Post your esoteric fitness theories in this thread. Maybe you know some unconventional training modality that goes against the common consensus, or you have some soccer mom herbal supplement to shill that you swear doubles your testosterone. Personally I've been perusing some scientific research that shows that maximum voluntary contraction is capable of inducing a hypertrophic response. This in combination with some of the research around isometrics, potentially means things like the old fashion bronze era meme stuff like Maxick and Sandow might have some validity. If you could get jacked by just flexing your muscles that obviously would be the ultimate fitness method, so I think it's something worth exploring.
Testosterone is a social hormone, and the #1 factor in your testosterone levels is your social environment. ie: how other people treat you. AKA social status.Anything that others do that makes you feel accepted, respected, admired or powerful will rise your testosterone and keep it high.Anything that others do that makes you feel rejected, disrespected, slighted, weak, humiliated and powerless will tank your testosterone and keep it suppressed.As a rule of thumb, your social status and social environment is responsible for 80% of your T gains; and all the other things like diet, sleep, exercise will only affect 20%.The quickest way to increase testosterone is to do things that raise your social status and make other people respect you more.>getting a better paying or more prestigious job, >dressing better, >getting a newer and better car, >getting a prettier girlfriend or anything else that makes you feel successful and is proof that you're doing better than others.Conversely, you can immediately tank your T levels by engaging in loser behaviors that make you feel bad about yourself: >not grooming yourself properly and looking like shit, >not dressing well, >being unemployed and a NEET,>being a loner with no friends nor dating prospects,Risk-taking increases testosterone because usually you take risks in order to accomplish these things. ie: talking to a pretty girl, starting a business, looking for a better job.Your body gives you T which will make the effort feel good and motivate you to accomplish the goal. Testosterone is what your body gives you when you are "on the hunt" for something.NO GOALS & NO PURPOSE == NO TESTOSTERONETL;DR: Testosterone is triggered by goals the achievement of which will raise your social status.Our grand-grandfathers didn't need to micromanage their diets and go to the gym to be MEN. They were too busy doing REAL SHIT.
>>77248774This is real af, my test levels highly increased this last summer when i decided to go abroad with some random that did crazy shit like sports competitions, clubbing and things like that, I swear to god this is so true, it's a fucking dynamo, if you put value in yourself, your body will put value in too
>>77248774This somehow explain why people behave so weirdly when I lived in the US.
>>77248774>Self-esteem and confidence = testI assure you it does not. Test is what causes high self-esteem and confidence.
>>77248899It's probably an upward spiral but you do need some level of self confidence to start the spiralIt does also explain why normies are so obsessed with their social status and possessions and looks.
>>77248912>It does also explain why normies are so obsessed with their social status and possessions and looks.Normies are perpetually scared of not being good enough, to the point it becomes all there is in their lives, that's what makes one a normie.
>>77248774But highest testosterone animal also being the leader/animal with highest social status just makes sense. Did his testosterone increase with rank or rather did his testosterone allow him to be stronger and more virile and thus give him status?That would be like saying the biggest blackest nigger with the biggest cock should lead us, it works in the jungle I guess.
>>77248918>Normies are perpetually scared of not being good enoughExactly and this is what lowers testosterone in the first place.Being stress at work? Low t.Being divorced by wife? Low t.Eating out all the time because of peer pressure? Low t. The final redpill is to have your own business or being freelance worker where you can make your schedule and build on that. Most of >>77248774>getting a better paying or more prestigious job, >dressing better, >getting a newer and better car, >getting a prettier girlfriend This is all good on paper but cars and better paying jobs come with a price, and being overworked will result in low t. tl;dr Sleep and lifting is the best buck for your buck for increasing t
>>77248972>The final redpill is to have your own business or being freelance worker where you can make your schedule and build on that.I'd say having a low stress job, that can provide you with everything you need to live a decent life, is the optimal.
>>77248979Being rich is the ultimate way of being high t desu. Being broke and stressed and getting shitty food/supps is surely not a good way to keep the test levels high.
>>77248972This is in fact a zero-sum game, and I believe there is a better way to raise the collective levels of testosterone which is cooperation and competition in a friendly environment.The thing with status is that, low status is a stressor. It's called "social stress". So animals with social stress might have lower testosterone levels, makes sense to me. But how can we ensure people don't constantly engage in the rat race that Mr. Schlomo set up for us, while still having high testosterone as a collective? A high-trust society where people don't rely on beating their neighbour Jones through consumption and materialism to have more testosterone.While I like your theory, you apply it in the most debased manner possible.So if people don't have social stress (perceived threat of survival because of lack of resources through low status), then status matters less. Of course convincing hylics of this is impossible as they are closer to animals, but as a nation we men should lift each other up. Not be afraid of status games anymore and realize that social stress is caused by our animalistic instinct thinking that low status means problems with surviving.
