>>77252057
>Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Learned this the hard way today.
Went for coffee with a girl from work, saw a "iced mango cream chai" and was tempted.
Like 360 calories for the smallest size. It tasted great but that could have been 1/4 a pound of ground beef with some low fat cheese instead.

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i got down to 115 pounds but i still don't have any abs. what went wrong?

>0.8 pound water weight already lost
we're so fucking back ketobros

>>77252079
have you tried working out?

cico dont work only keto works

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>down from 287 to 252
>still have high blood pressure, even on meds
>can't take creatine because BP will increase
Life is suffering

>>77252095
Losing weight can lower bp, at 252 you're still incredibly fat. Aim for 12% body fat.

>>77252086
which exercise is scientifically proven with peer reviewed studies and trusted by the experts to increase abs the most?

>>77252057
I am 174lbs. 5'7". I am bulking. I have never been bigger than 180. Im considering letting myself get to 185 for this bulk. Am I gonna get loose skin?

>>77252095
my high bp went back to normal when i got to the lower end of the "overweight" range

>>77252057
I didn't think I've even been to an actual desert.

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>>77252098
idk about science but if you go to the gym, the crunch machine is great.
if not, it might be tricky to get your abs to activate and not get your hip flexors to take over.
i personally like deadbugs. they're hard to fuck up.
suck in your femoid tummy and do them very slowly. hold dumbbells if you find them too easy.
get an ab roller if this exercise is too easy.
planks with hands as far up front as you can with push ups that way are also great.

>>77252098
crunches. you should be doing statics too though

I think I am not going to weigh myself for a long time. I'll weigh what I weigh. What matters is I keep getting stronger, more muscular, leaner and train better while eating the macros I should and sleep. The results will absolutely come with supplements I am on, nutrition, training and rest.

The weight is irrelevant. It will keep dropping on its own by me doing things right and thinking about the numbers only fucks with my head. Once I drop a lot and can see a big difference in which I look lean it'll be worth weighing in. In a year doing this if I weigh 200, 195 now or 206 will be irrelevant in the long run.

>>77252115
>>77252116
thanks. hopefully i will get abs in a month

>>77252102
manletbro, bulking is a meme. it's for frauders and really serious lifters.
you're supposed to go on a recomp forever.

Will I eventually lose the "free" calf definition being a giga fat gives you?

>30 off balance squats per leg
>bodyweight squats to failure
>do fucking 70 of them before finally form breaks significantly
>get a sip of water scroll for a few mins
>do another 5 squats
>feels almost normal again
I think this is my wakeup call to finally get a gym membership this feels like hell and it also feels like its doing nothing

>>77252125
>off balance squats
wtf are those? pistol squats?
>I think this is my wakeup call to finally get a gym membership
you can get adjustable dumbbells and do split squats with them.

>>77252123
no, i kept my big thighs even when i reached anorexic mode

>>77252130
>wtf are those? pistol squats?
it leads up to pistol squats you rest your foot on the ground. it feels like a meme but it is harder than close squats. I'm using some progression chart to get to pistol squats.

and I am training core too I didn't forget the hip flexor.

>>77252133
Fuck, really?
I'm gonna look so weirdly proportioned...

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>>77252057
Why would anyone eat carbs?

>snake diet update
>day 14
SW: 240
CW: 219
Waist starting: 45 inches
Waist current: 40 inches

who woulda thunk not eating would make you lose weight

>>77252136
they are tasty
and also very hard to avoid

>>77252136
why are you bullying anons?
you do know there is at least one anon who likes to shitpost with images from rabdom anon and off of the internet, right?

>>77252135
well, i should say that it's probably just my genetics. everyone has a different region of fat that is stubborn

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Should I switch from alcoholism to cocaine addiction? I heard it does wonders for one's figure.

>>77252122
>you're supposed to go on a recomp forever.
Lol fell for that an spun wheels for years.

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>>77252161
Too expensive, try methamphetamine

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>>77252161
i don't think so

fat loss was going good for a while bros but lately I hit a stop and I don't know why. I'm losing weight still but the fat layer seems the same and I'm exercising and dieting harder than before. scale's been stuck on 167 for a damn week and theres a thick rubbery layer of fat over my gut that wont go away.

