>26 and autistic>sober from degenerate boozing for 3 years>Sober from weed for 2 years next monh>fat and balding>live at parents >literal NEET and always have been>no sex in 6 years>have two hobbies that I take pride in and work extremely hard at.>The meme of PC and bed every day >Every attempt at healthy living has failed.I'll be quick and simple, I have tried to lose weight thousands of times. I eat basic meals a fucking child would have and have no incentive or motivation to do anything else. I quit harmful habits but am killing myself anyway by eating constant fast food and smoking cigs and drinking energy drinks.Last year I spent a bit of money (from being a retard) on a weight bench and spent 3 months working out solid four days a week. I believed it would help my problems and for a while it sort of did. But after three months, what did I get for my troubles? No visible change to my body and no change in my social life. Literally nothing was different so I gave up. Cut to now, it appears like some good times are ahead. I have been working on my hobbies and had a few fun nights this year already doing one of them (band) and I am talking to a few fats and mids on tinder etc so I have some women who are interested but will most likely lead nowhere.So why cant I get this right? For years and years I've tried at this and I fail. Sometimes for a week, sometimes for months it varies. I think the main reason is because I was never sporty growing up and have the coordination of a newborn deer on ice. Maybe its because I dont know what it feels like to be fit and in shape, full of testosterone and happy.Maybe its because the constant suffering from being a layabout my whole life coupled with overdoing it working out to stop feeling like such a failure burns me out too quickly. Or maybe its because in reality I don't see a world where literally anything in my life changes. I was born with autism that led me to being put in a special school. Who cares?
>>77169604>So why cant I get this right? For years and years I've tried at this and I fail.What does "fail" even mean? What clear idea did you ever even have of success? What were your expectations based on?It sounds like you're beating yourself up a lot over arbitrary expectations. What if you stopped expecting things to happen, and tried *finding out* what happens instead?
>>77169609Autism mate, *finding out* is an alien concept that doesn't exist. I already found out when I did a four day workout plan every week for three months. Sweet fuck all
>>77169604>>77169623>muh 3 monthsHow about you actually commit and stop being gay, mate?
Hello fren, fellow autist here with similar struggles. From my experience the most worthwhile things are obtained not through hard work or perserverance (dgmw those things are great and will benefit you a lot but theres no guarantee that it will give you fulfilment, as we've both seen), but through risktaking. You need to do shit that scares you, shit that spikes your cortisol. Get out of your comfort zone. Make smalltalk with strangers. Aggressively flirt with women you find attracrtive. Ask them out on a date after talking to them twice.Things like working out, reading self improvement slop, takimg cold showers and other autistic self improv habits are nice, but they stop being scary after a short time and you're no longer challenged. It might still require willpower to do them but no courage, and imo thats where growth stops. You need to constantly do things that make you nervous and uncomfortable. Also there's this belief going around that once you do it you feel a sense of profound bliss or soemthing like that but honestly I've found that doesnt apply to me. First time I asked a girl out my entire body was shaking afterwards for almost an hour straight. I can't say it was pleasant but it made me feel alive. And that was def better than the usual boredom apathy I always feel, so 10/10 would do again.Just my $0.02 fren, tldr is you have to learn to get addicted to adrenaline.
>>77169604>3 monthsDon't get overworked there, tubby.>For years and years I've tried at this and I failHave you considered actually sticking to it for years instead?Imagine if someone whined in this way about literally anything else.>I've been to med school for 3 months now, and what do i have to show for it? I'm still not a doctor>I've been going to a dropping out for years now, why don't i have a diploma yet
>>771696233 months is nothing. Takes at least 6 of consistent training to see some results. My advice is don’t start with 4 days off the bat, try a 3 day full body or ULU first and progress from there
>>77169840>>77169840This is exactly what I mean when I made the post. I don't understand you people, believe it or not. I don't want to be lying in a pool of my own sweat hyperventilating four days a week and feeling like shit only to get a somewhat okay feeling of bliss at the end. Why the fuck do I want to feel that way genius? >>77169623 As I just said to the other guy, what exactly is worth the price of admission here mate? Why would I keep going when after all that time I had no fucking change even mentally?
>>77169604>Woe is me for I sufferStop being a bitch and start learning to endure the suffering like everybody else
>>77170008What difference will it make to my life?
>>77170018Then remain a bitch for the rest of your life broIf you wish to achieve something you will suffer that's a fact of life. Nothing comes for free. It took me years to get where I was. Training 4-5 days a week, chugging whey shakes every fucking day. Did I enjoy that? Fuck no but I understood that you must commit to something if you wish to achieve something. But keep yourself in that hole you made. Because it's clearly not your fault.
>>77169604i ain't reading all of that, but that scene in Sopranos was so good. I believe the actual response was, "Yeah, and nothing did. So what? Who gives a shit?" which is even better in the context of the conversation.
>>77169604>>77169623Autism doesn't exist quit the excuse you faggot
you need to change your way of thinking, your perspective. Failing over and over doesn't really teach you anything on its own, you need to do some serious self reflection on your failures to understand why you didn't make it and how to do better next time. For example right now it sounds like you are self-commiserating, no shit that you are gonna give up if you don't believe in yourself or in what you are doing in the first place.>Maybe its because I dont know what it feels like to be fit and in shape, full of testosterone and happy.don't you want to find out? If you just say "it'll never happen to a loser like me anyway" you are cockblocking yourself, do you really want to keep being miserable your whole life just because it's easier?
>>77169604Tirzepatide. Problem solved. And stop being a whiny bitch.
>>77169996Let me repeat: You haven't put in any significant effort or shown any consistency. You want instant gratification and immediate results; you lack patience, a strong work ethic, and a plan for the future. You have that in common with a certain group of people.
