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Why are you bulking and injuring yourself with heavy weights when you would go much further with just some basic calisthenics and cardio?

$100 says most women, and even many men, would prefer this physique compared to a thicc boi with a bubble butt
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>>77241500
What if I'm lean with a bubble butt
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>>77241500
that guy in the pic doesnt even move
im dyel, similar bodyfat, work on a laptop but i aint like that because i actually go outside, walk instead of drive (and carry a backpack when im on the road which is often) and generally interact with the world every day
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because i am fucking gay and like big muscles and so does my twink boyfriend
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people that do Calisthenics are some of the thiccest booty bois. they're all built like olympic gymnast. what are you talking about lol
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>>77241500
1. You talk like a retard
2. Muscle and strength are protective. You're healthier strong than frail.
3. I've been that size and been bigger and bigger is better for most women
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>>77241500
First of all, all statistics time and time again show that personalitymaxxing is the only strat if you are doing it for women, so from that point of view the whole fitness discussion is pointless and irrelevant.
You can be tall, short, buff, you can be lean/dyel/twink, you can have some muscle or too much, you can be fat, it doesn't matter, personalitymaxx and your immediate gains in opportunities will be like 3000x compared to grinding your joints into dust at a gym because it's a simple game of numbers at the end

Said that, the most popular "hollywood" male physique that suposedly has to appeal to a male and female audience is exactly that: lean (visible abs) with some muscle (think Brad Pitt in Fight Club), or take kdramas that are extremely popular among women (not a very good example because korea is obsessed with looks but you get the point), you got it right: cardio for abs and calisthenics/light gym to not look like a dyel.
So from a purely utilitarian and cost analysis perspective the lean/thin physique wins due to the relatively "low" (let's be real most people won't have the patience to cut and train to ever see their abs so you are still way ahead of the curve, it's not easy) investment to looks gains ratio. I mean think about it: clothes immediately fit better, cardio improves day to day life and so on.
However obviously if your life demands it then packing on muscle is the path for you, or maybe you just like to look big and strong and that's totally fine.
So what I'm saying is that as long as you are in good shape (whether lean or buff) you will be fine.
>>77241518
Except calisthenics people are not gymnasts and they don't train like gymnats, the end result will depend on your genetics, some people end up looking quite good and some people don't, see transformation pics on the calisthenics subreddit.
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>>77242151
>Muh personality
>Proof : posts conventionally attractive men (tall, long hair, sharp bones)
Just kill yourself
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>>77242156
Did you even read the post?
>statistics time and time again show that personalitymaxxing is the only strat
I didn't say that the proof is handsome looking men, the proof is literally you going outside where you surely won't see average kdrama actors around. Arguing that personality is not the most important part is, once again, arguing with statistics.
What's the point of having the best physique in the world if you are an autistic sperg that can't hold a conversation or barely leave your basement?
Not sure why you got so angry but you probably misunderstood the post. Improving your looks/physique is great and all but as I said, if you were to choose between grinding your joints in a gym 6 days a week for marginal improvements in looks (naturally) or personalitymaxxing then personalitymaxxing is absolutely the way to go.
>Just kill yourself
And you too have a nice day.
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OP isn't lean and fit, that's what we call a DEE-YELL
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It depends on where you mindset is at, if you wanna mog you have to eat more and bench more
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>>77241500
>$100 says most women, and even many men, would prefer this physique

Who gives a shit, I train to be strong, I don't care if I don't excite homos and bitches
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>>77242163
There's no skill tree here retard, nothing to say or how to stand up or wear to look more appealing to women. You're a clown, a jester. Real life isnt the skyrim persuasion skill
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>>77242179
>random insults
Not sure what your problem is, the topic here is strictly physique.
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>>77242151
>>77242163
there's no such thing as personalitymaxxing, you either have it or you don't. this is the same type of delusion that trannies have - you can't switch your brain chemistry. you can trick some of the more gulible retarded women and/or ones who know but bite anyway, but everyone else knows you're a douche trying too hard
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>>77242188
>you either have it or you don't
This is factually wrong. Some parts are stable and some parts of it are not, but you can absolutely change and improve your personality, I don't even have to elaborate on this.
>trannies out of nowhere
Whatever man, it's not my job to change your mind but you are fighting with windmills here.
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>>77241500
based, got the powerfatties seething
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>>77242184
>the topic here is strictly physique.
>Hurr durr you can monkey dance your way into pussy
Pick one
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Test
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>>77241500
Wrong board, faggot.
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How do I get this physique but like slightly more muscular?
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>>77241500
I'm lean and bulky and do calesthenics and heavy weights and cardio without injuring myself. Sounds like probably some kinda skill issues if you're stuck in these false choices.

>>77242494
Get like me; do all the exercises, basically.
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>>77241501
Then you're not lean enough.
>>77241511
He doesn't have to move, he moves the world around him
>>77241533
I talk fine. That guy I posted has enough muscle. You don't need to weigh 200 lbs at 8% bf to have muscle.
>>77242151
Personality doesn't matter that much. As long as you're not a horrible human and you're hot, most people will be with you. People overrate how important personality is. Personality won't help you get dates if you're chopped. That's why so many "nice guys" are in the friend zone.

I do agree with you though that there is more functionality to being fit and being able to run a mile without stopping than to carrying heavy things as a normie white collar worker.
>>77242175
Just a lie, most moggers are thin and lean.
>>77242178
What's the point of training to be strong when you have high blood pressure?
>>77242163
Being an autistic sperg is a huge debuff that is hard to get around. I won't argue with you, but you vastly overestimate how much having a "good personality" will help you if you're 50 lbs overweight and have a bad face. Once you can hold a decent convo and not be retarded, other things start mattering a LOT more, but yeah being ND means your personality is so bad that it subtracts from other qualities about you.
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>>77241500
Love to rape lean faggots
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>>77242188
This is somewhat true. Charisma is something you're born with. You can improve a few points here and there, but your personality at 10 is similar to what it will be at 30
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>>77242494
Lots of cardio, low impact exercises, only eat once a day, use some type of stimulant and go from there.
>>77243141
Well if you're raping them that makes you the faggot
>>77242233
It's so bad here man. I fell for that shit for way too long
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>>77241500
This is akin to a tranny taking a pic at the perfect angle to hide their jaw. This dude looks okay in this picture but in real life he looks like a skinny little 12 year old with noodle limbs.
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>>77243229
Most women think this guy is hot hot lol
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>>77243135
>You don't need to weigh 200 lbs at 8% bf to have muscle.
Sure, but I'm up at 215 with 10% bf, still run a 6:30 mile and a 57-sec 400m. Did the whole ottermode marathoner thing as underage b& and was also a powershitter ham briefly, both which kinda sucked desu. Could I cut back down to victim w8 and still frame mog? Sure. Do I want to? Nah, a slightly faster mile time isn't worth the weakness.
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Major trooned out wog vibes itt



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