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>bolts up to you aggressively
Will your muscles save you? What's your plan? (hardmode: no gun or knife)
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>>77165377
The recommended advice is unironically to shove your arm down its gullet and hold it there till it suffocates. I imagine that's harder than it sounds.
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>>77165377
Simple. I match his energy and play with him. Dogs recognize me as a friend because I am not a subhuman.
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>>77165384
oops, you got bit by the niggerbull!
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>>77165392
everything is predestined, if after reasonable caution I get bit it simply was supposed to happen
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>>77165392
It was just a play bite. Didn't even pierce the skin. I continue letting him grab onto my hand and lift him off the ground.
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>>77165377
Yeah, assuming zero weapons, and we're locked in a room together: I'm getting bitten on the arm/leg, but that thing is getting beaten/crushed/gouged to death. 100kg ape beats a 30kg dog. I'm going for kicks to the face first, if it gets its jaws locked on me (lets face it, probably) I'm going to do everything I can to protect my neck/armpits/groin and sandbagging that motherfucker.

I've never been attacked by a dog but theres always a first time, and I've got young children so if that thing fucks around it will find out.

If I have a chair or a stick or any kind of weapon really, it's over with.
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>>77165377
Gotta use your forearm as a shield by shoving it in its mouth (bone side, you don't want it biting arteries), wrap any clothing around your arm if you have time for some protection (it will still be bitten through). This way, you minimize the risk of random haphazard bites that could be vital points, like arteries behind your legs and thighs, groin, arms and even throat.
Then attack in any way possible without allowing it to release the forearm bite. Push into it so it is difficult to let go of it. Attacks could be punches/hammerfists to the head in the hopes of stunning it (although they have incredibly strong skulls) or kicks to the underside. Another avenue could be somehow forcing it into a choke, either with your arms, knees or feet. I can imagine you can somehow manage to fall on its body, smothering it while holding down its head. The only dangerous part is its mouth. Think of battling with an electric fan that has razor blades that is spinning in 9000rpm with 360 degrees motion that also has a body and 4 legs.
Literally ANY kind of tool (especially a wooden stick, metal rod, a rock or some fabric) can be a massive help, so if there is anything like that around use it.
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>>77165394
so it was written
>>77165397
in my insane bloodlust my playbite turns to a real bite. I'm now mauling you as I would a random unsupervised infant.
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>>77165377
Just stay calm and don't fight it!
The best way to deal with a dog attack assuming you're not a small toddler or a super old granny is to just stand your ground.
no running, no moving, no screaming.
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>>77165377
Even if somehow it doesn't get knocked out, I could easily kick back a 100lb dog or one punch will throw it back a good distance. If it gets my arm I'm stomping it's neck, snapping it's arms off, kicking its body in, breaking the tail. Definitely a soccer kick first though.
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>>77165377
I always take a dagger with me (Europoor here)when I'm walking at night. I've stabbed 2 shitbulls to death and one boxer. No regrets, it was actually pleasurable.

