I did some tests regarding nofap + diet and can share the findings.What I wanted to find out is how nofap would affect my body and mind, combined with diet changes (nosugar in particular), and with different types of porn.Surprisingly, there seems to be a clear pattern for me: after 7 days of nofap, my mind and behavior starts changing. There's an increase in calmness, clarity and focus, thoughts become more positive overall, EVEN if I look at porn or eat sugar. It seems to be a purely physical effect because as long as I don't actually masturbate, this can be reproduced again and again.>case1: 7 days nofap + noporn + nosugar (this doesn't include the "normal" amounts of sugar you take in via food, losugar might be more accurate)Increase in calmness, clarity and focus, thoughts become more positive overall. Ate mostly red beans, broccoli, beef, etc no slop.>case2: 7 days nofap + nopornIncrease in calmness, clarity and focus, thoughts become more positive overall. Ate mostly red beans, broccoli, beef, but also stuff like donuts or chocolate, which didn't impact the overall outcome.>case3: 7 days nofapIncrease in calmness, clarity and focus, thoughts become more positive overall. Ate mostly red beans, broccoli, beef, but also stuff like donuts or chocolate, which didn't impact the overall outcome.In addition I also looked at porn but did noit masturbate, which also didn't impact the overall outcome.So far it would seem that the effects of eating some slop here and there or looking at porn paled to the main aspect, which is not fapping.
>>77246470>nofapwhen you say that, i take that edging is off the table too?
keep us posted, brother.actually make it a periodic thingI have been gooning for 16 years and never stopped for more than 1 week, and that was the only time I stopped for a week because my PC broke downnow I'm aiming to go as long as I can until I date or find a prostitute
>>77246470yeah i've arrived to a similar conclusion when seriously cutting back on porn/masturbation after noticing that it may be messing with my erection quality during sex. as long as i don't jack off to porn regularly, it's very well back to baseline in all regards. i did watch porn during periods of abstaining but only briefly, like skipping through a website before stopping myself etc.
>muh anecdotal "evidence"There is nothing in your three self-reported datapoints that leads anyone with any scientific training to conclude that not jerking off a few times a week leads to internal calmness. In fact, the actual evidence (not self-reports based on muh feelings) point to to the opposite. You have a good diet, you should stick with it. There is a reason testimonial evidence in science has a low value, it is subjective, uncontrolled, and highly susceptible to biases. Science prioritizes objective and reproducible data from controlled experiments, systematic observations, and statistical analysis. In this case the main bias is that jerking off is bad and leads to bad effects, in a real study you wouldn't even know the hypotheses of the study because it would influence your self-reports.
>>77246490>obligatory gooner whiteknighting his porn addiction
>>77246490This is not a study or proof of anything, I just did several test runs and shared what I found for those that are interested.You must look within and find out why you had such a reaction.
>>77246470>>77246526dont be gay about it and think you have become someone else. that is the most immature and egotistical thing you can do. this is liek thinking working out for a few weeks turned you into an elite athlete. do it for maybe 2 or 3 years and come back and tell us how much it changed your life or really didnt do a thing.
It’s well known test peaks after 7-10 days of no fap but then plummet’s back down again
>>77246470No porn is legit unless you want to be.THE OUTSIDE MANLOOKING IN A WINDOWSCREEN GAZERKEKLIARPEEPING TOMCREEPY LITTLE RETARDNIGGERJEW SUPPORTERJust stop with the porn already, it rots your brain.
Did 60 days and relapsed at the end of April and i have been low energy and depressed since. Not to mention that i fapped 5 times since the start of May which is almost everyday so this shit is addicting aswell. I'm getting back on the streak tho because if you go long periods abstaining from fapping, porn and edging is literal suicide of the soul. Porn is demonic and nofap is the final redpill. Good luck to all.
>>772470074chan has done far worse but here you are
>>77247024>i have been low energy and depressed sincelmao, this site is just filled with absolute big fat soft pussies. im surprised you didnt say you started crying
>>77247029>im surprised you didnt say you started crying I'm not even kidding, when you reach high streaks like 100+ days, when you relapse, you feel like a depleted beta. I was a literal npc for days. Also the typical stacies at the gym who gave me mires when i had a lot of magnetism and pheromones from SR streak, they stopped giving me attention so i'm 100% sure that nofap works. Repent
>>77246470>calmnessusecase? what good is nofap if you can't get sex with females? even some ten-year olds are getting fucked by some sub 80 IQ monkey
>>77247084>you feel like a depleted betayou talk like a fuckin geek. get off the internet and go live an actual life.
