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>>77197089
Question for you: what does QTDDTOT mean?
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>>77197089
Is this a retarded leg day routine? I kind of don't know what I'm doing and most online programs assume you have full freeweights while I'm still using my apartment gym with just dumbbells and a smith machine.

Tuesday:
Treadmill
Smith squats
Dumbbell Single leg Romanian Deadlift
Dumbbell Bulgarian Split Squats
Smith calf raises

Friday:
Treadmill
Smith goodmornings (I wanted to do deadlifts but the smith machine won't go low enough for them)
Dumbbell bulgarian SS
Dumbbell SL RDL
Smith calf raises
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>>77197145
If you don't know what you are doing, you shouldn't be doing leg days at all.
Do a full body workout of as many compounds you can (squat, bench, rdl, ohp, bent over row) and throw in any accessorices you want at the end. Do that 2 to 4 times a week, leaving a rest day in between each workout day.
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Somehow I can floor press 120 lbs but not paused bench press 120 lbs even though I'm able to get my arms past parallel with the floor when I do paused bench press. How is that possible? What's going on?
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>>77197189
You answered your own question. Floor presses are easier than bench presses. A full rep of a floor press is basically a partial rep of a bench press.
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>>77197145
Do you not have access to a barbell but only a smith machine? very weird
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>>77197212
Yeah my apartment just has dumbbells, a smith machine, a lat pulldown machine, and a much of cardio machines.
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>>77197089
How do I properly perform a push-up and squat?

Are my arms supposed to bend outward 90° or inward at a 45° angle?
How high up should they be; parallel to my shoulders or to my chest? Should I be forward on toes or lean back more on the balls of my feet? Should my feet be together or spread apart?

When I'm squatting, should my knees go beyond my toes or stay behind them?
Should my back be perfectly straight going up and down or should I be leaning forward as I go down?
Should I crane my neck up as I squat or only keep my eyes up?
Staying on my heels and lifting my toes causes me to stumble backwards when I squat; how do I stop this?
My chest keeps bending over when I squat; how do I stop this?
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>>77197326
>Are my arms supposed to bend outward 90° or inward at a 45° angle?
Arms should be out at a 45 degree angle
>How high up should they be; parallel to my shoulders or to my chest?
Idk what you even mean by that. Arms should be out at a 45 degree angle.
>Should I be forward on toes or lean back more on the balls of my feet?
Balls of your feet.
>Should my feet be together or spread apart?
Together. They can be apart as a temporary measure if you have shitty balance but you should work towards being able to do pushups with them together.

>When I'm squatting, should my knees go beyond my toes or stay behind them?
Beyond
>Should my back be perfectly straight going up and down or should I be leaning forward as I go down?
Lean forward but keep the spine straight
>Should I crane my neck up as I squat or only keep my eyes up?
Keep the spine straight
>Staying on my heels and lifting my toes causes me to stumble backwards when I squat; how do I stop this?
Don't lift your toes. Do it with weight evenly distributed across your feet.
>My chest keeps bending over when I squat; how do I stop this?
Once you can't go lower without your chest bending over or your lower back rounding, you have reached the end of your range of motion. Don't go lower than the lowest you can without breaking form, and start doing stretches to improve your range of motion over time.
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My workout is
>M: chest and neck
>T: squats and forearms
>Th: back
>F: deads and core

