Most gym products (protein powders, pre-workouts, zero drinks) rely on:SucraloseAcesulfame KAspartameThey do affect your body (subtly)Effects:--> Increase preference for sweetness your brain gets used to hyper-sweet foods--> May increase cravings in some people--> Gut microbiome changes especially with frequent, high intakeI've been considering purchasing unflavoured protein powder from now on, but a large part of the market sells flavoured powders.What’s the general opinion on sweeteners on /fit/?I’m not fully convinced about their long-term safety—we still don’t have enough time or studies to form a completely clear picture. I’d like to understand them better, especially whether they affect insulin like glucose does. Maybe not to the same extent, but who knows. I’ve noticed that I sometimes feel hungrier after consuming products with acesulfame K or sucralose.
>>77194900>What’s the general opinion on sweeteners on /fit/?I think they are obviously not good for you but it all depends on how much you consume, I doubt that drinking one can of zero sugar soda a day is gonna have a significant impact for example. Anyway doesn't basically every protein brand offer an unflavoured option?
>>77194906Yeah, but I meant that flavoured options are the most selled ones
>>77194900Artificial sweeteners have been wotch hunted for 70 years already, and no replicable study done on a decently representative group has ever found a problem with them.
>>77194907true, it's probably harder to to find unflavoured on discount>>77194910https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11501561/
artificial sweeteners can pass the blood brain barrier (at least sucralose and aspartame, not sure on ace-k), which is at least somewhat 2spooky4me in itselfartificial sweeteners also seem to fuck with your gut and gut bacteria, which is a HUGE issue for me. It's not just having the shits, it's also feeling bloated and even if neither of those happen my body just feels wrong if I consume sweeteners. This is not how a healthy body feels like. Stuff laced with ace-K is usually also acidic as hell, which in itself can be shitty for your gut.In such large concentrations and amounts as they are used as additives they are literally NOT FOOD, I don't like the idea of daily consumption of NOT FOOD for no reason other than craving sweetness. Also the "sweetness" they add is a weird, bitter, chemical "kinda-sweet", not really a good kind of tasty sweet.I switched to unflavoured protein powder years ago. It genuinely tastes better than the flavoured shit and since the taste is mild I don't start hating it as fast as I start hating the artificial flavours.
>>77194900I fart less and feel much less bloated overall, I dare to say almost none since I went for unflavored ones. Applies for both vegan and regular whey protein powder.
>>77194917>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11501561/>ctrl + f>leaky gutimmediately disregarded
That gripper is 10 to 15kg max.I can literally pinch it and press it down with my thumb.
>>77194900you could do a similar analysis with basically anything modern. tv, deodorant, social media, digital ads, clothing with plastic in it and microplastics in general, cleanliness (low microbe density). sedentary lifestyles in general, noise pollution (cars, night clubs), abundance and low cost of food, abundance of entertainment.and you would be right
>>77194900I only ate ON chocolate whey for years because it was purely whey and cocoa powder but after switching to vanilla whey with sucralose and drinking more energy drinks with sucralose for another several years I have had no negative health effects and in fact have gotten stronger, bigger, and leaner. Obviously it's not because of sweeteners but they have done absolutely zero damage over 5 years of daily consumption.
>>77195150You're right on this and we shouldn't be extremist on these things, but it wouldn't be bad to be conscious about it and try to minimize the effects
>>77194917If you actually took the time to look through what you posted, you'd see how badly designed the studies were, as well as how poorly drawn the conclusions are. But you can't read, so oh well.
>>77194933Fucking moron. "Large concentrations" my ass. The whole point of them is that you use less to get the same sweetness as sugar.Not liking the flavor is fair, but everything else you said is crap.
>>77194900Id say if you limit your intake to as little as possible, you're fine. You shouldn't have to cut it out 100% if you don't want. One thing to keep in mind is artificial sweeteners are 100x sweeter than table sugar, so their addition to the concoction is marginal in sum.
>>77194900>--> Increase preference for sweetness your brain gets used to hyper-sweet foods >--> May increase cravings in some people >--> Gut microbiome changes especially with frequent, high intakeMomscience
>>77194950Stay away from vegan proteins, guy. That shit has a fuckton of toxic metals in it
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>>77195182Heavy metal concentration increases as you go up the food chain, herbivores can be as high as 10-100x more concentrated in heavy metals than the plants they eat. A plant based diet would actually reduce heavy metals if it wasn't a braindead retarded idea for every other reason.
