>one computer in the whole country
>use it to post on /fit/

>>77165453
No ivan we won't hate kazakhstan ivan

Anyone else ever be prone to hair loss, have a history with cycling but and have to stop due to loss, then maybe shortly after in future get a transplant and get on again and then just permablast? Just take dutasteride etc

Roids made me go from kissless to slayer. It’s the only reason I’m not eating androgens. Been years since that one cycle and it felt like I was a generic bwc mogger in an a24 film

>>77165537
shave it off pussy faggot

>>77165538
But then there’s no point. I do wish treatments didn’t exist however cuz id just be eating grams live a totally different life and prob get more pussy. But nothings like Jesusmaxxing on gear

>>77165541
If you want to blast but are scared of sides then yeah do your little fin min duta crap but if you think your hair is what is holding you back it aint the hair. Either spend the bucks to save it now or get plugs in the future or just shave it.

>>77165537
RU will save you on cycle, but no matter what you will shed even after you get a transplant

>>77165638
Ru was fantastic on cycle. But it did nothing when I was off looking for gains. Just the ultimate prevention.

And yea I’m all or nothing so it’s either all hair no gym all gym no hair

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started BPC 157 a couple of weeks ago and i've been out breath since
switched brand as well and i'm literally fucking wheezing all the time
getting really bad chest pains
is this normal? using it to fix my knee

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>>77165453
You leave the 'zak alone hivan.

>>77165731
nnnnnnope. i've never looked, but i think i've ever even seen people discussing bpc sides....

>>77165924
this, never heard even bpc having sides

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>>77165731
Not normal at all. Probably fake bpc? Some sellers sell corticoids. Bpc never solve it in hours or days, more a weeks thing.
>t. BPC157/TB500 enjoyer

>>77166038
does oral bpc work?

>>77166077
Bro/gym science says it's a great addition for the gut health, but not so effective for the wound/tendon healing etc

>>77166077
it does at like a 5-10% effective rate compared to injection

>>77166077
why? are you scared of needles?
Pussy

>>77166372
wow big boy, i'm totally impressed by how hard you are

no retard, it's that in oral forms impurities don't matter because they are digested, and almost all peptides have impurities. there is no lab-grade bpc157

>>77165537
take the wig pill bro. The honest truth is that there are wigs which will look way better than your natty hairline and especially your transplaneted hairline (which always looks like dogshit and its tot he point where I can spot your hair plugs from a mile away)

>>77165431
never thought about injecting more often but less fluid, thanks

>>77166448
KEK surely this is bait

>>77166598
Honestly, I think youre right. Im such a low inhib nigger I can’t even save up for a mill clinic for 1800 bucks lmao so no way saving couple hundred on a wig. and yea they look shit even the good transplant ones.

I just need long hair air on a ton of androgens before I hit 30 or I will never forgive myself. Stuck in the limbo of having to donate plasma because im a nig w money. Idk how robots esp frauders r so good w money

>>77166448
It can't be real. What's your IQ? - 500?

>>77166775
>>77166611
cope
it's literally the first thing you read about peptides outside of retarded shit on reddit

>>77166448
oral versions of things don't do as well because they break down in your gut, and are not easily transferred into your body. so maybe oral bpc could work 5% as well, if at all. no idea what the exact numbers are. same applies to all oral versions of this that should be injected. like the oral semaglutide i think i heard works 20% as well

>>77166836
You are the first person in years i have heard be worried about peptide impurities to a point of looking at orals
A question for you, if oral versions are only barely effective vs injected, what's the point of the impurities being dissolved? Wouldn't you just need more volume, concentration etc and thus more impurities are ingested, negating any positive benefits?
Sorta like how primo is weak as fuck so boomers just run a gram of the shit thus negating the perceived benefits of it being less hard on blood markers?

>>77166836
This is bait

Does it become harder to PCT back to natty the longer you cruise? Any anons with experience here?

>>77167628
yes, also depends on genes, theres always risk not bouncing back even if its low or high

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Why do doctors get so irrationally angry when you tell them you're on peptides?

>>77167628
If you use 19-nors even for a short time it never goes back to normal, they stay on your system forever

>>77165537
Roidtroons are the most pathetic people on the planet.

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>>77167773
Because their profession is being taken over by AI and people are realizing that most doctors are ignorant about most basic topics that you can discover on google. How many times have you heard someone say "my doctor said ___" and it's blatantly fuckin false?

Besides your surgeons and people in hospitals that save lives when something really fucking traumatic happens, going and getting advice from doctors is a borderline fuckin scam.

>>77167806
lol fear mongerer

>>77168191
doctors are basically retarded google machines

>>77168295
That's generous, most doctors seem to not understand basic shit that's available on the first link of Google.

>>77168295
>>77168303
hey that's not fair! there's so much information out there that it's totally unreasonable to expect highly trained specialists to know the basics of their specialization. or anything else from their specialization that they spent the better part of a decade researching. now that'll be $900 for the 30 second consult after insurance covered the other $4,000 for the same consultation

>>77168370
It's crazy how they spend like 12 years immersed in a giant memorization ritual, and once they get out they don't actually know anything.

>>77168385
education based around the rote memorization of facts is a pox on us all

How do you deal with your non-fraud friends making comments suggesting you use gear? Should I come clean or threaten to beat them to death?

>>77168428
Never ever admit you're frauding. Trust me. Don't even say you do TRT.

>>77168385
Doctors are the only people I can think of in my entire adult life who have spoken down to me as if they think I am a literal retard. I know they have to interact with the dumbest people in the country on a disproportionate basis but still bro. The disrespect is intolerable. The entire proccess of going to the doctor is an intolerable disrespect. Women often wonder why men don't go to the doctor. They literally are not capable of understanding respect I guess because they just accept the absolute bullshit that is making an appointment, showing up earily, and then being told to wait, then you get into the examination room and then you have to sit there and wait another 15+ minutes. FUCK YOU just thinking about it is pissing me off. Meanwhile I can take my fucking dog to the vet and he literally gets treated with more respect, promptly gets looked at, gets his meds prescribed and given to me right away instead of having to run another errand to the pharmacy. Fuck every last doctor and espeically double fuck every healthcare administrator and manager.

>>77168428
its nobodies business brah. Your friends don't tell you all the medications they take I'm sure.

