>Who is /fat/ for?For Desert destroyers who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77263676
Threadly Reminder, that:WAGMI
I kinda feel weird asking this here but I've lost like 40lbs, I'm in my late 30s and I just got morning wood for the first time since I was a fucking teenager, is that.. normal? I've been popping boners at random even when not consciously aroused, I'm not used to this. This happen to anyone else when they lost weight?
>>77265874>I'm in my late 30s and I just got morning wood for the first time since I was a fucking teenager, is that.. normal?Yes, fat suppress testosterone and when you go back to a normal weight things start to work again.
So hungry and I don‘t eat After 4pmLord give me strength
>>77265911>So hungry and I don‘t eat After 4pmInshallah
>>77265911hang in there fatbro
>>77265918Masallah>>77265923We have to Right?
>>77265918>>77265911Think about the houris you will get in afterlife habibi
Ate the whole kitchen last night in a vodka-fueled binge. I needed the liquid courage to press 'send' on a risky e-mail. Then I need to drink to read the response.This is my life kurzgesagt, which is German and means in a nutshell.I'm a fucking NEET and theoretically have the privilege of being able to go full monk mode to eliminate stressors.
I am 8 pounds away from going from obese to overweight on the bmi scale. Ill go as low as I can and try to get into healthy. It might be tough muscle wise but I am pleased by my accomplishment.
Be sure to never eat carbs for easy mode and guaranteed success.
>>77265956But when I did that I had zero energy
My controversial statement is that all three macronutrients are important.
Fatty ContestNapoli70.8kgSup nerds obligatory fuck you to the keto spammer(s) hope everyone had a good strong week. Fasted a little, didn't lift, hoping to get that sweet sub70kg next week.
>>77265874>I've been popping boners at random even when not consciously arousedthis is normal pp behavior
>>77265956Keto, Atkins and MatkinsJust have a balanced diet bro
>>77265874Did this happen during your steep caloric deficit as well or just after you've lost the weight and stabilized calories? I know losing weight can help with erections but sometimes during a deep cut they temporarily get worse....curious as to what happened with you.
I’m keto but still have a belly
Fatty Contest FairySchizo225.6 lbs
>>77265962>but doctor where will our bodies get energy
>>77265980I've been going slow and steady with a ~500kcal deficit this whole time. I hear you get tons of loose skin if you go fast so I wanted to take it slow. I wasn't sure if it was just eating clean or the weight loss.>>77265906>>77265975Alright, good to know. It just feels so weird waking up with a boner, like I haven't had that happen since I was a teenager and I've pretty much had one every morning for the last few weeks. Its going to take some getting used to getting these again, for the last 20-something years of my life I only got boners when I was looking at or thinking about something erotic, now its like I pop a boner when I reorder a filing cabinet or pour myself a glass of water >Why boner?>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>77265962The more you stay on it, the less energy you have.
Dear god can we please have a thread without keto spam and pointless circular arguing?
>>77266024Just let him reply to himself or newfags who cares
>>77266028I kinda do care because it buries any legit conversation, I really gotta setup the filters.
>>77266003time to get tigh briefs to hold it in place
>>77266024This will be pretty hard, ketoschizo floods and replies to himself as strawman.
>>77265869true
I need some tips for something to pig out on under 2k calories, something I can make lots and lots of over the weekend. Any suggestions?
>>77266058Non-starch vegetable have basically zero calories.
>>77266011Yeah because you lose body fat. Body fat is stored energy.
>77266072Ketoschizo, can you try to stop the lying and spam for a moment?
>>77266058Kojack noodles are essentially zero calorie. Be warned though, they're all indigestable fiber so it may cause some GI issues if you go too far or aren't used to high fiber.
>>77266102>konjac rather
>>77266072>no belt, no strapsbut how many roid?
>>77266107Bu.. but he makes a living by saying you can be like him, without roids, if you follow his (paid) advice.
>>77266001Using that argument, why not just stop eating and dont eat until you are skinny?
>>77266116Barbieri?
>>77266116Fasting works great. If I was fat I would probably do a weekly fast and no carb the rest of the week.
>>77266134Why not fast + a healthy diet instead
>>77266150Meat and eggs are the healthiest foods.What's your definition of a "healthy diet"? Whole grains? Fiber?
>77266156You're too dishonest, try not to pretend your shitty diet is the same of a healthy low-carb diet.
