is this achievable natty
>>77235660depends, are you a life sized human or miniature version?
yea if you're a manlet
Not if you're over 5'5
>>77235660yes but its not sustainable without making it your full time job
>>77236536The stress of trying to maintain that body could drive someone to murder....
>>77235660is this the best natties can achieve if they make gym their whole life? why is natty lifting so fucking depressing?
>>77236622it's a sign of God, telling you there are a thousand more interesting things to do with your life
Yeah when you are 5'5
>>77235660Why does he wear that stupid buzzcut now?
>>77236622There's a reason rich people do endurance sports. You can progress with endurance a lot easier than you can with bodybuilding naturally. Easier to get a sub 6 minute mile than it is to get a 315 bench as a natty. That's why Clav is right about drug usage for most men. It's not worth it for most guys to make their whole lives revolve around fitness when they can just take PEDs, casually lift doing some remedial bro split, and mog the natty that optimizes everything.
>>77236622This is what frenchoids in the 60s looked like by virtue of literally just existing. If you think you need more than that, you're mentally ill.
>>77235660I have met jeff before and I will say he looks a lot bigger on camera than he does in person. Obviously the dudes jacked but he's no more jacked than any other gym bro who's been serious about it for 5+ years, hench dude but nothing crazy. 17" arms tend to look a lot bigger than they are when you're 5'5 too lol. I think he's telling the truth that he's natty. no signs of steroid use over the years either, it's easy to spot especially in the long term, you notice when they go off cycle
>>77236708I don't see a single arm bigger than 12 inches there
>>77236736>I don't see a single arm bigger than 12 inches therethe fatcep fears the leanpill
>>77235660If you're 5 feet tall sure
>>77236708>all dyels>not even a single ottermodeTGINF (thank God I'm not Fr*nch)
