The truly grim blackpill about fitness is that men aspire to look like the guy on the left while women desire to get POUNDED by the guy on the right. Which is why calisthenics and cardio > weightlifting.
>grim>blackpill>pounded>calisthenics
>>77258767>women desire Post tits
>>77258767Its just women's naracism They want to fuck other women but they settle for men because they have dick and money
>>77258767>fuck the girlfriend>but you have to get fucked by the boyfriend>but the girlfriend has a penis
>>77258829>They want to fuck other women but they settle for men because they have dick and moneyThis is the dumbest thing I've read this week. And it's Tuesday.
>>77258829Lesbians can use 12 inch always hard strap-ons that shoot a gallon of fake cum out of a tube if they want. Men are still more likely to be gay even in spite of that. The biggest psyop in western civilization has been the one where men tell other men that women feel no sexual desire to men.
>>77258840>>fuck the girlfriendEh>>but you have to get fucked by the boyfriendGay>>but the girlfriend has a penisNice
>>77258767>exercising to be an object of desire in the female gazeNGMI
>putting THIS much stock into what foids wantyou’re the fucking problem, dickhead
in reality you still need to lift weights to look like the guy on the right especially over 25 or you will just look like every pudgy skinnyfat redditor runner guy
>>77258767post body
>>77258829Yeah cause lesbians are soooo happy and fulfilled rightThe happiest women are getting "pounded" by guys who look like Don Frye
>>77258767I spent my 20s built like the guy on the right and 30s more like the guy on the left and I think I get more attention now, even from teenagers and younger women
>>77258767this is really bad bait, like really bad.
>>77258767They're both tough dudes who were or are in the UFCChase Hooper looks like a little kid but he's a decent fighter. Main weakness is his chin. If he was more durable he would go further
Has there ever been a better peak daddy than don frye??
>>77258767I know this is just bait but imagine thinking for even a second that Don Frye wasn't absolutely drowning in pussy back in his day
I liked Don Frye in Godzilla Final Wars
>>77259172In anus sure but he was an incel otherwise
Only women on birth control with low libido prefer right. Healthy fertile young women will always prefer left
>>77259181Cope, it's the oppositeAll the underage girls fawn over kpop idols
>>77259180>bait used to be good
>>77259183https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/03/study-women-on-birth-control-pills-prefer-less-masculine-men/274464/
>>77259195Oh yes Theatlantic. The most reliable, impartial and undisputable source of information out there. Extremely well versed experts in such topics. Thanks for your valuable input anon
>>77259203NTA but it's just referncing a study you retardsThese threads are funny because it shows all you blackpillers have never been fitIf you actually were, you would have been both lean and skinny, and big and strong, and you would have an actual informed opinion on the matter.The fact that you don't shows you are just unfit pieces of shit who don't exercise. Which of course we all already knew.
>>77258767The sooner you get it in your head that we're no different from birds the sooner you understand why a 25 year old looks like this now. Women literally pick how men develop physically not even joking. If women started liking big burly men again don't be surprised when your kids mog you in 20 years
>>77259207>If you lift a metallic bar with metallic circles on it up and down for +6 months women suddenly become attracted to youKekSunken cost at play. One more heavy circle added to the bar and women will finally start "miring" you bro
>>77259218Bucketcrabs are never welcome here. Lifting is a part of getting fit and women are more attracted to men who are in shape. There's nothing more to it than that. What a sad piece of fucktrash you must be, actively hoping for the downfall of anons that you will never meet or know.
>>77259246Women dont care as long as you're not hippo sized or an Auschwitz victim. Height and face and to a certain extent hair is all that mattersGo on now i'm curious what delusional narcisstic cope you'll come up with next to justify the sunken effort and time you've wasted doing slave activities. You're a victim of toxic positivity and peer pressure and now you're panicking because your worldview is shattered in what you consider your safe space bubble
>>77258767It's literally the opppsite>>77259183Women fawn over all kinds of things they think are cute. Most women are not PDFs like gross moids, so they don't want to fuck the things that are cute!
Anon, the OP picture is illustrating that men are becoming less manly. That's the pic. And you should probably gather some data first... I think girls prefer the left.
>>77259254keep telling yourself that. When I walk into somewhere filling out a large sized polo, w\ my jacked arms on display, they notice.. they mire.
Is Burt Reynolds really 25 in that picture, though? He was born in 1936.
>>77258767Actually being natty will have you looking like the right more than it will on the left. Only way you get to the left as a natty is if you get FAT and cut down.
