>Who is /fat/ for?For Beach Bloatlords who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious: >>77236318
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>>77239005Choose your diet strategy wisely.
Eated doner kebab today, gonna eat mcdonalds tomorrow.Mcmuffins are the best, and motivate me to wake up early.
who ever said "high protein low carb" is a fucking retardi just feel like im starving when eating only protein.i feel more hungry than if i just ate RICE
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Fatty ContestAngloSperg256
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>>77239113im never listening to Ketotard again i feel like shit when eating ketoFucking lying faggot
>>77239063Sounds good fat fuckKeep us posted
>Haven't worked out in months>But your muscles rememberWE ARE SO BACK
Having a light snack of ~500 calories. Bought the 8% m.f. yogurt because higher fat dairy is slimming.
48 more workouts to go till my goal
>>77239184iktf2 workouts in my muscles are already filled
Today I ate 18 eggs.
How important is protein intake if I'm not very muscular to start with?Currently 5'9" and 188 lbs. My goal is 150 lbs, no particular deadline. I know the protein target is supposed to help you maintain muscle mass, but I don't weight train, so I don't really think there's that much muscle to lose except maybe in my lower body. I'm thinking of throwing in some fasts or very low calorie days to speed up weight loss.
I think I need to take a week of maintenance. Having been in a deficit of at least 1000 calories for 180 straight days is making me kind of crazy lately when food crosses my mind.
I finally ran out of prepped meals. So happy I get to cook something else tomorrow.
>>77239538How little protein are you talking about and do you at least walk or otherwise stay active? you don't need to weight train, but don't underestimate how much muscle the body can lose if your sedentaryHigher protein is good for satiety on a deficit if nothing else
I'm crossing down under the 20% body fat line soon, and I've heard you need to raise protein and lower the deficits once past there. But I'm not sure by how much.
>>77239590In the case of a fast, none, but that'd be for one maybe two days at a time. I was thinking probably keep it at least around 80g if I'm eating something that day. I've been walking ~4 miles most days with a longer hike one weekend day. I did about 15 miles today.
>>77239005>be me>exercise for a good hour>hungry as fuck afterYeeeah this is gonna be a problem.
>>77239602so have one of your daily meals after the workout
today, i WILL fast!
please do not answer to the ketoschyzo
Threadly reminder, that:WAGMI
Fatty ContestTakatin71.9KgNo loss but I'm looking less wobly
>>77239564You gotta do what you gotta do. Better to take the break now than reach a point where you're having more severe problems.
Fatty ContestSylveonXGlaceon305.8 lbsday 2/31 complete.just made salt water so that hopefully I'm not dying (semi literally) during the later days of the fast. it still doesn't taste that weird despite its taste being such a common complaint i saw herestill haven't eaten all of may.unless i feel an oncoming medical emergency i don't think i will. had a headache all of yesterday but that's because i slept weird that always gives me a headache even when I'm eating like a pig, though maybe the fasting made it worse, and made it so even that nap i took midday didn't really help the intensity of the headache go down at all. feeling noticably weaker than i usually do. feeling a vague sense of numbness all over. but the hunger was actually worse on day 1 than it was on day 2.
>>77239993are you taking your vitamins
>>77240001I'll start taking vitamins on day 5. for not it's just salt water. I don't really know what to take so it's just a generic multivitamin. i also have magnesium pills but i put epsom salts in the water so i don't actually take these pills.
Is it normal for a plateau to last 2 months?I've been 135-136kg for a while now
>>77240049NoWith that Weight the Kilos should be going down easily
>>77240049It's normal on CICO. Eventually you will regain weight, guaranteed. CICO always fails.
>>77240049no, how many kcal are you eating
>>77240090TDEE is 2500, I'm sure I'm eating less than that
Why is ketoschizo even trying anymore when the keto diet has been proven to causally drive artherosclerosis and everyone who wants to lose weight is already on reta anyway?
>>77240097Clearly you aren't
>>77240103>the keto diet has been proven to causally drive artherosclerosis[citation needed]>and everyone who wants to lose weight is already on retathis is a false statement.