Femoids here like to let their shitbulls roam free at night for some odd reason. I hope they cried their subhuman insides out when their little shits didn't come home.
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>>77165627
Did they attack you or did you just stab them for no reason?
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>>77165630
One shitbull and a boxer just straight up ran towards me growling. With the other shitbull I didn't take any chances when I saw him make the "stance", he didn't want to back down either. I don't trust those breeds at all.
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>>77165377
king haki and little bitch runs away
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>>77165377
if you fail to land a single kick to make it decide to leave you alone (or die) going to have to sacrifice your non-dominant forearm to the maw and wrestle the thing into a pin, and strangle it.
It's only 60 lbs, but you're probably going to need a lot of stitches on that forearm
>>77165415
and or that.
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>>77165377
>What's your plan?
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>>77165377
I hate dog owners with a burning passion.
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>>77165377
I accept my fate and die
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>>77165377
>hardmode: no gun
I don't leave home without a pistol on my person
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>>77165377
give treats and headpats and hope he doesn't decide to go super-saiyan
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>>77165377
if it's anything like an aggressive cat then the solution is to simply grab the base of it's neck and push it into the floor, george floyding it. idk if this would work for a shitbull tho. can i use a pole or a stick? i feel that would be more effective than a knife anyway.
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>>77165632
>>77165627
I walk around at a spot in the neighborhood that it goes into a small forest and there are literally no escape spots and sometimes owners leave their shitbulls and german shepherds (i like this breed but still dangerous) out of leash. Also my dog died a few months ago and i feel naked going there now but i gotta get my steps in.
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>>77165377
Please put me in the cage with a 100lb pitbull I'd kill him
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>>77165377
probably try and snap its break and twist its limbs off while it rips my forearm to pieces.
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>>77165719
break and twist its limbs off, rather
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>>77165377
If you know some BJJ you might make it, I heard a story from a guy who choked a pitbull unconscious. The dog wasn't trying to kill him though, he was trying to kill another pitbull, so it's anyone's guess how you can manage one that's coming at you not facing away from you focused on eating another one.
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im 130kg on 5 years cycle
just fall on him and he is dead
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>>77165711
Pitbulls are way too big.
in all defense videos shilled they actively promote choking the dog out and it's not the base of it's neck it's up underneath the jaw where the trachea is.
However if a dog is attacking you, that shit just don't work with a fucking pitbull.
pitbulls can maul in seconds and they can weigh a fuckton. good luck one hand choking a shitbull while it's dragging you the opposite direction.

now if a shitbull is attacking your dog or someone else and it has a collar on. grab collar up under neck right where it meets the jaw. two hand it and choke the ever loving shit out of it up towards your chest and inward. do not let go, period.
pitbull has to release your dog or the other person, it physically has to. if it resist against this position it is actively cutting off its own oxygen to the brain because that is where the major arteries to its brain are located. it also just can't fucking breathe. so two for the price of one.

also OP just shitposting.
I have never left without a gun or a knife, never.
I won't let my girlfriend even go to her car where we live without me walking her out to say goodbye.
had a dog attack me once, wasn't fun. never again.
if i am outside, I have something.
Knife is into the neck, non stop, it's not optional. just keep cutting into the neck. it's not hard, dogs are designed to maul (grab, drag, rip, and tear) so dog throats through evolution, hair, etc can handle being attacked by other dogs to a degree. Dogs absolutely fail at anything that slices or pierces.
I suggest Karambit, if you have time to pull it out and death grip it in your one hand. that hand must be functional. sacrifice the other hand to defend yourself during the attack. when he starts pulling you and mauling you slam it into that area, pierce and slice.

but honestly gun, gun in every instance. revolver.
never fucking again.
also be aware most dog attacks happen from packs, two+ dogs escaping from some backyard.
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>>77165377
Dogs only attack depleted fucks
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>>77165738
If I carry a gun or knife in my country I'll get a huge fine(close to 3k euro) and lose my hunting license which allows me to own shotguns and rifles.
Such is life.
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>>77165744
ah if that's the case raise your own pitbulls and throw them into the houses of people who tell you you'll get a fine for having a knife or a gun.
the problem will solve itself as new laws are passed banning pitbulls or allowing guns.

never forget that laws only exist or don't exist to benefit the desires of the rich.
if the rich start getting hurt, new laws are passed to protect them.
>b-but i can't drop them into their house
okay drone drop a pitbull into their back yard.
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>>77165789
Pitbulls are banned in my country though, so don't have to worry about them.
We have some based laws, but so many retarded ones too.
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>>77165377
isn't it obvious?
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>>77165714
Get a long knife/dagger. And wear more layers of clothing especially on one of your forearms. That way you can shove your padded forearm into a shitbull's face and then stab him. You obviously want padded forearm to avoid any artery damage, shitbulls are vicious and don't let go untill they're done.
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>>77165377
Drop body weight on it, then pick up and slam its head onto the ground. Repeat as needed. There’s videos of people doing this, it isn’t difficult. A 50-60lb dog is not dangerous to a grown man between 14-60 unless you are a fat or weak pile of shit.

