First, these bodies cannot be achieved without a high volume, the muscle fullness etc. doesn't llook like modern high intensity workouts.Second, we know from medical texts by Galen that one should watch for the muscles getting full and swelling, and stop exercising when this effect ceases, ie. he described the "pump".Third, all ancient texts mentioning the matter seem to imply Greeks basically stayed in the gym all day, even starting to train before sunrise. You can't train all day when you do high intensity training, but this seems to recall the 80s bodybulding cliche of bodybuilder "living in the gym" and training for hours upon hours, even eschewing cardio because they were moving for 3 or 4 hours every day anyway.tl;dr: I think the Greeks did sports specific training with high volume, not high intensity, because the sources we have seem to imply this,What do you think?
>>77236025Is 5 plate squat for 3x10 high intensity?
>>77236025What if we replicated this by doing 20 push ups every hour? Would that build a physique?
>>77236036>Is 3x10 high intensity?No>>77236037The thing is that while we roughly know which exercises they did (Hint: No push ups that we know of), we don't know how they were combined.We do know that depending on which sport they trained, they used different exercises though.
>>77236025I think the sculptor probably embellished a fuckton.
>>77236051Why would you think so? Those statues look athletic but not extraordinary irl. You can see them at the British Museum or the Louvre for example. They're not nearly as awe-inspiring as you imagine.
>>77236040>webuddy those texts are fake
>>77236025>modern high intensity workouts.Do you think most bodybuilders train HIT. If so you're an absolute retard
>>77236025>These unimpressive physiques trained high volume Probably yeah
>>77236059Because when has the point of art ever been to genuinely capture reality?
>>77237438Real. It'd be like thinking ww1 humiliated, supply shortage interwar krauts looked like Arno Breker statues.
>>77237833>>77236051how low are our standards? anyone moderately strong would look like those statues (excluding the farnese hercules) if they cut down to around 10% bf.
>>77237383lol gb2/pol/ thirdie
>>77237385Most bodybuilders nowadays do powerbuilding.
>>77237438Depends on the era, but most of the time.>>77237833Trained athletes did, look at the Olympia movie by Leni Riefenstahl for example.
>>77237909Says who ???What do you even mean by that. Derek and nick walker train like daisys dude, just to give you a perspectivehttps://youtu.be/7JqtkV0qYtghttps://youtu.be/HYngFKG5YbY
>>77237926>Says who ???They do.>What do you even mean by that.More focus on high weight low reps with compound exercises.When in the golden era it was high volume low weight with isolation exercises.
>>77236025They stayed in the gym all day because it was a social thing they did, with hot baths and swimming as wellAnd their training would have been a lot of competition, like "Ajax I bet you can't lift this stone!" and that would have inevitably pushed athletes to failure a lot of the timeThey would also have been doing lots of sports, like wrestling their bros, so it would have been high volume in that sense, but not in the way that you mean
>>77236025This board obsession with idealising the past is what is preventing it from actually progressing in life now. Using fake nostalgia as an excuse is beyond cringe.
>>77236059>>77237430Post body if its so unimpressive
>>77236025>because the sources we have seem to imply thiscould you post some of these sourcesI usually see this caveman argument of >Statue is ripped = real life Greeks were ripped
>>77236025Statues were the ancient version of photoshop
>>77236059>Why would you think so?Because it's well known that ancient Greek art was not naturalistic but idealistic. We have to have this discussion every time some retard brings up Greek statues.
>>77236025gym means nude. they were just nude all day
>>77236025>First, these bodies cannot be achieved without a high volume, the muscle fullness etc. doesn't llook like modern high intensity workouts.You're a retard full of magical thinkingMuscles grow. That's it. You can grow them, probably better, without 'high volume'. >>77237926Every successful bodybuilder is also hugely strong>>77238158I don't think it's having any effect on anything
>>77236025people from ancient times lied a lot anon
>>77237907Weren't the original bodybuilders like Sandow or whatever using the statues as models to base their physiques off?
>>77236025I frame-mog that statue a bit, aside from having both arms and a nose, and don't train high-volume. Not saying you can't do it with high volume, but I am saying you don't HAVE to do high volume.
>Ass mogs you
They would certainly have raced eachother. That would have been intense. They probably wrestled a lot too. Iirc Khabib and his team would train 8 hours per day and you could argue his physique was similar to that of the statue.
>>77236025are you the same retard who was sperging the other week about how having lats is bad for physique?
>>77236051>>77237438>>77237833>>77238293>>77238494>>77238756>the statues are fake nobody looked like these 100% naturally attainable bodies the sculptors just miraculously always correctly guessed what a built and cut physique looks like
>>77238006>More focus on high weight low reps with compound exercises.>When in the golden era it was high volume low weight with isolation exercises.You couldnt be more wrong if you actively tried to just kill yourself and stop being involved in fitness discussions
>>77236025>First, these bodies cannot be achieved without a high volume, the muscle fullness etc. doesn't llook like modern high intensity workouts.that's not how biology works you retarded nigger
>>77236025I'm not working out all day, sorry.
>>77236025No, The Greeks trained fyve bye fyve and were morbidly obese.
>>77237438Depends on the artist and the aspect of reality being portrayed.
>>77237912Gonna watch this tonight for free on jewtube. Danke, anon.
>>77239188traps don't do that ab-like division, upper divides into striations, lower they are much more fine strands