>>77195166>and try to minimize the effectsbro wtf. i think you mean try to minimize our exposure to the unnatural things because that's the only way of minimizing the effects, because the effects are unknown because it's impossible to prove a casual relationship between causes and problems. sometimes you can, for example some modern problems are so big like asthma or obesity or depression that it's pretty obvious what's going on and you can point to a few modern things which are likely causes. but in general you can't
So i've switched to white monster from coffee a while ago, how badly i'm i fucking myself up?
Today I ate 1 protein bar, 1 pack of yogurt covered cranberries, a large McDonald's fry, 2 double cheeseburgers, and a large Dr pepper. All in all about 2300 calories.
Check out who Rodney Sacks is and how he uses his money.The Monster propaganda must end.
>>77194933>I don't like the idea of daily consumption of NOT FOODThis is really the key point. Hippiescience logic holds that anything NOT FOOD is bad and we should eat only FOOD. This seems like the most self-evident thing in the world, but nerd faggots come out with all this fucking retard nerd talk >>77194910 and these ingredients make their way into every fucking *food adjacent product* because they are cheaper than real food. Then some years later after a thousand meltdowns from RFK jr and your retarded aunt who lives in a bus, the evidence gradually emerges that it is subtly but consequentially negatively impacting your health. Over and over again this keeps happening and will continue to happen for as long as people insist on the daily consumption of NOT FOOD.
>>77195169a very feminine and emotional response
>>77194910a single google search or using literally any AI to ask about it instantly shows you're full of shitI don't get why people want to defend this shit so much, if you want to eat sweets just do it lmaoWe've seen the same copes with tobacco and alcohol over the years
>>77195386because they're more fit-minded and moral if their sweets have less calories, and indirectly asking for the discipline to just forego sweets makes you a bad person pissing on their self-congratulatory paradeThe sweets and sweeteners *MUST* be healthy and fuck you even if they aren't because they must be!
>>77194900I've always only ever bought unflavored. Just put unflavored protein in a mix you make. Then you know you get what you want with it.
>>77195235that's barely 2 meals if you count the protein bar and the yogurt as one meal and the goyslop as the second mealneither of those are even filling how are you not craving more food
>>77195841I ended up going home and had 14 chicken nuggets and 1.5 liters of milk. 3600 calories for the day.
>>77195182Tell me what you think animals eat
>>77194900Drinking even 5 diet pop cans a day is objectively better for you than:Drinking 1 alcoholic drink a weekSmoking 1 cigarette a weekConsuming any amount of bacon, salami or cured meats daily Eating moderate to high amounts of red meat and eggsEating moderate to large amounts of refined sugarBeing fatCope seethe dilate
>>77194933Is your issue with artificial sweetners or added indigestable alcohol sugars-often added to protein bars and the like to pad them out
>>77196146>REEEEEEEEEEE I NEEEEEED MY SWEETSlollmao
>>77196156You lost tranny
>>77196148both are shitsugar alcohols more obviously since your body violently rejects them and they are larger in volumebut there's a continuining stream of studies showing how the common Artificial SweetenerS (ASS) (sucralose, acesulfame K, aspartame etc.) have multiple negative health effects; seriously just do a simple search for that shitIt's simply not good for your health to continously eat ASS and to inject ASS into things you eat, no matter how much retards like >>77196146continue to copebut the sweet-toothed toddlers will continue coping until some OFFICIAL BUREAU or such stamps eating ASS as OFFICIALLY unhealthy, since the sweet babies cannot stand the idea of not getting their daily sweety fix they can feel "healthy" aboutOne should really consider why he feels such a strong need to eat sweets that they even need to resort to constantly eating ASS to cope with it. But that's a step too far for the sweetie babymouths.
>>77196160constantly dumping lab chemicals like sweeteners into your body is extremely trannycoded thoughso is the butthurt reaction to people simply noting that it might not be healthy or good for you
>>77196169truclear winter
>>77194900Literally worse than sugar, enjoy the goyslop
