Lifting for a few years to get most of your gains then moving on to sports or another physical activity where you can use your muscles + going to the gym 1 or 2 times/week for maintenance seems to be the correct move to meThen gym eventually gets boring and you hit hard diminishing returns where the time investment needed to make meager progress is not worth it. Most of your physical transformation will happen in the first 2 years.Gymcelling forever is a trap. Roiding seems like a HUGE trap that will fuck your body up for no real benefit
>>77239425Can somebody please explain to me how and when full on “gymcelling” became and thing and why?I was around for a while but haven’t been back since about 2014/2015. I was never under the impression that I needed to be in the gym constantly. It was about looks exactly like now, sure, but I don’t remember ever getting the impression I was supposed to revolve my life around it. In fact, I remember the opposite where you were supposed to always act like you didn’t even try at all. “Wii fit and Zumba” or whatever was the only thing you’d tell others and you certainly didn’t want to be the guy busting ass in the gym constantly just to look good because it’s so goddamn unnecessary.What changed? Am I blatantly misremembering how it was before because I just disregarded bad advice and didn’t commit it to memory?
>>77239428Lifting just became more popular in the last decade or so, and since men overall feel disenfranchised (not without reason) a lot take lifting as a mission in a cringy "I'm overcoming my demons" kind of way, hitting the gym 4 to 7 times a week, which is mostly overkill. I don't blame them, I've been there, but eventually the gym and lifting feels empty and purposeless. To me it's a very fun complementary activity, but I don't see enough substance in it to become anything more than that It's still necessary though, don't mistake me. Everyone needs to lift hard and consistently for at least a couple years to become strong, build muscle mass and realize their physical potential
>>77239431>To me it's a very fun complementary activity, but I don't see enough substance in it to become anything more than that By this I meant that it _eventually_ becomes complimentary. You still need to go hard in year 1 at the very least, and that's when lifting feels the most exciting and you want to go every day
>>77239431why do you people say such stupid shit all the time. 4 days of the gym is the bare minimum advised by most doctors>Everyone needs to lift hard and consistently for at least a couple yearsIts not something you do for two years and stop you filthy dyel rodent. Let me guess you are mid 20s talking like a 40 year old
Sports are arguably worse. They're how you get injured and lose everything. Different if you're a college athlete, but don't be surprised when you just fuck your shit up playing recreational soccer , football, basketball etc...Sports have an astronomically higher injury rate than just strength training.
>>77239431Oh, I see: some guys took it so far that it became a surrogate activity. That is genuinely sad, but indeed what happens in a life wherein it is not easy to find meaning. People seek any of it anywhere they can.So much so that many have started to crave sincerity to the point of blatantly ignoring everything else for it. I’d say that’s also the reason that specifically 4chan memes have been leaking so heavily lately. No matter how ridiculous or retarded, there is at least some element of sincerity and genuineness in there. Even if it is only sincere feelings with no particular facts behind them [that they know]
>>77239438>4 days of the gym is the bare minimum advised by most doctors4 days doesn't leave enough time for other activities. Let me guess, you are either unemployed or a gym rat.>Its not something you do for two years and stop you filthy dyel rodent. Why so hostile? Are you a roid tranny? Feeling hormonal today?>>77239440Well, it depends on the sport. Swimming for example is pretty low risk, but I don't disagree with your point. Most sports bring moderate risk at leastStill, they're different in the sense that they can enhance other aspects of your life (i.e. social life) while also being a fun form of cardio, which most lifters don't do at the gym
>>77239438I hope your day gets better bro
>>77239446>>77239448stop pretending to lift
>>77239446>4 days of the gym is the bare minimum advised by most doctorsNot true. Depending on your priorities, goals and routine, you can hit the gym 1 to 3 times and maintain or grow at a slow but reasonable pace, if you train hard enough.
>>77239452mentzer fags are retards
itt op tries to manipulate and discourage people from doing gym because hes fat weak and gay and coping(90% of what this board is about)
>>77239425Late intermediate strength gains is stronger than you ever need to be for the overwhelming majority of sports performance, and yeah the time and effort investment needed to add 5 lbs a month to a lift takes so much away from what could be one boxing class a week and a weekend at a climbing gym or something. Your day to day life is not getting better by spending 20 hours this month moving your squat up from 410 to 420.Just hit 315 for a set of 20 and be done.
I'm afraid of trying hockey or lacrosse as an adult
>>77239425Most of the people that go to a gym are doing it to indulge in a vanity pursuit or as escapism. It's indicative of how fucked up people have become from social media. The gym is not a trap or doesn't lure you into doing these things you were already in the trap before you went to the gym.
>>77239428gymcel is just a derogatory term for a gym enthusiast, it's not a "thing" like you're describing.
>>77239562you are talking to a (r9k) dyel with the same mentality as elliot rodger
>>77239428>Can somebody please explain to me how and when full on “gymcelling” became and thing and why?its cheap. People sick of watching TV go to the gym instead. THeres nowhere else left.
>>77239570>look at him over there, asking questions… murderously
>>77239562>gymcel is just a derogatory term for a gym enthusiast,No, they're different things, depending on one's motivation
>>77239594hes right though, its yet another femnazi term to stigmatise men going to the gym
>>77239594>they're different thingsnope not anymore. before -cel lingo got co-opted by all the normies, among incels gymcel just meant an incel who lifts as a cope. nowadays, it's just a derogatory term for someone who regularly lifts. granted it's usually used to describe gym-goers with certain other 'incel' traits, like a young, antisocial/socially inept man (you probably wouldn't call your chipper 40 y/o coworker who does crossfit a gymcel), but that's just because of the aforementioned negative connotation already attached to the term
OP is into something Personally I plan to eventually go into kettlebells like the schizo or rings to try and do levers, planches. Keeping things fresh and fun with new goals.
>>77239425All is vanity if it is not fun.I do low volume freeweights fullbody 6 times per week on average 20 minutes per day at home. I have been doing it since forever.My stats worthy of note are max 13 pull ups no weight attached at 100kg lean mass (hungry skeleton mode) and one rep max 70kg OHP, I see no reason to buy any more plates.
>>77239425Sports? Are you in grade school? No adults play sports, and you're not a pro athlete.
>>77239428>>77239431>>77239443>>77239625You're genuinely all midwits trying your hardest to sound smarter than you could ever wish to be but all it does is fall flat
>>77240281stop trying
>>77239625Fair enough. I concede, using cel terminology is playing into misandrist hands. Still, what I meant by that is men who use the gym as cope due to lack of purpose. I don't shame these men, I just want them to find more fruitful goalsThis is not dissuading people from lifting, like that guy said, but it shouldn't become a surrogate activity>>77240278You don't need to be a pro athlete to reap benefits from sports, in the same way you don't need to be a competitive bodybuilder to see benefits from lifting>No adults play sportsThis is how the normie thinks
