Can't get a GLP-1 prescription because I'm too fit (~14% body fat).Can't get ephedra because I'm in Germany.Already maxed out on caffeine (400-600mg).How effective of an appetite suppressant are nicotine pouches? I'm willing to accept an addiction. But will the appetite-suppressing effects wear off over time?
Cigarettes are good for you. Don't fall for the jewish propaganda, Hans
>>77203577When I tried zyns out for a month a few years back I definitely ate a bit less. They often made me nauseous because the dose was too high, and the first few times I tried them I kept them in for too long.But the taste and the burning feeling was horrible, plus they made me need to take a shit more frequently. Then there were the chest/windpipe pains. Horrible stuff.
>>77203631After that month, did you have any trouble quitting?
>>77203577Imagine picking up a nicotine addiction to get skinny.
>>77203640Nope. Zero. No habit whatsoever. Less addictive than a lunchtime coffee for me.
>>77203577Imagine being too much of a cuck to go get grey market glp1 agonists.
>>77203577>dehydrating>muh abz in mirrur >lower carbs in muscle and protein synthesis>worse metabolism = more fat gainIt doesn't really make a difference but chronic nicotine and caffeine of modern standards do this to a degree. Same with anything that lowers hydration and shit like low salt, low carb, fasting. If you want to be able to maintain a lower bf% get big, then more fat is a lower bf% even if it's more fat on your body, it looks more spread out. The fact that you'd even opt for ozempic is either a joke or you are playing labrat with your body. If cheating isn't a problem look into retatrutide, ephedrine, L-carnitine, etc I've only heard of these because of people who can only get big with steroids and need even more drugs to get lean even with 2000+ testosterone levels.
>>77203783>I won't even drink more than 1 or 2 beers or I'll get tipsy and it'll all turn to flab
>>77203577glp 1s aren't hard to get off the grey market you stupid retard idiot
>>77203836How can I make sure they don't contain contaminants? Or getting fined.
>>77203851>get big, then more fat is a lower bf% even if it's more fat on your body, it looks more spread out.I do it for my face, not the sixpack. Also, my muscles are already maxed out (10 years of training).
>>77203878But it's illegal and there is a chance of getting caught.Sure, Reta is not technically illegal, but it will be after it's approved. I need a long-term plan.
>>77203899Measurements are bogged though just go for whatever you think is aesthetic and healthy. I go to a little leaner than is peak health so I can get a good bulk or 2 in, overuse of stimulants can have an effect mainly withdrawal and dip allows for a way higher amount of nicotine in your bloodstream. Try just lifting more so that if you do have a bigger meal it's mostly muscle gain. You'll wanna rest more and lift less on a cut but it'll take way longer.
Nicotine has too many downsides despite having some positive stuff. I don't find the trade beneficial , plus there is the risk that you happen to be between the unlucky folks that get attached. I would rather deal with the hunger raw, in the old fashion way. If you want a harmless tip increase your fiber intake. I eat a big bowl of cruciferous vegetables before I eat. I cook and chop broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower, sometimes arugula as well. I season them with tomato sauce. I am already half full by the time I start eating and I have only ate below 200 Kcal. It's not a zero calorie trick like drinking a sugar free monster but sometimes you can't always win and you have to compromise, lose a battle so you can win the fight.
>>77203902I dont have any issue getting mine. you can get semaglutide (ozempic) the same way, and its cheaper after being approved. your loss pussy. retatrutide is fucking godly.
>>77203940Are you from the EU? Can you give me more info?
>>77203946no but it doesnt matter because my source has a EU warehouse along with a USA warehouse, etc. if you got telegram or discord post it and ill give up the source
>>77204002Can you send it to geileszeuch1@gmail.com?I don't want to post my real contact info here.
>>77203926>If you want a harmless tip increase your fiberI've already maxed out my nutrition:- 1.5g/lb protein- >1kg fruit + veg a day (makes me shit 3+ times)- psyllium husk, glucomannanIt doesn't matter how I eat. When I approach 12%, I get ravenous, lethargic, and food obsessed. It's not even the good kind of hunger that makes you more productive; I can barely focus on anything.
>>77203577Why are you even obsessed with 10% bf?>too high to be professional bodybuilder>too low to be healthy long termI guarantee you 99.9% of people in the world won't even be able to tell the difference between 10 and 15% bf.I even wonder if you ever been close to 10% bf because I have a suspicion you have no idea what it looks like.
>>77204150>Why are you even obsessed with 10% bf?Because it looks fucking amazing. Especially the face.>I even wonder if you ever been close to 10% bfPic was me at my lowest. Not 10%, but probably 12%. I can get there short-term, but I can't maintain it.I would be happy with 12, but my body prefers 14-15%
>>77204155that pic is dogshit so it's hard to tell but based on barely any muscle definition it's closer to 20% than 12% and I'm not even trying to shit on you. That's why I'm saying most people were never close to 10% and have no idea what it actually looks like.
>>77204165What % is this then?I got a dexa scan 2 hours after the picture was taken, or are you a dexa denier?
>>77204186Dexa is dogshit and extremely inaccurate yes. I would say that's like ~15%. Would be nice to also know your bodyweight. and you look great btw.
>>77204165most retarded faggot on /fit/ showed up again
>>77204165There are veins all over my abs. The lack of muscle definition is because of depleted glycogen (from the kcal deficit). It looks better after refeeding. It looks better after refeeding.
>>77204165>>77204204Nta but you are completely wrong. He's at least 13%. He has all the definition and veins of a 12-13%. You just don't have a clue what you're talking about or what 15% or 20% looks like.
>>77204204I’m not arguing over whether dexa is or isn’t accurate, I simply don’t know, and this was the only time I ever got measured by any technique. The dexa said 12.6%6’4 188 in the pictures (end of a cut), also age 40 if that matters The dexa also said only 8oz of visceral fat which I guess is a good thing
>>77204186What's your nutrition like? Looking great.
>>77204255Pretty clean, 3200kcal maintenance, I was cutting on 2600kcal. Macros at 3200 are:260g protein 350g carbs75g fatsIn the cut, I just dropped 600kcal worth of carbs (150g ish)… Protein from eggs, chicken, venison, whey etc, Carbs from whole grain breads, rice, oatmeal etc, Fats from eggs and meatsAnd full disclosure I take 3iu of GH every am before 30mins of fasted cardioI’m going to be bulking soon on 3500kcal, I’ll go into about 215lbs bodyweight
>>77204114okay I sent it. I gave you 2 sources. first one is where i ordered my reta from USA but its all gone for now. theres a EU warehouse and an international. second source is where i plan to buy from next
>>77204165>>77204204you keep saying this shit in every thread where bf % comes up but have never provided a justification or explanation>can't trust DEXA, DEXA is shit>can't trust calipers, calipers are shit>can't trust consensus, everyone's wrongso then what nigger, are we supposed to trust that you, a rando on 4chan, are better at gauging bodyfat than calibrated tools designed and tested to do exactly that as well as every other person who thinks they can accurately estimate bf %? if so, why? i think it's much more likely that you have no idea what 10% actually looks like
>>77204270>>77204271Thank you both
nic pouches definitely work for suppressing appetite and improving focus and aren't even hard to quit if you just ween yourself down to a lower mg and take like 1-2 a day before you stop.
