best preworkout (legal) that feels like a speed bump? like WOOOOOOOOHH, but healthy-ish (as long as i go to the gym). Caffeine is too weak for me, doesnt hit well.either way, im gonna return to the gym NOW.AFTER A LONG TIME. Fuck satan.
>>77264630>best preworkoutmeth>(legal)caffeine>Caffeine is too weak for memeth
>>77264638i never did meth methbut i did take "pills" which probably had meth and holy fuck i walked from williamsburg to uptown manhattan back and forth and went to 30 different bars. And I could run a marathon.Caffeine sucks tho. I dont feel anything nigga like…………… maybe microdosing meth + modafinil + caffeine + honey + salt for the pump
>>77264630Caffeine plus rhodiola plus ginseng is a fairly smooth basic bitch bonafide PED stimmy stack.
>>77264630>Caffeine too weakMaybe stop abusing caffeine?>To the gym NOWHell yeahNow go use that caffeine hooked excessive dopemine response addictive prone brain of yours to your long term advantage and Pavlov yourself into a gym habit.
>>77264630Caffeine pills hit different than coffee/energy drinks. A 150mg pill is way more effective than the 300mg energy drinks i occasionally get. If caffeine is "too weak" for you, pop 2 pills and you'll change your mind.
>>77264717believe me nigga i drink like 3 full nespresso capsules per day and blast jimmy buffett on the speakers you have no idea cuh. they not be hittin frwhereas speed is more like HELL YEAH BUCKO
Take a break from caffeine to re-sensitise yourself, then take some bullshit like MyProtein's Origin preworkout, add in two grams of salt, 20 grams of glycerol, a tablespoon of honey, two extra grams of citrulline so you get a total of 10, a tablespoon of honey, and you'll have a quality preworkout.The stim junkie road is fucking retarded. Get your head in the gym, lock in, and put in the work. Anything else just makes you a dependent junkie.
>>77264724>Get your head in the gym, lock in, and put in the work.
>>77264729>le gosh hecking soijaks u guiseHe is right. If you can't rep 100+ kg on bench without stimming harder than an autist post-meltdown, you're dependent.
>>77264750i obviously can bench +100kg you fucking retard. i can rep it like 3 times without flinching. And i just take test and sarms. No tren or anything schizo like that. I also can do fucking deadlift with like almost 3 plates you gay nigger.
what was it in the good jack3d, dmaa? that stuff was the best>t. bought some in 2015
>>77264783>Obviously can bench +100 kg>you retard>three reps>test and sarms>nothing schizo>this entire postI'm the natty king who posted that le soijak preworkout stack. I bench 120 kg for 5 to 6 reps, depending on the day. What the fuck are you blasting this shit for? Three reps of 100 kg ~without flinching~? Is every aspect of your training and eating just that shit or is your life this sad?Jesus Christ.
>>77264630how much caffeine are you taking in one sitting (not in one go but say over like 2-3 hours) when you say it doesn't affect you. if it's like sub 1g then just push till 1.5 or something
>>77264718that's 300mg only
Tadalifil to me is a much better preworkout
>>77264630caffeine shud be the base of ur pre. most stimulants work synergically. just add dmaa, dmha, dmba, halostachine, yohimbine, alphayo, alpha gpc, synephrine, etc.. also don't forget that strong stims can interfere with ur pump.. so make sure you add some vasodilators and things that can increase hydration like glycerol.
>>77264783>>77264796The natty bvll schools the roid tranny grasshopper. Nature is beautiful.
>>77264630Bromantane + PRL-8-53 + NMNAlternately put on a nicotine patch before you work out.
I've been using this stuff and it works out well enough for me.
>>77264724>20 grams of glycerolnuclear poop explosion
>>77264630Eating, bro. A banana gives me the energy a fucking energy drink doesn't.
>>77264630i'm trying to source picrel but can only find it on this UK site despite it being made in the US. i go with no caffeine and just add caffeine on days i want to (which is rarely because i usually lift late at night). nutricartel and notnatty.shop are the best sites to find shit beyond what you can get on amazon. the subreddits stimjunkiepreworkouts and preworkoutsupplements are pretty good for seeing reviews.
I mean if you want to really see some shit you can try this. Other Dark Labs products work well too like Crack. There's a couple youtube channels that review preworkouts and theres a whole world of fucked up and evil shit out there.
>>77264630If caffine is too weak you need to do less of it. Like only take on days you train on days you don't take none. You'll resensitize to it in a few weeks. If you train more than 3 days a week, stop doing that.
>>77264630>1 hour before workoutcoca tea + a lot of sugar + piracetam>30 mins before workoutcaffeine + stimulants (like lipo 6) + citruline malate
>>77264647Literally nobody asked
>>77264783>>77264796>>77264845Now post bodies to back up your claims (you won't)
>>77265306if coffee is too weak you probably get enough quality sleep not to need it and aren't addicted to the shite. Caffeine exerts most of its effects by tricking your brain into thinking there isn't any adenosine buildup in your brain. Adenosine buildup happens when body breaks down ATP and uses it's energy and adenosine in the brain makes us feel tired. When we're asleep the adenosine gets broken down and flushed out of the brain, so if you need caffeine in the morning to "wake yourself up" you should probably do something about the underlying issue, which is likely sleeping like shit.Lamest fucking stimulant in existence.
>>77264865You can take up to ~1.5 grams of glycerol per kg bodyweight, so long as you also drink enough water. Unless your body just hates it, you won't get the shits from this much glycerol.
>>77264787I remember Jack3d Premium. The reason it got changed was because military members began failing piss tests. I was one of them. They let everyone off but banned using Jack3d until the ingredients changed.
>>77264630Welbutrin 450 mg extended release w/ caffeine. Also great for brain gains.
>>77264630Red Bull
original formula of this eats meth for breakfast