>>77240113>[citation needed]The LMHR study had you retards show high plaque growth comparable to diabetics as the primary outcome. The ketard study authors tried hide that result and lost all credibility among the scientific community for it. Even the reddit ketards now avoid (((Norwith))).>this is a false statement.No, it's a true statement. Decades of keto propaganda and people only got fatter. Two years of GLP1 and the US obesity rate declined by 2% for the first time in history.
it's samefagging again ignore it
>>77240097well, either you are winging it and getting more than you should or the labels are lying to you
>>77240120i see no citation and i see you doubling down on a false statement
Been dieting for about a month now, on a decent deficit. Averaging around 1600-1800 cals a day, fasting from 17pm - 10 am. I'm 6.3 218 lbs lifting 3 times per week. Any insight on why my weight stayed the same the last 8 days?
>>77240154Calorie restriction causes metabolism to slow down. Eventually you regain weight.Unlimited calorie keto increases metabolism, gets you to your goal weight, and makes it easy to maintain long term.
>actually if you eat unlimited calories you cause an integer overflow in your intestines and you lose weightWoah, this is the genius of ketoGODS...
>>77240172Body composition is determined by hormones. Eating large amounts of slimming foods gives your body a lean hormonal profile.Eating small amounts of fattening foods gives your body a fat hormonal profile, resulting in loss of muscle, increased hunger, lowered metabolism, and eventual weight regain.
>>77240206Post body
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>>77240210Post body with timestamp
>>77240213It does have a timestamp. See also: >>77239042And pic related, too.
>>77240216wutTimestamp means the time NOW lil newfag... and you put the persons post numberI mean, you aren't a newfag right? You CAN triforce right?
Alright, next time I wake up I'm starting my sugar purge. I already had sugar today (fruit and sweet beans) so tomorrow I'm going to have as little simple sugar as possible, and while I will consume carb I will NOT have any bread. I can have baked potatoes, sweet potatoes, lotus root, pretty much any vegetables, a smaller portion of rice, and I think maybe once biweekly pasta. My guts need to reset so bad, my bacteria are so overfed and I think I have a huge yeast colony in my guts making me crave more sugar. My tongue has been white the last week, I got a rash under my boy tiddies that's consistent with a yeast infection (thank GOD I know brown Listerine kills everything and its already gone), clearly I'm overrun with the consequences of my love for sugar... I'm wondering how much weight I'll drop when I stop eating sugar. I've been making so much room in my diet for sugar Like a junkorexic.
HANK YOU'RE IN A SELF DESTRUCTIVE BINGE RESTRICT CYCLE BASED OFF SELF-LOATHING AND HATREDHAAAAAAAAAAANK
>>77240227I CANT STOP IT DALE I CANT BREAK IT ALL I KNOW IS ALL OR NOTHING BUH GAHD
>>77240227
>>77240097>I'm sureNo, you aren't. If you were sure, you wouldn't say I'm sure. Count your calories, stop eyeballing stuff, and putting in no effort.
>>77240251Now this is reddit
>>77240049No, no its not. You're eating at maintenance.>>77240097HOW sure? Clearly you're eating at maintenance. Redo your TDEE, set it to sedentary. Eat 500 less.
Fatty ContestCap214.4lbAte a little too much this week so not much of a loss.
>>77240259Weird.
25 pounds to go until my goalNew phone doesn't let me flip pics so weird
>>77239422Nice eating disorder you got there bro
>cut is halfway done (with my holidays being the deadline)>there's undeniable progress on the scale, belt has to tightened by one more hole and so on>grim realization hits I probably won't be ripped at the end and I probably carry more fat than I thought and I'd have to be victim weight to look actually lean>then even worse realization comes that maybe the only thing distinguishing me from some ottermode skelly is having more fat, despite having been into lifting and such since my early teensfuck being a genelet lanklet desu
>>77240309>lankletYou're tall so you already won. Stop complaining.
>>77240097Stop half-assing it and aim for 1500 cals
>>77240313That's just a bit of thumb
>>77239602Resistance training? Do harder and heavier. Your heart rate is too low, inducing hunger. Adrenaline from a good workout lowers hunger.
>Eat less >Can see my stomach getting smaller It really is that simple folks
>>77239065Potatoes brother trust me. They'll make you feel full and don't have a lot of calories.
diet soda doesn't break a fast, right?
