Alcohol is the only thing really worth a fucking shit

>>77216716
I love propranolol so much bros

>>77216729
You will just be drunk but with social anxiety.
Also people with social anxiety lack social skills because they never use them. There is no drug for that. You may think booze makes you all smooth n shit with the ladies but you're just drunk weirdo nobody wants to be around.

t. had social anxiety for decades. Finally went to therapy and got over it in about 2 years of weekly sessions.
Its hard work and it will not be fucking easy.

>>77216743
Simply not true. The alcohol removes my social anxiety. Of course it doesn't actually improve soical skills, I was never under that delusion

>>77216743
I disagree, I have social anxiety and alcohol cures it. I have normal social skills but anxiety prevents me from interacting.

>>77216745
So for a few hours on the weekend, you're able to hold a drunk conversation with other drunken idiots.
And then in the next day you're the same scared, mentally ill loner but now you have a hang over and still no woman came home with you.
Keep up the good work. In another 20 years you'll still be posing frogs and asking the same question as your entire life is wasted because you've been told by dyel incels on an anime pedo image board that therapy is a jewish scam for women and fags.

>>77216757
tell us all about the friends you made and the women you've had from having a few beers a couple of nights a week to temporarily hide the symptoms of your mental disorder

>>77216765
Im gay so talking to women isn’t even a challenge to me. Are straight men actually afraid of taking to women?
And yeah I’ve made friends from alcohol because it removes anxiety and reveals my normal self, the only downside is that i can’t be permanently drunk

>>77216772
>Are straight men actually afraid of taking to women?
If they have social anxiety, yes
>drunk is my normal self
you have serious issues

>>77216781
Why would you be afraid of taking to women? Women are literally less threatening than men on every level. Women are more kind and won’t randomly attack you for no reason like men.

>>77216772
Of course bro. A woman’s greatest fear in life is that a man will murder her and a man’s greatest fear is that a woman will laugh at him

>>77216716
>what do you take/what are some recommendations?
Really avoid religion, at least Christianity if you live in the US, it'll make your dependent and overall worsen anxiety.

Alcohol is bad, but will not harm you as much.

>>77216797
>why are people with social anxiety afraid to socialize?
ok so you're just here to get start arguements

>>77216817
Christ heals all

>>77216824
Lying is wrong, even if it brings new converts to your sect.

>>77216825
Ok Achmed. Or Hymie or whatever your name is.

>>77216734
Do you take anything else?

>>77216716
> social anxiety
anxiety isnt cured through medication.

anxiety is a rubber band effect,
a mental one compared to the physical one that is recognied by being a beginner at the gym.

a beginner goes to the gym and his muscle experence newfound pressure for the first time.
pressure and fatigue in areas that hasnt been recognised/registered before and the "beginner doms"?
is worse than any physical fatigue than anything else until your "physical rubber band" has adapted to:
new experience of the physical power.

> you need to adapt your mental rubber band.
christianity will only worsen this, christianity is something that denies life and living, as in lived consequence.

you need to get out, try to speak out loud when you read books and say hi/bye to people to engage beginner social skills.
you always begin mental power rubber band adaptation just like anyone else, everyone starts in the center of the eye of the storm.

each time you feel the storm, you feel the pressure oscilating within and you want to go back to the center again where its calm.
you need to keep feeling the waters out, until the eye of the storm grows bigger and bigger until the blurry chaos becomes neutral.

some peoples rubber bands are just more experienced just like an average gym goer who doesnt feel beginner doms after the gym.
you need to keep being sociable and engage in social experiences until it doent bother you.

>>77216853
I would agree but my nervous system has been broken from birth, it needs to be restrained with drugs or hyper react to any stimulus.

>>77216867
tried mma to release excess energy on a punching bag and help center yourself?
with the post workout feeling after the gym to feel more stable through the day?

id also recommend going on a fish diet with mostly white fish and broccoli, carrots and potatoes.

>>77216853
While I mostly agree with you, brains are an organ like any other, sometimes you need medication to cope with chemical unbalances.

>>77216853
>atheist enters non-religion thread just to wage war against something he doesnt even believe exists

>>77217126
Your faith doesnt exist?

>>77217138
You know exaclty what I mean and you're just here to start arguments so fuck off

>>77216734
tell me about this pls, is it just to prevent the heart pain of anxiety attacks?

>>77217207
Its a beta blocker that is retarded to take without medical supervision.
Its prevents blood pressure and heart rate from soaring during anxiety. Its doesnt eliminate anxiety but it can prevent the spiraling out of control effect where you become even more anxious because the symptoms of anxiety can create even more anxiety.
Just take a fucking xanax instead if you must take a pill.