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>>77252136
>Why would anyone eat?

>>77252164
you're supposed to lift really hard and maximize proteins

>>77252095
Whats your bp. I lost 100lbs and still like 140/70 or something like that. I am pretty active, maybe its the coffee, or just how anxious I get when I get to the doctors.

>>77252115
Might try this. I do reverse crunches sometimes laying on my back, not so much situps.

>>77252135
skip leg day for a few years

>>77252137
>snake diet
I used to know what this was, but hes changed his mind so many times now on what the best way to lose weight is. He's started popping back up in my youtubes again with some new diet.

>>77252246
I think I fail here. I go to the gym, but my joints feel cooked if I try lift heavy. I just lift at a safe weight that feels nice on my muscles. At this point I feel anything is better than nothing. Its probably more a fatloss workout rather than a muscle building workout.

>>77252057
How do I stop breathing out of my mouth like a fag?
Ever since I started dieting I've been going on weekend day hikes but I'm a couch potato so it doesn't take long for the exertion to make normal breathing painful and I pant and heave like a dog half the way up. I could go at a slower pace obviously but that seems like a big loss in cardio.

>>77252095
>can't take creatine because BP will increase
i don't think that's a thing breh

>>77252261
Lifting as close to failure as possible is how you build muscle, doesn't mean lift heavy it means lift till you cant. Heavy weight just makes it easier to hit failure, multiple sets brings you closer to true failure. Closer you get to failure, more muscle growth you get.

>>77252269
that's normal for all cardio of course being able to breathe through your nose is a flex and optimal for as long as you can do it but if you're going up in intensity or fatigue you're gonna mouthbreathe because you need more oxygen.

>>77252261
>>77252272
by "close to failure" I mean true failure. Like the muscle gives out. You should never be leaving reps on the table. As long as you can maintain good form bang those out.

>>77252275
Should I be trying to breathe through my nose to develop better breathing or does it not matter?

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211.8 pounds. 5 pounds down in a day but just cause of my iconic monthly 36 hour fast. I find one 36 hr fast monthly ideal since my body doesnt get used to it and I see a bigger scale drop at least for the day. Im going to make it

How much weight could I lose in 1 week?

>>77252272
Going to failure is more efficient but not necessarily required to build muscle. For example, guys that work at a tire shop aren't really pushing to failure, but the volume over time is still making them bigger.

>>77252261
easy substitutes to lifting heavier are shorter rest times and drop sets
>lift until failure
>lower the weight
>lift until failure
>lower the weight
>lift until failure
>...
>last set is doing reps without any weights at all because your muscles can't handle it

>>77252289
lots

>>77252289
If you dont eat all week and assuming 2200 calories bmr, at least 4.4 pounds.

>>77252257
I'm just following the original one.
>start 48hr fast w/ electrolyte water (snake juice)
>eat clean protein as a meal
>eg bone broth, 8-10oz new york strip / ribeye, two eggs
>fast for 72hrs, drinking snake juice
>refeed
>repeat until desired weight achieved
>perform some sort of light cardio, I've been doing 12% incline 3mph 1 hour walks every day

Been pretty easy, honestly. After the first 72 I just haven't been hungry.

>>77252289
dry fast on meth and sleep in the snow after sprinting for 16 hours

>>77252289
you can lose 3-5 pounds of water weight in a week if you eliminate carbs

Anyone get on metformin? I want to try that instead of injections.

>>77252302
Do you poop?

>gf has stopped having sex with me as much since putting the weight back on
if this isnt the motivation i need, idk what is

>>77252326
The fear of death?

>>77252335
im not morbidly obese or anything so not a worry of mine

>>77252281
you should be controlling your breathe and using it as a way to gauge how exhausted you are or if you're pushing too hard, as for developing nose breathing it doesn't really matter but you should be doing it for as long as you can into your exercise

>>77252289
Depends on water cut, desu. Real fat loss is different than scale delta.