>>77248899You are mistaking cause and effect. It works both ways. In this case it's a positive feedback loop, like picture related.An increase in social status raises testosterone (naturally), and the increased testosterone emboldens you to keep trying to achieve and accomplish more, which may raise social status even more if successful.Lots of roiders are incredibly insecure and angry all the time because their real world social status does not match their artificially high testosterone levels.The trigger is ambitious goals and prospects of a better future, and real-world confirmation that you're succeeding.It's not just "self-esteem". Having real-world evidence that you are in fact higher status is what triggers the increase.
>>77248983>Being rich is the ultimate way of being high t desu. Being broke and stressed and getting shitty food/supps is surely not a good way to keep the test levels high.Making enough money so you don't have to worry about affording good food is the lowest bar for "being rich" I have ever seen.
>>77248774>tiktok level intellect>zero scientific backingThis was literally made for incels and chuddies. 100% bullshit how do I know? Cause the modern day social hierarchy gives zero fucks about being fit. The very society we live in is the perfect proof this is fucking bullshit.
>>77248986For what I can see, being stressed and suffering from social pressure will greatly suppress your test. Having a high social status just spare you from this.
>>77248662Having a gf or wife ruins gainz, test, etc. Ive been married twice, I was ripped before each marriage and 2 years in I looked DYEL in both. After each divorce my physique exploded back. Being single makes me strongest.
>>77248984>you apply it in the most debased manner possible.The best way to win the game is to not play it. While i agree that being statusmaxxed will result in way more pussy and money because that's how women operate (hypergamy). I also believe that 90% of all this theory we are talking about is genetics. Everything is determined by your height,face and brain chemistry. A 160cm indian male will never be statusmaxxed no matter what he does. So my theory at the ripe age of 33 is to literally not play the game. Lift hard, sleep a lot and trying finding a gf through cold approaching that can be a wife material. Sorry i'm not gonna be joining your rat race guys, but good luck.
>>77248965The idea that the strong tall man that bullies other weaker men and makes himself the leader by force is a sociopathic power fantasy with no basis in the real world.Human social hierarchies are almost never decided by raw strength or physical size. Neither in modern society nor in nature when humans live in tribes has this ever been observed.There's a correlation of height and income and likelihood of being popular enough to gain elections, but the people who hold the real power & influence in society rarely are the greatest physical specimens.The most powerful men in society are always the ones that either inherited that position or are good at diplomacy aka social skills to gain support of others, or by trading favors with others to get their support.>>77248972>The final redpill is to have your own business or being freelance workeTrue. What I said applies within the context of the normie-wagie "keeping up with the Joneses" social hierarchy. It's the best example of it.But that hierarchy includes lots of situations where you will be constantly humiliated by superiors at work, or universities or other institutions where they regularly practice humiliation rituals.Men who avoid all of this altogether by working by themselves or being business owners will have much higher T levels (only IF successful!!).Not having a stupid, useless, ignorant boomer middle manager yelling at you and pressuring you and causing you stress is wonderful for your T levels. Picture also related.
>>77249013>(only IF successful!!).Actually not true, what requires you to have high t while freelancing is having motion. So when you develop the skill and be reliable and build some reputation, you can keep landing gigs which are not high paying but you at least have motion. 2026 for me it's kinda worse than last year despite having more gigs that will make me get paid less by 20% but i decided ill bite the bullet and have motion that rot inside because you never know who you will network with at those gigs. But yeah fuck being a wagie
>>77249013I don't see high testosterone in your examples of "leaders" either. Jews aren't high testosterone, neither rich cunts. A farmer is more likely to be high T than them, literally (bloodwork). Even if the rich fag optimizes everything and lives a natural life. You can't cheat that.I think you make the assumption that less social stress (either enlightenment or higher status) means higher t. But why is that? Because testosterone and stress don't go together.So high status will optimize your testosterone because you are less stressed, but that doesnt mean you are high t. It also doesnt mean your victory was because of the testosterone. It just means you optimized your own T. Trust me, there are plenty of very high t people that are not leaders fucking stacies left and right and happy with their lives.>High status = low stress = higher t>High status != highest t relative to population>Highest T != leader (perhaps in animals lmao)>Leaders will of course have higher averages as they have better circumstances>But in general the highest t people like athletes are just genetic specimens.In any case, I don't disagree with you I'm just testing your theory. Now, if we completely agree with your idea, is consumption not our god?
