Old one:
>>77130712

>>77168478
>/troon/

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>>77168478
Reminder you don't have to be weak and effeminate just to get your /roon/ on; you can do both!

>>77168516
>in retirement

>>77168516
Why didn't you post yourself?

Getting back into running as a secondary cardio after a few years and wanted to give some perspective for anyone who thinks running is a pain or feels impossible due to weight.
Cross train cardio, total cardio volume > running volume.
It increases full body metabolic efficiency, individual muscle groups increase their own transport passages for energy uses independently of each other.
So swimming with arms, can still help you mitigate the energy usage of the gentle swing of your arms during running. biking glutes/quads (secondaries all other legs).
IDK take it or leave it, but it allows you to have rest days from running if it is a pain, without hurting your running by taking a rest day.
I seem to always be able to get to competitive running faster than most running programs by a few weeks doing this.
Instead of needing to do the second/third month revamp of ability commonly found in running programs.
Also if going for high volume, diversified cardio has almost none of the risk of increased cortisol commonly found in studies for intense volume cardio.
good luck

>>77168478
My ankle is better, I walk either fine or almost 100% normal at this point.
Will try barbell squat again soon
Definitely not trying fucking jogging for now.

how common is the marathon runner to triathlete pipeline

>>77168779
i dont think she knows what a marathoner is but hey thats 5km more than the people who never tried

>>77169013
55 minute 5k is walking pace the fact she beat 2/3 of women with that is pretty grim

>>77168478
Changing up my fitness routine, trying to cut weight, maintain lifts with minimal loss, and add distance to run

>Monday: long distance run, 4-6 miles jogging and walking
>Tuesday: Core lift day (push, pull, or legs with glutes and core mixed in.), at end HIIT doing spring 8 (8 sets, 30 sec sprints up hill, 90 recovery, averages out to 2 miles of cardio)
>Wenesday: Rest
>Thursday: Repeat Tuesday
>Friday: Repeat Monday
>Sat and Sun: Rest

Im trying to average 16-18 miles a week, goal would be 20. Trying to do 80/20 on my miles, between low impact and high. Anything I'm missing or am I good? Couldn't do a lot of running this past winter, I just can't do treadmills, and Ive got no choice with sprint 8 since its programmed into my Y's treadmills.

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MOGGED

>>77169009
Fairly. I almost made the jump but got mono and stopped running for years. Seems to be common for athletes to realise that they don't necessarily have the speed to get really good, so make the jump. Some then run better after tri training as their aerobic base is much improved...

Beginner here. How long until I can run an easy 5/10km everyday without getting sore?

>>77169433

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>>77168478
Can I run a marathon without paying for the event?

>>77168779
>This is in the top 32% of women who finished
grim

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My knee hurts.

>>77168779
Shit like this is why you now have to run a 2:25 marathon to be able to qualify for the NYC marathon. We need more gatekeeping to keep dilettante retards out of our sport. You should have to train and prove you can finish in a reasonable time to even be allowed in a race.

>>77169502
if you're a kid some races let you run for free

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-American_Footrace
Imagine running from the West Coast to the East Coast (4000 miles). How do people even do it?

>>77169619
Bulgarian split squats helped me. Even body weight is enough or some light dumbbells. Now the only time I feel any knee pain is like the first 100 meters or so but then I'm pain free. Before that pain usually came and stayed around the 3-4k mark.

>>77168779
aren't marathons 40km(25miles) ? wtf is this shit

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>>77169625
most marathons have stupidly high time limits, the fat nog in pic related video says that he "runs" marathons in 6.5-7 hours

>>77168516
here's a big unit running fast
https://youtu.be/7IVY5MX7oWU

>>77169254
3 rest days is crazy unless you have a really busy life outside of training. I would at least do an easy day on one of them.

>>77169625
These races get so many entries. All they need to do is allocate more spaces to faster runners. I don't mind fat plodders getting entries but they shouldn't be 50+ % of the field.

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Honestly what kind of retard thought it would be a good idea to make shoes so narrow at the tip? Like 99.9999% of all """""running""""" shoes COMPLETELY fuck up the sides of your big toe making them a complete bloody mess once you run past the 10-13km mark, like holy shit we should round these people up and make them face the wall.

>>77170061
sounds like a you problem
never hear about anyone else complaining about this

>>77170064
Im a 6 foot 3 big dick big toe giga chad anon, im not like the other "men" on this planet

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>>77170071
I have a pair of nike ultrafly. they have a stupidly wide toe box. I'm sure there are plenty of other options for fat footed oafs

>>77169625
idiot
>>77169983
buy an ad faggot

>>77170071
Yes, you're not like other men on this planet as you don't have mental capacity to Google "wide toe box running shoes"

>>77170061
>>77170071
I'm 6'4", can rarely find shoes my size in stores and it's really not an issue I have tbqh famalam.
Got a blister on my pinky toe though, kinda annoying.

>>77169254
Run Wednesday, but make sure you run as slow as possible so they're easy efforts. Plan your runs by time not distance.

>>77168779
>994/2905
I dont know how you can go slower than that unless you just completely gave up

>>77169804
42.2km (26.2 miles)

>>77168478
pussy sex

>>77169459
massively depends on your athletic history, age, etc.
if you are doing couch to 5k and keeping it pretty easy pace wise probably a month or so after you finish that

>>77169600
Insane. People who don't even run sign up to races just make social media posts.

>>77169009
>>77169357
where do you even go to practice open water swimming? is pool practice alright? the ocean isn't too far away from me but for that do you just go out and swim back forth in the deeper water?

>>77170525
yes

>>77169254
way too much sprinting as a beginner, you should work on build your base with just easy miles
the only speed work you need at the start is just some strides after your easy runs building up your aerobic base

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fartlek before the gym
bit tired in the gym. just did some rowing intervals and light squats + lunges

>>77170517
many are saying this

bahe endurance best shoe btw.

