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If someone’s skinnyfat and trying to get muscular, is it possible to both cut fat and put on muscle simultaneously by working out while eating healthy?
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>>77255846
Sure is, you can even lose weight and get stronger at the same time. It won't be as fast as bulking, and if you are already strong it's not as easy. But if you are untrained and a healthy weight, recomp is easily doable. Just get enough protein and don't accidentally eat too much, which can be hard, I found starting to work out gave me a big appetite.
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>>77255846
Fat chunk
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>>77255862
>Sure is, you can even lose weight and get stronger at the same time
Seriously? I thought to put on muscle you basically had to be eating at a calorie surplus regardless of how much protein you had. So your body can put on muscle with enough protein even at a deficit?
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>>77255863
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yes you can gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.
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>>77255872
Yes. Muscle comes as an adaptation to mechanichal stress. If youre literally starving your body wont have as much resources to rebuild muscles but it is very possible to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. Assuming you are actually skinnyfat and not fat your weight likely wont change much, but your ffmi will change as you work out and eat healthy
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>>77255872
getting stronger doesn't necessarily mean getting more muscle mass. look at the third worlders carrying sulfur out of the mines. they look like skeletons, but they are strong
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>>77255846
>>77255879
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>>77255887
he specifically said gaining muscle mass retard
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>>77255884
>>77255887
So in terms of overall calories, should I eat at a slight surplus, slight deficit, or at maintenance and just eat way cleaner with enough protein?
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>>77255887
>third worlders
>but they are strong
>skeletons
>but they are strong
you watch too many movies
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>>77255896
>>Sure is, you can even lose weight and get stronger at the same time
>Seriously?
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>>77255846
read the sticky.
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>>77255846
Any other whyte boys lifting for Latinas on /fit/? Will this be YOUR White Boy Summer?
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>>77255905
that wasnt the guy you replied to
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>>77255903
Cleaner with plenty of protien. A bit below maintenence should be perfect
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>>77255931
Thanks anon!
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>>77255846
Imagine how her big fat brown pussy looks spread. Nice dark labia and a pink urethra.
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>>77255949
I have never seen a vagina
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>>77255927
who did i reply to then?
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>>77256013
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>>77255887
>getting stronger doesn't necessarily mean getting more muscle mass
Unfortunetly this is true. I finally managed to 1pl8 ohp for reps and benching 2pl8 for reps and somehow i look smaller despite getting stronger and eating more. I'm more stressed from work and i don't chase pump like the old days because i only do two hard sets but still theres not excuse to why i'm the same weight after 2 years with slightly more fat while getting stronger. Something is very off. Any help
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>>77256060
Nothing is off. Strength has a skill component and is not just a function of muscle mass. Neurologically, you get better at motor unit recruitment and "firing" your muscles, and also get more used to the form overtime
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Fasted cardio in the morning before breakfast combined with a normal weight training routine
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>>77255863
A Latina without a little bit of chunk is like an angel without its wings
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>>77255924
Every latina is fucked in the head. Have fun for a little bit but nothing more.
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>>77256387
Latinas as crazy but im starting to think westernized asian women are crazier. They throw out false accusations like crazy
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>>77256387
>Every latina is fucked in the head
That just means you aren't fucking her hard enough. Only by sating a Latina's horniness can you bring her to sanity
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>>77255846
>>77255879
sexo
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>>77255846
Body recomp is a meme. Focus on getting lean first, then eat lots of protein and food and lift.
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>>77256619
Why is it always Latina feet? Or Latina booties? Or Latina boobies? Why is it never Latina personalities? Or Latina smiles?
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>>77256421
>They throw out false accusations like crazy
Feel like this might be a little bit of a self-tattle here
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>>77256639
Xochi has it all.
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>>77255949
Like a bag of salty milk & coins.
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>>77256771
>Xochi has it all.
Except tits or ass or an attractive face or good movies or...
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>>77256781
sweetie, Tubi is a very successful service.
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>lusts for latinas
>posts zoomer mudbutts
/fit/izens are mentally broken
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>>77256785
She could fix me.
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>>77256785
What the hell is a mudbutt?
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>>77256787
What's wrong with you that needs to be fixed?
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>>77255924
Every single problem in my life would be instantly fixed by a loving Latina gf
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>>77255846
qt Latina cashier at Target specifically came over to me in the self-checkout to ask if I'd her to put my basket away, do you think she was into me bros?
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>>77256619
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>>77256796
no latinx zoomer gf
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>>77256800
i like how the camera man didn't film the ball correctly because he didn't think she would hit it
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>>77256787
>>77256791
Seek help. Or don't. Idc
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>>77255924
Everything i do is for Latinas.
I love them so much bros, its unreal
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>>77255904
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>>77256060
Increase your rep ranges
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>>77256825
you just look shady as fuck and she thought that you might be shoplifting
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>>77256800
your problems would still be there. But the steamy, sweaty, bed shaking sex will make up for it
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>>77256800
Tits gotta be rock hard to pull of that "shirt" but I still love it.
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>>77257111
Based wimps. Bodybuilders btfo.
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>>77255846
She looks better chunky.
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>>77257306
She looks better chunky for now.
>ftfy
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>>77257315
Latinas all wall hard anyway so the ephemerality of her looks are a given.
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>>77255846
Absolutely. Being a complete beginner you can lose fat and build up muscles simultaneously on a calorie deficit. Just up your protein intake and don't forget fats, so your hormones don't drop down
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>>77255846
sexo
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Strangth doesn't matter when it's all about looks (face, hair, frame, height, <15% bf).
Pic related doing 10 pullups will mog any 20%+BF powershitter DLing 4+pl8 for reps any and every time.
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>>77255846
Generally, no it is not
The vast majority of people who claim to have done it were just seeing increased definition of muscle they already had, not new muscle growth
If you're advanced strength and over an ffmi of 15, you likely *can* recomp (what you're talking about) but it's still extremely difficult

