>eat well>whole foods only>gaining weightCICO is Jewish and a scam. Fuck this shit dude.
But bro termomechanics or whatever i dont know im cicotranny midwit
>>77165973Small sample size, you could be losing fat still but have more literal shit and water in you
Tell us how many calories you eat and how you calculated your necessary calorie deficit, not that you eat "whole foods" you fat fucking retard
>>77166358So i take it CICO is a meme
>>77166377How would you come to that conclusion even remotely
>>77166474It's well known that obesity negatively impacts intelligence.Doubly unfortunate as there is also a high correlation of being lower intelligence and having the genes that make putting the fork down harder.
>>77166479So are you just not going to answer the question
>>77165973In addition to weighing everything properly I also made certain to always have consistent environmental for my weigh ins. Like the day before the weigh-in I'd eat light to make sure my stomach was clear. I'd go to the bathroom just prior to weighing in. that type of stuff to ensure there wasn't anything throwing off the measurement like bloating from drinking the night before or having had a cheat meal
>>77165973CICO does work, you're just eating too many calories. Also, you shouldn't expect major changes in a week, measure your weight for a month and look at the weekly average. That will give you a better trend.
>>771659736 lbs in 2 days is water weight. Eating actual food and not sodium and sugar will do that. It's not water stored in your bladder but water stored in your entire body. Probably also bloating/gas in the intestinal tract.You saw the scale go down which is great and lost the will to keep going, diet went back to high sodium, shit foods and your body started storing water, fat again.Next time, track your shit. Find your tdee, wat like 500 below whatever it says and walk 15k steps a day
CICO works, but you have to be at least competent enough to understand what you need to be doing and how to adjust your diet accordingly
>>77166499>drinking the night before>cheat mealI think we got to the bottom of this one
>>77166474>>77166479So you concede that CICO is pseudoscience, ok good to know
>>77166637fatoids hate cico because it removes any ambiguity on why they're not losing weight. they want something more complicated so they can cope and obfuscate while they continue shoving their fat FUCKING gullets full of le healthy food. yes opie, very good they're you're eating whole foods only. now start eating less and less of it until you start losing weight.
>>77166648I didn't ask. Its a meme. Chill.
CICO works. Count your sauces and oils. Stop drinking. Stop fluctuating more than 100 calories per day. Your weigh in protocols sound consistent, CICO works but TDEE estimation without real data doesn’t. Cut the calories more. Fatoid cope is unreal. “Eating less food doesn’t make you lose weight”. Really? Understand that even when you begin a deficit your body will make adaptations to try to preserve body weight and your maintenance calories will drop. It does not want to use your fat stores. It wants homeostasis. It will go like this for most people. Make 200-300 calorie adjustments at a time.>eat less>lose weight>weight loss stalls>eat even less>lose weight
>>77166761>the body would rather reduce important life functions (maintenance) than use fat storage it has prepared specifically for a famine scenarioAccording to you our body is retarded
>>77166768I don’t mean blinking or breathing retard, I mean NEAT. Shit like pacing and leg bouncing.
>>77166772That’s just not even gonna account for 100 calories
>>77166776https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17697152/
>>77165973>>eat well>>whole foods onlyok but how many calories?
>>77166790Shhhh
>>77165973>massive fat pig can't grasp CICOlike clockwork
CICO is stupid.By that logic you have can 20 sodas daily and maintain weight. It's like beer, your body digests different food differently. It's like the pyramid. Holy shit, people need to stop falling for the same bullshit.
>>77166799i was going to post body while validating cico, then realized you're not worth it.
>>77166794many such cases.
>>77166768>prepared specifically for a famine scenario>reduce important life functions than use fat storagewut?
>>77165973If anything that proves "healthy" "whole" foods aren't actually good for you.
>>77166799You're retarded. You can absolutely have 20 sodas and maintain weight. Look up the twinkie diet. Not the meme diet plan, but the guy who actually ate just sweet ultra processed foods and still lost weight.Yes, your body digests different foods differently. A.k.a. things have different caloric values.Holy shit, stop being a coping retard, you fucking fatass.
>>77165973Your weight starts with 3. Your opinion on CICO is worthless.
>>77165973The only Whole Foods are meat, eggs and milk. You were likely eating cattle feed like cereals and oils which are used to fatten up livestock.
>>77166377It is a meme, yes, until you start doing calorimetry on your poo but nobody actually does that
>>77165973Your fat and retarded, you have to be eating a fuckload to not lose shit at 350 lbs. Post your stats, what your tdee is, how much your deficit is, etc. If your deficit is right your not logging your food correctly and overeating. You cant cheat the math fatty. Your supposed to log EVERYTHING, sauces, cooking oils, drinks everything. If you arent a dumbass and dont cheat your diet it works. You've done it for a week and your already being retarded and giving up.