>>77167645
Interesting, thanks. Would it be super autistic to cycle off once a year or so to try to prevent permanent shutdowns?

>>77167773
Doctors are the biggest gatekeepers of medicine on the planet. They believe if it's not something that will make you live longer then you shouldn't have it. They don't want to prescribe you stuff for fun because if you get hurt then that's on them. This type of thinking is ultra gay because not everyone's goal is longevity.

>>77168191
The problem with AI is that it regurgitates the peptide bro science with confidence. If you ask it the difference between CJC no DAC and Tesa it will say Tesa is a better fat burner. Huh? Who said that? Literally no study corroborates this, because there isn't a phase 3 trial on CJC no DAC lol. The AI doesn't know this, gets confused with CJC with DAC, and is generally retarded unless you know to ask it why two peptides that function in the exact same way would have a different fat burning result at equivalent dosages. Ultimately it's GH levels that determine fat burned, if you inject GH it will do the same thing as Tesa or CJC for visceral fat.

Just an example, I'm sure there are many others.

I got. Scam letter in the mail yesterday pretending to be from the department of homeland security claiming they had intercepted a package containing $21,000 worse of steroids including 267 grams of test e, and beyond me never ordering what would be a lifetime supply one way or another why wiuld i send them a check to pick up $21,000 worth of felony charges in exchange for more gear than i could ever hope to use or move

>>77168457
Why not?


>>77168475
It pisses me off. I'd get called an asshole for suggesting a girl had a facelift or nose job.

>>77168504
You think the site you buy shit from sold your info to scammers? I used to buy counterfeit goods online and I'm pretty sure they sold my credit card to scammers who tried to use my card.

I used to order cialis straight from pajeets in india with my credit card and they never scammed me lol I am living a charmed life

>>77168518
good morning

>>77168290
Where is the lie?
Have you ever used Deca?

>>77168533
its a complete lie lol just because a metabolite of deca is detectable in urine doesnt mean its affecting you for a year and a half. Just like how a drug test can find a THC metabolite from the joint you smoked a month ago. It doesn't mean that weed is psychoactive for a month after smoking.

>>77168506
I tell my friends im frauding and we talk about peptides, but its cringe because I am not bodybuilder huge so I look natty to normies who assume gear makes you massive overnight.
>>77168523
SAAR

cruising, 200 test alone is boring, fuck it I'll add some Mast

>>77168506
>Why not?
Natties get emotional about gear use. They will resent you for it, or even use it against you if the situation arises. You think they won't but they will. The truth is our minds naturally come up with reasons to think we're "better" than people we envy.
>I'm not a billionaire but they're all pedophiles/jew puppets, the reason I'm not rich is because I'm a good person
>Anon has lots of sex and I don't, but it's because I'm not some coom brain heathen with STDs
>Anon is stronger than me but it's only because he takes steroids. heh his balls are smaller than mine, I'm a real man, steroid muscles are just water. he's a cheater.
This is like human psychology 101

>>77168652
this, normies are not ready for real world

>>77168533
nothing stays in your system forever. 19-nors can trigger a positive result in a drug test for 18 months max. all effects are gone by then. most effects are gone within six months. i took 1.5g test + 1g deca for six months last year. i have no deca sides now. hell i had no deca sides during either. never had deca dick or whatever else people bitch about. definitely had a ton of water weight though

>>77168739
>i took 1.5g test + 1g deca for six months
Have your balls ever recovered, or did you sentence yourself to TRT for life due to permanent hormone dysfunction?

>>77168739
>i took 1.5g test + 1g deca
dude....

>>77168495
>Would it be super autistic to cycle off once a year or so to try to prevent permanent shutdowns?
it rolling dice always but longer and bigger cycles/cruising increase it and bigger dosage always increase risk, you can lower risk with hcg and other ball growing drugs, your changes could be 0% or 99%

>>77168533
Yes but I've used NPP instead

>>77168790
Got it, thanks. Is there any established cycle or are most dudes just cruising for life? Seems like we have a few offramps at least with hcg, kisspeptin and enclomiphene.

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>>77169150
You can realistically run 200mg test probably forever as long as you have a good diet and check bloods + BP often.

These are my bloods on 300mg test and 150 primo with a good amount of supplements and a good diet. Been running this for 6 months or so now.

Is there a secret for cheap testosterone testing?

I was on 400 test 200 npp for 5 months, I also added 40mg var the last 2 months. Was taking 0.25 adex twice a week to control e2 and P5P for the prolactin.

Bulking went well now I've started the cut and cruise. Only taking 200 test. I added Reta and 2.5iu HGH which were new to me, dropping weight steadily.

Issue is I have difficulty maintaining an erection when wanking, this never happened while I was blasting. Could it be the e2 or the prolactin? I dropped the AI and the P5P since I switched to 200 test only. I figured it would stabilize with time since shit from the blast was still leaving my system but I've had it for like 3-4 weeks now and idk if it is getting any better.
Or could it be the low calories/Reta causing it?
Either way I guess I need some bloodwork. Suggestions welcome about what could be causing it.

>>77169203
Thanks anon, it definitely seems sustainable from a longevity standpoint. Your cholesterol is pretty on point, any crazy diet tricks other than goyslop avoidance?

As for cruising I guess I'm just concerned about various reasons why I'd want to roll back. Being able to reproduce isn't a major concern to me (and there are temp solutions to that), but not having a dependence on a drug that might either become to expensive or impossible to get is definitely holding me back.

>>77168759
no idea. i'm cruising 160 test & 300 tren

>>77169207
if you're in the us, use hello good labs, discounted labs, or there are some others. test ms + e2 ms + lipids + cbc + cmp is like $100 or so

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>>77169266
>Your cholesterol is pretty on point, any crazy diet tricks other than goyslop avoidance?

For both blood tests in the image, I was on 300mg test and 150mg primo the whole time. Main things I changed in those 3 months:

Unironically going from mostly red meat to white meat. Still eat it but mostly ground turkey and chicken now instead of steak and ground beef.

I added in fiber (oatmeal) plus supplementing psyllium husk, doubled red yeast rice every night, and likewise doubled fish oil. Also added citrus bergamot.

I've blasted and cruised since April 2024 and my lipids always kinda sucked till I implemented the above changes.