Cut/bulk cycles work for everyone who's not retarded
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>>77257486
>Cut/bulk cycles work for everyone who's not retarded
You're putting on fat and adding fat cells to your body that you're just later "cutting" off. It's ineffective and stupid and the fat makes you look unattractive as fuck. In summation, silence, lardass.
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>>77255846
>I'm gonna recomp
And this is the reason why every dyel who goes to the gym everyday still looks the same 2 years later.
But by all means recomp away, Champ.
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>>77255846
Slightly chubby Latinas are peak
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>>77255846
yes you can, anyone saying otherwise is a literal brainlet >>77257486
Many lards tend to see inital weightloss phsyically and on the scales as well as strength gains when they workout, some will then become disheartened when they no longer see as much weightloss if any but still see progress for how they look and strength gains, this just means they're building muscle almost as quick as they lose fat, all that is needed then is to burn more calories/reduce intake slightly and you'll continue down the route of losing fat while you build muslce
Anons who think it's not possible need to rope
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>>77257486
body recomp just takes longer than a normal bulk/cut cycle which is why people hate it. I've started body recomping cause I've been lazy since maybe a full year and just NOW seeing noticeable tangible differences. My abs are very slowly starting to have definition and I haven't really dipped hard on my strength at all. It's just getting harder to gain more strength.
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>>77255846
How do I get a Latina to become my girlfriend?
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>>77257760
>body recomp just takes longer than a normal bulk/cut cycle which is why people hate it
I wonder if this is actually true or if bulk/cut communicates progress more clearly so it's more encouraging. I suppose it hinges on how aggressively you're willing to cut.
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>>77257111
That study is actually kinda interesting
>A gram of bodybuilders' muscle is less powerful than the same amount of tissue from someone who did not weight train, tests show
WORSE than dyels. Hypertrophy training gives you lots of muscles that suck at producing force lol. They're still stronger so who cares.
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>>77257801
It's not really interesting at all. No shit, muscles that have been deliberately trained for size won't be optimized for force production. No fucking shit.
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>>77257111
>Bodybuilder are only strong because they have so much muscle mass, research suggests
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>>77257723
She's certainly annoying as fuck but this is one of the hottest women I've ever seen
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>>77255846
Yes. I lost 15kg and increased my lifts, my biceps are biggest in particular but every muscle has grown. Works if you've never worked out though, not sure about the effectiveness if you were a high school jock.
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>>77255846
>>77257723
Why is her vagina so puffy?
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>>77257854
because she's in heat
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>>77255846
How do i cope with the fact that i'll never be able to have sex with a woman like this
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>>77257854
She's entering torta territory
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>>77255879
I can't stand females but I can't help but love them so much
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>>77257986
>How do i cope with the fact that i'll never be able to have sex with a woman like this
Nigga that’s a chubby Mexican, not a Chechen hijabi, there are few women on this earth outside of SEA more attainable than that. Make more than 40k a year and don’t be a wimp and you can have your choice of them.
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this is a pretty controversial topic
currently all AIs advise for it as the best way to achieve it
but real life people say it takes too long or just too hard to accurately pull off