>>77170656
looks like something my grandad would wear for walking the dog
looks naff and doesn't look good for running
thumbs down from me on the looks test anyway

>>77170564
Was tired this morning too, before running and working out. More tired, now.
Also a lot more hungry than usual which is real fucking annoying.
Kind of a shit day and I'm looking forward to doing fucking nothing tomorrow.

I wish I could just snap into the "flow" right at the beginning of the run. Instead, it takes me like 3/4 of a mile before I get there.

>>77170699
as a new runner i accidentally entered it for like a minute on one of my earlier runs and i've never replicated it since

>>77170656
lol how much of a retarded faggot do you have to be to still be on the barefoot shoe trend

>8km trail run on may
>half marathon and a 5km on june
>half marathon on august
>10km on september

and i've never ran before
i yolo'd myself into a snafu im kind of regretting that random spike of 3am confidence and inspiration

Had explosive diarrhea whilst running.
It's over

would it be a completely retarded idea to sign up for a half marathon thats two weeks after a full? the last full i did i felt pretty much back to normal within a week
>>77170999
rip

>>77170999
your coffee in the morning bro?

>>77170873
>on may
>on june
>on august
>on september

>>77171028
I would only do it if you are going to treat it like an easy run. You may feel fine, but you are at a much higher risk of injury if you try to run it fast that quickly after a marathon.

>>77171028
You'll be fine. If you played sports, you would already know this.

>>77171064
that was my thought too
>>77171075
i dont play sports i just run

>>77171075
what does this post even mean? many people are still fucked 2 weeks after a marathon even with strong running and sporting backgrounds

>>77171080
I know.

>>77171087
yeah even pro runners will just cut races short and take a DNF if they don't have it that day so they can race again in the near future

>>77171090
wow ok buddy geez louise gosh hoowee

>>77170147
Fatass

>>77171028
I generally run 10 miles the weekend after a marathon but like >>77171064 mentioned it’s not gonna be a PR run. Running slow is fine but if you try and get any pace the legs just don’t cooperate.

>>77168478
fuck yes dude are you me? did I make this post with another schizophrenic personality split that I didn't know about? incredible.

The only thing I'd add is that you should run with minimal shoes like Converse or Luna sandals. you might disagree with me, but I'm correct so that's what it's worth. it's worth everything it's correct

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First trail roon. Tougher on the legs than I remember.

Running shirtless with my pants sagging makes me feel more human than a human

>>77171304
cringe

>>77169254
Terrible.
Look up dan john's easy strength if you wanna start mixing running and lifting

I need your help bros.
So i'm shit at running alright, my pr was a 1hr17 min trail 10k last summer.
I also lift weights and am overweight, 6'3 200lbs, 34yo, ex alcoholic and DUDEWEED smoker.
My plan is to cut to 180lbs for this summer.
I lift fullbody, 3 to 5 days a week.

Should I do Lift / run / lift / run / lift / run / rest, with the last day of the week being a long-ish run
OR
Lift easy everyday + easy as shit run everyday.
I cant stay below 150bpm when running as slow as i can, when i slow down even more i start heelstriking.

Thanks alot in advance, I really want to get better, my goal is a 30min 5k on road this summer.

>>77171543
running everyday is hard
best not at the start

>>77171240
fuck yes brother
>>77171528
nah just do it

>>77168478
OK giving this shit a try again.. last time my heart and lungs were ready but I was a bonelet and got a stress fracture or something from stacking on miles immediately from nothing.. just gonna take it ridiculously slow in progression I guess

>>77168779
Wait, she runs slower than I walk? With a weighted backpack, on a trail with hills and uneven terrain, I walk about 1km in a little under 10 minutes. In other words, I'd use well under 50 minutes to walk 5km.

>>77171543
Jump on the bike or elliptical for 30 minutes every time you're in the gym. This will make a huge difference and help lose weight faster. You can push the pace on bike if you want because it is easy on the legs compared to running. Then just do all your runs easy until you build up some fitness.

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https://www.marathoninvestigation.com/2026/03/half-marathon-world-record-claim-in-las-vegas-sparks-controversy.html

lmao what did she expect to happen here
Is this stupidity or mental illness or both?

>>77171714
>breaks half marathon record by 3 minutes
>has time to get sexually harrassed by staff at water station
even without knowing any of the context that story was already very suspect.
Anyway some people are just deranged like that, it's basically impossible why a group of people would stir shit up like this and humiliate themselves in the process

>>77170999
Been there, done that. Now I never run if my last meal was less than 4 hours ago.

>>77169820
I'm learning guitar but I'm not doing it to play music.

I need a new running shoe, I mostly run on concrete any good recommendations. My feet also supinate but I’m trying to stay away from stability shoes because I heard they don’t really do anything except reinforce bad habits

>>77171714
Bring back the asylums

>>77172114
Asics Superblast 2 if you can find it for sale in your size, if not get the Saucony Azura. I would recommend the Adidas Evo SL because it's my favorite shoe and it's cheap but it is very unstable. You are right that you most likely don't need a special "stability shoe" (almost no one does), you just need a shoe that is stable. Both the superblast and azura fit that bill and have nice foams.

>>77172137
Which do you think is better for shock absorption? I plan on doing on only doing a 5k everyday on them maybe a 10k on the weekend

>>77172167
If you want something with more cushion you could get a novablast, gel nimbus, puma magmax, or if you want a better foam, the superblast 3... but that isn't a very good running plan... read the OP and follow an actual plan
also more shock absorption doesn't automatically mean it's better for your feet and joints, a lot of people do better in firmer shoes

Skinny-fat subhuman with calisthenics history here. Got conscripted to the zog army, have to run 4km in 18 mins. How do I start preparing for it?

>>77172595
you type like a faggot, I hope you get droned

>>77172595
lmao you fat fucking pussy

>>77172595
Go out and run every day until you have to stop to catch your breath, then repeat for at least 30 minutes. Do this every day.

>>77172114
I recently got nike pegasus and it really helps running on concrete but it's my first running shoe so not 100% how it compares, but i used AI to find me a list of shoes based on how i prioritized my preferences.