I despise you subhumans. Inject drugs you get from 3rd world countries in your ass so you can have the hormonal balance of a nigger. I hope all of you get cystic acne and dick issues.


kys

>>77169420
i dont inject my ass loser

>>77169250
hard to say bro. I almost always would assume its e2 but typically on 200 test and no AI you would be unlikely to have sky high or crashed e2. Are you pretty fat? I guess you could still have high estrogen if so.

I have done 7 day water fasts and I was fapping the whole time. Lack of calories probably isnt killing your dick

gf found my roids and i just said i don't care it's my business.

is it over for us? will i finally be able to bang trannies guilt free?

>>77169432
none of my gfs have ever cared about me using steroids. They will try to use it against you and accuse you of roid raging even when you have legitimate reasons to be pissed off but you just cant let women and their retarded childish shit get to you and youre good.

>>77169435
I only cycle like once every three years or so, it just pissed me off that she was going through my stuff.

>>77169250
>Or could it be the low calories
You're on 400 test bro, it aint the low calories. E2 causing ED in my experience is only when it's really high or really low. It's probably prolactin considering you're fucking with NPP and P5P.

>>77169266
>any crazy diet tricks other than goyslop avoidance?
NTA but you would be surprised what hard cardio can do. I avoid slop but I do drink sometimes and hard cardio like zone 3-4 for 45 min 4x per week and you can get away with anything.

>>77169442
I want to start using the stair stepper like all the old bodybuilders did but I just have this fear of it making my calves too fucking huge cause my calves are already a bit too big and I figure doing the stair stepper on a heavy cycle could make them just blow up

>>77169420
Bwc w nigger brain mogs all

>>77169444
If you're moving quick enough to peak into zone 4 you should be fine. Or just use the elliptical. Elliptical seems to be the best thing to get that hr up without muscular fatigue.

How do I become a Varbie?


I'm a boy btw

>>77169437
Yea but I didnt get any sides while I was blasting only now that I went off lol
Maybe I should have kept taking the AI and P5P longer

>>77169432
did she see the vials you can just say its for like peptides or weight loss/recovery medications. I have gaslit my gf about reta and tirz so much that if she finds my needles she will assume it's for that. but if she finds my tren/test vials I may be fucked

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>>77169420
you will join us soon enough friend

>>77169444
Do you actually think cardio on cycle is good for you? Maybe light activity every now and then but to fully tax out it just doesn’t make sense to me

I feel like health is like a car. the heart has a speedometer but also needs movement pulsation and vasodilation every now and then.

>>77169505
YWNBAV

>>77169596
I dont know I also have that fear of it just making my heart grow not just calves. But other fags swear by it being able to improve lipids

>>77169596
I do 5-12 hours of cardio (mostly biking but also cross country skiing) a week, year round, whether I’m on cycle not. Helps me stay lean and feeling good. Labs are pretty much always perfect even though I’m generally running 2 grams of gear including 19-nors. Only downside is that I have to eat like 8000 cals a day sometimes. You can just say that you’re a pussy who’s afraid of the burn.

>>77168191
>>77168370
>>77168385
>>77168470
Wise words
>>77169250
I'd bet it's the prolactin. Check the bloods

>>77169556
>Oh yeah babe, it's a peptide, you know
**ULTRA MIX 500MG/ML TESTOSTERONE TRENBOLONE DROSTHANOLONE - FOR INTRAMUSCULAR USE ONLY**

>be me
>TRT/ test c
>only 100mg week
>ED split
>1 gallon of water p day
>daily cardio
>hematocrit: 52

What's the fucking problem with my body. I tried all these meme solutions like injections ed, cardio, a lot of water.... What to do?

>>77169775
Not a phlebotomy fan. This shit is only temporary and comes back worst later

>>77167628
once you're at the 6 month point or so, there is not much of a difference between that and being on for years. however, unless you're a woman or an IFBB pro, the odds of any kind of perma shutdown are pretty much zero

>>77169596
cardio on cycle is just harm reduction, generally low intensity being more useful that hiit

>>77169822
IM NOT A SISSY LIBERAL WHO USES ZYNS WITH DYED HAIR LITTLE BOY IM NOT DOING CARDIO LIKE A GIRL

>>77165541
Shave it off bro, bitches love that shit

>>77169556
It was UGL vials that said 'ROID PLANET presents TRENBOLONE ULTRA RAPE INJECTABLE GEAR (ass administration advised)

>>77169596
>Do you actually think cardio on cycle is good for you?
Yes. Cardio on or off cycle is good for you. Roiders that do lots of intense cardio are healthier than roiders that don't.
>>77169605
Pretty much every endurance athlete has cardiomegaly. Enlarged heart is just a symptom of high blood pressure or clogged arteries. It's not an issue if it grows naturally.

>>77170026
Based.
t. Liss Cardio fan starting to hate it

>>77169775
mine's like 56 on a good day. cardio, high altitude, genetics, roidin, red meat/iron supplements all dont help

>>77169775
drinking a gallon of water a day is insane. And to see no results from it sucks.

Pretty sure I have heard that getting on telmisartan can directly lower your hematocrit but I have no idea. I cruise on 200 and my hematocrit was considered "in range" but I don't recall what it was. Does hematocrit like, level off if you dont change your dose or does it tend to just climb over time even when cruising?

>>77170123
Cardiomegaly is always an issue regardless of cause. It will stretch your SA causing atrial fibrillation, it can cause valves to pull apart and more.

>>77170304
Depends person to person. My hemo is fine even on blast. I am also on tel but haven't heard it can lower hemo.

>>77170312
grok is saying that it will typically lower your hematocrit by like .5% so its pretty weak action there. Seems really fucking dumb that blood letting is the best solution we have in the modern year. I do like to imagine that my roid blood is being used to bring some kid in a car crash back to life and giving him the power to dominate his classmates, like a superhero origin story.