>>77252323
sometimes

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>tuna and greek yogurt dinner again

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so can someone help me understand something?

i picked up one of these supposedly keto friendly ice creams. got it and read the label and its still got like 20g of carbs per serving, or like 50 for a small container about the size of a soda can. wouldnt that completely blow past the alloted carbs per day?

it says something about net carbs and subtracting the sugar alchohols but i dont really understand what that means. can anyone attest is this stuff actually keto safe with its net neutral carbs or whatever? or is it just fasle advertising and it will still blow up your keto diet?

i dont want to drop keto, its been working really well for me, i've lost 25lbs of fat so far in about a month. but my nephews birthday is coming up and it would be nice to have a treat i can actually eat when the rest of the family is having cake and icecream. i dont want to lose ketosis or whatever because i have a heart condition and it made me pretty sick getting into it, and i'd rather not have to go through that again just for a treat.

>>77252393
keto ice cream is absolutely terrible you wouldn't be missing out on much. coconut oil makes the ice cream block dense as a brick and you almost gotta shave ice cream off it with your spoon, which quickly melts into a thin liquid. I was never on keto but my parents were some 10 years ago and I tried the icecream, unbelievably mid.

Around 20 Kilos to go
I can do that in 5 months

>>77252393
It's probably using sugar alcohols which you don't count as net carbs

>>77252399
Nm, you mentioned that. Just take the total carb count and subtract the grams of sugar alcohols. That's the net carbs. Also subtract the gram of fiber if that's in there

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>>77252400
>>77252399
okay so if the carbs are 20, but 19 of that is fiber and sugar alchohols (thats about what it says on the nutrition label) then it wont interfere with ketosis?

pic related is what i got

>>77252393
I don't understand the appeal of fake ice cream.

>>77252405
Correct that would only be 1g of net carbs.
and your ice cream only has 5g net carbs. If you're under 20g net carbs for the day there's basically no way you're out of ketosis. You can generally get away with 40g. It varies tho. The more adapted you are to ketosis come of the higher you can go, especially if you also intermittent fast . Your system will clean out those carbs quickly and revert to ketones for energy very quickly

>>77252405
Goyslop, don't eat that shit. There is evidence that despite it being low carb, the sweeteners used in those kinds of products can still cause an insulin response. Best to stick to whole foods, especially if you're going to do keto

>>77252269
That's normal but one thing you can do to help regulate your breathing in general while doing cardio is 'in through the nose, out through the mouth'

>>77252415
>Goyslop
100% goyslop. Anything with artificial sweeteners is gay.

>>77252393
It depends who you ask. Dr Eric Westman says to count total carbs not net carbs. He calls it "prescription strength keto". He is a doctor who actually treats patients. Most internet personalities don't treat patients.

>>77252440
When a diet is so bad for you that you need to add "look, this one doctor who lives from shilling it say it's actually good" to shill it.

I've seen countless times people say "you can totally build muscle while losing weight bro!" How many of you have actually done it? I've never once in all my yo-yo dieting cycles where I've lost anywhere from 50-100 lbs have I ever ended up with more muscle than I had when I started. No amount of lifting or protein did anything for me. Maybe it's just the low test but I don't have any observable symptoms for it so I doubt it's that. I just think people are full of shit and you need to be in a caloric surplus to build muscle which contradicts the goal of weight loss.

>>77252499
>How many of you have actually done it?
It's not even hard, it's just a very slow process.

>>77252499
i've done it on two separate occasions but i'm not saying i ended up with substantial muscle either time. just that my starting point at each round of weight loss was having about as little muscle as a person could have and i ended up with a more average amount of muscle by the end by picking up lifting together with the dieting. also have clinically low t so that shouldn't be a hard barrier. if you're already trained then it's probably quite hard to build more muscle while losing weight but you 100% really do not need a caloric surplus for beginner gains.

>>77252499
who cares about this? your number one priority should be losing fat. whatever muscle you atrophy will not be significant compared to the health benefits of giving your heart a break from pushing blood through 400 pounds of clogged arteries

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>>77250663
999 yet again!

>>77252563
How does that even work? different foods have different calorie ratios

>>77252566
Its just an exercise bike, it has a calories mode and it rolls over after it hits 999 which is just my daily self imposed exercise goal, my heart rate monitor says I burned 877calories, who knows how accurate either of them are, if at all, but its better than doing nothing so I'm going to try to do it everyday.

