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Science has finally figured out the body males need to have to attract a female:

>A new study finds that body fat matters more than muscle size in male attractiveness.

>Men and women across cultures agreed on the most attractive male body type.

>Ideal male bodies had 12-15 percent body fat and a BMI between 23 and 27.

At 6’3” (190.5 cm), a BMI of 25 corresponds to about 200 lbs (91 kg).

At 200 lbs and 10% body fat, that’s 180 lbs of lean mass and 20 lbs of fat. You’re talking about someone who looks like a lean, muscular athlete. Think a well-built wide receiver, a competitive CrossFitter, or someone a few years into disciplined strength training with good nutrition.

Basically, it's confirmed that "bulking" is a meme, trying to be a powershitter or "strong" is silly, and that lean is unironically law.
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>>77191039
>new study
>january
Yawn
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I need to gain 10kg of muscle to get to a bmi of 23 at 5'11
Brutal
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>>77191049
>5'11
It was over before it began, king
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>>77191039
>>Ideal male bodies had 12-15 percent body fat
>At 200 lbs and 10% body fat,
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>>77191039
>men who are strong and lean are attractive
We didn't need a study for this.
>Basically, it's confirmed that "bulking" is a meme, trying to be a powershitter or "strong" is silly, and that lean is unironically law.
I reject the premise that powerlifters are trying to be conventionally attractive through their steength.
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>>77191106
Powerlifters on here keep on talking about this and when guys tried to get good looking bodies they were told to powerlift.
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It's funny how this study basically says crossfit is the best thing for men to do but the tards on here hate on it for some reason.
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>>77191106
>>77191113
They cope with saying that they could easily forcefully kiss and sex "victim weight twinks"
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>>77191039
>What makes a man's body attractive
>Muh BMI...muh BFP
Every-FUCKING-time

Do you want me to show you what kind of body women find to be ideal? Because it's was never a secret.

If you look like this and you've not picked up a girl that simply means that you've never tried.
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>>77191106
>I reject the premise that powerlifters are trying to be conventionally attractive through their steength.
/fit/ always 100% advises people who want to look good to do powershitting.
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>>77191039
It would take less time to do a thorough bulk then a cut than to try and sabotage your recovery and metabolism. I'm also not a pussywhipped cuck boy.
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>>77191039
Imagine spending 6 years in university just to write slop
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>>77191039
Broca Index proven right again
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>>77191133
That's from way back, anyone smart either adds or even prefers higher volume since it compliments a bulking diet in 2 different ways.
>constant eating is required to stay in a bulked state so high frequency lifting gives you much more room for error in diet and prevents excess fat gain even with a substantial surplus
>you recover faster bulking, but during a legit bulk anyone who knows their shit is gonna be overlifting instead of chasing prs resting for several days and pounding milk

>would you rather be able to lift the weight or loose like it
I will not even entertain this. If your muscle and joint fibers are matured and cns is adapted, then muscle gain would come fast and only add to your strength given a proper deload period.

You can either prioritize muscle gain or fat loss. If you lean towards one goal than the other becomes exponentially less possible.
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>>77191133
To beginners.
For a limited time.
Because otherwise you run into this guy's issue >>77191049
If you need a more autistic flowchart, you know what?
Calculate you lean and fat mass at 12% bf, 27BMI.
Bulk until you have that lean mass, cut until you have that fat mass, repeat until you have both at the same time.
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Thought experiment for all you who still think BMI can be used to determine some ideal (THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MIND)

You find this skinny body attractive, right? You'd fuck this chick given the opportunity.
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>>77191158
But you'd also be a chubby-chaser for this chub-chub.

Completely different BMI, and there are plenty of chick in-between that you wouldn't fuck.
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Turns out you can't gain unless if you were eugenics maxxing
You need to feel the fat burn it hurts but you need to crave it.
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>>77191155
What people neglect to mention is how much higher your test is several years into lifting and having the muscle to show for it. It's like steroids if you are very high in test levels, aka you burn fat faster and build muscle faster. If you gave someone trenbolone, they would be lean out while putting on 20lbs. Most lifters just suck, I was on reddit the other day and they all look the same.
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>>77191158
>>77191160
>thinking pointing out that BMI isn't perfect is a dunk in the big '26
dead horse/board
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>>77191039
>once I get lean and muscular then I deserve women
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Bulkbros....its over
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>tfw almost at a loveable bodyfat%
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>>77191152
>anyone smart either adds or even prefers higher volume
On /fit/? No. They avoid volume on here because muh trash volume and muh Mentzer.
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>>77191170
Then why the fuck are we still talking about it like it is?