>>77170321
well 1 percent which is like .5% on the percentage scale of hematocrit. This is why wallstreet fags use the term "basis points" but I cant remember how do that either cause I have tren brain

>>77170076
UGLs really should brand themselves like this if they dont. I would totally buy the rape optimized formulation of tren

>hematocrit gets worse as you get older

The hematocrit reaper is coming for all of us. We made a deal with the devil and now its time to pay up

>>77169420
Lol seething

>>77165442
got off nebivolol and boners came back, energy is better and workouts are better, i know its supposede to be an "improved" or better beta blocker but i guess it can till have those typical beta blocker side effects, thought i would share for those who are on it or considering

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>>77170429
Maybe they should call it an "alpha blocker" if it stops you from having boners and decreases your energy

>>77170306
>atrial fibrillation, it can cause valves to pull apart and more.
This is extremely rare if your cardiomegaly is from exercise.

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How should I adjust my routine now that I'm fraudding? I went from 4 to 5 days a week and now hit triceps/biceps 3x instead of 2. Any benefit to lifting 6-7x a week? More or less time between sets? Change number of reps/sets?

>>77170569
The most important thing is to not go crazy. My first blast I did PPLPPL with like 18 sets per group and I got tendon problems in my knees in and forearms. My forearm tendonitis got so bad that my arms would go numb at night and I would wake up in pain. I would say keep doing whatever worked as a natty and only add a few sets to your weak areas.

>>77170569
Opposite for me, I got stronger so I had to reduce the frequency. Learned it the hard way because I got injured.

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Just ordered this, what am I in for?

What do you guys do when you're traveling? Assuming it's just for a week I'm guessing most just pin right before travel. If it's longer, then what?

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Where can I get a preworkout with DMAA without yohimbe/yohimbine/rauwolfia vomitoria? My stash of mesomorph and jack3d finally ran dry after all these years.

>>77170812
i dont travel

>>77170847
I cannot imagine still using these terrible pre workouts when you have actual fucking steroids and its the year 2026. Grow up bro. Drink some coffee with sugar. Do some amphetimines or coke if you truly don't give a shit about your heart

>>77170857
Imagine taking beta alanine as a grown man. Literally simulated heroin withdrawal

>>77170904
imagine needing preworkout at all lol lmao

>>77170726
Are 18 sets too much? I always heard 10-20 sets are the normal range

>>77170812
Just enjoy your travel. It doesn't matter

>>77170913
18 sets is too much if you go to failure every set

>>77170913
I personally do 8 rep sets progressive overload at LEAST 5 sets to failure, usually I hit 7 or 8 before I want to go to the next excercise.

I haven't pinned for years and now I'm fat.
How effective is running just GLP + HGH?
I'm lazy and I don't want to commit to a full steroid cycle.

>>77171053
Very
The glp1 will make you starve yourself though so you'll need hormones at some point to stop the muscle loss associated with them
Cruise dose of test, hgh and a glp1 is the trifecta

>>77171109
>will make you starve yourself though so you'll need hormones at some point to stop the muscle loss associated with them
just eat food nigga lmao

muscle loss in glp1 studies comes from them being done on retarded clueless normalfaggots that continued to eat goyslop (just less) and train the same amount as they did (as in not at all)

>>77171146
To his point you're gonna have muscle loss on any respectable diet as a natty if you want to actually look ripped. Either the deficit or the <12% bodyfat will tank your t.

>>77171053
just take a low dose of trt nigga

Steroids helped me overcome my racism

Hood niggas used to intimidate me, now they don't scare me and give me friendly nods because I'm a shredded fraud. Might try to fuck the fit cute black chick at my gym.

>>77170847
I use Dark Labs they show the official resellers here
https://darklabs.pro/our-partners/

>>77165442
How to get rid of heart palpitations on deca?

>>77171263
ignore it and hope it doesn't get worse.

>>77171263
Max effort cardio
Gotta shock the system, confuse the heart muscle

>>77171053
My personal advice would be to not use HGH. Just go with the GLP.

Bodybuilders mostly take HGH for injury prevention and modest boosts to recovery and some appetite increases. It’s really not that good and I think it ages your face more than just roids personally.

>>77171375
Where'd you hear hgh ages your face?
Being overly lean does for sure, bodybuilder show prep lean makes them look like death
They nuke collagen and any natural fat storage for the shredded look
HGH actually increases collagen synthesis and coupled with moderate test doses which thicken your skin(reduces wrinkles), make you look younger
It's one of the things that start being produced less around 30 and lead to slower metabolism, worse nutrient partitoning, thinner old lady skin prone to wrinkles etc
If anything it's required to look young

>>77171452
Something about the skin literally growing will make you look older or it’s just super mild acromegaly. When I see Joe Rogan I think that’s what 20 years straight of using hgh has done. Small sample size and everything but I’m not the only person who thinks this.

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I’ve decided to hop on, boys.
>36 years boomer
>5’11 and 180lbs
>250 test/200 NPP
I’m going to push to 200lbs. I don’t think I can get to 200lbs naturally without getting fat. I front loaded deca/test at 500/400 last week and did my first 125/100 injection Monday and will do another tomorrow.

Thoughts?

>>77171502
god bless and gains be upon you

>>77171502
I think I’ve seen this photo a million times. I also think you are too old for 4chan, grandpa.

>>77171349
Hahaha (I actually laughed).

>>77171506
I’ve been posting on /fit/ since 2010, newfag. This has been, and always will be, a BOOMER website.

And there’s no way you could’ve seen this photo “a million” times, as I’ve just taken it today. I’ve also stolen one of your women; how does that make you feel, kiddo? :^)

>>77171502
You should really be injecting every day for less sides, lower e2 and more stable blood levels but NPP in particular should be pinned at least 3x a week. Otherwise, good luck you’ll probably get sick gains with that stack. Why frontload deca if you’re running npp though? I know they’re the same compound but it’s pretty weird. Why not just frontload the test and npp?

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How long do you think until we can buy this drug on the blackmarket to teeth fraud?

>>77171618
I keep hearing this but I genuinely do not want pinning to be a daily routine YET, im happy with E3D currently but that might change in the future.

>>77165442
sup niggas What do we think about liver support?
I've never taken any because I've never done anything too hard but I'm thinking about bulking a little with some dbol capsules I have left over. 25mg/day. I do some social drinking on the weekends nowadays too, though I'm not particularly keen about it
TUDCA's overkill right? maybe some NAC or milk thistle is what I was thinking

>>77171705
I have and never will support my organs who quit on me. No need for those beta pussy organs I need KILLERS.