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>>77169625
>>77169820
Yes, just scare an already obese nation away from sports even more.

>>77172751
>sport

ok I think my ankle is fine
squatted a new 10rm pr (though I could do 20 lb more according to calculator)
Been doing calf raises and tib raises whenever I remember to, maybe like once every two weeks for a set

>>77169502
what the fuck are they going to do? catch you?

alright nerds, read this if you want to run fast

https://modeltheruncom.wpcomstaging.com/2025/10/20/hadds-approach-to-distance-training-two-decades-later/

>>77172739
>>77172615

I have a tendency of just sprinting instead of jogging. ADHD much I guess. If keep improooving by running 10 meters more each day, will I reach my goal eventually. I can sprint 500 meters before running out of gas.

>>77172611
Don't have much choice. Nordic shitholes like the one that I live have forced military conscription for all men.

I did my first ever half marathon, it was 1:56

at least I beat that slut on facebook by a half hour

>>77172930
what i got from this was
>run 2hrs every day

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Shorts and a tee yesterday. Base layers and hat/gloves today.

i'm gonna run now after resting for like 2 weeks, if anything starts hurting i'll genuinely kill myself

I started running because I recently quit smoking and want to cut so I am ready to give 100%. I did some sort of HIIT where I do 3,4 mph for like 5 minutes then I do 10 mph sprints until my heart literally can't take it (usually around 1 minute) then go back to 3,4 mph until my heart rate goes back to around 140, then I will sprint to 10 mph again. I really like it and it makes me feel good, but my ankles hurt as hell after like 40 minutes. It it the shoes? It really bothers me because I'd do it everyday but now I had to stop it for a whole week because it hurts when I walk

>>77168779
>The people behind her
Are these people with serious medical conditions?

>>77173168
If you have just started running then going straight into interval training is going to do a number on your joints and you will need time to recover. Also, 40 mins is a lot straight off, you need to build up to it.
Even if you do other cardio I would do some steady running (not hard) just as a conditioner for your legs. Interval training sessions need to be spaced to allow you to recover and ideally improve (over compensate).

I just ran a 5km in 33 minutes! Not really impressive compared to you guys but I feel great about it

>>77173147
tfw tweaked my knee over a week ago and while it recovered 90% in the first 48 hours it still feels a little off whenever I put weight on it

I think it's the swimming life for me bros... family has a history of bum knees as well

>>77168516
Reminder that "I don’t want to become a skelly from running" sounds every bit as stupid as "I don’t want to get too big from lifting". I can assure you that you’re not going to become a skeletal looking marathon runner from jogging a 5K around the neighborhood a few days a week.

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>>77173419
Pretty cool little homie. Let me know when you hit sub 30

>>77173419
Great job, anon. Spring evening runs are my fave.

Picking up some zero drop Altras tomorrow. Hoping they work on the shin splints

>>77173147
>>77173420
did some intervals last weekend, overstrided to fuck like a retard. my arch and plantar flared up bigtime on one foot. doesn't hurt trooning, but does afterward, so I guess there is still hope for me.

going to the track and doing 3 x mile
sick of all this threshold bullshit. time to do some proper hard running

>>77173419
5km in 30 min was one of my first goals that really felt like an accomplishment.

>>77172751
the guy in that video eats a big slice of cake every time he runs and during races other people bring him cake that he eats while he "runs", he's intentionally staying obese which means that his joints will give out at some point and then he's gonna get even fatter.
Anyway beginners can just do 5k and 10k races, waddling through a marathon just so that later you can brag about it and pretend that you are fit is not productive and it has a higher risk of injury, that kind of race is on the "extreme" side so it shouldn't be done by anyone like you wouldn't send a beginner skier down a black diamond slope.
If fatsos want to get inspired they can watch Brittany Runs A Marathon or something and learn about how you have to gradually build up to your goal

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it's time to stop this cigarette lifestyle that has been torturing me since i was 13 (26 now) perfect time to become a faggot who goes on hikes and has a golden retriever

>>77173706
you sound like a faggot

>>77173771
you sound like you are mad because I btfo your retarded post with facts and logic

>soon time for a chill 6km hangover roon

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>>77173064
Shorts, windbreaker jacket and gloves for me.
Just a chill run before workout but I sped up a bit at the end, it was fun.

>>77173304
Thank you I will try to take it gradually then

>make no progress
>"run slower!"
>i litterally cant run any slower

>>77168478
Now that's a milky little pooper that I would destroy and then lovingly nurse back to health (with my tongue)

I make so little progress running, constantly mogged by 50yo women when i run, i wonder if im meant to run at all.

>>77173816 Nice run... any recommendations on a lightweight jacket for cold or rain? I'm going to start having to do early morning winter runs with mist

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>>77173683
smashed the first mile way too fast so had to change it up
mile
4x400
800

>>77173901
then lose weight
it takes months to get fit anyway. don't be expecting to improve week over week. just keep running consistently then 4 months later you will be fit

>>77173901
Run on the spot. *Then* you can't run any slower. And then tilt forward a tiny bit.

>>77173976
I just got a cheapass Kiprun windbreaker run 100. Not too warm, works great for the wind, bit less so for the rain, depending how long I'm outside or how hard it's falling.
For the winter I had a cheap Puma sweater jacket, no fucking idea which, kept the cold and rain out nice, but it's too warm now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDg4NAEKQO8
ITS UP

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>>77174387
can't do it wrong if you don't do it

>>77173429
No shit retard, but dummies like you need to be reminded that if all you are doing is yogging a 5k a few days a week, you also have time to go get your lift on. The fact that such a simple, uncontroversial idea bothers you suggest you are in fact a skelly bitch.

What size treadmill is ok for walking/jogging? The cheap foldable ones I'm looking at on Amazon are 37.5 inches, and that seems a little small to me. I mainly want one so I don't wear a hole in my carpet walking in circles, so I don't need a super expensive 2m long top of the range military grade one.