>>77247090kids on the internet will tell you otherwise but its literally for losers who are desperate for some kind of change. the problem with this is that they believe doing nothing will improve their lives instead of directly working towards something they want. if you actually let some internet meme influence how you live, you literally need to get off the internet for a long time
>>77247093>get off the internet and go live an actual life.What's that supposed to mean? I work, i lift i come home and sleep. You want me to go eat at a restaurant or something? Lol then what?
>>77247147it means you talk like a geek, just read out loud the gay posts you made in this thread
>>77246470i'm gonna do a week of nofap because i plan on fasting once my bulk is done, and if i don't have the mental fortitude to stop fapping for a week, there's no way in hell i'll keep myself from eating for 3 days
>>77246470Don't touch your weewee when you think of Sydney Sweeney
Just sad that rockstars, nfl players, basketballers, and even modern day boxers don't have this problem.It's just an oldschool saying. I think nofap is good for spiritual reasons and to avoid porn, but this stuff about energy just feels like blueballing yourself to me. It's like people saying they feel more energetic on a fast. Yeah if you weren't unhealthy af that wouldn't be the case, but I guess now that your body is taking a break from digesting food with your shitty digestion and metabolism it helps you. Why are there no studies done on telomere lengthening through abstinence from sex, or other longevity markers? Some rich cryptofag could easily experiment on himself, they have the most to gain being behind a screen allday.
>>77247093>an actual life.Take your gay ass reddit vernacular back to you know where
So I've been struggling with no-porn and nofap for a long time. I always feel the benefits when I abstain and the detriments when I relapse. However the last month and a half I have had no interest in porn. I also am a bit low energy. I really want to make it this time. Plz tell me to keep going.
>>77247472did i hit a nerve?
>>77247316its because actual adults have real things to do rather to worry about some meme on the internet created by grade school children.
>>77247479Keep going bro, its always a big downwards spike, its your dopamine system resetting to a more normal baseline.There is a low right now, for some time. But after this low, your energy is going to keep getting better. Its hard to explain. Its like a slow increase in good energy, that just keeps going on and on.I promise you better times if you keep going.>1.5 years on Semen retention.
>>77247520thank you fren
>>77246470holy fuck you losers will do anything except go talk to a girl
>>77247084>Also the typical stacies at the gym who gave me mires when i had a lot of magnetism and pheromones from SR streakand you never even said so much as hello to any of them
>>77246470Anytime I go 3+ days (done up to a month) of nofap I literally go insane and am so horny I'd fuck a couch.I don't get how people do it. Or do it voluntarily. The only time I can manage is on a family holiday, because I have to.
>>77247316>rockstars, nfl players, basketballers, and even modern day boxers don't have this problem.Nofap as a belief system falls apart when you realize that the most desirable, successful, and physically fit men are clapping cheeks as often as every day with no deleterious effects on their existence.It's all a "feel good" fiction meant to gain control where there is none, like a pregame ritual for a sports fan or an astrology girlie saying her relationship catered because she was dating a Virgo.
>>77246470Based, i always felt it was cope blaming everything on porn and thinking masturbating has no effect
>>77247084>I'm not even kidding, when you reach high streaks like 100+ days, when you relapse, you feel like a depleted beta.Very true. And then it takes at least 1x week to feel better, and about a month to get back to your usual confidence.
Whenever I have maintained nofap I felt like an actual manic urge to talk to women and get their numbers or give my own. Is this some kind of natural drive being rediscovered?
>>77248441No you were just very horny
>>77248101>and you never even said so much as hello to any of themMost days where i feel good I do talk to them but just small talk, i'm still afraid of getting rejected so i play it safe. Also not all women are worth talking to
>>77248687>afraid of getting rejected>not all women are worth talking toairtight cope, pal
>>77246490
I remember when I was doing 3 weeks of nofap plus OMAD I started having burst of happiness during the day out of nowhere, I never did drugs but I think that is what someone could call being high. I need to do this shit again.
>>77248688In a gym setting yeah, also when i'm not sure they are into me why risk it at all? You know what i mean?
>>77248564AHHHH GOD DAMNIT MY DICK IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE I GOTTA GIVE MY PHONE NUMBER AHHHH
>>77246470>did noit masturbateSounds like you're becoming stupid
>>77246490You're 100% correct
>>77247479>benefits>detrimentsWhich are????
Ye I stopped fapping and mood/motivation increased. Though at times I'm so horny I can't focus on mental work.