Note, not dangerous doesn’t mean you can’t get hurt.
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>>77165956
May as well tell me how to bodyslam a mountain lion or military strategy in the middle east like you have any clue what you are shitting out of your fat gulliver.
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>>77165377
Blow in its ear
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>>77165384
dogs are right to fear me
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>bred to pin down literal bulls in an ancient bloodsport
>thinking you have a chance
You can survive but you’re gonna lose a lot of flesh
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>>77166082
>bulls walk on two legs and have hands

retarded?
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>>77166104
my wife's bull certainly does
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>>77166121
You’re a good husband
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>>77165534
You are correct, but
> I could easily kick back a 100lb dog
Shitbulls aren’t even that big. The average weight is like 60lbs
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>>77165959
> mountain lion
>yeah but what if this animal was a completely different animal twice the size and fights in a completely different manner
Wow, you really showed me
>or military strategy in the middle east
This is relevant how?

Explain what’s wrong. Don’t change topic. And quit fetishizing shitbulls like you do with niggers. They aren’t anything impressive.
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I'll just pull out my pocket tazer and fuck it up
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>>77166082
>be completely wrong about the breed
>have dogshit opinion
Checks out. Pitbulls came from bulldogs that then fought in pits. That’s where the name comes from. They were bred to fight dogs. Not people, not bulls.

Your bigger miss is that bull-baiting involves the bull being TIED UP ALREADY. A 2000lb bull is wrecking even dozens of dogs if it has the ability to move.
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But I always use me blades
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>>77165377
I'd listen to what it had to say and that's what no one did
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>>77166194
Same. But my taser uses lead and copper.
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>>77165956
i've had to wrestle my way out of both a crazed pitbull and a crazed german shepherd. this is pretty much correct. dogs kind of missile at you so you have a window of opportunity (albeit a very small one) to wrap the fucker and drop on it. i got bit both times but not maimed. unfortunately you're all internet abusing shitlords so i imagine you have the reaction times of grandmas and will probably get fucked up beyond recognition no matter what you try, so (You) should probably just avoid nasty dogs.
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>>77165723
Goddam BJJ people are delusional.
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>>77165377
I imagine I will get knocked over and mauled before I register what's going on, but then hopefully get my pocket knife out and start carving.
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I follow the teachings of warrior poet Trombley and rip the dog’s stomach out through its mouth.
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>>77166240
Hi Marilyn
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>>77166198
>They were bred to fight dogs
That was a hundred years ago, nowadays' pitbulls have nothing to do with them anymore. You're as retarded as him.
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>>77165627
Yeah sure you did Hamed/Mehmet/Mohammad
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>>77165493
>Just stay calm and don't fight it!
Pit bulls are bred to be so dumb they lack self-preservation instincts. They aren't intimidated by confidence. Irredeemable maniacs that would be shot on sight in a sane world.
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probably wail around like a maniac, bite scratch, never go in any way in defense. Bite that fucker in the nose, rip its eyes out, pull the legs apart. Tjat strategy will lead to me possibly dying, but atleast i had the opportunity to maim that fucker in the worst possible ways
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>>77166392
That’s why pointers that aren’t bird dogs never point or retriever that aren’t bird dogs don’t like to retrieve either? Right?