Guy on the treadmill today running and holding on to the screen the whole time. Going at a decent pace too. Bizarre behaviour.

>>77174486
look @ marketplace for used treadies anon

What do you consider a “good” marathon time? Like, what is the 2pl8 bench of marathon running?

>>77174545
doesn't matter as long as your improving.

>>77174600
Be a man. Give a real answer.

>>77174545
What do you think it is?
If 2pl8, the basic high school test of strength, is your baseline, are you going to compare yourself to a teenager's good marathon time? A grown man's? Or against yourself?

What do you guys do for shin splints? I walked five miles with 30lbs strapped to my back and now my shins feel like they’re gonna snap in half even after icing.

>he didn't do his calf raises
oh no no no no no no

>>77174545
3 hours I suppose. Anyone can bench 100kg with some training and anyone can run 3 hours. It make take some time it's very doable for the average person.

>I did something stupid now I'm injured
many such cases. stop being stupid.

>>77174620
i dont have to i've been fat my whole life

>>77174651
I guarantee you the average person can get to 2pl8 a lot easier, faster, and with less time commitment than going for 3hr run. Both are doable for the average person, I feel like running takes more dedication.

>>77174545
20 minute 5k maybe
reaching marathon potential takes too much training to be comparable

i ate too much fiber today i can't run with a bloated stomach like this wtf?

>>77174545
Maybe 4ish? That’s around 9 minute miles so you are probably running the entire time outside of a quick walk/stop

>>77174668
Yeah because running takes longer to improve at. It's more of a time commitment and about consistency. The gains are small even for beginners. And even more so if you are not coming from another sport.
Every week in this thread you have guys complaining about not improving. You just gotta keep grinding it out.

i'm dragging my group chat into my runs this year soon i'll be known as that dude who runs

>>77168516
Deadass had to do a double take to make sure this wasn't the digital meteorologist

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I’ve spammed so much volume the last year that I can go out and blast a half marathon without slowing down with ease.
The Japanese have the superior training philosophy. They don’t waste energy worrying about heart rate zone training or any of that shit. They just roon.

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>>77173468
Well I went for my longest run of the past 3 weeks without debilitating shin pain filtering me 5 minutes in, thanks Altra. Lasted 15 minutes before I decided to call it quits, gonna ease back in. Feels good to be back on the roon rootine again, anons. I hit a 29:30 5k after 2 months of training right when I stopped, hoping to exceed that and be pain free within the next month

>>77169013
I will say... if you are really used to running 5k, you might be surprised to find you can run 10k and even further to half marathon territory. I ran 16 miles once just to see how long I could go. I had to stop because my joints were really not used to it.

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>>77168478

i started rooning properly in jan, trying to run a sub 20 5k. Just ran 20:40 after a 10 week block of 3 runs a week. its insane that people can run like double this pace for a full marathon.. also no wonder this board is dead why is it so fucking hard to post a comment, christ.

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>Finally getting over my food poisoning that's lasted three or four days
>Thinking about that first run back
It feels like I'm starting from scratch.

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>Heel strikers

>>77175008
nice

strained my bicep doing deadlifts. I don't think I've been completely injury free in about 10 years. always something. at least it's not a running one.

>ah, ah, aam waaaken
>don't mind me, imma just waaakeeen on the running track
>no, I won't step aside when I see you coming
>no, I won't step aside when you come from behind because I'm either on my phone or a woman with tero situational awareness or both
>what do you mean I should walk my dog on a leash on a running track when it's well known that dogs are triggered by unusual movements? Little puddle has never hurt anyone!
>need to get that 10k steps, because big slomo tech told me it's gonna make me healthy and going to negate all the bacon and mc slop and diet coke. Do you expect me to walk with the other pedestrians on hard concrete instead of this nicely cushioned track where I'm just an obstacle like in a platformer game? My joints wouldn't handle that
>Ahhh, aaahhh, AAAHHHHH AAAAAAMMMM GANNNAAA WAAAAAAAAK

Fucking hell....

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>>77175573
i have never used a track, but i swim a lot and cunts walking in the lanes infuriates me, especially because there is a waist deep 25m pool next to the 50m pool with the lanes. I imagine it is a very similar feel

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Holy shit I went the opposite way on one of my usual long paths, it's so much fucking harder what the fuck. All the gentle down slopes just turn into murderous up slopes, and all the up slopes turn into down slopes just barely long enough I feel like I'm starting to rest right as it goes back up again.
Don't think I'm doing that ever again, Jesus.

>>77175709
They're pernicious because the head says "this is a flat route" but legs say otherwise, it's like you just got 20% less fit

>>77175713
Oh yeah that too. Like, a lot I knew would be slopes, but occasionally I caught myself going "hold up, I thought this was flat?!"
So painful.
And then ofc today as I went about to do a big loop, the wind slowly shifted so I had it in my face completely all along. That was great help too.

week 2 of running again after taking 3 weeks off and i still feel like shit every run. i'm never taking that long of a break again. when does this shit get better?

>>77175584
Oh I feel you man. You have to figure out when the pool is the most empty if you want to swim in peace. But unfortunately my wife has become a teacher and where we live swimming is mandatory in schools. So now she tells me all these stories about how the little fuckers are swimming in the pool with all these infections and skin conditions. Heck, apparently even lice survives pool water. It completely killed my mood for swimming.

>Put fist/ball between thighs
>Squeeze thighs together
Is this a good way to work out the legs while vibe coding?

>>77175799
sure why not. adductors are very neglected in general not just by runners
everyone should be doing their copenhagen planks

>>77175799
we hate vibe coders here

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I jogged for like 2 and a half hours and my battery only went down 5%, Android chads stay winning

Started running recently and ran my first 5k today. Then I took a 15 minute break and did it a second time, with a total of 14 km ran with 1 km of walking. I get it now. It feels very addicting

I have a question: is there any good way to get around the slight friction that happens inside the shoes that causes heat to build up and then moisture? I have to balance not tying my shoes too tight (very wide feet, leading to cramps) and not having them too loose (too much movement makes my feet heat up, sweat and blister). I have tried running socks and they have helped a bit, and also retying my shoes in various strange ways to alleviate the cramps I would get in my midfoot but any other tips are appreciated. I toe strike, if that changes anything

>>77174668
>reach 2pl8
I'm a genetic dead end and could never reach it after 5 years of lifting.
t. 6'3" 210lbs

>>77176189
Lacing, socks and shoes are the only options, imo.
Congrats on the runs. Careful with increasing mileage too fast. Euphoria -> overtraining -> physiological issues.
You seems to be inbetween 1 and 2.