>>77258829Lol if that's the case why not just become a lesbian? Some of you guys are so pathetic with the copes. >>77258860I mean it's somewhat true. Women don't feel sexual desire for a good 95% of men. They get super horny for actual attractive men, which are rare. Men think that by being rich they can shortcut this but all you're getting are whores you have to pay for.
Don Frye was 30 years old when he first entered the octagon not 25
>>77258767>while women desire
Both left and right get women. OP doesn't look like either of them though
>>77258918>>77259059>>77259126>>77259163>>77259181>>77259299>>77259485If you are a homosexual then of course you won't care what women want. Oh, what's that? You want to have sex with women? Ok then, you should probably figure out what they go for so you can improve your odds. Stop coping because YOU prefer the left, women will all say they like the right more especially the ones under 25. Even with older women there's a reason they go after teenage boys. >>77259120How many women were you fucking in your 20s vs your 30s? Tell me actual numbers, what you "THINK" doesn't mean shit.>>77259183This guy gets it. The guys that actually end up taking these girls' virginities all look like pretty boy twinks.
>>77259218They do, niggerfaggotIf you actually lifted you could see for yourself>>77259254>Women dont care as long as you're not hippo sized or an Auschwitz victimAnd you would know this how? I am 99% sure you fall into one of these two categories. Post body and prove me wrong. I will if you do
>>77259588checkedyou're delusional. Probably can't even grow a beard, desu. Women swoon over the jacked "dad bod". You may be twink maxxing, but some of us are actually men.
>>77259672>Women swoon over the jacked "dad bod".Maybe 30+ year old roasties like "manly" guys, but all the hot 25 and under girls like the twinks.
Trooned out wog bait thread
>>77259672women's definition of dad bod is 17-22%, not the 25-40% obese beast you are thinking
>>77258767don frye looks like a tom of finland cartoon
>>77259687>but all the hot 25 and under girls like the twinks.The "twink" in question: >6'4 >170lbs>15% bodyfat You're retarded
>>77259687You are just ugly. If you're a chad you pull young pussy at any age
>>77258829lesbians don't really exist. you're just ugly>naracismoh, genuinely retarded too
>>77259818>baldshe wants your money
>>77259826Joke's on her: I'm not rich
>>77259827still gets your resources
>>77259812That gives him a BMI of under 21. That's pretty fucking thin. >>77259800All they do is cope, we told them the powershitter body is ugly but they're in too deep and too prideful to admit they were trolled and think using GLPs is a "shortcut".>>77259818>Shitty stubble>Bald>Wearing sunglasses like a toolIf youre fine with just being a trick that's cool but don't act as if you're not sharing her with a guy that looks like the right in the OP that's her own age.
>>77259872>Sharing herLmao I'm not american, we don't do this cuck shit here
>>77259302>When I walk into somewhere filling out a large sized polo, w\ my jacked arms on display, they notice.. they mire.
>>77258852So it's the dumbest thing you've read in two days? I agree with you that what anon said is extremely retarded, but this insult doesn't really have the sting you think it does.
>>77259872This is a 6'3 170lbs UFC fighter.And I doubt he's 15% body fat
>>77258767Yes
>>77259588>>77259672Even if you were lean or ripped to attract women, how would you show off without spending time at a beach, pool, or walking around with a shirt off?
>>77260131look good with a shirt on by focusing on delts and traps?
>>77260003no it isn't. UFC weigh ins are always significantly lower. he's probably closer to 190-200
>>77260003He likely walks around at 200-215. none of these guys fight at their natural weight.
>>77260140>>77260380>le durrrr I heard he weighs 275 acksuallyI remember hearing this shit about Anderson Silva, how he walked around at 220 despite fighting at 185 blah blahThen he accepted a short notice fight at LHW and showed up at a fat 198 lbsIn reality, they're probably like 15 lbs heavier on fight night and that's it. If they walk around heavier than that, it's mostly fat.
>>77260511The first few seasons of The Ultimate Fighter showed how much cutting they go through. Guys would eat a ton of food during their down time after training and end up in a steam room for a day to lose weight. Some even gave up losing weight.
>>77260128Bro was an absolute Chad in his prime. The norwood reaper takes no prisoners.
>>77260131>Well-fitting shirt>Tank top>Getting lean enough to have bicep veins and just wearing a poloTrust women can tell the difference between a lean guy with abs and a skinnyfat dude even when you're both wearing shirts.
>>77259956Yeah look at you thinky-man. So clever with your thinky thoughts. Fuck you
>>77260539Did it show how much weight they lost? Losing 15-20 lbs is no joke in of itself
>>77260588I remember the Rhona Rousey season one guy gave up cutting five pounds. I read Rousey cut 15lbs at the same time to show it's physically and mentally challenging.