>>77252499
I've done it. It's not linear, tho. And I was never obese, just overweight.

I dropped from 146kg to 127kg without focusing on it. Physical job the main factor. Then from 127kg to 115kg when I started training at home and watching what I'm eating. From 115kg to 103kg (now) in two phases while hitting the gym + cardio. First 3-6 times gym and 3-5 cardio sessions per week average, now 6.5 gym and 5 times 2.5fold cardios per week. Diet optimized every 30 days or so, the environment/season plays a huge role as well.

>>77252057
why all the sloppa OPs recently?

>>77252570
oh i thought it was a food scale for some reason. i feel really dumb now,
good work though anon

>>77252575
>I was never obese
>I dropped from 146kg
You'd need to be 221 cm tall for this to happen

>>77252499
just lose the fat and do starting strength

My first calories everyday are around 2-400 calories I have either after midnight before or a bit after 11 and I count towards the next day. Then I eat some stuff in the morning that is small then I go to the gym

>>77252575
>I was never obese, just overweight
>146kg
>just overweight
Anon, I... Unless your height is like 230cm, you were by all accounts and numbers morbidly obese. You've absolutely lost the plot if you think you were anything but that. Overweight is when you put on a little chub but my man here was turning into Jabba The Hut.

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good news, i finally figured out how to leave skelemode hell. i started blending brownies and whipping cream into my coffee and gained 10 pounds in a month. give me some more of your fatty tips

>>77252655
anon this is a fat loss thread not a fat gain thread

>>77252660
the fat gainer has a lot to learn from the fat loser

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had maccas for the first time in over 6 months
i was surprised at how not tasty it was, or much less than i remembered
and fries had texture, but when biting them and compacting them you could tell they were full of oil
very interesting. i don't have desire to eat it again, so i suppose that will just be knocked off my, "trash food i like sometimes" list.

>>77252673
i always think "this was not worth consuming" each time i try an old junk food i haven't ate in years

I'm 80lbs down fellow fatsos
20lbs to ideal weight
WAGMI :)

>>77252682
right? it's neat. nice to know you've grown past it

>>77252683
that's awesome! congratulations anon, keep it up!

>>77252581
I dont know where people generate the usual nun pics so ive been using Gemini.

>>77252710
>generate the usual
anon... it's literally an artist's works from xitter...

I lost 13 kgs relatively fast since February but now im stuck on this plateau and I dont know what to do

>>77252713
Oh, they seemed so specific to /fat/ with the anime nuns focused on weight loss and the constant chicken and broccoli meme I just assumed someone was generating them.

>>77252563
Based.
I do 36 minutes on the treadmill and an hour on a recumbent bike to get 500 calories on each. How long does your bike take to reach 1000?

>>77252710
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/22645

>>77252708
thanks anon, you too!

>>77252724
Varied widely based on intensity, the other day I was done in like 1h30m, today almost took 4h because my legs we're still sore.

>>77252720
I'm kinda surprised you can't tell the difference. May I ask how old you are?

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>>77252710
>this is nu-/fat/

>>77252719
just stick with it, don't falter or stray off your path. keep pushing and you'll start dropping again. i had a plateau that lasted almost 3 weeks then started dropping down again.
>>77252733
thanks bro

>wake up
>still fat
Something has to be done about this

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>>77252057
Holy mother of...

Anon, you flatter me, but I'm not the MC of this thread. If you're going to make the next one then please, for the love of god, use one of the nun duck comics from this Twitter account:

https://x.com/hyxpk

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Finally stopped myself from buying soda every weekend for the first time in almost 2 years.
Small steps I guess.

>>77252788
Thats good

>>77252788
good job! all the little habits stacking up will help you greatly in the long run

>>77252799
>>77252803
Thanks, I've been overall trying to be in deficit and eating way way less and gone down 13lbs in little over 3 weeks.
Bit worried how I'm gonna react when I see it slow down soon.

>>77252582
kek i thought it was a food scale as well

>>77252734
Jesus. 4 hours on the bike is a long time. Do you play video games or something to pass the time?