>>77266116Sounds just as healthy, but faster.
>>77266134Can you read? Why a weekly fast? Just don't eat until you are skinny, ketoschizo
>>77266072>237ng/dl testosteroneyour dude is on roids. low testosterone for a big dude with huge delts is a sure sign he is off cycle and his body is yet to fully restore testosterone production>6.3% HbA1c (pre-diabetic)he might not even be on ketothe pic is from a podcast he appeared on so it's legithttps://robbwolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Shawn-Baker-labs-4.pnghttps://robbwolf.com/2018/03/13/episode-385-dr-shawn-baker-carnivore-diet-and-dr-bakers-blood-work/>>77266107too many
>>77266185you get gut issues if you literally don't eat at all. besides, you need electrolytes, minerals, and shit.
>>77266190>he might not even be on ketoThis is pretty obvious.
>>77266195Not really, as long as you eat some multivitamins a barbieri-style fast is as healthy as keto.
>>77266199i'm leaving a small chance for something i know nothing about like a rare genetic disease
>>77266240Which would make using him as an example even worse.
should I add something to SS? I started 2 weeks ago and I feel like I need something for my biceps at least
>>77266338some people advise against doing SS because of too much ass training and advise doing a bro split or training every muscle group.i just have dumbbells at home so idk and i'm just repeating what i read.chin ups are great for biceps but dedicated curls are important for some people who have a hard time growing biceps.
>my Saturday cheat meals were in fact the cause of my weight stallsIt's so freaking over, you cannot in fact have your cake and eat it too
>>77266338SS is specially good to lose weight, but it is leg's heavy.
>>77266185Fast as long as you want. Fasting works great for weight loss. Anything that no eating carbs is great.
>>77266190Stay mad, vegan.
>>77266361>5x200m>1:20 paceDo people actually row like this? This isn't the first time I've seen this kind of rowing split. I'm an obese lardass and even I go for 2000m nonstop at a <=1 minute per 200m pace. Usually 3 sets, maybe 4 if I'm feeling fired up. I do rest a few minutes between each set though.
Fatty contestbigdookie303.6
>>77266352>have a cheat Saturday>aggressive cut during the week>weight still going down works on my machine
>>77266352i'd argue that you can, you just have less cakebut i understand most people's "cheat" days are crazy too calorically lol
>>77265628my entries seem to be ignored in fatty contest like this one and the one before it. Am I too fat?
>>77266361now you're adopting their tactics of not addressing the topic.keto and Shawn Baker being a fraud are mutually exclusive topics.
>>77266421weight then height
>>77266440>keto and Shawn Baker being a fraud are mutually exclusive topics.keto and keto shills being frauds and liars are related, tho.
>cut on track to finish by the end of June>feeling intense cravings for junk food I haven't eaten in decades>Publix strategically placing Krispy Kreme displays in front of meat/dairyI might need to start chewing nicotine gum when I go grocery shopping.
fatty contestMT_FATSO102.7kg176cm>>77266442 ok, trying this
Another 12 day workout streak done. Took a nice 1h powerwalk as soon as I got back from the gym. Boy oh boy the summer's starting! Now a self made pizza's in the oven. Lots of cheese, pepperoni, onion (in ring format), beef broth soaked soi granolas and a bunch of garlic! For dessert as much greek yogurt as I can fit inside me. Carboloading for the next streak, and I'll propably be enjoying the summer weather outside the whole weekend. Life is good!
>>77266512waw that sounds delicious and idealhope you enjoy your weekend and pizza!!
wtf this chigga eating over 4k cals a day.What's our excuse fatsisters...
>>77266587asian folk tend to keep the fat more internally around the organssome have to eat a lot a lot to have it shown externallyalso this guy is obv more active than the other dude would be my guess
i'm worried about my gallbladder broswhat do i doi already drink a lot of water, get enough fibre and eat veggies
>>77266633Dammit Jim, I'm a shitposter, not a doctor
>>77266635bro pls...i've been getting some little pangs of discomfort in that region and i'm worried but i also don't want to increase my caloric intake...
Fatty contestSub10099.2kgWell, that was a hard slog but my now job here is doneSee ya later losers
>>77266640No for real go see a fucking doctor, any answer someone on this site thinks they're qualified to give should be viewed with extreme scepticism
>>77266646you're right, i was just hoping there were others that had experience with it and they could relay what did and didn't work for themty anon
recomp, fellasThis is the way.