God why are pitfags so delusional
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>>77166420
I'm from Serbia you retarded subhuman. I'd gladly stab you as well.
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>>77166343
> unfortunately you're all internet abusing shitlords so i imagine you have the reaction times of grandmas and will probably get fucked up beyond recognition no matter what you try
Pot, meet kettle.
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>>77166427
) “Pit bulls are bred to be dumb”
This is just false.
Dogs commonly grouped as “pit bulls” (like the American Pit Bull Terrier and American Staffordshire Terrier) were historically bred for:
strength
tenacity
responsiveness to handlers
They were not bred for low intelligence. In fact:
Many score well in working/obedience contexts
They’re widely used in training sports, search work, and therapy settings
Trainers often describe them as eager to please but high-energy, which can be mistaken for “dumb” if poorly trained
What people call “dumb” is usually:
lack of training
overstimulation
or high drive without structure
2) “They lack self-preservation instincts”
Also misleading.
All animals—including these dogs—have self-preservation instincts. What’s different is:
pain tolerance can be higher in some lines
drive persistence (they don’t give up easily once aroused)
That doesn’t mean they don’t feel danger—it means they may:
push through discomfort
stay engaged longer once highly stimulated
That trait exists in many working animals (think herding dogs, protection dogs, etc.).
3) “They aren’t intimidated by confidence”
This part misunderstands how dogs interpret behavior.
Dogs don’t think in terms of “confidence” the way humans do. They respond to:
body language
movement
eye contact
tension levels
A calm, controlled person:
is less likely to trigger escalation
but does NOT “dominate” or intimidate the dog
A highly aroused dog—of any breed—may ignore:
calmness
shouting
“confidence”
because it’s operating in a reactive or predatory state, not a social one.
4) Where this myth actually comes from
There is a kernel of truth that got distorted:
Historically, some lines of these dogs were selected for “gameness”—meaning persistence under stress.
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>>77165377
Dogs aren't that dangerous as long as they don't go for the neck, you should be taking advantage of their instinct to latch onto what they bit and let them go for your forearm, will hurt like a bitch but you won't die and permanent damage is unlikely with medical care.

At that point you go to town on its head, especially the nose because it's very sensitive. If you don't have any weapons, just beat the shit out of its nose with your other hand until there's no nose left.

I carry pepper spray and a gun so i will use either depending on how merciful I'm feeling.
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For those wondering, no, you cant outpower a dog's jaw. Fighting one is like fighting a person with a knife: You will get cut even if you win

Btw dogs rock, I love them
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>>77166455
>pitcuck trying to "correct" me
Sorry but I've seen 1500 videos of mauled innocent people and animals next to bloody pit bulls unaware that they were their own worst enemies (Causing their demise by euthanasia).
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>>77166551
...Oh, and the one in a staged fight with a boar five times its weight that rushes straight for it and gets impaled by a tusk.
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>>77166551
Before pitts were introduced into america, german shepherds were responsible for many maulings and had an overwhelming majority of dog attack deaths. The numbers are way down now. Do you think the nature of german shepherds changed or do you think they stopped mauling as often when people found better guard/fight dogs to train to be aggressice?
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>>77166468
Yep thats about right. I know I could kill pretty much any dog in a deathmatch situation but the collateral damage is not avoidable. I would probably lose to that one breed that was created to kill bears though not gonna lie. Your average shitbull I would body slam to death as it ripped into my forearm or whatever.
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>>77166569
>Before pitts were introduced into america, german shepherds were responsible for many maulings and had an overwhelming majority of dog attack deaths.
This sounds like an urban legend created by pit bull afficionados. I don't think I've ever seen a german shepherd random attack video, only when cops tell them to.
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>>77166569
Not him but the nature of german shepherds absolutely did change. Their breed has been cucked as they stopped being bred to work and began being bred to be pets. All their useful traits and aggression has been dramatically reduced because of puppy mill fucking faggots.
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>>77166579
Makes sense, it's just incredible how you can alter dog genetics through selective breeding in so few generations.


Also, you got to figure how many millions of more pitts there probably are than other breeds like shepherds. Pibble is really a term than encompasses multiple breeds.
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>>77166468
> Fighting one is like fighting a person with a knife
A person with a 1” knife, less reach than an arm, and where that knife is also right next to their most vulnerable areas.