>>77176200
>Lacing, socks and shoes are the only options, imo.
I guess I'll just have to try more variations of lacing them to see if I can get it tighter around the toes and heel whilst still leaving room around the arch
>Careful with increasing mileage too fast
This definitely was the most Ive run in a day and the most Ive run consecutively as well so you are right. I will tone it down and try to fit in a couple of 2-5ks here and there so I dont jump straight to the double digits again
Thanks. I wouldnt have thought about that had you not mentioned it

Let's say i'm supposedly inbetween 100-140bpm while lifting.
Do i need zone2 rooning?

Running is so shit because women can beat men at it. Getting passed by femoids deals unhealable damage to men you fucks psyoped into doing so.

>>77176583
>give women the ability from escape from men they don't like
what did god mean by this?

>>77176583
>Woman runs faster than me
>I stare at their ass for a bit
>Think nothing more of it

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>>77176227
>become chronically unfit with resting hr of 120
>build mega base fitness with zone 2 24 hours a day
>get fit and suddenly you're an elite runner

>>77172102
I ate an expired yoghurt, it was a bad idea. Also I thought I could hold it in until home.

>>77176732
I always have faster run times for races when there is some little teeny bopper in front of me bouncing her spandex ass up and down
>if I slow down, I lose the view

>>77176732
>Woman runs faster than me, coming in suddenly from a corner.
>She has a horrible jiggly fat ass despite being otherwise rather fit.
>Zero interest in women at that point in time.
>Speed up to get ahead, beat my usual time.
Thanks!

>traumatic breakup
>suddenly a marathoner
more likely than you think

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>>77175830
>we

>>77175139
yeah no shit. no other thread on /fit/ makes me coom as much as the OP posts on roon threads. want to SNIIIIIIIIIF so bad.

>>77176675
Thats why he created horsed and lassos.

Would stopping for a few easy pullups during an ez roon fuck up my gainz?

>>77177251
Yes, you'll instantly lose all possible gains you could have made from that session.

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>>77173783

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>runner's knee
It's officially over, can't even do 5k without pain anymore. What the fuck am I suppose to do now, rooning is unironically the only worthwhile thing in my life, I'll go crazy if I can't do it anymore

>>77168779
If a man can identify as a woman, then picrel can identify as a marathoner too

>>77177471
swim and ride and start running all over again i.e., c25k from the beginning to the end

>>77177471
Start lifting weights.
Get into kettlebells if you like cardio so much.

>>77177471
It's running, everyone gets injured. Stop crying. Do your rehab, do you cross training to stay fit and comeback stronger.

>>77177471
Cross train and physio, pfps fucked up my current training block for a month but there's not much you can do aside from learn not to skip leg day and mobility work

>>77177471
Shit sports have injuries named after them.
>runners knee
>jumpers knee
>tennis/golfer elbow
No such lifting shit
Just lift you'll be healthier

>powerlifter's quad

>>77177471
Runners knee
>short term
Take it easy for a week or two and when you start back up, ice/elevate/etc. Buy a knee brace band for when you start back up. It’s just a strap that goes right below your knee cap. $10-20 from any pharmacy/store. When running try to avoid step hills especially downhills.
>Long term
Strengthen your quads. Lunges/squats. Fix your running form so you are not over striding.

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zone 3 cruising

Im doing my first marathon in May. A few days afterwards I wanted to try to do 100k steps in a single day. Is that likely to be viable so soon after a marathon?

I need to run 1.5 Miles in 12:29. I’m at 1.3 in 12:29 i’m so fucking close bros

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I'm 250lbs on 6'4 frame, im rooning for a few years now. Roughly every 2-3 days. I sometimes notice my knee or ankles allthough its not that bad. Im not really increasing my pace and my distance not at all as im running mostly for fun (8km in about 45 min). Am i slowly fucking my shit up ot should i be fine in lets say 10 years from now? Or is it hard to say? Never had any running related injuries

>>77177725
probably not

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>>77175709
>>77175713
run one way
>feels like I'm running uphill
run the other way
>feels like I'm running uphill

>>77177471
i'm so sorry anon, but you're probably done for...
i suggest getting into cycling or swimming

>>77177725
only if you go like 90% effort in the marathon instead of racing it

>>77177725
What's the point of doing it a few days later and not say 2 weeks later?

>>77178059
Booked a week off work after the marathon. Would be an opportune time to attempt it. I could just wait a few weeks though and attempt it on a weekend I suppose.

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Did my last long roon before the taper weeks.
Completely disregarded all of the gay advice online and I am in better shape than ever
>Erm..you need rest weeks
>Erm..you should only do one or two 20 mile runs and never go past 22
Fuck that. I ran 22+ miles 6 Sundays in a row and got faster every week

>>77178126
I've never heard either of those things.

>>77178126
>Completely disregarded all of the gay advice online
he's learning

had my big toenails removed lads
no rooning for a month but glas yhis is finally done, been bothering me for five years or sl

>>77178185
mine fell off once. what's the big deal?

>>77178271
ok well mine were surgically removed so its a little different

>>77178126
the reasoning is just that you would have gotten the same adaptation from 2.5 hour 20 mile runs and been a little more recovered for the next workout
but the advice is really to keep 5 hour marathoners from killing themselves with a 4.5 hour 20 miler that's two thirds of their weekly volume and takes 3 days to recover from which is counterproductive

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Long weekend roon. Couple little blisters that will be annoying but whatever.