>>77240154I'm about the same size, but eat more and am more active.How long, intense and straining are the workouts? Do you see progression?Do you do cardio?What are your meals and macros?
>>77240355Checked.Fucking wizard gypsy magick
>>77240377Three one hour workouts a week, started seriously going to the gym first week of January and I've been steadily progressing every lift I do, except bench for some reason.I do 200g greek yoghurt and 15-20g of granola/walnuts for breakfast, 4 egg omelette with 20g of cured sausage and a home made bread roll (I'm Norwegian and there aren't good translations for those two items) and 75g rice, 200g chicken tighs and 150g broccoli is one of my dinners, the other I rotate with is 200g minced meat, 200g chili beans and 50g rice. Today for example my macros are 96g fat, 84g carbs and 106g protein
>>77240416I'm Nordic too, I know what you mean. I'd up my TDEE with heart rate 2 zone cardio, and up my carbs & protons a bit, lower the fat a little. Easiest to leave the nuts and add skyr or quark.Sounds like you're getting enough of rest. Are you doing 3x10 or 5x5?
>>77240225>I think I have a huge yeast colony in my guts making me crave more sugarqrd?i've been craving sugray foods for months now and i stopped stalling and now i'm gaining weight despite eating in deficit.
>>77240477Cardio is something I should do more of, my off-days are usually pretty relaxed so most of my weekly activity is put into those gym sessions.I do 3x10-12
Overnight oats with chia seeds has changed my mornings.Can't believe I slept on this.
>>77240507I don't get the appeal personally. Tastes like slop.
>>77240507in detail, anon. we don't know wtf you're talking about.
>>77240527Teaspoon of chia seeds1/2 cup of milk1/2 cup of rolled oatsScoop of protein powderTeaspoon of local honey (must be local, local honey gives you the pollen of your area and helps inoculate you, bye bye allergies)Pinch of saltKeeps me full all the way till lunch and the chia seeds every day keeps me regular.
>>77240484See pic related.If you quit carbs entirely for a while it will fix your problem.
>losing weight>waistline still the sameI just never win.
>>77240561Paper towel, anon.
>>77240566huh?
>>77240569Your body is like a paper towel.The first few sheets you take away aren't noticeable.Keep removing sheets and what happens?
>>77240574I got u, thanks anon. I'm gonna keep at it, I'm just worried I'm losing a lot of lean mass.
>>77240574>Keep removing sheets and what happens?Your carton bones appear
>>77240541and what's that about gut yeasts and sugar craving?
what if sugar is good for you, and you should stop eating fat and all that protein instead?
>>77240541post defense score
>>77239590>don't underestimate how much muscle the body can lose if your sedentarytruthnukei'd always think "the number on the scale isn't changing so at least i'm not getting fatter" but get a harsh dose of reality every year when the seasons change and last year's winter clothes don't fit despite that
I'm getting thinner slowly, will I end up losing my awesome leg gains that I never worked out for? I don't want to lose my fat ass and gut just to end up with twig legs if I can help it.
>>77240600If you want to get lean, low-fat fails. Low-carb works.
>no nuns or ducksshan't be posting
>>77240637do leg workouts and you won't lose them
>no nuns or ducksshall be posting
>>77240637If you want to look good at your goal weight, lift weights. Every fatty thinks they secretly have 20 or 30% more muscle than the average guy just because they are fat, and they never do.
>>77240520The irony of this post is great
>>77240097>TDEE is 2500, I'm sure I'm eating less than thatIf you are plateaued for a very long time, that means your TDEE is not that anymore. Or you're mistaken about your intake. I would suggest a maintenance break where you eat at TDEE for several weeks. But this is also why being in Keto for 6 days a week, and then having a carb refeed on one day per week, is a good idea. It spikes leptin . Which not only controls your appetite for the rest of the week until the next week but it keeps your body completely out of starvation mode or metabolic slowdown which is potentially what you are experiencing if you are in a deficit for a long period of time . Like 16 weeks or something. Take a maintenance break.
>>77240651The irony of your brain is great
>>77240507>Overnight oats>Can't believe I slept on this.Isn't that the point or are you some nocturnal weirdo?