And ignore all the retards ITT talking about muh willpower muh discipline. This shit doesn't work. 90% of fatties who lose weight through discipline gain it all back. I was fat since childhood and I'm 34 now and currently at normal BMI thanks to tirzepatide.
>>77170476Shut up fuckface. Stop moralizing obesity.
>>77170481It doesn't matter whether he's fat piece of a shit or a skelly. It doesn't even have to be health or fitness related, the same applies. He's a spiritual darkie.
>>77169604>>But after three months, what did I get for my troubles? No visible change to my body and no change in my social life. Literally nothing was different so I gave up.How much volume were you doing? How often were you progressively overloading? Were you training to failure? Did you fix your shitty sleep pattern? Did you fix your shitty diet to ensure that you were getting adequate protein? No, you fucked about on a bench doing minimal weight, not following a programme, and making no other changes to your lifestyle to maximise results. You did this so you could pretend like you'd actually made an effort, that you are somehow different to all the other losers who don't even bother, but you're not, this pathetic endeavour doesn't even count as effort. Autistic or no, you know that you were intentionally setting yourself up for failure, but instead of doing everything possible to make a positive change, you blamed some nebulous external force, that you "tried" and because you didn't get instant results with no sacrifice, its somehow impossible. You're going to go on hating yourself until you actually accept that nothing worth having comes easily. The reason why a fit body is desirable is scarcity, it's uncommon because it's hard to obtain. Despite the harsh words, it isn't too late. Get out of your comfort zone and start interacting with people. Get a job for a start, you bum, and that will put you in situations where you need to start speaking to people. Sign up for MMA, or a language class and practice socialising, it's a skill like any other, you improve the more you do it. I swear, people like you baffle me. Even if you suddenly got into incredible shape, what do you think would happen? That you'd suddenly wake up with the wit of Oscar Wilde and the charisma of James Dean? That all the fun, beautiful people would turn up at your mum's house and demand you come out to party with and fuck them?
>>77169604It's because u are too results oriented. What happens is you want guaranteed satisfaction you think this will guarantee meaning. But there is no god there is no guarantee. U are enjoying lifting enjoying the desire and the great place u will go u will be strong bih's will mire u, people will b more hospitable to you etc. So three months later u slip out of healthy desire which is when u accept the distance between you and your goal and u turn to surplus enjoyment. The fear of facing reality that u may never get the wholeness u crave from lifting forces you to nitpick and obsess dysmorphic comparisons etc then u give up because u can't stand to reach the end. When u get everything u want and u may not be satisfied. Because we are inherently split subjects way may never ever get satisfaction. The only way forward is to accept this and continue anyways. Don't give up on your dreams desires or fantasies but simply accept that they will probably not give u satisfaction or a completeness or anything. But do it anyways.I just described the lacanian cycle we all go through when chasing goals. The way forward is to just do it anyways. We all sabotage ourselves before making progress because the progress will break the fantasy you have about what u are and put it to test with reality what if in 2 years u see no progress? By quitting now u preserve the fantasy that u could get big if u try. I hope that makes sense these are higher order things
>>77170460I have tried to "find out" and it didnt happen
>>77170611>That all the fun, beautiful people would turn up at your mum's house and demand you come out to party with and fuck them?This is the psychology of incels, and the ever pervasive narcissist shut-ins. You are correct, nothing just happens for you. Everyone must make changes and work towards goals or rot in place.
>>77170766You sound like you are 14. Moping won't help, and you haven't "tried". Trying is a real commitment.
>>77170611I am too old for MMA for fuck sake and my body is too shit to do it anyway. I have beanpole legs despite being fat so im very top heavy. I have no coordination either. I like boxing but again I havent the physical capabilities to do it.I tried and did follow a program and I was lifting to my maximum capacity which wasnt a lot at all. You clearly have no idea what was going on
>>77169604What exactly are you after here? Reading through your replies it doesn't seem like anyone here can say anything you dont already know yourself. What would a satisfactory answer to your question look like? Are you capable of accepting that your failures are all your own and you deserve whatever life you're willing to tolerate?
>>77169996>I don't want to be lying in a pool of my own sweat hyperventilating four days a week and feeling like shit only to get a somewhat okay feeling of bliss at the end.Then don't, lie in pool of your own shit when you stop being capable of wiping on your own and hyperventilate at RHR once your lungs are done being compressed and call it quits.What the fuck do you even want? You have the whole picture, do or don't and shut the fuck about it.
>>77169604Literally all of this could be solved by just hiring two 10/10 hookers and have one of them suck your dick while the other rims your asshole
>>77169832Based
>>77169604OP is literally me fr fr>>77171776For quite some time I felt this creeping dread, that perhaps the true answers we all seek are the simplest ones. We're only Human, the things we need and wish for are not something incomprehensible. However, human brain is the most powerful cope nigga that has ever existed on this planet, and we'll do anything to avoid facing our fears. Add autism both figurative and real to that and we'll find ourselves stuck in a loop of fooling ourselves that were growing, changing and progressing, while our basic needs are unmet and things stay the same.After years of doing therapy for anxiety that didn't really go anywhere. I realised that while my therapist was a really sweet lady who gave me insight into many things I was unaware of. Unironically the biggest service she could have done to me, would be fucking me instead.There is a limit to thinking, just thinking and analyzing won't form habits or change cognitive patterns in our heads, that's not how this shit works.
>>77170865>I tried and did follow a program and I was lifting to my maximum capacity which wasnt a lot at all. You clearly have no idea what was going onDid you change your diet?
>>77171893Weirdo. The best thing for you and everyone around you would be to check yourself into the looney bin.