>>77167014>your already being retarded and giving up.You're*
>>77166875So the guy who ran ray peat aka extremely high carb moderate fat/low relative to carbs aka prevented randle cycle while consuming very volatile energy that's (mostly) easy to digest lost weight despite being on caloric surplus ?Wow CICO vindicated it's over for conspiracy theorists
>>77167024>despite being on caloric surplusHe was on a caloric deficit you retard, that was the entire point.
CICO is a principle, all weight loss methods are CICO.
>>77165973Broccoli and farm raised beef isnt going to make you lose weight fatso just eat less
>>77167063Wrong, the principle is "eat less/eat more". CICO is both an oversimplification meaning that it reduces everything to a unit you cannot accurately measure, neither before ingestion nor accounting for digestion, not in a million year AND a way to make it complicated specifically because you'll be counting and measuring shit when your eyes judgement is all you need if you have an iq of >100It's the perfect midwit trap
>>77167075Eat less what? Eat more what?Calories dipshit. You're adding layers of dumbed down abstraction for no reason. One brownie is "less" food than multiple bowls of no dressing salads but it'll make you a hell of a lot fatter.
>>77167019Pedantic faggot
>>77165973Anytime someone says they aren't losing weight cutting caloires always come down to the either of the following>lying to yourself about what you're eatingor>overestimating your portionsI've been eating whole foods since November and went from 210 to 190. I don't count calories. I am going slow too because at some points I treat myself to something, I can't go 100% because then I'll break. But I eat way less overall and that affords me to get a cone of ice cream once a week with my girlfriend. So stop lying to yourself, calculate your TDEE, and actually portion your food
>>77166768Yes, that's the gist of it. Body really is retarded, that's why it's hard for lose weight and it requires consistency.I really like what Scooby said about this"It took you years to gain this weight, it won't take weeks to lose it"
>>77166789Wtf? DELETE THIS
>>77165973CICO is a scam, but try some of the weird new w8 loss supplements u probably think r Jewish scams; I bulked on several recently, barely gaining any fat.
>>77167087Calories an arbitrary unit of measure, it's no different than measuring your own height in potatoes. Except that your height can be quantified meanwhile your body is both a black box and open thermodynamic system
10 times out of 10, people complaining about CICO fail to track accurately what they're actually eating. considering the fact you're over 300lbs, i'm willing to bet that's the case. also it's normal that weight fluctuates. if you stick to your diet, a downward trend should occur even if some days there are some weight increases
>>77166812Sure you were
anon learns that losing weight is not linear
>>77167287Yeah bro track minuscule photons and how the body deals with them
>don't even have any type of diet apart from consuming a lot of proteins>literally eat whatever>and I mean literally whatever>drink soda often>drink energy drinks>eat twice a day a considerable amount>don't even calculate calorie intake or anything similar>keep losing weightIt has been this way for a long time now. I was weighing 76 kilos and now I'm down to 73 kilos. It makes no sense. I don't even do any type of cardio exercises either, I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.
>>77166373When OP says "whole foods", he means he eats the "whole" food, and never leaves leftovers
>>77168062I think his weight suggests that you are on to something.
>>77165973have you tried counting calories lol?
>>77168758Have you tried counting the dicks in your throat?
>>77168818Triggered fatso
>>77165973Lol why are u even mad. U should track your calories then weigh in like once a week and don't pay attention if ur sht is fked still after a month it's u not water weight. People just want results RIGHT NOW which just leads to hell.
>>77171112So you're saying cico is flawed and stupid
>>77171123no anon, he's saying you are flawed and stupid.
>>77171123Nah, anon is saying that progress takes time, and consistency. If you were sculpting a statue from marble would you chip a couple pieces off and complain about how it doesn’t look right? Enjoy the process, build good habits and try to find exercise that isn’t just in a gym. Social programs are beneficial because it breaks up the monotony of it. >Don’t actually listen to me, I’m an out of shape, borderline alcoholic/schizo. I come here to try to fill my existence in life by killing the hours away, alone and brain rotting until I die.
>>77165973It astounds me how reliably cico works.It sucks, I hate cutting. But I do it and the weight comes off exactly as it should.Only people with no willpower or discipline complain about weight loss being complicated
>>77168048Cancer, or retard
>>77165973>Be fat>Can't diet properly >CICO is a scamOk fatty
weigh once a week
>>77171151So there is things to consider outside of plain calories and fat burning, like water retention, metabolism change due to multiple factors, foods being more obesogenic than others regardless of their calorie content etcOk thanks.Glad we agree that CICO is pseudoscience
For the people that cico isnt working for are you sedentary or do you exercise?
>>77171277There are nuances to everything. But if you take a look at some examples like the Twinkie diet, McDonalds diet, objectively dogshit nutrition and the individuals lost weight on said diets. Albeit, there was nothing from these “ experiments” looking at general health markers other than weight. But, overall there was weight loss. >tldr sufficient caloric restriction causes weight loss.
>>77171188>its astounding that math, the most primal form of irreducible logic works
>>77171366>For the people that cico isnt working
Back in the green boys
>>77172055Based improver
>>77165973Fat retard can't do basic math
