particular type of intelligenceNo you dolt, it tests intelligence. There isn't anything such as "emotional intelligence" or any of that nonsense. IQ tests measure your ability for pattern recognition, which is both the only mental metric that can be reliably and consistently measured and is also the basis of rationality, logic, self-awareness, and general cognition.
>>77164995I thought it was the opposite, especially since women are lower IQ.Brain size is limited. Maybe high test promotes brain usage of muscle recruitment and fine motor skills over math and pattern recognition.
>>77164995Styropyro up there.
>>77164995Better question what area of iq is most deficient because they're usually have things like speed, spacial reasoning, memory and a few other basic qualities of intelligence in there. If one is significantly deficient it can drag the average down.
>>77164995The barrier for 160-180 iq is early high school honors classes math, aka people who decided to be a nerd and threw away any chance at sports.
>>77164995This thread gets made every week, either bot or I’m going to start believing in kekke’s existance.If you can’t figure you’re low iq. high iq people are more likely to have an office job (stem, finance, etc), thus a sedentary lifestyle, sitting 8+ hours a day and no sun exposure. Low iq people are relegated to manual labor, thus more physical activity and sunlight
>>77164995Evolution selects for efficient and specialised allocation of available resources. Brains consume a lot of calories, more powerful brains moreso. Test increases muscle mass, metabolic rate, etc. Environmental pressures rarely demand both exceptional physical and mental power. Before anyone brings up muh combat, warfighting is not combat sports, intelligence is much more important than athleticism for organised conflict. Case in point asians can be effective warriors but very rarely sport fighters, with the inverse obviously being true of sub saharan africans. As for the evolutionary pressure of high test? Hard to say but probably matriarchy, where brief, sporadic disorganised one on one combat between males would be more likely.
>>77165625There's realistically no 160+ unless you're using one of the shit scales it would mean that brain inside their head is capable of processing 1.6 times the amount of information as an average person. 1.5 is scary already if you've ever met one.You can't grow iq either maybe more than 5 to 10 points by familiarization with a test and maybe the language portions they are timed. It is not designed to test how much you know or your semantic argumentation just how quickly and accurately you can recall and interpret novel information and reason.
>>77165058This.
>>77165001
>>77165546Emotional intelligence isn't nonsense. It dictates your ability to stay present and make correct decisions in stressful situations.No one is going to say the lanky shy nerd that stutters when he talks is superior to the buff gigachad leaders because the nerd has the heckin higher IQ.
>>77165011Right, because neither of those is intelligence.
>>77165734What you've just described is decision making ability
>>77165150This is backed up by nothing and proves nothing, you just regurgitated OP.There's no control group for these "oh my gaaad men are becoming low testosterone your grandma had 3000 ng/dl !!!!!" So they're going off speculation and fearmongering to push for TRT. Dont look up the "conflict of interest" section of these "studies"
>>77165734No one is going to say the lanky extroverted nerd that talks fluently is superior to the buff "reserved" (shy) gigachad because the nerd has the heckin higher emotional IQ.
>>77164995it makes sense to me. given the evolutionary playing field, intelligence and physical dominance both lead to survival. but they necessitate different constraints in order to evolve.
>>77164995>negative correlation between natural testosterone and IQThis graph says nothing about "natural testosterone". It says something about testosterone measurements.What someone's "natural testosterone" would produce, is not what you will see in this measurement, since the actual testosterone levels of an individual depend on lifestyle, diet, frame of mind, physical activity, sexual activity, etc. If every single one of these individuals had the exact same lifestyle, then yes, it would be a measurement of "natural testosterone" vs IQ. But they don't.
>>77165636Trip on
>>77165907this yeah
>>77167336You are in the bottom left corner of the graph
>>77165546GRUG SAY PUNY SOFT BRAIN NO MATCH FOR ROCK MUSSELS
More points in INT means less available for STR
>>77167695This. It's basic stat budget shit, everyone should know this.
>>77164995Because the data and plot here is fake, you can go check the National longitudinal study yourself and there is no measurement of testosterone levels. It definitely isn't from a real study because no study will be title as Testosterone vs IQ, it would be like the Relationship between Serum Testosterone Levels and IQ
>>77167902The actual links between Test and IQ are weak and fairly inconsistent but generally test is associated with higher IQ till 1100 ng/dl and then IQ drops a bit. Test is also associated with higher IQ with no cap for academically successful men:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9622799/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11913330/
>>77167927based truth merchant
>>77167501Roid rage.
>>77165546>There isn't anything such as "emotional intelligence" or any of that nonsenseEmotional intelligence measures the ability to deal with pattern recognition that is more probabilistic than deterministic. This is why autists like fields like math where everything is laid plain and certain, but struggle when it's people and you have to operate on a bunch of assumptions that have to be constantly adjusted with no clear feedback. These are different types of reasoning that are handled by different areas of the brain.
race and lower IQs are more likely to be doing physcially demanding jobs which should increase test more than sitting in an office I would think
>>77168956Meme broscience
>>77168956Why don't you guys read the fucking thread where it's been pointed out many times that this is all bullshit before farting out your most basic common guess