Coffee and citrus are key to longevity and crocodile-like immunity system and health. I literally reversed damage done to my body over the years of neglect with a few years of fasting with coffee and oranges. I unironically drink lemon squeezed in water every day on an empty stomach. I repaired my liver, I repaired my kidneys, I repaired my shoulder, I repaired my broken left arm, I repaired my lower back. I am now bulletproof.An isotonic drink made with lemon, lime, salt and honey is the closest you'll get to a health potion in real life.Deadlifts off a platform (deficit deadlifts) is a key exercise for untold power. It's a fountain of youth type of exercise, similar to lunges.Sprinting is one of the most violent acts you can put your body through, but that also makes it one of the most spiritual exercise. Do sprinting once a week if you can, and if you do, make sure to warm up EXTREMELY WELL and prime every single muscle and joint in your body. Your sprinting workout should contain sprints, that's all, and everything you do that whole workout session should be in assistance to your sprints.Sprinting is like fasting for your limbic system. Think when fasting, your body wants to eat. Your body doesn't want to [not eat], samewise your body doesn't want to [sprint].[Not eat] and [sprint], both these actions are the furthest away from a desired state of being. Both are "life threatening" (in)actions; starvation and fight-or-flight responses (sprinting in this case).
Hunger is not real. It is just lack of salts.I find, most of all, that the salts suppress hunger and the "need for food items" so to speak. You will find out that your insatiable "hunger" mostly comes for an unpleasant NEED for salty food. Think pizza, think all the chips and fast food shit. It's not real hunger, it's never true hunger. Think about it, you haven't been starved for 3 months during harsh winters. You literally can't be hungry today, so what it is? What it that hunger that you feel daily? It's your body screaming for salts and minerals. You'll discover that if you drink something rich in minerals (like lemon water with salt and honey), your mindless hunger eventually subsidies. Then you can begin rebuilding your foundation and cultivate a stronger self.What I'm getting at, loosely, is that the hunger most people in the modern age feel is unnatural and mostly evil in nature. Also like most evil things, it's not real. Not actually. All evil things have, usually, an extremely easy fix.In the past, things like "magic fountains" of youth were real because the ground and plants and trees were much cleaner and whole, the earth wasn't depleted and empty of minerals. With adaptation you could eventually abandon foot items entirely and live for a very long time just off spring water enriched with all sorts of natural compounds, that don't even exist today.
>>77249079>In the past, things like "magic fountains" of youth were real because the ground and plants and trees were much cleaner and whole, the earth wasn't depleted and empty of minerals.Peak chinaposting.
>>77248895Care to elaborate?
>>77249109The way that anon describes his bugman mentality is a great description for how most people in the US behaved, I couldn't put my finger on it, and now it's much clearer.
>>77248662Imagine you curl a weight that is dangling from a cable. At the top the weight briefly unloads and then re-tensions the cable, producing a transient shock load and involuntary reactive contraction in the biceps during deceleration, and at the bottom, you get a reactive contraction from momentum reversal and stretch reflex dynamics. You get regular baseline tension, additional, involuntary contractions, and stronger peak contractions. You can get a similar, but smoother effect, if you curl a barbell (e.g. a 5' one) with one hand. The main idea is that your target muscle also acts as a stabilizer. The downside is higher injury risk, but it works, and I've never felt that it's unsafe.
>>77249109Constant status checks don't work in a high-trust society, they destabilize it. Amerigolem are programmed to be like animals so they behave like animals where they believe that having low status means lower chances of survival even though they're mostly obese. This line of thinking ironically gives way to hypergamy, where the status seekers now have to work even harder to be at the top. It's just a zero sum game that gets harder the more people give into it, where everyone believes they are temporarily embarassed chads or temporarily embarassed rich people. Engaging in mindless consumerism to prove one's worth, exactly like Schlomo wants it.
>>77248774Look fags The best test gains is trying to rape
>>77249125>Constant status checks don't work in a high-trust society, they destabilize it.Being fair, I'd put the US as an extremely low-trust society, as far from high-trust as possible.