What kind of accessorizing can I do on Thursday?
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>>77197352
Thank you. I mean where should my arms and hands be in relation to my body when performing the push-up. Here's a pic to better visualize what I mean.
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I've been thinking about going to the gym.
For the last half a year I've been trying to lose weight and only been running and doing calisthenics outside, which is something that probably would have been better in the summer than in the winter. But now that I lost a bit of weight, I've been thinking about going to the gym, just for 2 months to bulk up a bit, so I can go back to exercising outside in the summer, shirtless and fat.
Coincidentally, I just got an email from the gym I used to go that they are having a 60 day competition to get in shape for the summer. It has an entry fee, they give a training plan that I probably wouldn't follow, a diet that I probably wouldn't follow, and two InBody scans that's kind of the same electrical impedance I could get at home, and they will have a Facebook group that I really don't need. So kinda useless but it's like the universe wants it.
But then also it starts on April 20 I think, and it's really time I go to the gym now, I would have wanted to go from April 1 but waited because of Easter. So I don't know if I wait, enter or not. I need to have an active membership at the start and end, and gym isn't cheap. What do I do?
a) I go now, do my own challenge, don't care about the gym's shit
b) I wait and I do the challenge
c) I go now, then do the challenge, either extend to 3 full months, or have a week's break in the middle
d) I just don't go to the gym
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>>77197381
Ah. Then yeah it should be #3, a 45 degree angle. That makes me wonder what you meant for your first question then. Did you mean the angle of your forearms? I do it with my hands slightly wider than shoulder width and slightly below them. Angle of the forearm and humerus changes as you do the push up.
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>>77197374
>neck and forearms are key focuses
>biceps, triceps, and delts are all afterthought accessories
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>>77197388
>should I start working out now
>or wait until I can pay for a program I'm not going to follow
>I would have wanted to start earlier, but I put it off because of the dumbest reason I've ever heard
You should keep putting it off
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>>77197326
I've always wanted to ask these questions. To do pushups or squats suddenly gets really complicated when you want to do these regularly, in large volume, without ever risking injury due to form. But because they're BW exercises everyone blows them off, which is really not helpful imho.

I will be watching the thread with anon above's query but I have my own question: I just have pain in my elbows. Hurts a lot with extension? Namely pushups and throwing my cross in boxing. But, for example, if I do pushups against a chest-height ledge and I lower my hands to below my chest, there is no elbow pain. I raise my hands higher, there is. I think it's linked to pushups. Here's a rough image of how it feels. Sorry if it's schizo and SO super autistic that I've never been doing pushups right.

///SCHIZO RANT INCOMING///

I dunno. On a flat plane, from your toes to your head and lying flat on your face to the ground, prostrate, I just felt my pecs better when my hands, flat on the floor, were closer to my head than to my pecs or navel. But I was also doing wide/"girl" pushups and spamming them many years ago. Now I'm trying to do normal pushups and believe that pushups is just a benchpress with your BW against the floor. But when I try to replicate the same form I do on the machine bench press which really targets my pecs (with the hands closer to the navel and wrists turned inwards ofc), I don't feel anything. Nothing. No adjustments do anything so I can feel that great pectoral push. But BUT, when I do the same form on the window ledge, I may not feel my pecs as much, but I can push myself off the ledge with much more power which would require the power of the large pectoral muscles and not just the triceps. So what gives??

Also, doing pushups with your hands so low (so that I don't feel pain) is so low that it almost feels like a planche pushup. Isn't that too much?
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>>77197481
Me again. If anyone is schizo enough also to comprehend all this, much less answer all this, that would be very much appreciated. When not, fair enough. And I've completely blown over the most important part which is my elbow pain.