>>77252840
Of course, got it set up in my living room, playing games, watching shit, chatting with family, I can't imagine doing that shit with nothing to entertain myself.

>>77252740
23

Do you include any metabolic conditioning after you lift?

>>77252870
huh that's really surprising/interesting to me
i assumed only older folks were ai blind
take care anon and ty for answering my question

Fatty Contest
bigdookie
311lbs
6'3"

i wish a form of contact was tied to the fatty contest

>>77252929
Post body

>>77252935
? why

>>77252939
Yeah I thought so. Fat shit.

>>77252947
what about my post insinuated other wise?

>>77252929
wdym?

>>77252958
think he means something like an email or whatever to contact the person?

>>77252960
yeah that, or like their discord or something

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>>77252499
The reason you are yo-yo dieting is because you are doing CICO.

The reason you lose muscle is because you are doing CICO.

Eating carbs blocks fat burning. When fat burning is blocked and you reduce food intake you lose muscle.

>>77252960
>>77252964
I'm identifiable here and signed up for a thing. I'm not giving some random sweat fuck on /fit/my contact info. I'm here and I said I'm going to lose weight, that's all he needs. I do what I say I'm going to do

>>77252499
depends on how much muscle you had when you started and what are your expectations.
if you had lots of muscle, of course you will lose a portion of them because being lean and muscly like a moviestar is roids territory.
the natty limit is pretty low. especially if you don't take supplements.
that Shawn Baker dude the ketoanon keeps posting is so obviously on roids that i wonder if ketoanon is shitposting or not. you will never ever have as much muscle as him wothout roids no matter how much you lift or supplement.

>>77252499
i had 0 muscle and gained muscle

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>>77252975
geez can a guy not want some /fatloss/ friends
ur acting like ur going to get doxxed

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>>77252977
Shawn Baker is lifetime natty. You can tell he is natty because of things like the shape of his shoulders and his body fat percentage.

Also vegans won't pay for him to get drug tested because they know it would verify he is natty.

>>77252655
have you tried lifting really hard and eating lots of chicken with a side of your favorite carbs?

>>77252987
>carbs
Do you want him to gain muscle or fat

>>77252982
I'll be your friend any time, my bad if i read the intent wrong. Not interested in posting my contacts for this contest though. If there's a discord or sumn, I'll consider joining

>>77252983
>not flexing as hard
>comparing him to a shoulders genetic freak
>thinking roids = automatically super lean and doesn't require dieting
>thinking someone will pay him money to do a totally legit test
>thinking someone will pay the kind of money to lock him up in a metabolic ward and get properly tested. if he even agrees to it
in other news, why aren't (you) nowhere nearly as big as him if he was totally natty at fucking 59?
>>77252991
some people naturally burn more energy so giving him chickens only might not be a foolproof recipe.

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>>77253004
>but doctor we had to eat carbs for energy
>where else would our bodies get energy?

>>77253008
he needs to eat something not very satiating to make sure he gets enough protein.
giving him only chicken will satiate him.and he'll end up the same.

>>77252788
make sure to get diet soda when you get the urge for some.
t. quit soda years ago but still sometimes get the urge

I wish I could just eyeball this shit but that's how I got here

>>77253048
you can eyeball calories if you stick to meats, baked potatoes and broccoli. maybe rice too.

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>>77252586
>>77252643
The 146kg was temporary. I was filled with fluid, carbs, shit and faggotry. Un-active sedentary mass of melancholy. That weight would've taken a lot to maintain. The year lasting binge of alcohol & high fat and carbs. I remember thinking at ~137kg how the 9kg higher weight just felt like a bloated version of me at that time.

The body is a miraclous machine with many safeguards. I simply couldn't continue if I wanted to keep on living. I don't have pictures of me in my highest weight, but here's a comparison related to recomp.

>>77253096
You look like shit

>>77252057
How the fuck do I need at less
I can’t
I tried drinking water, I have like 3 litres a day
I tried eating low veggies and I just have a bowl of mixed veggies

I still want to eat

What the fuck is wrong with me??????