I’m not saying a dog can’t seriously injure you, but it’s not that same at all compared to a real weapon. It’s not the same as big cats or bears that have claws. Canines are pack hunters. They aren’t solo fighters (even the ones bred to dogfight). Their bodies aren’t made for individual combat. A grown man has nothing to fear.
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>>77165377
You guys are morons animals know exactly who and what they can take, go watch some videos of people who own lions and tigers they don't show the same respect as an aggressive breed trying to be the alpha and/or it's a female. Dogs that are domesticated wouldn't be domesticated if people couldn't possibly take it hand to hand because you have to put a collar on it and shit. Go put a collar on a tiger or elephant and let it loose in battle, they did that before and it went wrong. Yes I know you can cage them by baiting but the mentality is different to the animal if it's a polar bear. Under stress even if it's housebroken a wild apex predator is gonna be prone to violent outbursts and even a domesticated animal is prone to walking all over you if it knows it could rip you to shreds.
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>>77165377
>(hardmode: no gun or knife)
Laser or hammer, call it. They mog guns and knives at long and short ranges, respectively, anyway.
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>>77166603
Here's a tamed bear but still not so huge and fierce that multiple people wouldn't be able to handle with a spear or something. Now me vs a timberwolf it's a 5050.
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>>77165462
>in my insane bloodlust my playbite turns to a real bite. I'm now mauling you as I would a random unsupervised infant.
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>>77165377
I deliver a swift kick to the face just like last time.
Some shitbull's paper-thin skull plate < my steeltoe boot at 50mph
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>>77166427
It's not about "confidence" it's just a dog.
The point is to just de-escalate things and not making yourself seem like a good outlet for their pent-up energy.
Thruth be told if a dog gets like that it's because the owners aren't doing a good job in making sure he gets his energy out in a healthy trained way via walks and toys and etc
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>>77166770
I bet most serial killers could have been peaceful if their lives were engineered in a very special way, but there's just something about them.
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>>77166770
What if it's sicced on you?
>>77166427
Why not eradicate all wild animals this is ragebait.
>>77165493
I doubt this is going to work on an animal unless it's a territorial dispute, even then what if it's hungry?

This shit is all so stupid it has to be the same poster.
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>>77166455
>2) “They lack self-preservation instincts”
I'm pretty sure they and/or cane corsos are basically the dogs of war from ancient times.
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>>77166602
What I mean is that you are very very likely to exit the fight with injuries
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>>77165672
I wouldn't project my chi like the boxer retard and eat a sen no sen kick to my face that's for sure
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>>77166569
> german shepherds were responsible for many maulings and had an overwhelming majority of dog attack deaths.
And what were the raw numbers? Being the majority is relatively meaningless when you don’t post the whole population.
>The numbers are way down now.
Neat. Post them.
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The traditional dog defense method is to get them to bite a protected arm and then bash them with a cudgel
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>>77165377
I always carry a knife and gun so GG I shoot dog easy W for humanity and my ability to wield tools.
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>>77166953
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5636534/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
a systematic review of U.S. dog bite studies (1958–2016) published in a surgical journal.
What it actually found:
Before 1980:
German Shepherds accounted for 68.4% of reported bites in the literature �
PMC
1981–2000:
German Shepherds still the largest single group (~20.1%)
2001 onward:
“Pit bull–type” dogs became the largest group (~37.5%)
German Shepherds dropped to ~7.1% �
PMC

At the moment there are millions of pitts in the united states while only a few hundred thousand GS
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>>77165377
>teleports behind you
Will your mask save you? What's your plan? (hardmode: dog has invisibility and is highly caffeinated)
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>>77166797
>Why not eradicate all wild animals this is ragebait.
They aren't even wild animals. Domesticated and engineered for violence by breeding.
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I made a police dog whimper once just by looking at it. Thing is I was actually scared of the little devil, you'd think that that's all that matters with animals, but it knew that even if it can bite my arm or whatever I would just crush him, break all his ribs. There's a reason wolves hunt in packs.
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>>77165384
This is the mindset trailer trash whites have before their shitbull rips their daughter in half
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>>77166452
serbs are literal turkic rapebabies. You will never be white bojan.
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>>77167037
>raw numbers
Did you purposely leave that out or are you illiterate?
68% of 50 total attacks is less impactful than 37% of 1000 attacked. The larger the numbers the more of a pattern. You also left out what PORTION of the total dog population is each breed.