>>77249129They reached that point by now, yes. It was much different 1 generation ago, and immensely different 2 generations ago.
>>77249134I really don't know, this sounds a bit like the "boasting about uniqueness" that is so common to Americans. But either way, today's US is a clearly not high-trust.
>>77249123That is science and it's being used since, at least, the 60s, check some soviet olympic trainings
>>77249070how much lemon and salt anon? how much water?and can you tell me your exercise routine, or at least the compounds you value the most (I already see the lunge and deficit deadlift).
>>77249731As with everything that's good for you, go with your "feel", intuit. I personally use mildly warm water (not too warm, just not fridge cold), mix the honey in, squeeze half a lemon, a pinch of rock salt about as much as gets in between two fingers, then add cold water. I can drink 1 liter of this in a single gulp.
>>77249079>Hunger is not real. It is just lack of salts.>I find, most of all, that the salts suppress hunger and the "need for food items" so to speak.Interesting hypothesis.When I ran out of money and had no food for a month (back years ago in university) I would eat salt because it was all I had.
After years of doing it, I think that the average man would (all other things being equal) build a better physique if he exclusively trained with machines than if he exclusively trained with free weights. Not that you should, just that if you had to you would probably do better with the machinesWhen I started this wasn’t the wisdom. It still isn’t. This doesn’t mean that you can’t build a great physique with just free weights, but on balance you could probably do better with solely machine work. I have no way of testing this out, it’s just a theory. And I still use free weights in every session at least once or twice
>>77249894your getting very close to the truth, namely, that muscle building is generally useless to strenght/muscular endurance training.if someone can perform the same lift with less muscle, that is advantageous from a survival standpoint. the muscles are efficient, work together well, fire well, and the body can probably keep performing in worse circumstances. Now compare that to modern bodybuilders, even naturals, that train with mind muscle connection and isolation movements and have a lot of muscle that is very "weak" relative to athletes.So I believe that machines will build more muscle, but I believe that making muscle building the goal is degenerate to begin with. One should try to increase performance and athleticism, whether muscular endurance or strength in a way that is useful and will strengthen bone and tendon and not solely muscle.So the goal should instead be to perform as well as possible with the least amount of muscle, not the most amount of muscle. Those people miss a single carb meal and already start feeling less full.
>No one mentions zinc for the test gains and better hair>No one mentions garlic to keep illness and jews away
>soccer mom herbal supplement to shill that you swear Posted this recently but when I had Lyme and was seeing a witchdoctor, we alternated between pills and natural abx sources and everything made me feel like shit Except picrel for brain fog. Could have entirely been an insane placebo but in retrospect, I'm pretty sure it's just increasing blood flow to the brain. You can achieve the same by literally any form of exercise, but doing physical activity with brain fog takes a fuckton of will power
>>77248662The way to look natty regardless of how much you juice is to do low rep strength training for 5-10 years then volume for another 5. Then once you hop on the juice you'll always look tight and detailed rather than bloated. My group did this and it worked fabulously.Unfortunately I got injured and need to start over but I've seen it work multiple times.Where juicers fuck up is training for volume too early so they look blobby.
>>77249125Damn, here I thought I was the only one who saw things like this. People are insufferable man. I've never been able to see if people are really different elsewhere.
>>77250049That's not esoteric at all in 2026That's daily weather news report tier in terms of obscurity
>>77250451Not elsewhere but in general you want to look for people that are sensitive and not willing to enter the rat race not because they are cowards or gave up but out of moral character.The problem is, these kinds of people are usually downtrodden and beat down themselves as well, so unless you want to be some messianic Jesus figure saving drug addicts and angry poor people your out of luck.Basically, these people got filtered a long time ago. It's why society is so soulless and can't be revived, at least I believe so.
>>77250191I looked it up and all I can find is 50 year old women saying it helped them with their Lyme disease symptoms. I wonder if it's beneficial outside of that, just for normal people, in terms of cognitive benefits.
>>77248662Any exercise that has you wear a belt (required or not) is terrible for you and is a guaranteed way to fuck yourself up. Yes, squats and deadlifts are particularly bad for you.>inb4 but doctors sayVax status?Remember that Luigi (who was very /fit/) is where he is today because deadlifts fucked up his lower back. You want a better lower body? Stair machine until exhaustion.
>>77251740Tf is this nonsense, your just one unintuitive mofo if you can't deadlift without problems.>Muh it will catch up to youno
