Do you really need so much protein anon?
>>77228482same vibes
>>77228482No, but I will eat as much as I can so that there's less for others.
>Google "Nick Huber">A small business entrepeneurWhy am I taking nutritional advice from him anon?
>>77228538Have you seen the price of beef bro? Its financially irresponsible to hit your protein goals
>>77228482If you're actually lifting weights hard enough to build muscle, probably. If you're just exercising moderately or not at all, probably not
>>77228482He's right
>>77228493except this Huber guy is even less relevant than krugman. also reminds me of alan lichtmann melting down when his presidential keys were debunked. as a final added bonus, the lead pipes thing in ancient rome is only a disputed hypothesis
he's right that normies obsess over protein when they dont need to. i mean people that dont even gym. people who think a 20 minute walk is 'staying active'. suburban moms, hr ladies. black women.they're also getting protein from absolute slop. we're going to find out what they /actually/ are adding to all these '10g of protein!' products when someone finally does the lit review on sky rocketing rectal cancer in younger adults.
No, I cringe about all the "high protein" foods now. It's in fucking doritos now.
I figure I'm more likely to gain muscle if the blood in my veins is moving like a sludge because of all the protein being carried insideI could be wrong though
lead pipes were fine but the cups weren't >>77228596macroeconomics is generally bullshit that exists to justify what rich people already want to do
>>77228482>>77228603Lifters are overestimating their need for protein too.One of the reasons could be than protein rich foods are not that palatable and may be less calorific, so high protein would be a good way to stay on track diet wise.But the most important reason is the following one: you've been mindfucked by the protein powder industry.How do I know they lie? In the countries using imperial, fitness influencers will advise 1gr per pound minimum.In the countries using the metric system, they'll say 2gr per kilogram, max. Usually, it's 1.5-1.8.You're gonna say I'm splitting hair here, because 1 kilo is almost 2 pounds, and that they round it up for convenience.I don't think so. I think it's all marketing. I think they understand than europeans lifters, despite being as dense and naive as the average american one, won't eat that much of anything. The food market isn't even geared towards such high consumption of animal products and stuff.I'm rambling a bit but whatever.. I think it's a scam. I won't eat tuna cans.
Why the "Lead Pipe" Theory is Largely a MythFast Flow & Mineral Buildup: Water flowed quickly through the pipes, limiting the time lead could leech into the water. More importantly, hard water in many parts of the empire quickly coated the inside of the pipes with calcium carbonate (sinter), sealing the lead away from the water.Minimal Exposure: While Romans used lead (fistulae), they also used terracotta pipes. Evidence shows that the lead concentration in the water wasn't high enough to cause chronic poisoning across the entire population.The Theory Came Much Later: The idea that lead caused the fall was popularized in the 1960s and 1980s, rather than being a conclusion of ancient history.It Was Only the Elite: The average Roman didn't have running water in their homes (the domus), so they wouldn't have been exposed to the lead piping system in the same way.
>>77229066i agree on this as well.>you've been mindfucked by the protein powder industry.also years of advice coming from guys on a fuck ton of gear. i have no doubt some juiced up ifbb pro needs 400g of protein or something absurd, but nobody else does, especially not naturals and amateurs.granted im a natural and havent been lifting that long, but i get about 120gs and havent seen any plateaus in putting on size in my ~3 years gymming ~170lbs 5'11
>>77228482Most "protein calculator" websites will be tied to some kind of supplement company or outright shill itDo with this information what you willt. Probably never broke 100g in months and still managed a 5pl8 deadlift, but if i could eat more protein i would out of taste and love for meat, diminishing returns and stuff
>>77229168And btw im saying never broke 100g in months but that's when i absolutely pig out My average is closer to 70g or 60g mainly from eggs
>>77229099Assuming 10% BF that puts your FFMI at 21. You are barely above the average high school kid doing pushups and situps in his bedroom.
>>77228482>Do you really need so much protein anon?My doctor says yes, my belly says no. I can eat 2 pounds of meat daily, no problem, I'm a man, I can eat. But the night sweats afterwards can't be healthy, so I stopped.Normal BMI btw.>protein rich foods are not that palatableWhat. You're a woman, right? Only women hate protein. It's meat and eggs, man, what's not to like?
>>77229173twink build problems. i was 150 within memory
Protein is the only "untainted" macro in the eyes of normalfags. They think it’s a magic power that will give you muscle automatically and eating exorbitant amounts of it has no repercussions. Eat too much while not training and it’ll get stored as fat and you’re just putting unnecessary strain on kidneys
I mean if you're 70kg soaking wet you don't really need to eat 200g of protein.