Going to do 20 miles. Final long run before my 50 mile trail race in 2 weeks. Im not going to run the entire thing today.

>slog through first 2kms
>stop running and walk for a while
>suddenly not tired after and my legs aren't as sore
america explain

>>77173248
yeah they have the worst condition you could imagine: being a woman

>>77178645
Sometimes this happens to me. I’ll feel like shit for the first 30 minutes of a run, occasionally have to piss so bad that I stop for a minute to go, and then suddenly I feel fantastic

Has anyone here actually experienced a runner's high?
I've been hearing about it all my life but I'm starting to believe it's not a real thing. I've literally ran till I collapsed on the ground just to try feel it and it's never happened. I don't believe in it anymore. It's as real as the queen of England.

>>77178663
When I was like 12 years old or something, we had a walk run for our school. At the time I only did hockey so I walked a large part of it. But I distinctly remember at the finish feeling like I could run the whole thing back again, and after like 30 minutes I felt like absolute garbage. I didn't get another runners high until I started running again just a few years ago, and I only get it once and a blue moon.

>>77178645
Probably not warming up enough. The slog and then walk got blood flowing to your leg muscles
>>77178663
Not sure of others experiences, but at a certain point I just feel like my body is on autopilot. Legs/feet aren’t sore at all, not breathing heavily. If I’m listening to music I’m vibing to whatever song I’m listening to. Just an overall a chill experience. Also post run there’s some good relaxation feeling as well.

>>77178663
accidentally did it for a minute when i was just starting and never did it again since

>>77178663
never

>>77178663
I'm convinced it's fake and it's just people who had a lucid running dream as a kid and now as an adult they misremember it as real. Cus whenever they describe it, it's exactly what a running dream feels like.

That autopilot "in the zone" thing is real though. Where you're able to camp in low Z5 for a long time but it doesn't feel that bad cus you're completely zoned out.

>>77178861
low zone 5? wtf kinda running are you doing where you're camping in low zone 5. I havent even got to zone 5 once while rooning.

>>77178985
you've never raced a 5k?

43 miles in 3 days

garn take it easy tomorrow

like few miles and some hard 200m hill reps 8-10

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>>77178663
>Has anyone here actually experienced a runner's high?
yeah, walking yesterday for about 20 minutes
i can very clearly feel it, it's like the pace is never fast enough and u start cramping out and noticing that actually you're walking as fast as you can :D so u slow down - in good posture with pelvis pushed forward, breathing with diaphragm, extended thoracic tucked chin, and then you exchange eyes with literal beer gut belly carrying thumping heavily runner that moves about twice as fast but steps 3 times faster, good walk is about as fast as slowest jog, he is also in rooners high but his faces tells the story of anguish and torture, he can't feel the pain he is administering because of rooner's high

upright posture walk is the ONLY cardiovascular activity humans should ever do, nobody does though, they were told rooning is a must, it's a lie
>>77178861
>it's exactly what a running dream feels like.
thas hallucinations, and that's your subconscious taking over telling u u're mightily retardeded in what u do
>lucid running dream as a kid
no, lucid dream is in dream setting when u discover shit doesn't make sense in dreams - conscious mind switches on when it shouldn't, conscious mind switched on without switched off subconscious yet, you've got 2 gears on at the same time
hallucinations is in real setting when u discover u're seeing stuff that's impossible
yes they are the same thing sorta, but on the other hand completely opposite because of original state of mind
>That autopilot "in the zone" thing is real though.
thas suffocating, zone 5 is anaerobic by definition, professionals check out multiple times their lactic and keep it low for that reason
>>77178985
>low zone 5? wtf kinda running are you doing where you're camping in low zone 5. I havent even got to zone 5 once while rooning.
get on my level - zone 7 where it's at, 7 or 8 at least xD

>>77179035
I posted above my first 5k, was trying to run sub 20 but avg heart rate was 162, peaked at 178. even still, I thought zone 5 was peak intensity, hill sprint type stuff.

>>77179063
I think sprints are zone 6 or 7 if they're differentiated, in a 5 zone model 5k effort should be in zone 5

>>77178663
You just feel better after doing a good run. Not like you just popped some pills.

>>77168478
can roon 10km easy then do it again after 3 days rest but if I troon after 2 or 1 days rest I get shin splints.

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First 10k, was pretty fun, expected worse based on my 20:09 5k 2 weeks ago. Think I had more in the tank but didn't pace it very well. 10 mile race in 3 weeks, hope sub 75 is viable.

>>77179180
4:35/km would be just under 74. I think you should be able to do that

>>77176786
Dodged a bullet. With how bad shit is nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if she had a friend filming everything hiding in a bush to make a tiktok on how creepy guys are.

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>>77179226
Whats the current go to for marathon training? Anything better or worth reading alongside Pete Pfitzinger. I need to jump on a plan now that im finally recovering from tendonitis.

>>77178663
Yeah been running for about 8 years but it only happened a few times when I guess I was pushing myself. It’s an adrenaline dump for me usually at about 17km running from my brain to all around my body for about 10-15 seconds

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>>77178427
Short ez run before workout, increased the weights a bit today, tiring at the time but I feel just fine now.
I have maybe a blister, idk it might be gone by now, I didn't feel it at all today. Speeding up a bit at the end remains fun.

>>77179226
Dunno, she did run like, I want to say at least like, 500m~1km ahead of me and then about 6~7km right behind me. Bit long to have a friend in ambush.

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When I go for longer runs >15km, this muscular area around my backside feels sore and aches.
I'm very skinny and negligible ass. Is that the problem? It's an area that hurts after staying stood up for long periods of time

It's just not possible to have zone 2 run.

Garmin watch is screaming to get some runs with a HR of 143 bpm done, but even on my perceived easy runs my average HR is around 153.

aerobic deficiency syndrome

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>>77179517
here's my most recent runs.
are you doing 100 mpw and need to go sluggishly slow to recover? fuck zone 2. go by feel and if it feels easy then that's good enough.