Fatty Contest Fatwicker215.8 lbs Its coming off quick still. Kinda excited how im gonna look when I go get a pump later. My waistline just hit 36 inches even.
>>77266641Congrats on hitting your goal. Hope you keep it off.
>>77266641Good job anon, congrats.
>>77266633Low-fat diets cause gallstones. You're not eating low-fat are you? It's the worst possible diet.
>incomplete knowledge of common issues for people losing weight rapidly>double spacing like a ledditorHE is here
For someone with chronic kidney disease, do you guys have any idea of how to lose weight without overloading on protein?I've lost a huge amount of weight in the past doing protein + salad as my meals (mainly salmon and chicken) but I'd like to cut back.I'm not fat anymore I just want to be able to maintain and occasionally lose a few if I go over.
Today I have eaten 14 eggs.
>>77266683Protein is not bad for kidneys. Kidney disease is caused by carbohydrate.
>>77266704I saw that meme on tiktok, thank you for posting it here
tonight i'm going to make >bake salmon>bake enoki>bake sweet potatonormally i'd just do the fish and mushroom but feeling cheeky and think a lil roasted potato sounds nice plus they're small so it will be more fun to eat
has anyone here had any experience with meal replacement shakes?
>>77266751i used to rely on them ages ago and hate themthey're very nice for underweight people and elderly that need help supplementing their dietsfor overweight folks i'm not sure though how helpful they are/can be personally
38 workouts to go till goal
>>77266751
>>77266759those for the elderly have more calories, meal replacement for fatties often lean more towards protein and essential vitamins/minerals
>>77266784oh that's good to know
>>77266683potatoes are the GOAT of all weight loss foods
>>77266751they taste gross, leave you hungrier than solid food, and make you hate your diet
>>77266587just be active
FattyContestBostonBeachedWhale318.6lbsGood movement this week. My best friend's wedding is next week. My suit that I got at my biggest is now way too big for me. The tailor couldn't bring it down enough. Since the best man is his brother, best friend said he's cool with me getting nice pants and a sport coat since it's for a good reason that I don't have a tailored suit.
>>77266802just had potato's for lunch, thanks potato's.>having 10 eggs for dinner.going to need a good walk soon though.
>>77266802Potatoes are carbs. Carbs are fattening.
>>77266839>Carbs are fattening.LMAO
>>77266831that's awesome man, congratulationshope you have a nice time at the wedding!
>>77266843Thank you.I've started exploring some bolder color choices for myself as I've become a bit more comfortable with myself, so I'm looking forward to wearing what I got.
>>77266842Stay mad, carbtard.
>>77266831have you gotten a lot of comments of your weight loss?
Fatty ContestPortuFat87.5kg
>>77266859Yeah, a fair amount.A lot of people, especially those I work with, have been very supportive. Now that I've crossed the 100+ lost, people are saying that I look like a completely different guy.I haven't posted a comparison pic in a while, so here you go.Left is me in July, when I was huge, and right is today - still big, but not as huge.
it's insane how much better treat you when you've lost some fat.
>>77266866holy shit it's gabe newell
>>77266877I have heard this many times. It's funny every time.
>>77266866how old are u?
>>77266886I am 30. I was 29 in the picture on the left.
>>77266846nice! hope you have fun with it play around with stuff, see what you like. this is your second lease on life, enjoy it>>77266866it's awesome to see how happy you are nowyou've worked so hard, congrats anon
>>77266892>it's awesome to see how happy you are now>you've worked so hard, congrats anonThat's something a lot of people around me have pointed out as well. My mom especially - when I saw her for mother's day, she kept talking about how she loves seeing me smiling again.It's a little grim, but looking at these two pictures myself makes me realize how much I hated myself before. I was in denial about it, but I can see it in my face now. That man was slowly trying to kill himself.
>>77266889grim
>>77266902Indeed it is. I missed out on my 20s, but it's better to fix it now rather than never, right?
>>77266900awwwww that's amazing :')i bet ur mum is not only super relieved to see you turning your life around but also elated at how visably happier and better you're feeling as well. that's amazing.>I was in denial about it>That man was slowly killing himselfthat's the hardest partin the deepest depths of depression it's hard to make any moves or see anyway outyou did the hard part, you pulled yourself up and you've just kept on climbingsuper proud of u and you're also a great inspiration, i hope many anons can feel hope and inspired by you
Time for a 72 hrs fastNext eating window is on Monday
>>77265855Are you going to eat what you're supposed to, anons? (no carbs).