>>77229206On the other hand you have retards like this who think your body treats protein and muscle tissue the same way as glycogen stores and adipose tissue because muh cico Nope retard you wont get fat from too much protein, your body will always prioritize fat and carbohydrates for energy. Muscle loss during cuts is mainly water "lean mass". Why would your body use one of the least efficient source of energy for us humans over readily metabolised ones ?The only correct thing you've mentioned is the strain on organshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_toxicity
150g just feels right
>>77229180What we like in eggs and meat is the fat.A pork chop is tastier than chicken breast, scrambled eggs with a bit of butter are tastier than eggs without yolks, etc.. Those options are more caloric (not calorific, my bad), hence my initial post
>>77228482Hunter gatherers have been eating 30% of their calories as protein for hundreds of thousands of years, that's already 150 g of protein on a 2000 kcal diet. The agricultural trend of low protein intake has only been around for roughly 10k, not even close to changing our evolutionary predispositions.>normal peopleThe average person isn't normal, their agriculture-based diet and lifestyle are an anomaly.
>>77228493The prediction on the left turned out to be correct though you retard.
>>77229206>unnecessary strain on kidneysNot a single recorded case of kidney failure as a result of protein intake in people without pre existing conditions. If you have kidney disease, by all means, watch your intake. If you don't, zero evidence of your kidneys being somehow strained by any intake.
>>77228493This is the guy whose $100 book they tell you to buy in college btw
You don't need more than 80-120g of protein as a natty.Stop taking fitness advice from mentally ill PED users.
behead those who post chatgpt
>me when i inject more then 200gr of protein.
>>77228541>eating beef for protein get on the swine train my guy you will never look back
>>77229349>30% of their calories as protein for hundreds of thousands of years, that's alreadyMore like 60%
>>77228591you can right deez nutz into yo mouf nigga
>>77229168>>77229169yeah you're prolly fat as fuck
>>77229475Inuit, perhaps. Doesn't seem to be the case for populations that had access to plant foods. Fruits are a rich source carb source. Thry may have had days or periods like winter where the % was higher, but it would average to 30ish daily.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10702160/
>>77229067Rome had pipes wtf? It was like 2k years ago
>>77228482>check science research>animals eat high protein, live longer, age better>humans eat high protein, live longer, age better>humans eating high-protein lose fat even in sufficit>humans eating high-protein live longer>humans eating high-protein have more muscle>humans eating high-protein look betteror just use common sense>we are made of X>we cannot make all parts of X ourselves>we have to eat to get the building blocks>eating enough building blocks means your body can renew and rebuild itself properlyshit i wonder if its good for youor should you believe some random twitter real estate salesman who asked chatgpt and it gave him one theory that he is now focusing on?and that theory can literally be combated with:>eat a few chicken wings instead of just breast>consume vitamin b stackshit man
>>77229521They had pipes longer than that. They had mines and worked metal, recall Rome was classical antiquity which is the age after the iron age. Also eat your protien from natural sources.
>>77228482Nah you can get away with less, 1g/lb of lean mass is just for super optimal gains.You can still make decent gains even at half that dose.When you weight yourself, subtract 25% for bone and blood weight before subtracting the body fat percentage. Let's say you're 200lb, minus 25% for bone and blood weight and another 15% for bf That leaves you with like120lb to 127lb lean mass. 0.7g per lean mass is the actual number recommend for protein but it is usually round up to 1g for simplicity's sake. 120g * 0.7 = 84g protein. So a 200lb guy with 15% bf really only needs about 80-90g protein and can still make like 90% of their gains.
>>77228493Yet he still teaches at Harvard
>>77228493Except GPT and the LLM craze will not transform the economy. It's just a chat bot. It doesn't do anything other than that. They don't even make any profits. They take billions and turn it into millions. They only existed because they are either propped up by other companies via circular financing or propped up by profits from something that actually makes money.
>>77229354Yup. Amazon? Just a newer version of the old mail-order catalogues/magazines. Jewtube? Just the nu TV. For the most part everyone else just lives the same way as people from the decade prior. They just have a different form of entertainment and a different mode of patronizing the same business model.
>>77229628Lmfao.
>>77228482isn't protein good even if you just want to stay lean? Otherwise you're eating a lot of carbs and fat.