>>77260588It sucks but it's definitely doable.
>>77258767I think it's more about which weight class they feel the most comfortable fighting in. None look like they do to impress someone, but to literally work since it's their job. I'd say that their only cosmetic decision is Frye's mustache, but pretty much everything else is normal. Oh, and their workout routines are pretty much the same, but with a different calorie intake and cycle since Frye is from an era where you could get away with a larger dose.
>>77258767this comes off as huge cope, in reality both of this guys definetly do well with women just different types of chicks. If you go outside more often op, you would know this.i.e the left probably does better with older or more feminine chicks whilst the right probably does better with new-age/hippie chicks/or those on birth control ifykyk
>>77260140>>77260380Hey tards, they drop pure WATER WEIGHT. You dumb fucking niggers
>>77260552No he wasn't. The hair is very good, but look at the face.
over a decade ago this board psyopped me into turbo blackpilling and thinking that it's all about looks. As I get older I've come to realise that whilst looks are important and the benefits they give to your confidence over the years from compounding good treatment, the most important things to be attractive to a woman is social status. Social status comes in many forms but nowadays is mainly indicated through fame and wealth. None of the people in this picture were attractive:>KissingerChubby politics jew, serial womaniser>Mick JaggerI would say he's below average looks yet women love him because he's confident and a mega superstar singer>The BeatlesAll ugly except long haired George, read between the lines from interviews with Lennon and these 4 were shagging 16 y/o teen girls by the dozen every concert.>Jake PaulTerrible hair, terrible jew beard. Engaged to a gorgeous olympic speed skater.Social status and the confidence that comes with it are the most important thing to women and it will change how they rank you on physical attractiveness, women aren't objective how attractive they find you can change based on numerous things. The most important thing you need to be in this life is capable, self sufficient, and able to provide for both of you. After that it's Height > Face > Frame.
>>77260980This is 100% correct, but you need a level of baseline hygiene as well. Hygiene, not genetics. Nobody with poor hygiene has good social status.
>>77260980Mick Jagger is attractive and Jake Paul is tall and muscular.With guys like Kissinger you have to realize that no one has ever had honest sexual attraction towards him, it's purely transactional and no different than fucking a hooker.
>>77261141>no one has ever had honest sexual attraction towards him, it's purely transactionalHow do you know that's true? Sounds like something that lookists tell themselves to cope with their lack of status/power and lack of success in life.Power is and has always been incredibly attractive at a deep psychological level, far more than looks will ever be.
>>77259588Caring a lot about what women want and being desperate for female validation is one of the most unattractive traits a man can have.Anything that you do as a man that's theoretically attractive it immediately becomes unattractive if it's known you only do it to attract women.
>>77260980Literally no one loves or likes any of the people you mentioned, they're props and stepping stones for everyone that orbitted them.Congrats you went from someone with a realistic approach (looks are all that matter) to a betabuxx mentality retard who unironically wants to be some womans "provider". That's impressive
>>77258767I don't buy that right is more attractive to anybody, desu, and it's not due to the difference in musculature or masculinity , but rather than Frye just had way better facial features and aura
dyel/lean cardio+calisthenics physique is simply a better effort/time investment from a purely utilitarian perspective (doesn't mean it's necessarily the best)>clothes fit immediately better>better perfomance in day to day tasks, can run a mile without dying, can climb shit, keep up with your kids and so on, you can also engage with other activities, maybe sharing a common interest with your partner like dance, martial arts or whatever>requires less effort for maintenance, achievable natty (literally do fork put-downs 1xF every day, time is the only factor)>more of a reason to go outside to train at the local calisthenics park, the environment is just different than a gym>if it's good enough for hollywood (must appeal to men and women) then it's good enough for everyonehowever there's nothing wrong with wanting to be strong and buff, your job might require it as wellad the end it's pretty much irrelevant if you are fat, a dyel or buff of whatever, if your personality is shit nobody will care anyway as research and practice shows time and time again, just don't be a whining autistic retard and think before speaking, that's all>inb4 retard/faggot/other random insultshow about you engage with the points and we have a civil discussion for once, this is my thesis and I elaborated on it
>>77259254Yeah that's a whole bunch of projected bullshit that you somehow think I embody. Nah the simple fact is I don't like demotivators and I think you're pathetic. Easy as that. Anyone who spends their time actively wishing for people who they don't know to fail is objectively a loser, a bitch and a cuck.