>>77178663
Don't know about a high. I would occasionally get a "hell yeah" feeling a few minutes after a particularly intense, fast finish to a cross county race, especially if I had run well. The feeling immediately after finishing was normally "am I going to throw up".
Road and track races I just felt fucked after.

>>77179517
This.
>do hills walks with 40kg weighted vest
>130bpm
>run at 8.5km/h pn flat terrain
>160bpm

>>77179517
Do you have your heart rate zones configured right? Most people can't go off the default settings.
Also don't listen to this worthless retard:
>>77179575

>>77178663
I’ve had it, but I never experienced something incredible. What I’ve experienced is, I run for a couple miles, my legs start hurting, then suddenly my legs hurt less, my breathing gets easier and I’m able to run faster, for about a minute, and then it goes back.

Is that a runners high? Idk

>>77179592
What would you call "configured right"? Like, check where you can keep a conversation, etc? Have a doctor or some other tests to measure?

>>77178663
Sometimes I zone out and don't notice any pain or exhaustion, but it's not really a high.
Other times running just feels really fun and easy, usually when I slow down slightly or after stopping for a few seconds.
The only time it feels like an actual high is when I lie down in a grass field right after a long run. The beauty of the world around me becomes overwhelming, all my worries leave me and I feel grateful to be alive for about 3 minutes.

>>77179711
Google how to set it up through lactate threshold (best) or HRR (heart rate reserve).
Basically you want to do a lactate threshold test through a test on your watch or you can do a manual test and just look at your average HR throughout it. Once you find your LTHR (lactate threshold heart rate) set your zones based on that:
Zone 1 : Less than 85% of LTHR.
Zone 2 : 85% – 89% of LTHR.
Zone 3 : 90% – 94% of LTHR.
Zone 4 : 95% – 99% of LTHR.
Zone 5 : Above 100% of LTHR
also if you are still building your base you will go above zone 2 every once in awhile, zone 2 matters more when you are running 6/7 days a week, 50+ miles a week, threshold runs multiple times a week, etc.

>>77169820
I ran/walked the Philly marathon so I could get a years worth of free pizza. Pretty sure my time was still better than that

I wanna run marathons but I don't want my name publically on their website what do I do

A lot of your "runner's high" experiences just sounds like second win desu

>>77179758
enter under a fake name or bandit the race
or just use your real name like a normal person

I'm fucked up off boxed wine and marijuana about to go for a run. I'll post the aftermath when I'm done.

>run
>some women pass me
>get home and contemplate quitting running

>>77179844
>>77179908
not looking good

>>77179772
I'm getting gangstalked so entering it would ruin my life

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>>77179844

>>77179733
My watch doesn't do LTHR, I used HRR. It seems all zones are a bit higher overall.
I can't update past runs, but it seems I'm still in zone 3 for most of it. Though the descriptions calls 3 "aerobic", surely that's fine.

couch to 5k or 10k for a skinnyfat boomer trying to get unskinnyfat
or some other routine altogether

>>77179953
depends how unfit you are. coach to 5k might be too easy.

>>77179974
i was in the military doing 30 minute 10k’s 5 years ago and havent worked out one single time since then. 5’10” pushing 190lbs

>>77179997
Try the first few days of it and if it's too easy then just skip to the next week.
You will get fit again quickly if you were previously in good shape. The base fitness never goes away.

Post half marathon I’ve been doing strength training in addition to boxing.

I’ve been trying to keep my distance runs so I’ve been running 15k easy. However I’ve started having “thump” and dull pain sensation in my hamstrings.

During my peak mileage for the half marathon I was running about 30-35 miles a week, but now I had to cut my runs short.

The only difference is that I’ve started strength training

RDL’s
Bulgarian split squats
Goblet squats
The quad and ham machines

Is the extra strength training causing aggravation in my hamstring?

To be specific the pain is located close to the glutes and wraps around the groin. It doesn’t really bother me at all but I know it can become turbo injury if I overtrain.

For recovery, I plan on stopping distance running for a week or so and going lower on the weights. I will probably just hit the jump rope for cardio until it feels better.

Does anyone else have experience with dealing with hamstring nonsense?

>>77180082
Yes, its direct consequence of injuring hamstrings from dl, yes it always happens, powersharters are immobile, u are retarded.

>>77180162
And squats as well, hamstrings are not for hip extension certin, the pulley is on the knee not hip.

>>77168478
I am sexually attracted to fit females of my race.

>>77180082
Yeah, you shouldn't mix running and lifting. All these sports with athletes saying they do it are lying to you. Stop both immediately and go to /fraud/. They'll help you from there.

>>77180162
I don’t think I injured it while doing RDL’s and I’m not a powershitter. But yeah it’s a little retarded to do all this extra shit when I should just run. Thanks.

>>77180191
Yeah I got played by big hybrid athlete propaganda.

>>77180211
>hybrid athlete

>>77180221
spiritually trans

theres no reason you couldnt be a kettlebell warrior and also run very well

>>77180211
don't be stupid, everyone should be in the gym. no serious runner is not doing strength work

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Nice day for a 10k. Trail roon tomorrow then shitty weather for a week. If it’s more rain than snow maybe a weekend roon.

>>77180315
Strenght work is essential for runners though

>>77180642

>>77179844
>>77179947
Fucked up again at night. That run was fun as fuck no lie.

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>>77180202
it's not "extra work" bototo idioto
hamstrings literally get injured from deadlifts, rdl-s especially, injured/artificially shortened/ stiff overactive - it is a full stretch maximal pull for this muscle

however, rooning is even more retarded :D i mean u can't compare the two - apples to aranges, but i'd say it's even more retarded
>>77179059
>upright posture walk is the ONLY cardiovascular activity humans should ever do, nobody does though, they were told rooning is a must, it's a lie

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>>77168478
57:47 10km new record. feels good man

>>77180642
Absolutely

>zone 2 running is what makes you good for your cardiovascular system
>no you have to get into zone 2 via running, for any activity that's not running it doesnt work
Shit's a psyop by physios to get you injured

Running is what makes you good at running. Stop overthinking it.