>weigh myself for lols>110kgWas a week ago. Been on a diet since. Heaviest i ever measured myself. Sorta let myself go after i quit drugs and drinking a year ago.What worries me most however is how my gf had a breakdown because i'm dieting, for some reason. Says she feels guilty for eating junk without me yet cannot diet with me idk. I made it clear i'm doing this with or without her.
>77266948I don't think anyone here want to crippled themselves with a diet like you, ketoschizo.
>>77266900>hated myself beforeI feel that now kek. Mix of loneliness, poverty and low self esteem especially thanks to how I feel that I look. My dad always tells me I’m never happy and shit and it’s kind of true, then when I visited my aunt she asked why am I always frowning. It really sucks to be egged on about frowning when I’m already unhappy due to a multitude of things. Not doing it on purpose, I just wish I could make myself feel better already. It’s no wonder I dropped 100lbs and the g gained back 70 of it. I didn’t settle with my inner demons. I was in Walmart and saw my reflection and I hated that I saw an obese person again instead of the one I worked so hard to get skinny for
74.2 kg this morning. was 80 kg in March.I drastically decreased my caloric intake. Last time I wrote here I was talking about moving to high protein diet ALONG with reducing calorie intake.Recent experience with constipation made me cut off animal meat protein in favor of fish. A few important notes on that. Red fish is great but in moderation - even farmed/ranched salmon/tuna is OK but wild is superior. Tuna is the least optimal fish due to high mercury content. White fish is better, but I have had poor experience with tilapia. It's a freshwater fish and the taste is meh, even if seasoned. I did enjoy Alaska pollock and Pacific hake much more. Wild caught pelagic fish has fewer calories and more protein packed in it. About 350 grams of Hake packs only 280 kcal but a whooping 63 grams of protein. One kilo of hake will yield 189 grams of protein but only 840 kcal. Add some air fried broccoli or cauliflower, salt plus seasoning to that and you've got yourself a daily plan below 1200 kcal = you literally can't fail losing weight with this unless you're a midget.
>>77266970>cont'dBut I cut even white fish to just a few times a week at most. I had to go back adding carbs to my diet but it's coming only from dairy. Hard and mild cheeses are great. I down them with yogurt / kefir and it gives me a protein/calcium boost. Extra fat from hard cheese helps a lot but yogurts generally have way higher sugar/carb content, so smaller portions are better. I eat only 40-50 grams of cheese per meal, so I don't overshoot on the calorie content. On a side note, we do have these vegan "full-meal" shakes. They are nice if you don't care about content (like seed oils -ewww) and they have 300-400 kcal per bottle. However, they are expensive and there are yogurts that are not only cheaper but have actual dairy, which are much better for digestion. Moreover, since they are fermented, they are far more palatable than milk. I have a serious case of lactose reaction, so having excess of it consumed by the lactobacteria is a great option for me.
>>77266992>cont'dAt 74 kg I feel better but I still have a visible belly fat even early in the morning. I am using picrel to calculate the "calorie ceiling" for me. Even though I exercise 2 times a week, I use the "sedentary" setting when calculating 1 kg per week loss. I just see better results with it sooner, and it motivates me much more as well.
>>77266900>That man was slowly trying to kill himself.Sometimes we convince ourselves we're living, when really we are merely waiting to die. Slimming down from obesity is how I finally found true happiness and I had to deal with people constantly telling me "Becoming fit isn't going to magically make you happier, you have to learn to love yourself for who you are!" all along the way. How can I love myself if my gut so big I can't even see my dick? And I'm not one of those fatties who blames others for getting here, I ate the food, I accept the blame. The process of getting into shape (focus, discipline, sticking to it even if I relapsed into shitty behaviors) is what brought me confidence and happiness. Sorry for the tangent, great work turning your life around, bud.
>>77266929Don't forget your electrolytes (sodium, potassium, magnesium)
If it weren't for the pain, I would run every day.
>>77267021>How can I love myself if my gut so big I can't even see my dick?Yeah, for me it was asking myself how I can say I love this woman if I clearly hate myself. I think most of us here have had a moment where we ask ourselves the right question to get us to change our lives.