it seems it's one of those things that's possible in theory but not practical
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>>77258042
>Just be her provider betabuxx and you'll get a chance to be her roommate whom she gives pity handjobs to or het a gold digger prostitute
You're retarded
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>>77258042
i make the equivalent of like 90k in my country. i guess my problem is that im just a wimp then
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>>77258090
Nope you're just unattractive (short, ugly)
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>>77257854
Why isn't yours?
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>>77258110
I don't have a vagina
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Its interesting how MENA girls are for Europeans what latinas are for Americans. I'm a Frenchbro who was raised in Texas and the latinas of my teenage years were basically the same as the arabs now. Same skin color, same looks, same temperament, same troubles, same mind shattering sex.
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>>77258133
Europeans dont have sex, look at your tfr lmao
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>>77258133
>>77258133
Don't Arab girls get murdered by their families for dating whitey though? Latinxs don't do that
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>>77258136
lol no, not the hot ones. Most of them are glad their daughters end up with a white guy with a job, and not just another ghetto rat.
T. knower
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>>77255846
Yes. You lose weight as long as you're in a caloric deficit. You gain muscles as long as you get enough protein. Now, depending on your weight, this might be a very small band, meaning it'd be slow. So slow it'd be faster to first cut and then build up muscle after. But especially if you're just starting out, just eating less and exercising more will result in weight loss and muscle gain.
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>>77258147
Even if the white guy's not willing to convert?
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>>77255846
imo
you can do it
but only in the noob gains phase. your body is so responsive to training when you're in a wholly untrained state that it's practically clamoring to build muscle. noob gains are the closest thing natties get to being on gear
if for example you started as a skelly and bulked for a year straight, then tried to cut, i don't think you could put on muscle while doing it
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>>77256771
ugly feet
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>>77255846
That's called a dad bod.
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>>77258164
I'd like to become a dad through the use of her bod, if you know what I'm saying
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>>77255846
Will Latinas let you touch their boobies if you ask politely enough?
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>>77258171
just be white
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>>77258133
>tfw live in montreal and have access to both
>persians too
>>77258155
Yup
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>>77256771
Elbows too pointy
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>>77257111
>sprinters are only fast because they run at high speed, (((experts))) say
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>>77258133
Everyone loves equatorial cuties
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>>77258122
why dont you
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>>77258245
I had a happy childhood free of psychologically devastating molestation. Leading me to not be a troon, you see
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>>77255846
Great thread
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>>77255846
we love future tortas
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>>77255846
It doesn't really make sense but you will look better in one month if you learn carb timing and minimal vs maximal muscular recovery and how long it lasts for.
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>>77255846
For a short time. Noob gains happen with minimal effort and less than ideal diet/rest. But you will quickly plateau and start the real grind of internediate gains much more quickly than necessary if you refuse to eat to gain.