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We did it Reddit.
Got a sub 25min 5K somewhere in there.
So tired now though.

How much would a decent treadmill go for? As in one that won't break in at least 10 years and that can put up with daily use. I would honestly prefer to run innawoods but I live smack dab in the middle of a concrete nightmare, so the only places to run nearby are swarming with other people and cars.

>>77179997
You mean 30min 5ks? If you were actually doing 30min 10ks you wouldn't be asking this question

>>77168478
sex

>>77181040
>no you have to get into zone 2 via running, for any activity that's not running it doesnt work
No-one has said that, anon

>>77181231
see >>77179592
>don't listen to this worthless retard

how achievable is a 13:57 5k?
I'm not partaking in anything where a woman can beat me

>>77180642
which ones should I be spamming

>>77181261
Buddy you need 2:47min per km. A km is 2.5 laps around the track, innermost lane. You think you can achieve this in less than 3 years of practice? Provided you're under 25 of course.

>>77181279
Light work.

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6x800 where I sprinted the first 200
It was kinda easy. Like a 7/10 effort overall. Maybe I should have gone a bit faster on the 600 part

I don't do zone 2 and I regularly go to the gym for my squats/lunges/deadlifts. Just for the record.

>>77181259
I didn't say you couldn't get into zone 2 in other activities. I called you a worthless retard because walking around in a weighted vest is "exercise" for fat faggots. Also if you want to get better at running you need to actually run, not just get to a magical zone 2 heart rate.

>>77181090
It just depends on what is available second hand around you. I think there are a bunch of nordic tracks that run android and allow you to flash the firmware to get around paywalls.
Usually cities have some place you can run without dealing with cars, within a mile of running which allows you time to do a bit of warmup.

>need to use the local track for intervals
>Completely packed with people walking their dogs, pushing strollers, walking five people wide instead of on sidewalks and bike paths
The abject retardation of the average person always stuns me

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>>77168478
Too Long, Didn't read. Started first day of running doing 8 mile runs

if rooning is so fun and so good, why do people fall out of it?

>>77168779
At least she tried starting AND finishing. Now she should try actually running. When I was overweight I could walk a faster 5k pace than that. They got a picture of her taking her widest step that whole race.
Like I said, great she started, but a 16min/mile pace is below a walking pace. That's I ran the first couple minutes and got gased so walked and constantly stopped.

>chafe stick
cringe or based?

>>77181437
I just run full naked. The cops chasing me gives me extra motivation.

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>>77181350
>walking around in a weighted vest is "exercise" for fat faggots.
lol, lmao

week 2 of running while on a calorie deficit and i'm learning to embrace the misery

>>77181640
you're thick mate

>>77181650
Not really, 194cm 85kg

>>77181640
exactly, you're imagining yourself as some heckin based super soldier when you're actually just an out of shape moron walking around in a retard vest

>>77181677
Where did i say i imagined myself as a soldier?
I'm simply practicing carrying heavy shit for a distance, going mountain climbing this summer and id rather be in shape.

>>77181384
me and my pals are gonna walk shoulder to shoulder and you won't stop us

oh and we're either middle eastern or indian

>>77181695
you literally posted a picture of a bunch of soldier you dumb faggot

>>77181726
It was an exemple.

>>77181726
you're trying to use logic with a foreigner and wasting your time

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another solid month done. nice and consistent about 30km per week

>>77181384
>Running out in the countryside.
>Hardly ever anybody.
>The one time there's groups, it's 55-80 years old who will never notice anything besides themselves, take all the space and clearly think if they're not in the way, they'll stop existing.
>Same thing everywhere else.
Truly the worst generation tbqh. 90% of my close calls on getting run over by cars were 55-80 too, fuck 'em, seriously, all trash, nothing to redeem.

>>77181805
the worst is when they all have those walking poles too, just getting as wide as possible... women's running groups are really bad too
the funniest I've seen is this running group of fat black people that run early weekend mornings and they run in the middle of road or bike path when there is a running path off the road just a few feet away that follows the same path, but you know, not my problem

>>77181876
God last time I saw a couple, like, mid-60s or something.
One of them was taking the whole sidewalk (which could fit three people just fine) with their arms held to the sides a bit carrying small bags, and the other was on the road close by, taking just as much space. The fuck is wrong with these people.

Meanwhile at times I see a guy walking like, at least six dogs, and three cats, whenever he sees someone coming up even from far away, he just calls them all to him on the side in three seconds.

How well does treadmill running translate irl?

I'm signed up for a 5k in two months. Skinnyfat middle-aged alcoholic. I read that a good 5k time for my age range is like ~30 mins so I got on the treadmill today and ran nonstop for 35 just to see if I could. My legs went numb at one point, got some cramps, puked in my mouth a bit but I did it.

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Trail roon. Realized a mile and a half out I forgot my water bottle. Decided to go without it. I think I’m turning into the weird old dude who calls every one brother and run around the woods. Should I just take the hippie runner pill?

ran my first sub-7 minute mile in many years today gentlemen. At 210lbs no less
I regret to inform the crags that WAGMI

>>77182123
It’s fine for building cardio and running stamina but it can miss out on strengthening stabilizer muscles in your ankles, legs and hips that get built when you run on uneven ground outside

>>77182125
People like you are why I carry when I run

guys holy fuck i just ran outside for the first time after only doing indoor tracks and ow ouch my calves hurt ouch

>>77182577
>>77182577
>>77182577
>>77182577

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>>77182579
>>77181418
>>77168478
consistently use sprinters trying to trick people into rooning - never change bitch chat gpt xD

Congrats to everyone who did a roon.
I only got like two in the last 10 days. I wanted to push myself in March then go to gym in April but it was raining basically every day, then of course it switches completely to nice and sunny from April. I guess I can delay the gym by a week as it's Easter and I won't be able to commit anyway. I'm blaming roon if I never get any muscle.

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>7:18/km
typical android user