In short: I have elbow pain. Not sure if it's caused by pushups or boxing but I think it is. Before I take up training again, should I just rest and it'll fix itself? Or do I have to see a doctor and not know how to describe anything other than "It hurts when it bends"?
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>>77197495
See a physical therapist. You probably need to rest while doing specific exercises and stretches to assist with healing it. Angled push ups don't hurt because they are easier and put your elbows under a significantly lower weight load than real push ups.
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>>77197206
No, if you can make it up to parallel with the floor then it makes no sense to be able to do floor press but not bench press.
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ive stopped putting the little stoppers at the end of my barbells because the weights dont seem to shift anyway. is that okay?
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>>77197778
Those are mainly as a safety measure for people who have strength imbalances and will fail with the lifts at an angle as a result. If you are experienced enough that you've evened out your bilateral strength, or you can tell when you will fail and stop before then, you're fine.
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>>77197620
>anon can do partial reps of a bench press
>he can also do partial reps of a bench press
>that makes no sense
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What's the least I can do and make gains?
Im obese but I do have sum lifting experience. I am in a pretty tough situation.
I work in the ICU and I'm pretty shot after work and don't like wasting sleep either. I need my 8 hrs. Plus I habe a baby on the way
I usually have 2 days in a row off so what split do I do? I wish I could get by with ring pushups kettlebell swings and neutral grip chinups for 10 sets per week but some faggot would prollu say that's too little volume. It's all too complicated anon.
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>>77197778
I didn't put them last time and I've made the weight fall and almost hit someone in the feet, I felt ashamed after that because it was only 5kg plates on an ez bar (but it was at the end of my routine and I was tired tbdesu)
>>77197945
>What's the least I can do and make gains?
>Im obese but I do
Roids then, with low volume you'll still be better than most normies
>baby on the way
Then you probably don't want to die in the next 10 years so just work out slowly first, I'd say do a upper lower if you only have two days (in a row or not)
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anyone know how much more protein you should be eating during a bulk? like if i'm already eating 1 gram per pound of body weight at maintenance, would adding another 25 grams cut it?
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what does copecel mean?
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>>77197867
The bottom part of a bench press is mostly chest, and the rest of it is mostly triceps, so it doesn't make sense that you could do both parts of the rep individually but not together. It's like that Family Guy bit where he says "say cool, now say whip", and he can say both words fine individually but inexplicably still fucks up the term "cool whip". It doesn't make sense.
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>>77197453
Thanks, that's one vote for option d) then. I don't think it was a dumb reason, it isn't worth it to buy a month pass if I know there's one week I won't be able to go. But right, it really doesn't want to come easy.
I'm currently gluing back the soles of my shoes which came off in the washing machine to give a/c a chance, but it might as well be option b now, damn time's going fast.
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What's the equivalent of a 2pl8 bench when doing weighted dips? I don't have anyone to spot me at my home gym so I've mainly been doing them for chest.
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>>77198325
Depends on your body weight. Since you weigh 500lbs, you are good without adding weight.