Honestly bulking and cutting is easy. People make it out to be hard because strength athletes get fat, but those strength athletes get fat because they refuse to accept a decline in any of their numbers. If you've worked up to a point where you're lifting late intermediate/early advanced numbers and eating 4,000+ calories a day just to maintain strength, then you can cut down absurdly quickly by dropping to "only" 3,000 calories a day, as long as you're willing to accept your strength numbers dropping just a bit.

I eat 4,000 calories a day minimum and if I eat any less, my numbers feel it. That amount is just enough to fuel the effort. To properly adapt to new workload, I need more. I'm not fat at all. Barely "overweight" by BMI standards but still angular in the face, 6 pack is always somewhere between vaguely and distinctly visible. I look swole in a shirt, but only in a way that lifters can tell I lift. Non-lifters just think I look built thick like a tree stump.

The point is, at 4,000 calories a day I'm always just a month cut away from being more shredded than Bruce Lee ever was. Every few months I'll dedicate a couple weeks to eating "only" 3,000 calories a day and get to where my waist is thin and my 6 pack is well defined again, and then I start bulking again with minimum strength loss.

If people can't do this, it's because they don't care, they have a pathological food addiction, or they just will not accept losing strength.
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>>77258387
>something's not adding up...
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>>77255872
you already have a stored calorie surplus. you just need the baseline proteins and nutrients coming in every day for building material
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>>77255846
>is it possible to both cut fat and put on muscle simultaneously by working out while eating healthy?
how would I do this as a newbie foid + im latina so maybe that means something to have you anons reply
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>>77258359
How do you know they’re future tortas? Why is it so hard to believe a Latina can remain in shape into her late 20s and 30s?
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>>77257854
mons pubis
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>>77257854
engorged with blood
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>>77255846
Neurons activating
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>>77258720
just look at her mom & female relatives, you noob
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>>77258727
What?
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>>77258019
stop being a faggot for once and you might get girls
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>>77255846
Yes. How fat are you? Basically to get muscular, you need starch/glucose and protein. To lose fat, you need to be in kcal deficit. So you go into a kcal deficit and eat as little fat as you can. You're not building a ton of muscle without roids anyway, like a few hundred grams of dry muscle a week at best (rest of weight is water). You don't need a ton of kcal/prot for that.

>but muh hormones
>but muh essential fats
Starch takes care of thyroid hormones and sex hormones are not really impacted by how much cholesterol you eat, body keeps it at a constant level and just does not absorb excess/makes more from other stuff (assuming you're healthy in that regard). Eat a few eggs/day if you're that worried.

Essential fat are just EPA/DHA (fish/seaweed), nothing else is essential.

Time starch/glucose before/after workout primarily. If you feel like you're dying, up starch. I'm fairly advanced and I'm recomping and setting PRs fine on low fat high starch. My less advanced buddy recomped aggressively in the same manner while still setting PRs.

>>77255872
No.

>>77255903
#1 reason diets fail is lack of adherence. Run a deficit you can survive, mentally. High starch helps here, higher food volume/less palatable.

>>77256060
Lost pump/lost glycogen/got pure CNS gains.

>>77257471
Won't mog anyone if he puts on a shirt. Will look like a stick next to a powershitter.

>>77257801
Bodybuilder muscle holds more water and glycogen so yeah by weight less contractile tissue so weaker.

>>77257808
Muscle fiber is just muscle fiber. There are different types but it's meaningless outside of lab, they all twitch fast enough. All that matters is muscle fiber, motor units and mitochondria density (for endurance).

>>77257853
Works on any level unless you roid. Roiders need way more protein and way more carb if they're blasting so they get all the growth they can.

>>77258067
Only problem is recomp must be way cleaner than hard cut.
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>>77255846
>>77255879
she was literally the hottest girl on the planet for about 2 months until her goblina genes kicked in
now she just can't seem to keep the weight off
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>>77259373
She had white boys globally in the palm of her hand
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>>77256010
It's honestly underwhelming
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>>77256010
It's honestly overwhelming
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>>77259390
>She had white boys globally in the palm of her hand
Until she revealed that she had a boyfriend.

She could've made millions grifting Democrats if she wasn't so dumb.



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