I started dieting and walking 30 mins-1:30 hour and ive lost like 30 pounds in six months, I started yin yoga this month and do it daily and going to start pilates sunday.(fixing my pelvic floor)What do I do for strength? Im trying to save money so no gym or tons of equipment. Im kinda weak.
>>77267042Resistance bands
>>77267042Once saw a documentary where these prisoners in madagascar worked out with equipment made from bottles of water. 8x 1.5L bottles with water is 20kg, fill a bag with those and you got a makeshift kettlebell, if unwieldly.Also dips and pull ups.
>>77267027Running is painful, do cycling on an exercise bike. I lose 1,200 calories a day doing 90 minutes at max resistance, no problems, but if I walk too far, ouch my knee.
>>77267042Body weight shit like pushups, core, dips and single leg squats to start>>77267070 is a good idea if you're going really cheap, otherwise get a couple kettle bells
>>77267027Like the other anon said switch to low impact cardio especially if your overweight. Your knees are designed for a specific load range and exceeding it will result in injury.
its over, i destroyed my colon
148 lbs, goal weight is 120 lbs. I will banish the fat soon.
>>77267154What height dwarfanon?
>>772671645'8"
>>77267120>>77267140I'm not overweight. My point is that you must run, despite the pain.
>>77267167No, running while fat will destroy your joints.
>>77267167No, fool, avoid injuries. Cycling is literally just better for losing more calories without injuring yourself. Injuries prevent you from exercising.
>>77267166>5'8>120lbsFemboy zeek
What should I eat throughout the day to keep me satiated but not going over my TDEE? I was eating only breakfast and dinner for a while, but that'd always cause a binge relapse, so I figure I need to eat more through the day.
>>77267166Mr skeletal goal physique.
>>77265855I stopped putting my name in the weight loss tracker after joining the contest, losing 2 pounds one week, and then gaining it back.Ironically since March 1st after I declined to put another new alias in there I've lost 22lbs.Anyway, question: has anyone else become more porn averse as they lose weight? I'm still not talking to women so idk why, I've just felt even more disgust at porn. And I just watch female solo stuff anyway I've never liked seeing guys on porn ever since I first started watching it, its the same reason I dont like watching pro sports. Just watching some other dude have all the fun, what's the point in that? I'm getting on a tangent so I'll stop here.
>>77267176>What should I eat throughout the day to keep me satiated but not going over my TDEE?There are two thing you can do, and you can do both at the same time.First, you can eat stuff that fills you but have almost no calories, like non-starch vegetables.Second, you can increase the proportion of protein and good fats, as these are more filling.
>>77267173>>77267179this is my goal physique
>>77267154>>77267166it's not enough. i am still fat at 124 pounds
>>77267182Well your mums last video was pretty good. But what's happening, I think, is that because we're fat, we use porn, camgirls, brothels as a substitute for companionship because we feel we don't deserve it due to our self-loathing caused by our size. So as we get lighter, we change our mental perception slowly, and porn just stops being effective because of its fraudulent nature, because we crave true, genuine companionship
>>77267187Have you attempted to actually exercise or are you just trying to diet your way out of skinnyfat territory?
>>77264777Atkins's prior heart issues to his low-carb, high-fat diet. Dr. Atkins and his medical team maintained his heart conditions (including a 2002 cardiac arrest) were caused by a viral cardiomyopathy, not diet. A leaked medical report later noted a history of heart attack, congestive heart failure, and obesity at the time of his deathAnyways, healthies populations on planet eat low fat, high carb. Billion asians ate only rice, zero obesity, zero diabetse. Once they moved to usa they gain within a generation, it's not geneticsthere are tribes like in new papua new guinea highlanders Studythey eat 90% of their calories from sweet potatos. Carbohydrate 95% of total energy, daily calories avg for the tribe people 2390Perfect blood markets, muscular, healthy super energetic, viral tribe.Ketosis = State of sickness, => lose appetite keto diets are not sustainable, they all gain their weight back. Ldl also goes dangerously high in many cases because of the fat obviously. It's horrendous diet. YWHen you eat high carb low fat you can eat as much as you can, and never gain weight and lose it because carbs burn as heat.So you can eat pasta bolognes, chili con carne, pancaces as much as you want, it's a perfect diet, lose weight and eat tasty foods as much as you wanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJl2c9bCYOcyou can replace meat with very low fat meats, and use less amount for like tomato sauces etc. if you dont want to go vegan, but you will have to eat low fat to lose weight
>>77267187Blud I think you have bird bones or something lmao
>>77267191>or are you just trying to diet your way out of skinnyfat territory?yes. it took cico to its final conclusion
>>77267197CICO doesn't have a final conclusion, tard.If you want to gain mass? CICO.If you want to lose mass? CICO.If you want to keep mass? CICO.