More seriously, dips kind of hit the same muscles but they aren't a direct analog. You should treat them as a different exercise and find your working weight with them the old fashioned way.
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>>77198340
Thanks.
I've already been able to do 10 reps with 85 pounds added so I was wondering how it compared to bench.
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>>77198457
Oh. Well, if you're already at your working weight the comparison really does depend on your bodyweight. Direct translation would literally be bodyweight+added weight=bench weight, but again dips are really an analog for a neutral grip decline dumbbell bench press, not a standard barbell bench press.
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Where do my felllow yuropoors buy their whey nowadays? Recently picked up lifting again and was considering buying some whey from myprotein like I used to 10+ years ago, but noticed their prices are like 2-2.5 times as high as they used to be (from ~10€/kg to ~25€/kg). Local shops seem to sell their stuff for the same price aswell. Is there any better to place to buy it from?
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how does bench press engage chest when im pushing with my arms? same with lat pull downs, barbell row etc. where is my back working? i feel my back working when i do pull ups albiet
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>>77198581
>bench press
When you have your upper arm arm out or backwards and move it such that your elbow goes closer to your chest, that is from your chest contracting. Your triceps are what contract to straighten the elbow
>rows/pulldowns
When you have your upper arm forwards or overhead, your back is what contracts to bring your elbow closer to your back. Your biceps and brachialis are what contract to bend the elbow.
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I was a little overweight and I'm too lazy to work out so I asked /fit/ about wearing a 40lb shirt to work every day and they said don't do it bro you're going to cripple yourself.
So I did it anyway for 10 hours every weekday for 7 months now and I'm not crippled yet, when are all my joints going to get fucked up and my skeleton going to explode? You promised me total skeletal failure.
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>>77198611
What's your posture like?
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>>77198617
Idk. Not bad?
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Is cooking most of my meals on scratched teflon pans a big deal?
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Dumb fucking question, but can I just work through doms?
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>>77198787
Not a stupid question. It is better not to train whatever muscle group has the DOMS for at least a day. You can however just train any part of the body that isn't experiencing DOMS.
>>77198766
Probably not a big deal but pan's aren't expensive, so you may as well buy a new one. Use wooden utensils in the future.
>>77198581
Physics. Your arms are levers for the muscle being used. The best way to understand this is to feel your muscles when using them.
>>77198611
Just stop eating so much and you don't have to worry about dumb shit like this.
>>77198457
You would have to actually bench to find out but that's strong so I would imagine you could 2pl8
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>>77198827
>Not a stupid question. It is better not to train whatever muscle group has the DOMS for at least a day. You can however just train any part of the body that isn't experiencing DOMS.
Thanks, appreciate it!
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Just got a a crapton of MREs to offload the work of counting calories to the US military. Each one is like 4 dollars when you buy in bulk, and since everything's expensive in my state these are pretty freakin cheap.
Does anyone know if there's a downside to using these while trying to work-out body fat? Each one is like 1100 to 1300 calories and they've got a fuckton of electrolytes. I'm feeling more energetic than I usually do, but idk if it's the MREs or my will to get fit.
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>>77198827
>Just stop eating so much
Woah buddy I don't have the willpower to diet and I'm too lazy to exercise. Exercise sucks and going to work sucks so I figured why not combine them and kill two birds with one stone?
The weighted shirt worked fairly well. The gooks at work went from saying "are you pregnant?" to saying "you're looking fairly trim now"
My legs and shoulders definitely got bigger but I think I'll start wearing wrist weights to work to even things out a bit. There don't seem to be any commercially available wrist weights that are heavy and slim enough to conceal under clothing but I got some 5lb tungsten leg weights that I could probably wear on my arms.
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>>77198841
Not enough protein and they taste like ass.
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Assuming I do work in some upperbody stuff here and there, can I just do bodyweight legs every day?
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>>77198034
I know my question is stupid but that's the purpose of this thread
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>>77198860
No. Don't work out the same muscles every day. You should do legs in proper lower body days in a program while resting upper body, but if you hate working out legs that much, do cardio with a weighted vest.
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>>77198918
-cel is a prejoritive suffix implying the person is a virgin. Coping refers to either taking unhelpful actions to mask negative feelings without addressing the problem, or making up bullshit rationalizations for something.