>>77216835
I also take GABA and LTheanine for stress

>>77217207
I am the anon you responded to. I got mine from my doctor.
I get the physical symptoms of "anxiety" which is essentially excessive adrenaline and cortisol at inappropriate times. Racing heart, short of breath, shaky hands, muffled ears, feeling of doom, all for no apparent reason. I don't usually get the mental symptoms of anxiety (like spiraling thoughts), so I don't like valium, xanax, etc because those affect you mentally. Beta blockers don't affect your cognitive abilities at all (if anything they make me more clear headed). It acts like a governor on your fight or flight nervous system so you don't have the physical symptoms.

>>77217219
>Just take a fucking xanax instead if you must take a pill.
Retarded take.

>>77217219
>>77217245
thanks for the replies, any side effects?, how big of a dosage are you on? I read it can cause ED at higher doses

>>77217268
If you mean propranolol DO NOT take it unless you are about to go into situation that triggers anxiety.
Taking a beta blocker daily without good reason (high blood pressure) is a good way to die

>>77216716
>>77216743
this isn't the way
You have 'social anxiety' because people around you are retarded and evil

>>77217268
Xanax is highly adictive and damages your brain on long term, you shouldn't take it unless you really need.

>>77216716
>propranolol
You already figured it out, how'd you get it?

>>77216853
>christianity is something that denies life and living,
Gaytheists don't reproduce.

>>77217430
Generally, social anxiety types are the ones who are retarded and evil while people around them suffer from their shenanigans.

>>77216853
>christianity is something that denies life and living, as in lived consequence.
Christianity isn't gnosticism.

>>77216716
L-Citrulline helps my mood and improves my anxiety

>>77216853
>and say hi/bye to people to engage beginner social skills.
I've tried this, but I weird people out because my social skills are so fucking terrible, and then I feel worse and it becomes a negative spiral. I've actually had a better time realizing I don't need to talk to people if I don't want to and just staying the 'quiet one'.

>>77217617
Please explain what you think Paul was teaching.

>>77216716
Lifting and socializing
>but muh anxiety
Doesn't matter it's the only fix

>>77217751
Denying your physical body is a sin, that's why suicide is bad in Christianity. It's typical gnostic stuff though.

>>77217762
Oh, okay, so you've never actually read the Bible. Carry on.

>>77217617
> Christianity isn't gnosticism.
didnt say that, christianity banned gnosis and anything that was magical within people and their cultures.
all in order to become relevant to new people and expand into europe, it forced other people to stop believing.

ie; anti-life and impairs the metabolizing life affirming lived consequence.
christianity is the inverse of embracing the world, life and living as it destroys culture.

it only knows how to be stagnant and only survives by playing on the dynamics of universalism
"you are damned to the hellfire because of the sin of adam, eating the apple turned all of humanity corrupt"
in other words, there is no innocence in the life of a christian.

you are all filth, damned to the "hellfire" which is a relatively unique concept compared to any pre-christian culture.
christians are alone with the idea that demons are inherently "bad" in nature, no different than the conversion of nero into satan.

>>77217667
the point is, that you need to keep testing the waters out.
dont force yourself into a deep conversation, just greet people and take walks.
thats the beginning of expanding the eye of the storm until the calm of the center of it all is all that exist.
thats the rubber band, it expands and falls back into place but if you never stimulate social experiences?
then that rubber band gets all fucked up, it doesnt know how to expand or fall back into place properly.

in the end, it gets all wrinkly, forms cracks everywhere until potentially even snaps.

you just need consistent stimulation until it stops feeling weird and increase stimulus when things dont feel significant.

>>77216716
>>77216729
Kys

>>77217761
>normie meme response
socializing actually makes social anxiety worse because more often than not it reinforces your cognitive distortions.

>>77217769
ignoring your atheist rants, you have no idea what your talking about. You're just spouting gibberish about rubber bands.
These threads always full of normoids who never had social anxiety giving meme advice about social anxiety.

>>77218180
Lifting weight actually breaks down your muscles. - in the short term. The same with socializing. It may cause more anxiety at first until you adapt and become stronger and acclimated to the norms of society. And then your anxiety will slowly diminish. This is literally the basis of a very effective therapy called exposure therapy. Hiding from a problem caused by mental imbalance for your entire life and never trying to fix it because it may cause short-term pain is a losing strategy and will only lead to failure over the long term.

>>77218317
oh its the exposure therapy retard from the last thread.
You're just repeating memes. Fuck off

>>77218333
Yes, everyone who says something that's accurate that you objectively disagree with because you refuse to improve yourself must be the same person. There couldn't possibly be people out there who actually take steps to improve themselves. That's absolutely flawless logic.

>>77218334
you never did exposure therapy and dont or ever had social anxiety, so stop spouting retarded memes or tell us all about the success your patients had with "exposure therapy"

complex b in tablets makes me more chill

>>77217268
I take 10mg of propranolol which is a very low dose.