>>77171171
you can get to 11 or even 10% with no muscle loss naturally
it just requires a very good diet and different training

below 10% for like 90+% of people their t will go down and they will most likely lose some mass

>>77171684
I hope I will be able to regrow all my teeth within a decade but I have plans if technology doesn't advance that far

Is this lower back pump shit caused by estrogen?

>estrogen induces lordosis in high concentrations
>high doses of test and dbol cause significant back pumps

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>>77171736
My teeth are fucked from heavy lifting and grinding in my sleep. I bite super hard when I wake up or lift, my body just naturally emits pressure. The result is after years and years tons of chips and cracks. I'm hoping gene hackers with CRISPR get us that gene that gives you 8 times bone density at the same time as the teeth regrowth drug is formed. I'd love to have 8 times bone density, but also regrow my teeth teeth that dense. I'd be like Roronoa Zoro and start lifting weights with my teeth.

>>77171756
lay off the dbol, pal
>>77171757
based
I'm excited what pharmaceuticals they can come up with, I mean I wasn't expecting melanotan to be a thing and yet it exists, glp1s were also a huge thing
teeth and hair have to be next

I'm hungry as fuck all the time on cycle even tho I've been on sema for 6 months. Last year I was much less hungry without sema. What's happening?

>>77171757
Same, i have perfect front teeth, but missing teeth from sides because of grinding

>>77171906
Would you believe me if I told you I think I just cracked my tooth while flirting online?

So mast does absolutely nothing right?

>>77172135
BUT GLEEP GLORPO ON TIKTOK SAID ITS THE HECKIN BESTERINO

>>77165442
any places to find source info on peptides? I want to try pinealon but either its 500$ for 2 pills, or 30$ for 50 pills.

>>77171692
I pin on all 5 week days and take saturday and sunday off. It sounds kind of retarded but I think it works great. When you pin frequently enough you can do it subq instead of into muscle which means no scar tissue and smaller needles and it almost never bleeds or gives you any problems. Highly recommend.

>cutting on 200mg of test cruise does

how much of a difference does it make in your opinion? I feel like I am losing weight a little faster but its hard for me to say at this point

>>77172135
>masteron in this economy

I feel like they probably just sold you test prop or highly diluted tren or something kek

>>77172166
No it's mast I bought it a long time ago. I guess I'm a bit drier but no strength gains.

>>77172155
It doesn't do shit for cutting. It just helps you retain muscle. If anything test just makes me hungrier.

>>77172148
I should… I just don’t want to switch it up mid cruise and other excuses I can’t think of right now, maybe a week before blast I will grab some slins.

>>77171618
Oopsie, I made a mistake. I meant NPP. I am not using deca. But you know what man? I like the e3d idea. It’s not going to be as “exact” but I will give it a shot as it seems to be the current meta.

Thanks breh

>>77172135
>makes you feel good
>reduces bloat and makes you appear leaner
>reduces high e2 sides without needing an AI

>>77172324
so its like primobolan for poor people?

>>77172330
Pretty much interchangeable yes. I prefer primo because it's easier on my lipids and acne. It is 3x the price though

>>77172324
>>77172330
some anon here said it makes you horny which is a plus in my book

>>77172266
How do you recover your natural T production after a NPP or Deca cycle?

>>77171502
Everything is good except

>NPP on first cycle and not just Test
>Pinning 2x a week instead of EOD

Trust me on that. Guess it's too late though and you threw a 19-nor in on your first cycle like a fucking retard. Still wishing you the best of luck boomer anon.

>>77172386
I’ll just cruise for a while. Ez pz. I’m not trying for kids for another couple years, gotta marry my qt3.14 and finish college first :)

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>>77172401
>like a fucking retard
RUDE. My logic here is keeping the test higher than NPP to avoid prolactin issues and deca dick while utilizing NPP mainly for the connective tissue support and because of the fact that it doesn’t aromatize so that I will avoid most of the issues caused by excess e2, hopefully not needing an AI at all while still keeping to the ~500mg of androgens a week that is the standard for a first cycle.
>not pinning EOD
Is 3x/wk okay? I’m not sure what EOD would look like as far as measuring the oils. The test and NPP are dosed at 250mg/mL and 100mg/mL respectively.

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>>77172402
>for a while
So, cruise for a couple years?

Is caber required for tren? I know from other blasts that I'm not prone to gyno and I'd prefer to not buy another bottle of pills I'll never use

>>77172330
Yes, some people think it has more sides than primo due to primo being more expensive and thinking more expensive = better :^)

>>77172413
>hopefully not needing an AI at all

bro this is not the way. When you dick doesn't work you will come ask us if you have high e2, or if its deca dick, or if its a prolacin issue. We will tell you we dont know and call you a retard for not just taking test only on your first cycle.

everyone tells you to do test so that you can figure out if you need AI and dial in how much AI you need. Then once you have done this you throw in your deca on top.

>>77172446
That’s a meme, just because metabolites stay in the system doesn’t mean they exert the same effects on the HPTA as the active compound.

But even if that’s true, yeah. That’s what I’ll do :)
>>77172431
I don’t understand what this means so I’m gonna go ahead and assume you’re being a snarky faggot

>>77172540
I’ve done my homework, anon. I’m well aware of the risks and I made the conscious decision to roll the dice with NPP sides instead of high test/e2 sides.

I’ll get bloodwork done next month to see where I’m at. I wouldn’t come here to ask for advice anyway because you guys tend to be fucking retards (no offense) who give bad advice. I’ll fall on my own sword, always have and always will. Simple as.

>>77172413
>gets upset at being called a retard
>can’t do simple math or operate a calculator

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>>77172413
>hopefully not needing an AI at all while still keeping to the ~500mg of androgens a week that is the standard for a first cycle.

No, the standard cycle is 500mg test for a reason, and once again you're trying to reinvent the wheel. Doing a 19-nor in addition to test on your first cycle is actually retarded, not rude. You're throwing in so many variables in the mix without knowing how your body even reacts to test. Sorry man, you're NGMI.

>>77171375
Jesus, shut up

>>77171734
Kek

>>77172413
You avoid deca dick with a DHT, testo won't help (a lot) you

>>77172771
Also you look like really dumb and clearly don't know about steroids.