Put together, a copecel is a prejorative for someone who makes up bullshit rationizations, and is implied to be a virgin as an added insult. In the context of lifting, it could also refer to someone who tells themself they'll get laid if they lose weight or grow muscle, which is self deception because they're also a short, balding autist.
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Do guys named Herman ever get laid? Wouldn't that make dirty talk super awkward?
>Touch my vagina, Herman
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>>77198996
I know a guy who goes by his middle name Herman and has 6 kids. Herman is better than some alternatives, such as Jaden in the example I'm thinking of.
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>>77198921
>but if you hate working out legs that much,
It's actually the opposite haha, I love working legs, but in a broader context the daily aspect was specifically to improve leg strength and mobility for martial arts.
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>>77199019
Oh, I pegged you wrong then. You should do heavy squats once a week, lighter squats a second day, and unilateral squats (bulgarian SS), hip abductions, and leg extensions both days. The rest of the week don't do any dedicated leg exercises, but practice kicking technique every day. Recovery time is important.
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>>77198103
I was able to lift it today, so maybe my technique was off on the other attempts.
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>>77199030
Thank you, I appreciate the advice!
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>>77198558
>to ~25€/kg)
Bro wtf it's like 40€/kg here in France on average
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do I follow up with the urologist or my senpai dr for sperm count post vasectomy?
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>>77199138
Maybe a Urologist, but really you should check with a Proctologist. The sperm count there is what really matters, and a Proctologist can check to make sure you don't get Bregnant.
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Would you go to a mid gym that's walking distance away or a good gym that you would have to drive to?
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>>77199650
Go to whichever one you will actually go to. If you'll skip workout days because you can't be bothered to go to the further one, go to the closer one. What does a "mid" gym mean, anyways? If it has dumbbells and a smith machine, its operable. If it has dumbbells and barbells, its perfectly fine as long as it isn't so crowded you'd need to wait in line to use equipment. If its literally just dumbbells, then you can make it work as a temporary measure. If its just cardio machines and maybe exercise bands, then if thats your only gym option you should find a park and do calisthenics.
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is /fit/ dead? i feel like threads linger for like 2 weeks
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>>77199788
it's down to less than 1/10th of its peak numbers (from back in 2012/2013)
https://4stats.io/
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>>77199788
blame the m*ds who let the board become a cesspool of r9k garbage. it's almost completely worthless nowadays if you're looking for actual fitness advice or discussion. just dogshit tfwnogf, looksmaxxing, reatarded baits, derailing threads that at least try to stay on topic, iscoffeegoodforyou?? and similar dregs. call me a conspiracy theorist but i truly believe it's been done on purpose, can't have men try to better themselves, no.

and go ahead janny, ban me for complaining about staff. just know that you're actively making the world a worse place than it already is.
fuck you. truly, from the bottom of my heart - fuck you
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Psyllium husk is giving me the shits. Isn't that supposed to be the contrary? Chia seeds are fine.
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>>77197116
Quit That Digeri Doo Training Over There
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>>77199828
Lmao
Your bowels operate based on past diet and then fiber is the boat, fat is the river
If you eat something and it gives you the shits, obviously stop lmao
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>>77199797
It was unironically too busy back then

>>77199650
Any gym wi
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>>77199835
>>77199650
Any gym with barbells, racks and dumbbells
The one closest to your home is usually best unless there's some shit that happens there that impede your workout or drive to go
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>>77198860
Yes but why tf would you lmao

>>77198787
Your body only repairs for 48 hours
Due to the taper, that means you should be 90+ % recovered by day 2 and 100% by day three
If you have done on day three, you're doing too much volume, not enough cardio or not eating enough
Gains happen at the end of the 48 hour window when your body is still repairing but doesn't need it so it builds mass
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>>77198581
Arms should be ~30° down from perpendicular to your spine mirroring the line from your inner lower chest to your shoulder
This allows your chest to fully contract/load from the movement
Arching a bit helps also, keep your shoulders pulled down towards your hips, hit below your nipples, don't move shoulder position during the press

Rowing has similar requirements
Keep your shoulders down, keep your torso stationary, don't move your shoulder position
Your torso should be about 5° above parallel with the floor, row off the floor if you have long arms
Rows generally thicken your back and pullups generally widen your back
How effective each are depends on your form, grip width and how heavy you lift
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>>77197778
You should never ever use them on bench anyway
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How do I tell my self-conscious gf that I want her to work out so she actually has some ass? We've been together for over two years and she takes it as a given that we'll get married eventually. As long as she isn't fat she is happy, but I need more.
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>>77197326
For squatting form, you should be able to sit all the way down ass to grass comfortably otherwise you're putting bad pressure on some joints
That's why I recommend starting your squat form in the hole and optimizing from there
An efficient squat keeps the weight mid foot, knees track naturally out and forward from the feet and you keep your torso as vertical as possible while keeping weight mid foot
Even lowbar should be done this way
Rippetoes only real misstep was that atrocious squat form pic on the cover of SS
T. 4pl8 atg lowbar skwatter under 10% bf
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>>77199854
You have to casually bring it up lightly multiple times
All she really has to do is hip thrusts and cardio



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