Fatty Contesttimetolockin239.29
>>77240669LOCK THE FUCK IN ALREADY
I just noticed that any question i pose to this general, i could just ask an AI and it would give a better more detailed answer. The only benefit of posting a question here is you get some retard brown skinned moron being snarky at you.
>>77240684AI will just give you big sugar propaganda.
>>77240684The uppity is general discussion and maybe the answers make others reflect as well. Altho this will propably stop soon, the psoas bot and ketoschizo just replying to themselves.
my muscles still ache after 2 days I did zero work with them yesterday
>>77240721it do be like this if it's been a long time since you last lifted
>>77240738I’ve been at it for 7-8 weeks now. I’ve had this same problem of general constant fatigue in the past. no idea what causes it.
>weighing lowest I've been in 7 years>at the same time feeling much fatter than beforeIt is how it is.
>weight hasn't moved in a week plus >been sticking to everything strictly anyways>still feel better and look better than before>even better than days before even though the scale reads the sameIs this all in my head? Or is this just the results of taking some stress off my body and eating better?
>>77240781Post body
>>77240771>7-8 weeks nowcuteit will take some more months before you don't get DOMS anymore and some more later to start dreaming of getting them back
>>77240786I'm still a fatty, it doesn't matter.
FattyContestClavDisciple128.8kgI think normally what kicks off good periods for me is barely eating for a few days, and then the thoughts of food wear off a little bit. I just have to be able to fight them when they come back and I am 100kg or something.
>>77240799Have you tried just eating less
>>77240783over the course of only about a week probably just in your head honestly but take your wins where you can get them. especially if it keeps you motivated through a stall
>>77240783good nutrition will make you more energetic and less sick-feeling regardless of weight. only eating less will make you lose weight.
>>77239993>31 day fastJesus dude, whatever you've been up to the last year, do the opposite. Maybe fasting will work out if that's a new tactic, GL
>>77240783its probably the latter. last week I ate goyslop for the first time in months and immediately felt like garbage for the rest of the week. went back to strictly whole foods and it was all good after that.
>training to failure promotes muscle growth>go to gym>do bench press to failure>get trapped under bar until someone at dumbells notices and helps me lift <1pl8lmao off my chestthis shit is retarded
>>77240851You don't go to failure if you're an incel with no friends
>>77240788The rare time I get doms now is such a treat. It requires adding a different exercise or missing a day in the gym.>>77240851If that isn't a shitpost, you could have been much dumber. Letting the bar rest on your chest is what you're supposed to do when you fail, but most people in a panic put the bar over their neck or face before locking out their elbows. That's how retards die on the bench. Just push the weight down to your hips so you can sit up, or bench without plate clips and dump the weight to the side.You're supposed to go to failure as in the last rep you did is the last one you could do, not keep going until your body fails.
>>77240851and thats why gyms are meme just exercise at home
>>77240851should have gone with dumbbells
>>77240862I have friends but none of them want to go to gym w/ me. >>77240865It was a half-shitpost, half baiting for advice. Thanks for the input. >>77240867home exercises for legs and forearms suck.>>77240875probably gonna do this next time.
>>77240356might try thisafter eating "muh high protein" i just felt like i was starving all day, ended up having spaghetti dinner>then i had no issues intermittent fasting for 20 hours im going to be sticking with carbs for sure
>>77240206>how to feel like you're starving all day 101
>>77239005that's a fat catI hope he doesn't have a heart attack when he loses weight :(
>>77240906Yeah hunger is why CICO never works.Unlimited calorie keto is easy mode. No hunger ever. Easy.
Sometimes you just gotta keep it simple
>>77239847>tfw forgot that i can't sleep as easily while fastingfuck fuck fuck
>>77240917tried keto, didn't work, just made me fatter and more hungry.
>>77240799>ClavDisciplekys
>>77240949I mog you
>THE KETO
Walked 9 miles, 2 hours and 45 mins. At a 1.5k calorie deficit before dinner. I really fucked up so far and haven't had anything but carbs so far. I think I just eat nothing besides meat and a protein shake for dinner and I can end at a good protein goal and still be in a deficit.