>>77229628Yeah, they shilled AI so hard while it still had some insane hallucinations, and as soon as it became reliably coherent everyone jumped to replace human employeesIdk what they're trying to accomplish, but they're doing something alright
>>77229489And you wont post body how curious is that
>>77228482>2 scoops Greek yogurt>2 scoops peanut butter>3 scoops protein powder>2 Bananas>1 heaping tablespoon of magnesium powderBlended it up and drank it. I can't stop shitting this morning, oh my God, it's so bad bros
Ah yes, the lead pipes that took down Rome
>>77230043Funny that we did all of these in the span of 40 years.
>>77230043>Material wealth is astounding, citizen (i.e.: non slaves) do not need to workI suppose there's a little irony to be found in there
>>77230063Jews have observed many civilizations rise and fall, they know the formula for making it happen...
>>77228482you need 150g topsI used to be the one slamming 180g daily and it was too much and uselessI saw the same gains and felt way better on 150g mentally, physically, and financially30% of daily caloric intake is all you need
>>77230043The middle ages weren't the bronze age, people weren't living in caves and the middle ages weren't technologically regressed from Rome. Put down the crack pipe.
>>77230417how do you even reach 150g without whey protein?
>>77229521kek
Immigration took down the roman empire.
I build more muscle when I eat more protein. I think my own experience trumps what a bunch of nonwhites on a purple Israeli-Indian forum say
>>77228482>Do you really need so much protein anon?i am for 20-30 g per meal, snacking as needed. i only weigh 140 lbs though
>>77229470What the fuck, anon?
>>77230476Different anon.I am not lifting, just cardio (150lbs), i only use around half the amount:500g low fat curd cheese with honey and oatmeal250g mozzarella with some cucumber and tomato200g tofu with some Onion and sweet Pepper3 slices of protein bread (different brands may contain whey)total is around 150 to 180g
>>77228538Not only that he's actually a scammer, one of those twitter "business" grifters
>>77229613is Harvard even prestigious anymore?
>>77230691>200g tofu with some Onion and sweet Pepper>3 slices of protein bread (different brands may contain whey)Yeah dude you're not even close to 100I always knew retards here actually count the whole foods portion weight not the actual protein to claim they eat 200g
>>77228482Nah, protein is definitely overhyped. I feel like originally it's importance was massively exaggerated by supplement companies who wanted to sell their stupid powders, and that was always passed down as bro wisdom like an old wives taleJust get 100g a day and you're fine, you don't need more than that. And as long as you're not eating total garbage you'll easily hit 100g without even trying or going out of your way>t. 3pl8 bench and 4pl8 squat natty, whenever I tracked I found my diet is mainly carbs
>>77230698I am not an english native, might have misunderstood something.The weight is just the main protein source/ingredient.For all meals combined i listed the total protein weight at the end.
>>77230719Vegetarian "protein" doenst count zhang-li
>>77229628anon the landscape has changed a little since 2023, you might want to see the agentic coding capabilities they have now. Any programmer worth their salt who can accurately oversee this thing has 10x their productivity.
>>77230741Yet curiously it has not produced anything worth noting aside from disaster after disaster
>>77229603True, you don't need much protein to build muscle but you definitely need a lot to maintain muscle while on a cut.
>>77230043Thats revisionist nonsense and you should be embarrassed to have posted it.
>>772304761% milk is 128g protein and 1700 calories per gallon, it's cheaper than whey and is S-tier food if you can handle it.Just drink milk with every meal, it's basically protein 1g/oz and the calories are not terrible. Though whole milk will make you fat.. Also don't get skim milk, you need a lil fat to absorb the vitamins and shit.
>>77230697No, all higher education has been turned into a clown show by feminist and dei woke nonsense culture. You don't go to Harvard to learn the truth, you go there to bump elbows with bourgeoisie neppo bubble babies who don't have the foggiest clue as to how the real world works. That's not education, that's indoctrination.
>>77230476>BreakfastWholewheat cereal with half litre full fat milk = 450 cal 25g protein>lunch4 large eggs cooked in butter with two slices wholewheat toast with nothing on it = 550 cal 45g protein>dinner300g oven baked chicken breast with steamed veggies= 400 cal 80g proteinBoom, 150g of protein @ 1500 calories. My maintenance is 2500 calories so I have room for another evening meal and a couple snacks of my choice.
>>77230700>3pl8 benchso you are 275 pounds
>>77228482seems he's saying eating 150-200g of protein is easy and cheap cutting while getting daily protein and eating foods that you can enjoy is almost impossible