>>77172413
>I don't know what eod means
Jesus why normies want to corrupt my junkie passion

>>77172540
This.
Also go study the wiki you fucking imbecile. WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO PAINFULLY DUMB AND LAZY.

Fraud still hasn't learned to just let retards fail. Sad. At least we're getting variety and not the usual guy that's upset we don't endorse his 4 week oral only cycle.

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>>77172742
Nobody ever got anywhere listening to you retards lmao. Post body.
>>77172771
>>77172774
You avoid deca dick by running more test than deca. Everybody knows this. Post body.
>>77172666
How do you MEASURE 86.66mg or 66.66mg in a syringe, retard?
>>77172779
Can you not read? I asked what EOD would look like if the goal is 250mg and 200mg/wk. Twice a week is easy
>>77172788
Faggot retard gatekeeping steroids lmao. Post body. I’m sure you look amazing :)
>>77172798
>nooooo somebody’s doing something that isn’t the thing we NEED everybody to do by doing a super reasonable cycle instead!
Test is shit for putting on mass. More test = more sides. I’m simply going from A to C, skipping B because it’s redundant.

You guys are somehow worse than women. Perhaps your estrogen is all really high, maybe take some AI. I seriously doubt most of you even take steroids.

>>77172856
wait why does his arm look like that

Anything for hairmaxxing? Already on fina and mino. My chink has GHK-Cu. Worth giving it a try?

>>77172876
>his

>>77172914
aaaah

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>>77172901
fuck off until that foofoo shit gives you gyno then you can come back and ask for help

>>77172876
they build her a fake dick from the arm flesh. Yes its bigger than your dick too chud. But no it doesn't actually get hard or do anything useful other than give the tranny a massive bulge.

>>77172554
>I’ve done my homework, anon. I’m well aware of the risks and I made the conscious decision to roll the dice with NPP sides instead of high test/e2 sides.
Lol
Lmao
Even

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>>77172798
You're absolutely right. I won't answer it anymore.

>>77171801
have you been increasing your sema dosage every month? i've heard you can get used to this stuff too. try swapping in tirz

>>77172147
just find a place that sells it, then google reviews for it. if there isn't a million posts about it, it's fake

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>>77172975
>condescending, catty reply
Classic
>>77172978
It’s hilarious. You fags act like you’re part of some elite, secret society. Using steroids is brainlessly easy, literal 70iq morons are able to successfully juice.

The best part is this: nobody has been able to make any coherent point about why what I’ve decided to do is wrong. It just boils down to
>you just.. you just CANT, okay! Why? I just told you! It’s because you CANT DO IT THAT WAY!

It’s just retards parroting other retards at this point.
>no bodies posted
>no vials posted
I’d bet my left nut that /fraud/ has been overtaken by Indians. Indians, being the true subhumans that they are, are wholly incapable of facilitating individual thought processes or unique opinions, so they defer to whatever the most popular opinion is and then militantly defend it.

It’s hilarious. Using steroids isn’t rocket surgery, and the fact that yall have your panties in a bunch over such a basic bitch, tiny 450mg cycle is wild.

What’s gonna happen to me, guys? What’s going to happen to me on this first cycle that would be totally avoided by doing a 500mg test cycle first THEN this cycle?

Wait until you find out what my routine is :)

is glp1forum a good place for sourcing?

some of the posters there seem retarded but then again so do a lot of people here

>>77172856
> How do you MEASURE 86.66mg or 66.66mg in a syringe, retard?
Literally just get close enough. Dosages aren’t really all that serious. It’s not like if you pin 70 mg and 90 mg your dick is gonna fall off

>>77167628
Many have come off and recovered just fine. See Pete rubish on YouTube

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>>77173111
there is like 1 legit source website that everyone uses and that aint it homie

>>77173111
>>77173232
It's glp1.4chan.org. but you have to buy a 4chan pass to access it.

>>77173111
It's okay. As in the sources and reviews tend to be legit and scammers or poor test results get called out. If you look any thread there where it mentions low testosterone people will name drop the better site. I'd put it here but narcs cry everytime

What’s the perfect lazy slob bulking stack to put on mass and gains? I do not wan’t to eat clean, I will hit protein and calories mainly, don’t care about fat or sodium etc. I will continue working out my splits but higher intensity and more weight. I don’t care to keep lean but would prefer 17% BF at most. Cardio included. All my current ideas on combos are more for lean dry gains, but I want to stay mildly meaty.

>>77173512
DNP and Tren

Other than lipids, any issues with cranking anavar into the sky? like 70mg - 100mg?

>>77173536
you will get TOO MUCH pussy
>t. 75mg runner

>>77173537
fuck yeah lets gooooooooo

>>77173512
test/mast or test/primo
you aren't ready for shit like tren
go heavy on the mast or primo because you sound fat and you will be aromatizing like a motherfucker, so much so most of these folks would say "you are too fat to do roids" but you still can I promise

>>77173555
I am 15% rn and have already did a cycle of tren I just want to be lazy.

>>77173557
just cruise on test
throw in some hcg if your body responds well to it

>>77173077
Yeah you do sound like a nice guy. You need to remember you're here on 4chan, we are all miserable and sarcastic all the time.
At the end of the day you do whatever you want to do. We or anywhere else don't care. Go ahead and tell us then the results.

I'm lazy and didn't read all but I beg to point one thing:
Always ED pins. I do think it's vastly superior than EOD, but EOD is preferable than MWF or 2x week. I know these ones are more comfy, but stable levels are way better than a mini hormonal flood in your bloodstream.

>>77173317
>>77173232
are you talking about mesorx? it's just a forum not a vendor, and it's been mentioned many times here.

the gpl1 crowd seem more intelligent and cautious. the roiders generally don't give a fuck about their health and seem to be okay with low quality untested product.

>>77171757
Yeah same, I had a period of candylifting where I'd use 0.2 mdma as pre and althought the gains were UNREAL, especially gym social gains, I got so many cracked teeth.

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>>77173923
This guy probably have the worst response to steroids ever considered

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>>77173930
His abs genes are dogshit but his physique was pretty nice a few years ago before he dialed down. Can't really blame him teebeeh. Guy has a $100m company so longevity is more of a priority.

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Is reverse pyramid training good for frauds?

I miss alcohol. Can I take rec drugs or will they too fuck up my liver?