>>77241031crack open the canned tuna nigga
>just ate a massive fucking bowl of konjac noodles with chicken & vegWhy the fuck didn't I know about these noodles until now? 400g is like 30 calories
eating whole foods really opened my eyes to how much goyslop America is surrounded by, you can't get anything without shit tier oils and preservatives and literal petroleum based food additives from anywhere besides the grocery store. Even the grocery store half the shelves are garbage non-food.
>>77241048because you're not browsing /fat/ religiously enoughcareful. they might give you constipation in big amounts.
>>77240812it's almost 2 now, but ye will do>>77240813yeah keeping things clean and cals low>>77240821oofi have no desire to eat junk, but i can imagine how crummy you'd feel giving in after eating properly so longgood luck bro keep it up
>>77241056>constipation Yeah I was thinking about that, I don't often crave noodles but this is definitely a good stand in.
>>77241048look up heart of palm noodlesi tried some recently fairly cheap too, pretty kino.
>>77241073Interesting, what's the texture like? I'm assuming its the same deal as konjac noodles where bits just water and fiber so eating too much could cause GI issues.
>>77241075its like veggie noodles, a bit chrunchy/chewy like biting into a pepper/onion but really thin?dont really know how to explain itsays on the package you can boil them to make them softer.i like it.
>>77241075forgot to mention i didn't have any stomach issues after eating 2 packs, made it into spaghetti.doesn't seem to wreak your stomach like konjac
>>77241081Sounds worth a try, the problem i find with konjac noodles is that it has a different texture and doesn't "hold" sauce like wheat noodles, but maybe I made them wrong idk
>>77241086the hearts of palm holds sauce really well.was surprising, and its like 60cals per pack.goes for like $3.75~ much cheaper than other noodles i was looking into
>>77241092will give it a try, thanks anon
Hey frogs of /fat/,A friendly reminder from this unc homo to take care of your face! Exfoliate and moisture with quality products daily. It makes a huge difference in the long run. Goes very well with that lean body, and adds a nice routine besides diet and training.
>>77241119And by exfoliate you mean wash. Exfoliation should only be once a week or so. Over exfoliation can lead to damaging the skin barrier and irritation etc.Def cleanse, moisturise/SPF 100% though daily.
Fatty Contest Fatwicker 222.2 lbs Funny number today
>>77241127No, exfoliating. Not the deep cleansing exfoliating one, but daily exfoliating wash one. Preferably something without too much soap, some face massage is a big plus. I only use products with charcoal.
>>77241049Our grocery stores are basically 75% goysnacks while groceries in Asia are 85% real food
>>77241048Dude Konjac fuckin rules. My hot tips are to wash it real good, even when you think it's washed, wash it again. It doesn't need to be cooked, but cooking it does change the texture and I'm guessing it helps with whatever digestion occurs. I like to fry mine at mid temp in a bit of onions sauce and let the water from the rinse / noodles themselves do the rest. After that, I like to serve it in some gochujang, onions sauce, and garlic.Listen to the Anons warning you about constipation, maybe eat it every 3rd day.
>>77241302Thanks anon, I haven't noticed any digestion issues since I ate it earlier today but you're probably right in eating it on occasion. I was worried it wouldn't pan fry well since its mostly water but I'll have to try it next time.
>>77241325I have yet to get badly constipated but every single person eventually seems to have the problem eventually.Yeah they just sorta crisp up and contract. They don't get crispy, just firmer and less , I dunno, like a soggy noodle. Probs just gets the water out.
>>77241031>>77241034>canned tunaThis shit really is a life saver. I go with the pouches tho.
I've started taking Miralax daily like an old man and now my progress is moving how I expected.
>take a shit>weigh a kilogram less UH
Fatty ContestBeefyWeiner185.4 lbs
>>77240287Did you manage to get your asscrack and your cock in this picture??? SlyThat's skill Bravo
When things clicked for me is when I realized how easy it is to only eat ~500 calories in the first 10 hours you're awake (assuming you don't sleep in) and from there it's difficult to overeat in the time before bed
If you are doing this natty I got a lot of respect for you. I am enhanced now and still get frustrated by slow results to the point it feels like going thru mud
Ate light the past 6 days and hit a new low weight today but I have a two pound rack of pork ribs in my fridge. Should I cook and eat the entire thing today? I also ate 1500 calories of my diet food already.
how long am I supposed to rest for home exercises? 1 min? 3 mins? does it matter?
