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dear /fit/izens, tl;dr what should good pre workout be like?

I've been lifting for 6 months now and experimenting, stumbling, succeeding etc
At the beginning started with simple fruit 1 hour pre workout since fructose + fast carbs digest quickly so quick energy. Then added more, noticed better results, Fast forward to now I take about 70g in carbs 1 hour before workout in form of banana+ honey (with cinnamon where possible) and my lifts have improved.

Then I read that pre workout should contain whey protein since its also digested quickly so I went full retard, added 30g whey to my usual carbs and this was too much, so felt bloated the beginning of training, and second session despite lowering whey to 20g had full blown cramps.
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>>77261359
Idk lol
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>>77261359
2 meals 90-30min pre-workout and a ton of orange juice or whatever with the 30min one. Depending on how much mass you have I'll feel hungry very soon after a 1000calorie meal and go into a deficit mid workout, destroying my gains.
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>>77261359
deep inhales of the musk from a cardio bunny milf's virgin asshole
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>wake up
>cup of coffee
>mouthful of honey
>dry scoop pre workout in parking lot
>enter gym
>drink coconut water throughout workout for hydration and carbs
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>>77261359
Muscle/period cramps can be fixed with magnesium, though you have to be careful with the type you use and using too much because it's also a laxative at high doses.

If you want ambient protein circulating in your bloodstream while you work out, then try something like collagen or glycine to offset the jitters from caffiene. Maybe l-theanine too (or just drink green tea). Circulating collegen/glycine while you increase blood flow to your joints, ligaments, tendons, and bones as you work out is great because the increased bloodflow allows greater penetration of this nutrient into that tissue.

Just be aware that calcium and to a lesser degree iron inhibits absorption of protein by altering the pH of your stomach, so don't mix milk with your pre-workout. Consider putting all your dairy in one meal too, milk and grilled cheese sandwich or something, and take your K2/D3 and other fat soluble vitamins during that time.

Otherwise save the whey for post-workout.
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>>77262321
Vitamin C is also needed to make new collagen in the body, so take a vitamin C tablet prior to working out.

tl;dr

Joint & Bone Health Preworkout
> Vitamin C tablet or fruit juice for joint health
> Collagen or glycine for joint health
> Sugar for quick sharp energy
> Flavored electrolyte powder for muscle cramps and focus
> Optional: Jello mix for flavoring
> Optional: instant coffee or green tea powder for caffeine and l-theanine for energy
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>>77261359
I just eat three meals a day like normal and go in two hours after my last meal so I don't throw it back up halfway through a session



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