Please help

I’m just going to chug more water until it hurts

>>77253096
you don't shave your pits?
don't you sweat?
not to be a dick but you really need to work on your arms and middle and i assume rear delts as well.

when do I start noticing a reduction in my belly fat? I'm down around 23lbs from 225 and I've noticed some changes around my face and appendages but my belly still seems as fat as it's always been.

>>77253173
i dropped 23 pounds from 200 and still don't have any belly changes.
i'm 5'7"

>>77253175
Have you been eating enough protein? You might be losing significant muscle

>>77253173
>>77253175
Start measuring your waists. You guys are just a bad impartial judges.

Fatty Contest
PortuFat
88.2kg

>>77253180
no. i'm averaging 50-60g of protein.
>>77253181
i am measuring my waist at the belly. but maybe bloating gets in the way idk.

>>77253189
>not eating 200g of protein a day
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Started at 195, now at 133. Top picture was at ~135 kg two months ago, bottom is right now.

I feel the weight is staying the same, but I am getting compliments, and okay i can see some face gains and some veins.

Am I hallucinating?

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>>77253048
Your body will tell you when you've eaten enough as long as you don't eat carbs.

>>77253191
i'm a poor thirdie
>>77253197
>different angle
>closer to the mirror
try again

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>>77253203
now?

My goal is 6 foot 186%.

Started at 241 around November. Became very serious about lifting part around mid March. This will still take a while but going to keep going week by week.

>>77253197
>>77253212
>Top picture was at ~135 kg two months ago, bottom is right now
am i missing something? weren't you supposed to recreate the top pic?
put them in the same image before and after i can't tell otherwise

Question for you guys. I am now 211 pounds and 28% bodyfat. I was 283 last year and I didnt take the proper measurements but probably like 40% bodyfat.

According to calculations, if I go to 180 lbs I should be 15%ish bodyfat. Does that sound right. I lost like 70 pounds and only lost 12% bodyfat. Losting another 31 shouldn't have me lose 13% right? I thought I would be a lot lower bodyfat than 28% now cause losing % bldyfat only gets harder the smaller you get?

Fatty Contest
LeanAndStrong
82.2kg

Up 1kg. Went back to lifting and aiming for a slight deficit, I'll just pretend most of this is water retention on the muscles.

>>77253248
Missing a crucial piece of information: your height.

>>77253258
177cm. 5 ft 9 and a half. That was used in the measurement. Current waist at bellybutton is 41in and neck is 16in

>>77253248
depends on many things but powerlifters are fat because it is extremely hard to have a lot of lean muscles and it's a roid tell.
you will lose muscle/water alongside your fat so a percent calculation is not easy.
>>77253264
i think the anon who posted shredded body at 190 pounds was 6'1". maybe 6'0" can't remember clearly.
you might make it if you lift really hard.

I appear to have put on 6lb since yesterday. dafuq?

>>77253276
you appear to have ate a shitton of carbs and/or salt since yesterday

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>>77253125
If you quit eating carbs you will stop being hungry.

>>77253276
Ok

>>77253284
Nope, I ate pork and went the gym

>>77253125
>I just have a bowl of mixed veggies
satiation and being full are different.
veggies make you feel full but you can still be very hungry.
i recommend this >>77253286 if you can actually stick to it.
if not, oven baked potatoes are great for making you very satiated for the amount of calories they have.
experiment with different diets and do what works for you.
note that cutting carbs takes about 3-5 days to take full effect so you might want to try baked potatoes first.

>>77253271
I see. I also just started creatine last month. Whatever. I only have 31 pounds to 180. Ill see then. 171 pounds is the end of my "healthy" range for bmi. So its probably not that far off then

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Ate 5k calories and plan on finishing at least 1k more today. A week worth of effort gone in a single day.

>>77253335
just don't eat the 1k and try diets that allow you to stick to your plan.
gorge on baked potatoes and meat if you have to

>>77253335
Good job anon keep it up

just ate 240g of Greek yoghurt
fuck you nigger

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>>77253335

Anyone else kinda continuously run into conflict with family for eating less / staying on a strict diet? It’s kind of tiresome making the diet harder than it is. Wish we didn’t live in the era where it’s hard as fuck to move out and still have a dime to my name