Then there’s the general skepticism that dog attacks in 19 fucking 58 aren’t going to be as well tracked as anything this century.

Just admit pits are what they are. Humans made them that way. Pointers point, retrievers retrieve, huskies love snow. Pitbulls love to maul small things.
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Let him bite my thick forearm and while he grabs onto it, scream so the owner comes.
Once the owner approaches i use my free hand and shoot him in the face for having a shitbull. I pry off the dog and let him feast on the owner
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>>77165672
1. Eat shit
2. Die
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>>77166577
My family had one in my late teens. Dog was pampered and loved his whole life and would still routinely try to attack other dogs just going out on a walk.
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>>77167309
>My family had one in my late teens.
>family has dog for maximum 4 years
>no story about why like he got dog beetus and died
i believe you
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>>77165377
Sucks because you're gonna get bit, but just sit on the stupid thing and smash its head into the ground. Its only chance is for you to fuck up and let it somehow bite a vital.
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>>77167138
>sick ass dog of war from ancient times
>I thought the woman I sold it to could handle it
Well shucks I guess it's nobody's fault.
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>>77165723
You think you need to know bjj to choke a dog? What is he going to I get you in an armbar if you fuck up? Retard
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>>77165377
If you kept punching its head on the ground eventually it'll die unless you're a toddler. If I got a kick to the gut though that would definitely break its ribs if I connected.
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>>77167431
The last thing I want for him to do slip free and turn around in grappling distance. It's immoral to sell a male fighting dog to a female.
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>>77167439
The last thing I want is for him to understand my techniques because I'm not advanced enough and get me in an ankle lock!
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>>77165377
>Will your muscles save you?
From what? All he's doing is smiling!
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Let it bite my leg, then grab it on either side of head and crush it's skull with my bare hands.
I've been practicing on rats and other small rodents I find, it can't be that much harder to do a dog
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>>77167431
Yeah probably, dogs are slippery buggers, if you have zero technique your won't know what to do, if you do know what to do congrats you know some BJJ. By definition.
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>>77166620
wojtek was such a kinographic creature
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>>77167242
I'm whiter than any amerimutt manlet, that's for sure.
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I teleport behind the dog and flying pile drive it into the cement.
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>>77165627
>Femoids here like to let their shitbulls roam free at night for some odd reason
I rarely go out at night but I just remembered one time I was around and there was a shitbull roaming free and the femoid owner very far from it.
So it is a thing.
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>>77167272
It would be pretty crazy if 20 million pitts didnt bite more people than 200k shepherds honestly lol
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>>77165377
>be me, walking home at night
>see a couple of loose dogs run up to me, barking at me
>stay still and don’t do anything
>the dogs come close to me, circle me a few times, bark some more
>they start losing interest and go away
>owner calls them back
Staying still and doing nothing is usually the best course of action. If I had instinctually kicked these dogs I could’ve caused an actual fight not only with them but the owner as well. Running from dogs or most predatory animals can trigger their prey instincts and cause them to chase or attack you, and the slowest breeds of dog have a sprint speed within a few miles per hour of Usain Bolt. Climbing on top of something can work if there’s an appropriate object nearby, dogs are bad climbers. But generally staying still and doing nothing is the best course of action.

If I had to fight a dog, I would probably try to strangle it like some others in this thread have mentioned. Various animals in nature sometimes try to do it to each other so it doesn’t work exclusively on humans.



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