>But muh BFP
Doesn't tell you where the fat is stored. You want visible abs, but you don't want veins bulging. But you can have veins bulding without having abs.

And again, it's not like it's a secret what a good body looks like. >>77191132

And you still need a good face to go along with it.
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>>77191160
>But you'd also be a chubby-chaser for this chub-chub.
Yeah because she's a redhead
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>>77191189
>does more sets
>can't do more weight and measures prs before fully recovered
I don't know what the fuck is going on but this program is somehow sapping strength. In essence it seems that it is making me considerably weaker.
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>>77191182
Over 50% of this website is literal reddit cucks what do you expect?
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>>77191152
>>77191189
>higher volume
easiest done with body part split but if post about it here you know what happens.
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>>77191039
> At 200 lbs and 10% body fat, that’s 180 lbs of lean mass and 20 lbs of fat. You’re talking about someone who looks like a lean, muscular athlete. Think a well-built wide receiver, a competitive CrossFitter, or someone a few years into disciplined strength training with good nutrition
Thats not a few years of training lmao. 200lbs at near single digit body fat at 5’10 or 6 foot is top .01% of even gym goers which is a small percentage of the population. Science confirms roiding is the way.
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If you want a WOMAN, there is one path to success, that has no requirement but one: total lack of inhibition.
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>>77191039
"Science" told you that the vaccine prevented transmission And that eggs would cause heart disease.
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>>77191039
>Science has finally figured out the body males need to have to attract a female:
>[...] 6'3 [...]
thank you einstein
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>>77191368
women prefer a natural dad bod that you get from surfing or playing ball and not from going to the gym like an incel
pic related the ideal naturally built dadbod
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I'm 5'5"
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>>77191039
How do you expect to get to 180 lbs of lean body mass without bulking?
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>>77191106
>>77191133
Nobody ever suggests "powerlifting."
Also most powerlifters look good. It's only the superheavyweights who are very fat. But /fit/, being incredibly low IQ, somehow then deduces the idea that you shouldn't squat or deadlift.

>>77191121
It says NFL players look good. Does that mean you should play football? Crossfitters lift weights. What this study is saying is that high muscle mass and relatively low bodyfat looks good. Everyone knows this. The best way to get to this is by lifting weights.
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>>77191039
Judaism Today.

Yeah. Im not reading that shit.
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lol you are a retarded bitch. You think you can get to 200 pounds at 10% bodyfat without bulking?
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>>77191039
>uhmmmmm did you know being a 400lb powershitter is actually not attractive to women???
thank you dr egghead, truly you are my greatest ally.
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>>77191039
Yet despite this, 99% of everybody who smashes pussy is not this.
Face > every other physical attribute. If you lack there then work harder on body I guess but it's still less important than whatever you want to call it - charisma, rizz, whatever. I call it haki.
The next most useful thing is already having a woman. Woman on your arm is multiplier. They don't even have to see it they can smell it or something.
Anyways you should lift for your haki not whores
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This is the ideal male body
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>The study included 283 participants from China, Lithuania, and the UK. The participants ranked 15 images of male bodies that varied in shoulder-to-waist ratios and body fat levels.
>The participants ranked
The study is worthless, surveys don't work. People tend to state whatever they think the best answer is, not what's actually true for them. What they SAY turns them on the most might be entirely different from what ACTUALLY turns them on the most.
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>>77191406
That's a roid tranny dummy
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>>77192493
This is
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>>77192592
No its a dad bod to women lol, have you seen the covers for romance novels?
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>>77191124
Which is weird cause everyone has guns.

They can "forcefully kiss" twinks all they want, the twinks will have their way with the women
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>>77191152
>anyone smart
that's the point, people don't know hence they ask and instead of giving them good advice they tell them to powershit.
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>>77191160
Women are much more "narrow" in the types of men they find hot anon
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>>77192633
This
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>>77192633
Women like ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF MEN, INCEL!
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>>77191039
>Tall lean men are attractive to women.
Oh really?

I'm 6ft4 and 196lbs
Very easy to thrist trap women at the beach or a mountain lake.
Too bad my Tism scares them away immediately.
Occasionally women get too drunk to notice the autism, and I'll get to score.
Could be worse
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>>77192792
I'm 5'11, 145lbs and autistic
Never began
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>>77191039
I masturbate to anime women
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>>77192792
This is a larp because women don't care about personality. If you're actually chad then you can stand in a corner mumbling to yourself like a schizo and women will still fling themselves at you while calling it "mysterious" or "brooding" or some other womanbrained bullshit.



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