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>>77173947
Kinobody is a double fraud. Not only is he a fake natty but he lied about getting ripped doing RPT only 3x a week to build his channel and brand. He's like the roided out crossfit athletes who claim they got yoked doing half push ups.

>>77173939
lol from how he talks it’s all about his hair. Which I find funny because when you have all that money you could just get a transplant or perfectly crafted hair pieces that are undetectable

>>77173964
Who gives a fuck about your liver. Livers are very strong and can recover from a lot of abuse. I found it morbidly hilarious that my alcoholic dad has perfectly good liver values and my slightly overweight mom has fatty liver disease. Some people just have strong livers and some don’t imo. You can just test your shit if you are really worried but yeah I have gotten drunk and taken hand fulls of Vicodin and all kinds of shit that should destroy my liver and it’s fine I guess I got the liver genes from dad. He told me he was proud of me once. Fucking prick

>>77173994
He wasn't always rich

Should I deload while on a pussy 12 week 350 test 6week var cycle?

>>77173939
>Guy has a $100m company
you cannot be this gullible

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>>77174003
If you need to yes

>>77173994
He started balding pretty young. If you have lots of money hair doesn't really matter unless you're younger than like 25.

>>77173536
var caps out at 60mg ed. benefits don't increase past that. you're wasting it

>>77173717
meso has actual doctors on it, and people who have been roiding longer than you have been alive. it's not some mom run facebook group full of cunts shrieking I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH!!!! meso has their steroid underground subforum that is literally all sources. each thread in there is a different source. if you didn't see that, you cant read, and shouldnt use any of this shit. leave now

Thoughts on Melanotan?

I looked online and people said it causes cancer and moles.

>>77174092
if you have moles already, it will bring more of them to the surface.

>>77174019
thanks for confirming you are gullible

>>77174041
lmao unc is rattled

i post on meso myself and was just comparing it to a quick browse of gpl1 threads

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>>77174092
It's fuckin awesome. Just started using it. This is with only a little sun/tanning and 200mg a day. Only been using for like 2 weeks lol.

>>77165442
My gf is kyrgyz and we went to Almaty this year. Based country.

Can I use low dose glp1 on a bulk too?
I always overdo my bulks and end up dirty bulking to 25-30% bf

>>77174263
NIGGA JUST EAT LESS

>>77174146
Are you using Melanotan 1 or 2 ?

>>77174423
2
Too many people say 1 is too weak

>>77174146
Is it true it makes you horny? I have heard mt2 does this which is pretty dope.

I already naturally tan pretty easily but I think when I go bald in the future I will darkmaxx because for whatever reason, the darker you are the less bad being bald is. Pale+bald=cancer patient

>>77174432
It doesn't seeeemingly mess with my libido because I am already so horny from 300mg test and 150mg primo, but it makes my dick work better, and I get a lot of random boners now lol

My girlfriends pussy is getting destroyed all the time anyway already

>>77174263
fuck yeah bro. Hoenstly I use the maximum dose of ozempic on a bulk. It allows me to truly eat as much as I want and it comes to like 2700 calories or whatever. What a blessed drug

>>77174037
>>77173923
Isn't this the context of monotherapy? I'm talkin about runnning gear son.

>>77174440
Purely test/primo? No AI or cialis for bp or pumps?

Do roiders get cysts at their pinning sites?

I remember a detransitioning woman crying about being hospitalized and bedridden twice, in a short succession, from having cyst removals and I think she pinned somewhere in the side of her ass or thigh.

You can also get tendon shortening from it, right? I really don't get why patches aren't the dominant form for this sort of thing.

>>77174510
Nope. Sometimes subQ will give bumps if you use that spot too much but that can generally be avoided if you massage the injection spot after you pin it.

>>77174501
I use Cialis often actually, but I've chilled out because apparently with MT2 and the boners I get, it can make them painful lmao

Primo is my AI bro, don't wanna take oral AIs. Primo allows me to dial in the amount of E2 I want much more granularly.

>>77174642
>mt2 for boners
I'm intrigued. Redpill me on mt2. How do I use it for boners? How long does it take to kick in?

>>77174501
Nta but I think taking cialis as a matter of course is one of the more retarded things roiders do. If you are on a good amount of test you are going to be getting huge pumps you don’t need a fucking boner pill for pumps. And noticing that you are getting weaker boners or whatever is the earliest warning sign that your e2 ain’t right. But if you are just cruising cialis you won’t detect this. And most importantly cialis doesn’t do shit if your dick is already working good. Maybe it will help you cum twice in a row or whatever but chill out, eat a sandwich, come back for round two it’s okay to have a break.

This is a weird one but I need some advice from actual junkies. My brother asked my opinion on if he should start using gear. He's been training for years, he's huge, lean and has hit his natural limit according to him. He's also an insanely insecure person, which has driven him to do some pretty great things with his life, but I'm worried if he goes through with it it'll be for the wrong reasons. He's not an athlete, newly married, has a baby, and I don't see any reason for him to start.

I know it's ass backwards to ask this in a fraud thread but do any of you have advice on how I can dissuade him?

Thanks for reading my blog post, god bless

>>77174440
>300 test 150 primo
Isn't primo weak in such low doses? Why even take it if you're not doing the opposite instead (300 primo 150 test)?

>>77174685
If he's done having kids let him have some fun. It's a *relatively* healthy drug assuming he has all of his other shit in order and keeps an eye on his bloodwork. Now, that advice assumes he is reasonably insecure, like a self-aware kind of insecure. If you think he will be happy with his physique after a few test, test+dbol/deca blasts it's whatever. The danger really is that your perception of yourself changes with your body and you always want more. If you lose control you'll end up going psycho mode with harsher compounds. Just be honest with him about your concerns, don't shame him, and if he asks for advice, remind him that his perception of himself is just that: his perception. And that doesn't always line up with reality.

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>>77173691
Thanks for the actual advice. Pinning ED just ain’t gonna happen.. but how’s this sound?
>total of250 test/200 NPP weekly
>EOD 1/4 of a mL test (~62.5mg) and 1/2mL NPP (~50mg)

I was sort of obsessing about the fact that you can’t get the exact same amounts every week due to the fact that there are an odd number of days in a week, but it’ll all come out in the wash at the end so long as it’s EOD and it’s consistent.