>>77260552But he became 2x champ after he shaved his head. So it's worth it
>>77258767I've got a facial structure more like the guy on the left, but skin more like the guy on the right. Completely mog both, kek.
>>77258767Women like left moreGay men like right more
>>77261661Gays have all kinds of types they're attracted to, you should know this better than the rest of us.
People need to start talking about how women are pedos and want to fuck teenagers.Only men get labeled as pedos for some reason.
>>77260980It's all about percentiles right? So if youre in the top 0.1% of status or money, yes it can help you with women, but you pretty much have to be at the top. The thing is even if you have a good job making 100k a year, that isn't enough to actually get women to want to fuck you. Where as with looks, having a 6 pack and being lean will make them want to fuck.
>>77261867No it wont. All the top 100 richest guys in the world are married to absolutely atrocious looking women and are invisible to most women even with their immense wealth and powerWhen was the last time you've heard a woman talking about the shivering orgasms she had while flicking her bean to jeff bezos or jack ma
>>77261867>Where as with looks, having a 6 pack and being lean will make them want to fuck.This is also copeLooks = height + face + minor hair involvement
>>77261165Eh power is attractive but it doesn't mean women like you for you it's for what you can give them. That's one thing I always see with these "hurr these guys are ugly" posts. Most of the time they are actually good looking you're just downplaying their looks to make your point. Mick Jagger as a young guy was very good looking, It's just that we only know him from when he got older, there's a reason the song lyric goes "all the dudes lining up thinking they got swagger, but we kick them to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger"
>>77261613All valid points. I would also add that it's much easier to hit milestones like a sub 6 minute mile and running a half marathon as a natty than it is to hit 3/4/5 as a natty in terms of lifts. There's also the reality that you live a lot longer as a cardio person than as just a bodybuilder/lifter, as those guys usually have shorter lives.
>>77261885>There's also the reality that you live a lot longer as a cardio person than as just a bodybuilder/lifter, as those guys usually have shorter lives.lol no. Runner are extremely unhealthy and riddled with injuries on top of being malnourished and riddled with digestive system cancers.On average, lifters are healthier. Adjusted for steroids, lifters are still healthier. Running is catabolic and unnatural. Sprinting is good tho, walking is great. Everything in between is a death cult
>>77261871Height I agree with. Being lean will help you with face. Hair is also a big one. That said 50 Cent was never "attractive" but a lot of women really liked the fact that he had an impressive physique. That said, that person is mistaken because there are less men with 6 packs than there are men that are millionaires. >>77261870There's the meme where the hottest wives are the guys that are multimillionaires (actors, pro athletes, etc) but billionaires usually have chopped wives.
>>77261867>The thing is even if you have a good job making 100k a year, that isn't enough to actually get women to want to fuck you.Hearing stuff like this always reminds me of a friend of mine. He lifts and makes around $250-300k/year, but he's not particularly good looking and is also an autistic retard who's obsessed with his cat; he blows any first date he gets by talking too much about it.
>>77259261>PDFsKill yourself zoomie.
>>77261613Totally disagree. Muscle looks better and is more useful in everyday life. >>better perfomance in day to day tasks, can run a mile without dying, can climb shit, keep up with your kids and so on, you can also engage with other activities, maybe sharing a common interest with your partner like dance, martial arts or whateverThat's nuts. How often do you have to run miles versus move a couch or lift a person or something. Strength is way more practical.
>>77261897You're thinking of the marathon guys. Sprinters have bodies closer to body builders in terms of having muscle. Also it's not unnatural, running is how we survived back in the day.
>>77261913Yeah that's the thing people talk about money as if it's some magic button to getting a woman, but nowadays women make their own money so while you having money is important, they'll only sit through you being autistic about your cat if you're making millions a year.
>>77261957>running is how we survived back in the day.Kek survived what ? There's barely any animals in the wild that are a threat to humans that dont outrun and especially outstamina even the elite outliers on PEDsSprinting and ambushing and throwing are our best tools
>>77260980Women use them for money. They'd happily fuck broke Chad on the side.
>>77261867How do they show off their money without looking desperate for attention?
>>77262407They don't. Unless they're in an elite social circle it doesn't matter how much money they have. Most "rich" people are also in areas where having a lot of money doesn't mean much so it's not like they're drowning in pussy
>>77262407Desu buy some bougie /sp/orting equipment; less likely to kill you than a car/plane/heli, less gay and douchie than /fa/ drip, better value/reuse than some gross /ck/ meme restaurant/vineyard dish/wine.>t. rich non-frivolous spender not trying to get stabbed up at Club Clav.
>>77262902Post body