I want to go on a streak again but the thing about nofap/noporn is I think it turned me into a premature ejaculator. So I don't know what to do anymore really
>>77249318You know what you need to do
>>77246470But aren't you introducing massive hormonal imbalances into the system? Isn't this very much akin to yo-yo crash dieting giving you eventually opposite renault to what you wanted? > hurt durr, forget about sex all togetherWell if you do that after some time your body will adapt and test will drop like a strone won't it?
>>77246475this is the way, i mean a better path, of course the right way is not being a degenerate but us degens have to make do with just being less degenerate
i fap so i dont have to be horny anymorei hate feeling hornyif i could take a pill that would just kill all sexual desire that would be amazinganyway about to jerk off to tomboys on /a/
>>77250500be blue collar you'll stop being horny if you touch enough chemicals and inhale enough fumes
>>77246515>He thinks you need pornography to masturbate
>>77247147You just described a wagie with no friends or a sex life. He told you to GET a life.
>>77248118Because they're being retarded and torturing themselves. Your body is made to create and expel semen regularly. When you don't, it can have psycological effects including low mood and depression. But the biggest problem with most of the people in this thread is simple: They're trying to not do one thing to solve other things. Just like lifting weights isn't going to solve your lack of social skills, nofap isn't going to solve anything else. If you're masturbating constantly to the point its detrimental to your family/friends/gf/work, then yeah, you need to cool it. Massive hour long good sessions, yeah maybe don't do that very often. But regular masturbation is fine. Note that I said masturabtion and not porn. Porn can be fine in moderation, but some people can't handle it without getting addicted.
>>77247479I struggled with it for about 20 years. Started getting super out of control, I was seeing prostitutes and mouth fucking sissies I met on the internet. Very dark places.I overcame though.>how?I tried a lot of different shit, but one thing worked. Surrender to Jesus Christ and a return to the religion I was raised in but had apostasized.I began going to confession every time I committed a grave sin of lust, and even saw a catholic therapist. I was clean in flourish months (not easy and ups and downs on the way).Maybe it’s not what works for you, but I have been trying to quit intensely with no luck for about 11 years. Hitting rock bottom inspired me to finally completely surrender to God.Now the stuff really disgusts me desu, I see it as a demonic lie and a literal Jewish weapon against the gentile.
>>77250619>your body is made to expel semen>watch videos of hardcore unrealistic video pornographyYeah cause that’s what we’re “made for”You’re trying to pass off as intelligent but your stream of consciousness is ungornt also >reddit spacingYeah they love porn on Reddit bro, they defend it like this. At least here when people are goofing they own up the degeneracy
Masturbation is obviously normal but you shouldn't be in a position to do it multiple times daily in any case. Porn is not normal. It's old, but we've not had access to it, like we do now, for much more than 20 years at most. Jacking off to high def, high intensity, highly graphic, highly specific pornography, on a regular basis, ain't normal and it ain't good for you at all.I've got nothing against sex at all. If you've got a woman and you can fuck twice a day, every day, go for it. Nothing unhealthy about that. In fact I'd say it's healthy to have that kind of libido and sexual stamina. Porn though... Nope. Not good. If you don't think it's doing you any harm, wanking to porn everyday, just fucking try and stop for two weeks. Just don't even look at it for two weeks and keep your hands off your cock. I fucking bet you that you can't do it. That's how you know it's a problem.
>>77246470Why did they photoshop her with a scooter? I don't get it. She's nothing like a Saiyan / Frieza soldier nor is she even a ChiChi or a Bulma. I don't get it.
>>77248219>fit men are clapping cheeks as often as every day with no deleterious effects on their existenceIn my experience, having sex and fapping to porn have very different effects. When I had sex with a prostitute, I felt energized for days, whereas masturbating only makes me feel depressed and drained. Maybe it's just because I'm lonely and can't get sex without paying.
>>77246470be careful lots of pro-fap shills itt
>>77251156Fr, Really sad to see how present mossad is on this board nowadays.
>>77246490>the actual evidenceMay I see it?
>>77246470Ritual comes about from an attempt to guarantee an outcome. For example: u guys want to fuck bitches so instead of trying and accepting that you might fail you protect your fantasy that maybe just maybe you will fk a goth with a fat ass. This is called surplus enjoyment. So it leads to shit like this you basically circle the object of desire (object b) while you are enjoying the ACT of DESIRING itself and that is (object petit a, which is the Desire to fuck) so nofap is a way to basically enjoy the desire of fucking a hot girl without collapsing the fantasy that you actually could. This leads to crazy town. This is how u get a onitis, nofap you start seeing signs like her name somewhere or a number that's the start of obsession an attempt to guarantee an outcome where there is no guarantee and there never will be. To make something not your god you need to accept that it won't bring you finality meaning or completeness and then do it anyways.