>>77174750
Nobody who knows anything is going to sign off on nandrolone on your first cycle. Just do it if you’re gonna do it prove us wrong

>>77172901
switch to dut
ghkcu is for skin gains not for hair

is the biggest benefit of gh that i can do 33 sets per week per muscle instead of 22? does it do anything else?

What frag did the frauds wear today

SOTD Chypre Palatin

>>77175077
old spice Cool Rush

>>77175071
enlarges your heart and accelerates cancer growth

>>77175077
What deodorant do you guys use? The crappy gel one I use only lasts 2-3 hours and the white chalky ones stain my shirts.

>>77175105
but enough about Testosterone!

>>77174685
Tell him to try Enclomiphene instead. There's no risk of it messing him up and it will likely give him some moderate gains.

Enclomiphene is what pro athletes actually use if they are fortunate enough to know their drug testing schedules, because it has a short half life and provides genuine benefits with few downsides or risks.

>>77175261
Certain Dri if you're talking about sweat but otherwise just get some sort of cologne.

>>77175269
I started with enclo and then started taking more shit. It gets you better results than natty for sure but it's not going to make you that much bigger. It's why everyone here tells people to hop on test. If he can resist the temptation then it's a solid nearly natty option.

>>77175261
anti pers is great idk how much you apply but even on black shirts mine dont stain >>77175081
dont fall for the cologne bait its for eurotrash

>>77175261
Mitchum

>>77172413
you can pin NPP with trt levels of test, zero sides

christ now what's going on? china's fucked again. ongoing from last year, or new thing? not gonna be any manufacturers left by next year at this rate

>>77175881
ya we arent in the golden age no mo

>>77175309
>Certain Dri i


The roll on gel or white chalky shit?

>>77176071
Roll on, it's a clear wet liquid and dries almost instantly. It's high strength too so it should not only not leave residue but stop you from sweating better than most other antiperspirants.

>>77174146
do you mean 200mcg? 200mg sounds like way too much

>>77176166
Yes sorry lol

>>77174708
Because it makes me vascular and dry, but I mostly use it for E2 control. I am cruising on this. Primo allows me to dial in my E2 very accurately unlike oral AIs.

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>>77174921
I am doing it and have been for a couple weeks. So far so good. I’m not you f tk get sides from such a small amount of NPP, I would bet my girlfriends life on it.

People get sides from nandrolone at the 400-600mg ranges, some guys run 100mg NPP as TRT+.

As far as routine, I ran a 10x10 last year. Five days a week, one compound per day, and I had some great gains which was surprising but the main point of the experiment was to try to strengthen my connective tissue for this cycle so I can really push myself. Since the gains were so good, I’m going to modify the routine a bit but still keep the structure almost identical. I’m doing 5x10 so I can push heavier weights, but I’m adding some accessories.
>MONDAY
5x10 barbell OHP
3x12-15 lateral raises
3x12-15 French press
1xF rope push downs (starting at a weight where I fail at reps 8-10 then drop weight until failure again, repeat until stack is depleted)
>TUESDAY
5x10 front squat (narrow stance w heels elevated in a plate)
3x15-20 lying hamstring curl
1xF seated quad extension (same scheme as tricep push downs)
>WEDNESDAY
6x10 plate loaded horizontal row (alternating between wide and narrow grips)
3x10-12 ez bar preacher curl
2xF hammer curls
>THURSDAY
5x10 Bulgarian split squats (hamstring/glute focus, superset with behind the back barbell wrist curls)
>3x12-15 lying leg curl
1xF seated had extension (burnout set like on Tuesday)
>FRIDAY
5x10 barbell bench press, superset with strict neutral grip pull-ups (pull-ups are bodyweight to failure)
1xF strict lat pulldown (probated grip, burnout set starting with heavy weight and dropping each time I hit failure)
1xF plate loaded flies (burnout set same as pulldown)

My body is ready. My mind is willing. My calves will never grow, so I will not train them. I believe this routine will give me the volume necessary for growth, as that’s the goal, with enough intensity to balance it out.

What's the tren sweet spot?

>>77176671
200-300mg weekly desu

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>>77174750
Nothing we say will convince you otherwise, and you'll end up resentful of people saying the opposite of what you want to do lol
That said, it's alright, go ahead. Have some p5p (before thinking of cabergoline) if you need it, some DIM and Zync before AI (exemestane > anastrazole). If starting to think you're wife is cheating on you stop the npp lol, it's just the 19nor showing off.
NPP isn't watery as Deca for some people, but I would check electrolytes, mainly potassium,to avoid bloating... Etc etc etc
May God bless you and your cycle anon

>>77175105
>enlarges your heart
No
>and accelerates cancer growth
Only if you already have cancer (too tired to deeply write about it)

What finasteride dose do yall take? Currently in middle of a blast and plan on crusining 150mg long term.

>>77176769
I don't.

>>77176913
ok

>>77175881
People have been saying raw production is about to be shut down in China since I started roiding. So about 6 years ago. I’ll believe it when I see it.

>>77176769
1 mg/d

>>77175262
fuck you

>>77176769
Pretty much everyone takes 1mg I think.

Whoever the anon was that suggested glycopyrrolate for hyperhydrosis I fucking love you. 2mg twice a day and I am in heaven. Hands aren’t dripping while holding my mouse, working out, or in bed. Chest sweat is minimal so the waifu surely will be happy about me not dripping everywhere. Amazing online 2 minute dermo symptoms questionnaire and then I had a 3 month script in 18h, delivered to my door in 3 days. Truly a wonderful oral compound.

So the chinks supplying the Test C, Test P, Test base, tren A, tren E and proviron got shut down now.

We're about to go from gear shortage to gear famine

>>77177171
nice digits but I don't buy it. are you hanging out in China right now with your ear to the ground?
price increases in the near future? certainly. but not a famine.
peptide prices are going to keep going up as well.

>>77177182
there will likely be big price increases of the basics now like test.
test e is already scarce, but at least cypionate & prop was plentiful.

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>>77171757
Teeth aren't bone though.

>>77175077
based

Why do ppl take hgh or peptides on top of trt? Is test enough to cruise if you’re just an average joe?

>>77177850
Synergy
trt is the gateway drug to full on frauding, fr fr no cap unc