>>77217275
How so? 10mg is tiny and according to my doctor is safe to take daily if I want to.

>>77217600
Just ask your doctor. It's not addictive or used to make drugs so it should be easy to get. I just asked and got it, no problem

>>77216716
start by not worshiping a mythical dead jew on a stick

>>77216716
Getting a job fixes anxiety. You get a lot of exposure to talking to random people on any given day. Its usually unemployed people who say they have anxiety

>>77216716
>I’m on a journey of self medicating for social anxiety
Social anxiety is a mind and heart issue, not a drug issue.
If you have an ego that says you need to prove yourself better than others, or gain power over others, then your ego causes you psychological anxiety.
If your heart is dead rather than loves and accepts other people, then this will also cause anxiety because you see everyone else as a threat and enemy.
Religious methods like reading the Bible, prayer and mass can do wonders to remove psychological anxiety, awaken your heart, and so on.

Chronic anxiety on the other (where you feel anxiety even when there are no psychological stressors) is a health problem, which can be caused by things like excess coffee, vitamin A toxicity, low sleep, and seed oils.

>>77216817
ah yes, fedoras really were known for being shining stars of social grace

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>>77217245
>I get the physical symptoms of "anxiety" which is essentially excessive adrenaline and cortisol at inappropriate times.
This type of anxiety is a health problem caused by nutrition problems and toxicity.
Coffee spikes the stress hormones you just mentioned, but omega 6 and vitamin A poisoning will also do it - among other things.
Omega 6 turns into the numba wun inflammation signal molecule in your body.

>>77216716
doing hallucinogenic psychedelics alone, without external stimulation, allows your brain to peform much-needed psychological repairs and reformulations.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B8NMDmoujfo

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>>77218183
Very insightful rant but i fail to see anything even relatable to my post at all, youre basically just venting frustrations like an effeminate retard.

>>77217430
Just fucking ignore them and do your thing

>>77217617
>>christianity is something that denies life and living, as in lived consequence.
>Christianity isn't gnosticism.
typical retarded christcuck.
all abrahamic religions, but christianity and islam the most (since they are deliberate poisonous creation of the jews for goyim) deny life by promising a better afterlife for the average and retarded NPCgroid mass. This mindset has turned billion into braindead docile NPCs awaiting their death because they think they will be rewarded with a better and permanent existence just for believing in rabbi jesus or rabbi mohamed or elohim or other jewish devils.
Compare that with pagan mindset in which the 95% mass goes to a slightly shittier existence that is the underworld for being mediocre, (to quote homer, it's better being a slave in the overworld than a ruler in the underworld) and only the creme de la creme who have left a mark on the world and exerted their will will be rewarded with a heaven. Hence why the ancients had a more heroic lifestyle
In other words the ticker to heaven in ancient pagan religions was through participating in life whereas in christianity it is merely believing in something that isn't phsyical, believing in jesus who doesn't exist and thus life denying.
Couple that with the fact that while christianity is explicitly anti family and anti race, pagan religions are pro race and family (and dynastic in nature) (for example the Romans believed they were religiously "ordained" or more accurately bound to to conquer the world because they were all physical descendants of Mars)

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>>77219012
>ah yes, fedoras really were known for being shining stars of social grace
"assuming that people who discourage christianity wear fedora while you barely get a point across after 200 words."
"open your heart, dont prove yourself"
whose the fedora tipping retard here? this has zero fucking anchors tied to what stimulates excessive stress impulses.

most social dynamics is both dominant and subservient based on how/what subject is carried.
if its advice, small talk, politics or actual discussions that works in the minds of intellectuals to actually feel like chiming in.
something anchored into systemic/mental frameworks or a longterm project as an example.

youre not even considering at what condition that OP is in or what his anxiety attacks is triggered from,
youre just venting your own frustration like a passive contrarian effeminate retard.

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>>77219394
Most Jomsvikings refused to kneel before their beheadings except one, who said:
> "I'm a bit worried about my hair" - Humbly requesting for his hair to be held up during his own beheading.
Who suddenly pulled his head back and the executioner strikes the hands off from one of their own people
The Jomsvikings all laughed at the day where they were fated to die.

The day has come up, the roosters clap their wings.
Time for the wretched serfs to do the heavy labour, Wake now wake company of friends, all you best ones of Aðil's people.
Har the hard-grip, Hrólfr Kraki the shooter. Men of good birth, they who do not flee.
I do not wake you to wine nor the whispers of women, I wake you to the hard sport of Hild.

Death sings Bjarkamál on the morning of our last stand

>>77218346
Sorry you're so upset. Hope things get better.

>77219511
Stfu concessioncel