So I broke down my diet and realized I was eating pretty clean for the 3 main meals a day totaling around 1500 calories (breakfast - fruit or plain cereal, lunch - salad or turkey sandwich + a fruit, dinner - home cooked food). But then I usually eat 800 calories of goyslop late at night (usually a tv dinner and a cone of ice cream). This seems really bad, but the thing is I'm so fucking fat that this still amounts to a huge calorie deficit so I'm not sure if I should care
salsa would be the miracle snack except you gotta eat it with chips but chips aren't even the part that's good about it. It's just so cucked
Wow this youtuber says he was 30% bodyfat pictured on the right. My dexa scan says I'm 24% bodyfat and I look fatter than that. Could he be lying
>>77241611Depends on what you're aiming for. Home and gym are the same excercise goal wise. Longer rest to push your 1rm, compounds, doing heavy, aiming for strength. Shorter for hypertrophy, endurance, pump.
I need some advice on how to quit sugar, it's what makes me fat but the chocolate cravings are killing me
>>77241652I quit sugar by brainwashing myself into being a complete schizophrenic who tells himself sugar and grains are toxic poison made by the elite to kill him.
>>77241652Frozen fruit! Blueberries and Strawberries! Over a pound of strawberries is 200 calories, and in Canada that's 5 bucks. Split it in two and you have 2.50 for a bunch to fill your stomach.
>>77241694Huh, I quit sugary goods and processed grain products by convincing myself variously I had prediabetes and celiac. After a while I realized I didn't but the taboo remains
>>77241652I assume you just mean added sugars. (one piece of advice for general carbs though is to actually measure pasta and rice before you boil(or for pasta at least get a sense for what portion of the box you're using, really easy to overdo it on those specifically)For meals. With home cooking it's very hard to overdo sugar, just watch when it comes to adding packaged syrups or sauces. With processed meals, it's a minefield some things have around what you'd logically expect but some things go hog fucking on the sugar (for example I got a premade meal once where the only source of sugar was bbq sauce, but they somehow fit 50% of the daily expected value into that bbq sauce) just check the labels so you can get a good sense for what brands pull that shit. Cereal is another one to be very wary of since some of the ones that advertise themselves as healthy have just as much sugar as the colorful children's ones for treats, just work toward reaching a 1 per day limitation and that'll keep you in moderation, just check the labels to make sure that what you're eating isn't so bad that even 1 per day is unreasonable. oh and soda (and similar drinks) is like really fucking bad. Cutting that shit out was #1 priority for me. The good news is that diet stuff tastes like 10x better than I remember it being as a kid, but I personally still limit that to 1-2 per week since I have bad teeth
Dont underestimate a day of fasting a week. That is an additional deficit of minimum 2000 kcal a week. If you average 500 kcal defecit 5 days a week, one day +/-0 and one day fasting. You will reach your bodyfat goal seriously faster. Just make sure you get your salt.Also. Good carbs should still be ca ~60% of calorie intake. Dont worry about not getting enough protein, the body can convert stuff to protein after digestion and you probably have a lot of extra calories in the form of bodyfat to build muscle. Cardio and deficit is key. Fasting is optimal.
>>77239596https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/The thing is. The more weight you lose, the less is your maintanence intake, unless you burn more calories. But at the same time, muscle burns more calories compared to stored fat. So it is a wierd cycle. What is your goal?
>>77240600Fat is essential for absorbing vitamins(most are fat solvable) and protein is essential. Natural sugar is good. Industry sugar should be avoided. Honey is best source of sugar.
You ever spend money on something and eat hundreds of calories worth of it before feeling like it’s gross to the point where you want to throw it away?
>Dont worry about not getting enough protein, the body can convert stuff to protein after digestion and you probably have a lot of extra calories in the form of bodyfat to build muscle.Kek. Don't listen to these snakeoil sales'men'>>77241752Sounds like something a woman does
>>77241754I don’t know why I suddenly dislike crackers I’ve been eating for years
>>77241754I donno man. The body is complicated. I have had personal experience with this a few times. But dont get me wrong. Protein intake is very important, but it is all about how your life looks like in the long run.If I, for example, keep a good diet, hitting my macros and lifting/excercising 11 months out of 12, but still maybe are on 20% body fat because of reasons. Then one month of heavy manual labour, even eating only vegan and maybe even fasting 24 hrs some time can still somehow make you stronger. I cant explain it but i have experienced it myself. While losing fat and ganing muscle
>had 300grams of potato chipsIs it over bros...
