>>77229789
Pharma shilling bro, str8 uhp everything in modern medicine is completely corrupt and outright bad for your health to keep you locked in the system, and so they demonize anything that might actually help you.

The shills will arrive soon, impossible to parse the useful idiots from actual paid shills but just ignore all of them because they are all retarded. The only problem with chiropractors and osteopaths is that just about anyone can get """qualified""" so you get a lot of kooks who give it a bad reputation.

>>77229810
Osteopaths require regular med school. Chiros also lot of school.

>>77229789
I think chiropractics overstates its effect, but there is something very real about proper bloodflow to your nervous system contributing to overall health. This is obviously anecdotal, but ever since I got on a regimen of twice monthly massage and twice monthly adjustments, I have not been sick in almost 4 years. I suspect this is because my bloodflow is good enough that my lymphatic system is able to flush out viral and bacterial accumulations before they can overwhelm any part of my immune system.

My quality of life has also improved since whenever I have a joint that's out of place, my chiropractor is able to adjust it back and allow me to start training/working without pain. Do I believe that chiropractic can help with nightmares and shit like that? No I think that's silly.

>>77229789
Chiropractors arent really known for applying different movements on people with different issues. They all generally do the same thing no matter what the issue is, there really isn't any point in understand someone's issue other than deciding if its too risky and may end up hurting the person more.
Im not really sure about the chinese thing but i assume you are talking about the tea extract stuff. In which case at least they have a variety of different chemical compounds in the form of ground up things that came from something in nature that people can take, similar to medicine except not made in a lab.
Just look up any chiropractor video, they all do the same thing to every single person. I would recommend a massage therapist over chiropractors

>>77229857
>Chiropractors arent really known for applying different movements on people with different issues. They all generally do the same thing no matter what the issue is, there really isn't any point in understand someone's issue other than deciding if its too risky and may end up hurting the person more
Generally true. However I think that's mostly because people tend to all have similar misalignments with their spine, because so many people today work in offices and don't exercise weaknesses. When I first started going to a good chiropractor (after doing tons of research), my xrays found a slight curvature in my spine. So for the first few months, my chiropractor used this very weird "twisting" motion while adjusting me that I hadn't seen before to counter the curvature. Eventually my spine settled straight and then we didn't need to do that anymore.

It also probably helped that I was going to the gym while getting adjusted, so my muscles etc were growing while my spine was temporarily in a correct position. I think action on part of the patient is not talked about enough.

>>77229857
>something in nature that people can take, similar to medicine except not made in a lab
Just because it comes from nature doesn’t mean it will heal you. Chiropractors actually work with your bones. Drinking whale cum isn’t going to cure any disease. You are just following for an oriental exotic trope.

>>77229789
>Western alternative medicine makes more sense to me than Chinese Traditional Medicine
The reasoning behind both is wrong, but Chinese traditional medicine produces positive results much more often than western alternative medicines. Herbs are still bioactive, and accounts are still taken from observation despite the rest of the wooery and wackery. The majority of western alternative medicine ranges from Energy/Aura/Empath wacko woowoo nonsense to actively incorrect and outdated medical methods to do things we've improved on.
>but why are osteopaths and chiropractors so demonized in the west? Meanwhile in China they work alongside actual MD's in most hospitals, and you can get random shit like ground up deer antler at a normal pharmacy there.
because oesteopaths and chiropractors are in the "outdated" and "incorrect" methods respectively. The amount of harm actually produced because of these is reasonably low in most cases, and they still produce positive results. The effort and cost to update the infrastructure to stop producing those professions was higher than the reward of mild improvement to procedure. Most western countries view this cost as worthwhile, and so they culturally adopt the idea that the modern way is better.

>>77229789
imagine if they were stripped down to their undies and wrestled in the gym locker room after a sweaty session haha

>>77229789
chiro and osteo are technically allied health with physios these days, but there are many schools of chiro and different qualifications in different states- chiros in canada can deliver babies for example.
Vitalistic chiros were full of shit, but its also worth noting that the big pharma lawsuits against them did fail in court.

in any health field there will be people who help you and people who just want your money

the average chiropractor is just cracking your back in retarded dangerous ways.
the average chiropractor is just some retard with no real training or knowledge what you are doing.

all they are doing is cracking shit which releases gases, it feels good but its temporary,
then they just string you along to do a bunch of retarded shit that can fuck you up.

imagine getting your neck cracked by some hippy retarded, but he tears the veins in your spine and you die of bleeding in your brain, just to have a retard pop bones.


the problem is there is not proper research and training, its just fucking retards who dont know what they are doing.

Physiotherapy is the reasonable middle ground between medicating your problems away and cracking your problems away