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How capable can a woman ever feasibly be in a fight against a man? Even if she's more experienced and capable as a fighter or martial artist whatever, going up physically against even an average sized man would probably end her right? I'm not trying to be sexist but I genuinely don't think they would have a chance

I'd appreciate any input about female physical limitations and capabilities.
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>>77250193
You're wrong. Just look up pro woman fighters against men. If they can initiate a hold, it's game over for the guy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf6SGfLs9cY
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>>77250193
Equal Training same age the woman loses.
Trained woman vs untrained man is way more close. Women are significantly weaker but you don't appreciate how unfit the average person is.
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>>77250193
Depends on the weight class. Fractionally denser muscles, bones and longer limbs wont be gamechangers against someone who actually knows how to use those advantages effectively
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>>77250199
>Just be a professional fighter to be able to beat untrained males queen.
Lol, lmao.
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>>77250193
Women have a lower floor and a lower ceiling than a man for strength, but a woman with significantly more training than a man can be stronger. But if the man ever starts training he will surpass her.
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>>77250193
A trained woman has a chance against a man through grappling if the man is untrained in dealing with it and underestimates her capabilities. She can also be stronger than the average man if she's blasting roids. That said, a big part of fighting that is often overlooked is mindset, and there are major differences between men and women in this area as well. The average woman doesn't have the aggression and inhibition low enough to fully commit to an actual, do or die kind of fight.
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>>77250193
I think leg day is fairly under-rated for stability in combat sports. Like Megan Thee Stallion could probably beat Clavicular after knocking him over. But avg untrained foid vs. moid, sure moid wins by a bit.
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>>77250327
That's not the only variable, women again have a lower floor and ceiling in terms of height and frame but what about a 6' amazon versus a 5' 4" guy?

Even at the same BMI, she's going to have eight inches and like forty pounds on him.

Generalizations are possible here but every individual is different and every fight is different. Besides, it's 2026, getting into a hand to hand fight with no weapons is for chumps.
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>>77250193
>How capable can a woman ever feasibly be in a fight against a man?
Depends on how much you're willing to stack the deck, and it better be a very considerable amount if you want positive results.
You can easily set up a situation where a woman may win against a man, but any "even" matchup is going to end up with the man's victory.
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>>77250379
>but what about my edge case
Well, even with height/weight disadvantage your amazonian has
1) lower muscle/fat ratio
2) lower bone density
3) slower reaction times
4) lower grip strength
5) less experience fighting (most likely) less exp. roughousing (v likely)
>but every individual is different and every fight is different
Women say shit like this and forget that 90% of men have a higher grip strength than the top 20% of women, it's not really a contest.
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>>77250379
The average 5'4 guy would mop the floor with a the average woman of any size. You think having even a foot over the guy is going to negate 300k years of evolution?
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>>77250193
When I first started BJJ, in my first month I sparred against a few females that were purple belts. I'm a fairly strong guy and about 200 lbs (my SBD total was in the 1400s back then), the women were around 170-180 also decently muscular.

They did not have the technique despite training for years to submit me due to our strength difference. However, when I sparred against the white belt/blue belt dudes who had vastly less experience, they smoked the fuck out of me and my strength wasn't nearly as effective.

Take that as you will
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>>77250379
>Fighting is bad mmmhmkay
>Sweaty creepcel femdom fantasies
Zoomer spotted
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>>77250193
men with pregnancy levels of estrogen can hit bench press numbers that take women years to hit in just a few gym seshs.
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>>77250678
>bench press numbers equals to fighting ability
your average /fit/tard, everyone
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>>77250682
nigger what the fuck do you think is going to win in a fight. rep number or weight number.
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>>77250685
>replies with bench press numbers vs. bench press numbers
kek
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>>77250689
if its not about weight lifted... what possibly could be the factor you want to hear for a fight?
by your logic you should just ask who wins in a gun fight...
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>>77250694
m8 the OP is clearly talking about strength vs. technique. e.g., does that strength matter if they can use your own size against you to judo throw you and then put you in a choke or armbar
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>>77250704
raw number will win. do you think a body builder will win vs a strong man who "looks" slimmer?
oh no some skinny fat dad can grow more facial hair than me... my punch must be weaker because my facial features look less masculine...

to answer, no? this is why the ufc has autistic weight and height divisions and bullshit.
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>>77250379
>what if we called the man a woman and a woman a man and pitted them against each other
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>>77250713
>this is why the ufc has autistic weight and height divisions and bullshit.
it is assumed both participants are skilled fighters, thats why theyre matched by weight
OP scenario doesnt have that kind of situation
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>>77250726
ok ill answer it like that then.
if the guy hates women, he wins.
if i was fighting a woman, id probably be playful about it out of a novelty of masochism.
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>>77250193
>How capable can a woman ever feasibly be in a fight against a man?
In American, she can win. American emn are super weak for soe reason, they often lose against women, probably because Americans are mostly incredibly unfit and break their arms doing push ups.

Everywhere else? No chance. A world class elite woman can be happy if she routinely beats boys. It's the "secret training" of some Judo medalists, for example, to randori against boys and very rarely, men. As soon as she can start beating the boys, she's practically guaranteed a medal. Beating men is still impossible at that level. There was also the case of a female Judo champion Margaux Pinot trying to kill her coach and boyfriend and she got beaten up pretty harshly, pic related. And let's not forget the Olympic boxing stuff recently.
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>>77250379
>but what about a 6' amazon versus a 5' 4" guy?
They tried that already. The guy wins easily. even kissed her against her consent at the face off lol, that's macho culture.
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>>77250736
the us is a double edged sword. you have no idea the amount of lifters and eating disorder population we have.
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>>77250742
Considering girls routine clean out your boy wrestling tournaments, I have a bit of an idea.
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>>77250752
he says sitting in his flyover country, never having stepped foot in the us.
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>>77250754
Been tot he US a lot fo times, ahve many fun stories to tell. Got threatened with a shotgun for trying to pay with card instead of cash in Nevada, for example. Had to fix a computer in an internet cafe in Montana because evryone else was beign retarded about it. Scared some niggers with my heavy German accent. Alo scared some chubby Native girl who wanted to sell me weed. Also didn't get served in a restaurant in Albuquerque because I am white lmao. And a lot of other things.

Anyway, Americans are all short and weak. Not enarly as fat as people often claim, more like skinnyfat and unfit most of the time.



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