>>77241765ur going to get a tummy ache
>>77241732thx anonGoal is hovering at 15% for skin to catch up as best it can, then go to 12%.
>>77241760Yes, your body catabolises the tissues you don't need, and uses it as resources to fortify (densen) up the ones you do need. Your body can't magically alchemise essential amino acids any other way.Fasting protects muscles only if you don't damage them. When you do they're disintegrated asap. If you fast consistently you'll run out of things your body can cannibalize quite quickly.Many forget a big chunk of force comes from the neural side of the body, not just the twitching fibers of muscles. Noob gains aren't muscle gains, but mithocondrial and neural. Only after those are filled will the muscle really start growing. It goes with any type of physical labour as well. Our bodies adapt to our use. What you eat is what you are.
>>77240659>>77240651
>>77240375Diet soda is gay.If you consume artificial sweeteners, you might as well just start sucking men off at the bathhouse.
>>77241913>start
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>>77240212hm i'll have to try that next time! i have some of the powder i'm having a hard time going through due to texture.this time i used a sugar free mix and added some lemon slices and crumbles of raspberriesthank you again
>>77240218You're responding to a bot. Keto is a forced and retarded meme.
>>77241995are the bots in the room with us right now?
>>77241913I don't even remember what normal sugary drinks taste like. Water is king but some diet soda is good to beat the monotonousness of losing weight.
>>77242008Yes. You are a propagandized fake who will never post body. Kill yourself ketoschizo.
My body feels weaker for some reason...
KETO basically makes you a hunter.CICO makes you prey.
>>77242072keto made me fat
How do you know when you've reached the end of your journey? I'm not really sure if I need to keep cutting weight or if at the point I'm at it would be detrimental to me as I'm trying to gain some muscle.
>we wuz lions n sheeeiiit>can't move to save own life
>>77241624>low-fat dietDisastrous. You should definitely care.
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>>77242072Based and correct.>>77242073Fake and gay.
>>77242078When you've reached your goal weight and kept it off for 10+ years.People who do CICO usually start to regain in under 2 years. Eventually they end back at their starting weight or more.
Just got back my bloodwork tests. After losing 21kg my liver enzymes are finally back to the normal range!
>>77242094hell yea
>>77239065>i just feel like im starving when eating only protein.>i feel more hungry than if i just ate RICEthis is very weird.people always report the opposite experience.
>>77242072keto is fucking expensive. but it works.
>>77242078once you can see your abs, you can stop cutting. some prefer to be vascular all over so they keep cutting further.
>>77242117Fasting is ketogenic and it is free.
>>77242122i can't fall asleep easily while fasting. it eventually fucks my sleeping schedule.
>>77242078When you've reached your goal weight and keep shilling keto for 10+ years.People who do keto for that long usually start to lose their minds in under 2 years. Eventually they end totally sedentary.
>be aged 59>eat zero carbs>mog fatties who eat carbs
>>77242136>59lmao you are going to be dead soon while i will still be alive eating carbs
>>77242138Is that what cattle feed consumers actually believe?>meat intake is positively correlated with life expectancies>carbohydrate crops showed weak and negative correlation with life expectancyhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228814/
Reminder ketoschizo hasn’t posted his body a single time in the 5 years he actively posted here. Just fiverr pictures be bought LOL
Eat unlimited calorie zero carbs and you too can look so good you get accused of being a paid model.
>>77242145he actually posted one not too long ago, like within the last week
>>77242145>>77242150https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/77231002/#q77231239
>>77242142how many grams of anabolic steroids is he on?
>>77242150>>77242153Yeah he's claiming that is a paid model.Also paid to hold kirkland beef patties apparently.https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/77231002/#q77231280>>77242157Dr Shawn Baker is natty. Vegans can pay for steroid testing any time but they chickened out because even they know he is natty.
