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I’m an on-and-off exerciser with a good build and I want to take steroids. How do I begin this process, like what gear should I purchase, what dosage should I start out with, etc? Please keep moralfaggotry to a minimum because I don’t care
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this disgusting woman doesn't make my dick throb. my bros do.
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lurk moar. You don't want to fuck with steroids without understanding the necessary endocrinology. This is serious shit and you are going to grow tits or become infertile because you are retarded
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>>77166694
I really do find her build gross. Just not for me at all. Though she probably does look a lot better from the back
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>>77166697
>without understanding the necessary endocrinology
I’m willing to learn
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>>77166679
Unironically leddit r/steroids wiki
Just the wiki though, the sub is typical useless echo chamber shit
That's the only good info from the fraud thread here 2bh, I just shitpost in it to fuck with zoomers doing 200mg test "blasts"
Finally, not on moral grounds but half assing workouts isn't how you want to start roiding
Get serious THEN start injecting chinese bathtub hormones(perfectly safe btw)
>t. friendly neighborhood roidtranny nigger
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>what gear should I purchase
Testosterone enanthate. Not propionate, not cyponate, not sustanon, enanthate. You should purchase four 10mL vials doses at 250mg/mL.

You should buy 18g syringes and 25g syringe tips. The smaller the gauge, the bigger the needle; 18g needles are big enough to draw oil into the syringe easily and 25g is small enough to not cause scar tissue but also large enough to inject oil easily.

You also need to purchase Exemestane (aromatase inhibitor), tamoxifen citrate (SERM in case of gyno and for post cycle therapy), and enclomiphene citrate (for post cycle therapy, it gets your nuts working again).

***DO NOT BUY STEROIDS UNTIL YOU HAVE ALL THREE ANCILLARY DRUGS***

>how much should I use
You should use 500mg of testosterone split into two 250mg doses bi-weekly, like Monday/thursday or whatever. OR you could do 150mg injections 3x weekly for more stable blood levels (less hormone fluctuation = less side effects).

>but what about..
No. Do ~500mg of test, it’s the standard first cycle for a reason. You will “feel” the cycle, and you will make great gains. More test = more sides and diminishing returns past 500mg. Less test means less gains, and all the downsides of running a cycle without most of the upsides.

>yeah but what about..
Fine, if you HAVE to add something, add some oral compounds at the beginning of the cycle. 40-60mg Anavar or 60-80mg of
Turinabol.

Good luck bro!
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>>77166679
Steroids will take care of many shortcomings when it comes to building muscle, but only to a point. If you cannot get yourself in the gym regularly or control your diet to begin to make gains naturally, steroids will be more harm than good for you most likely. They are never without sides, be that big or small. Anyway, if you are willing to impair your testicular function for the rest of your life to make gains you could’ve just worked harder for naturally, here’s what you do. Know that when you get on this ride getting off isn’t as simple as stopping, your life will be hell. Go to eroids, find a trusted source. Buy insulin needles. Start with testosterone, 300-500mg. Ester doesn’t really matter other than how often you want to pin. You need to know how you respond to anabolics first, and test is best. From there assess your goals, wether that is getting shredded or mass building, and also how many sides you are willing to deal with (liver toxicity from orals, fucked up blood pressure, etc.) and you can start to stack on top of test. I think most fags these days are on something like test + mast + eq. Tren is really not worth it unless getting huge means everything to you, the sides are awful. Same with the gnarlier orals like sdrol. Nandralone will make your joints feel awesome but your penis WILL NOT work on it. Do bloodwork, watch your blood pressure, e2, prolactin, lipids and cholesterol. Good luck punishing your organs.
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>>77166730
roids make you jacked without even working out.
There's even a chart that proves it n shit
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>>77166730
>nandrolone will make your dick not work
Not true. In my experience, lower doses (200-250mg/wk) with test at a higher dose than nandrolone results in exactly zero side effects and more gains.
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>>77166727
Disagree with most of this but in a trivial sense
For instance test e and c are interchangeable, the specific choices for AI and SERM are also kinda off, looks like older knowledge from somewhere
500mg cycle is good advice though, get enough for 16-20 weeks, up to 24 weeks is even better of you have some left over and want to extend
Oral as additionals are ok but yeah not required
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>>77166735
I think that chart is very disingenuous because water weight is included in lean body mass and steroids drastically increase water weight and glycogen/glucose storage while on a blast
You make muscle tissue gains but they are not as big as it would seem from that study particularly if you aren't lifting
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>>77166679
Go to multiple TRT clinics until you find one that will give you gear. You can't handle planning all this for yourself, don't have the genetics for it until you get older (maybe).
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>>77166735
Barely, maybe. Increased intramuscular water is technically lean mass but it is not =\= increased contractile tissue.
>>77166739
You said it yourself though, anon, low dose. Not everyone responds the same and if you do a more traditional 1:1 deca/test cycle sides are more common.
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>>77166746
It feels like test C takes forever to saturate but it might just be in my head; also, the cypionate ester weighs more than the enanthate ester so you’re getting less testosterone mg per mg.

Also: most test C I’ve seen sold is doses at 200mg/mL which makes planning the cycle a little annoying. With test E, it’s 2mL a week with 250mg/mL. With test C it’s 2.5 mL/week at 200mg/mL

>a lot of this is outdated
Care to fill me in? I’m not being rude or sarcastic, I’ve been using steroids off and on for over a decade and Exemestane is preferred to arimidex because it’s a suicidal AI so you’ll never worry about estrogen rebound and it makes controlling e2 sides easier. Tamoxifen completely nukes androgen induced gyno and has saved me multiple times. Enclomiphene makes you feel like a blubbering woman but i never had an issue coming off as far as restarting natural test production with tamoxifen/enclomiphene
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>>77166922
>outdated
Mostly the pct/ancillary advice
Aromasin is the "suicidal" AI that destroys aromatase, arimidex is not so many ppl tend to pick it
If you do use aromasin then I would recommend a way to recover e2 if you crash it, dbol, TNE or similar will save you several weeks of feeling like you're dying from crashed e2
Tamoxifen(Nolva) is the usual SERM but not many places/people recommend clomid/enclomiphene now instead most will do nolva and some sort of hcg plan
I think you may have swapped hcg and clomid purposes but it's hard to say, hcg is the one that restarts or keeps your balls producing
Hcg is usually during cycle then stop for pct/serm but you can do it a few weeks before or even the first couple weeks of pct
Ralox is a better serm for gyno not nolva, but isn't as good for pct
You can get away with just nolva and hcg usually as ancillaries plus something for e2 depending on your AI choice
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>>77167013
Adex is so much stronger than asin that it’s almost guaranteed that a newbie will crash their e2. I have talked to dozens of people about this and it’s common for 0.25 mg a week to put e2 in single digits on 500 mg test. Asin is much easier to dose and, even though it’s suicidal, easier to not crash e2 with. I agree with you that you should keep tne or dbol on hand though. Everything else I agree with you on 100%, I just personally think that adex is way too overpowered for a beginner’s cycle, especially when most guys are going to take too much when they don’t even need to.
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>>77166712
then go learn you fucking nigger. You think people just whined on the internet? no, go suck the tren trannys dick in your gym, get a load of tren and see how much dbol it takes for you to grow tits and then back off. Thats learning kid. thats life experience. now get to sucking.
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>>77167013
>HCG is what restarts your balls
Enclomiphene does that as well just through a different mechanism. HCG gets your balls full again so they’re ready to produce test, enclomiphene restarts the feedback loop to get them pumping out test. Ideally you use them both but just enclomiphene with tamoxifen works just fine



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