>vegans chickened outThere's a hilarious joke in there somewhere
>>77242160>Dr Shawn Baker is nattyyou can't seriously believe this. look at his delts.
>>77242150Talking in third person I see
am i on steroids if i eat lots of meat
>>77242191no. you're on steroids if you have HUGE delts that are bigger than your arms. those fuckers are notoriously hard to grow and a telltale sign of roids.
>>77242181Looks natty compared to known steroid users. Never got as lean as steroid users. Smaller non-rounded shoulders.Plus he offered to go on an athletic steroid testing regimen if haters pay for it.I mostly judge whether people are telling the truth based on their behaviour. Him offering and haters refusing to pay suggests everyone agrees he is natty.
>>77242191You've got to eat three dozen eggs a day to equal steroids.
>>7724215767
Just ate another doner kebab today, it was delicious. Weight loss is almost effortless and fun when you just count calories.
>>77242203>Never got as lean as steroid usersbecause he likes food too much to try to get that lean. can't blame him there.you don't automatically get lean on steroids. ALL body builders in competitions are on roids and they only get really lean for the stage.>Smaller non-rounded shoulders.he isn't trying so hard to flex them in this photo compared to the other dude. and his side delt is clearly rounded>Him offering and haters refusing to pay suggests everyone agrees he is natty.he can simply pay off whoever is doing the testing for him.i doubt anyone will be willing to part with the kind of money needed to put him in a metabolic ward and be tested by people who won't be bribed.
>>77242211be glad of it. exclusively counting calories doesn't work for everyone.i've been counting calories for months and i've been stalling then i steadily gained 5 pounds.hopped on keto and i'm down 3.5 pounds in a single day.
>>77242217You're trolling right?You know that being 3.5 pounds down in a single day means fuck all right?
>>77242203and one more point i forgot to wrote down:that moreplatesmoredates guy has insane delts genetics. not anyone who hops on roids will get delts like him.
>>77242217>i'm down 3.5 pounds'grats on burning glycogen and using the bathroom mate
>>77242203keep in mind that he's 57being on trt would qualify as steroid usage, but it wouldn't really elevate you to abnormal t values
>>77242217lmao retard
>>77242220i'm not trolling but you missed the point.i've been stalling then i started gaining weight on a deifict and the only thing that broke it is keto.different things work for different people.some people have strong insulin response to fats instead of carbs. can't remember if it was instead of or in addition to but you get the point.different things work for different people and one should always do what works for him.
>>77242211Good luck long term.>>77242217Congratulations on making it. You will succeed for sure.
>>77242222thanks. if i keep it up, i'll start losing fat too.
>>77242150i don't think anyone actually believes the bad post number shooponly boomers are tricked by that nowadays like with sloppa
>>77242232>muh photoshopStay mad, hater.
>>77242227thanks. wagmi
Is it true that diet soda increases sugar cravings?
>>77242246idk. i haven't noticed this.i drank 0.75 liters (~1.5 pints) yesterday.
>>77242246Dr Eric Westman is fine with artificial sweeteners. He's probably the #1 weight loss expert. He actually treats patients. Avoiding carbs is all that really matters.Tastes change over time so if you get rid of sweeteners you eventually won't miss them. But do whatever works for you. I prefer unsweetened sparkling water.
>>77242246not sugar in particularit just makes me slightly hungrier desu
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>see an anon in fattycontest is 70kg>meanwhile my goal weight is 80UH
>>77242262my goal weight for the moment is 110 kg
>>77242262>anon is 5'9">(you) are 6'4"
O ketobro,is yoghurt any good as a snack for keto or do i have to track the carbs and stay under 20g?i know greek yoghurt is recommended for the protein but i don't like its taste.
I hit a very sudden and very absurd crisis in my long term relationship. I think I got like 30 minutes of sleep tops, still did my workout (even if half assed) and count calories, even though I kinda don't feel like eating at all. Life is chaos, you get up to have a fine day but get fucked instead and you don't know when/if things will return to the baseline. Shit fucking sucks. I'm sick of everything.
>>77242326I don't track anything. Sometimes I eat 8% mf yogurt but it's not a staple food for me. I also eat creme fraiche instead of sour cream. Higher fat dairy is better.
>>77242235that's not how timestamps work unc...