>>77265855Why is my gf not losing weight? She tracks strictly, weighs everything with a kitchen scale and has not lot weight since beginning the diet about 5 weeks ago.She is eating 1400kcal daily, weighs 167lbs and is 5"3 at 30yo and walks around 10k steps daily at her job.I suspect it has to do with her quitting smoking at the same day she started the diet?
>>77267201she is cheating
>>77267197My brother go hit the gym and put on some muscle, you will feel 100x better about your physique. Having no muscle mass is why you never feel you look right despite being almost underweight. It'll fill you out and displace whatever fat you have.
>>77267182>Anyway, question: has anyone else become more porn averse as they lose weight? I'm still not talking to women so idk why, I've just felt even more disgust at porn. Porn is unironically evil, it does a lot of damage to a man's mind and sense of self worth / self esteem. The girls are petite and they use camera / filming trick to make the dudes dick look bigger than it actually is. It's fine to masturbate, but masturbating to porn is not worth it.
>>77267201I feed her every time we fuck
>>77267209i got the big belly genetics
>>77267201Her tdee is ~1700 kcal so at 1400 thats like .5 lbs a week loss. In 5 weeks she should be down ~2.5 lbs. Either she's eating more than she thinks and is hitting her maintenence calories or the mild weight loss she's on track for is going to take a little bit longer to actually show results. A 300 cal deficit is pretty small IMO and it would be pretty easy for someone who isnt experienced in food tracking to accidently go over, or if she's sneaking food a single serving of junk food or one can of soda would pretty much erase her deficit.
>>77267236get her to eat 682 kcal per day or below starting Monday. If she protests just call her fat and tell her how she's gonna die alone suffering from sleep apnea and they won't find her corpse until it dissolves into a big slimey mass eaten up by micro-organisms and rats.
>>77267236i think it's water weight. convince her to do a single day of fasting to see what kind of results she gets and it will encourage her when she sees a big drop
>>77267170Running while fat destroys your fat.>>77267172I did cycle for years. It fucked up my hip just as much as running does. The problem is genetic. My body has literally always been fucked up. I am twisted and deformed. God made me this way. Life is pain. Don't let a little pain get in the way of your goals. I spent years here teaching people that CICO works, keto makes it easier, and now it's time for you to learn how to take it a step further. Pain is my friend. It makes me stronger.
>>77267283>muh geneticsSounds like someone didn't play MGS
I'm done, no more carbs, I'll be dead before consuming another carb.
>>77267296The original MAGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMpuUUV2HeE>>77267301More ketoschizo spam.
>>77267303Ketoschizo has been on a fucking roll lately.
>77267194Beware vegan liars.They seethe uncontrollably about low-carb diets.
>>77267200CICO does have a final conclusion: destroyed metabolism and weight regain.
>>77267301Based. YAGMI.
>77267321It's ketoschizo, he was never fat, he just like to lie a lot.
>>77267317Keto made her an lgbt atheist?
>>77267345It does cause brain damage on long term
>>77265855I'm down 45lb since February 10th. All cico baby, no exercise at all.
>>77267349How much did you originally weight?
>>77267346Looking at the self-replying... It truly does.
>>77267128Does it matter how many i can do? Or just do it?
>>77267349Same, started at 205 in November, 162 now. Eat like shit, frozen pizzas, chips, diet soda. But I keep it under 1500 calories every day without question.
>>77265163Made it to the weekend.
>>77267441If you're planning to have total rest for the weekend - don't. Do some light walking etc. Stay active without straining your body. Overreaching turns into overtraining easily, but total rest might just lower the treshold for that.
>>77265506>Post the source.That's literally a blood test that Baker took willingly and then released to the public himself
>stalled for 2 weeks now even with fasting for 48 hours before weigh in fuck me this is making me feel like shit and go on a binge i hate this shit
>>77267459Reminder you're trying to make sense to this being. Just don't. We all know. We live in reality, not schizo realm of paranoid make belief.
trying to lose this final belly fat
>>77267458I was still planning on going for my morning run with my dog, it'd be cruel to him not to. We've done it everyday for over a year and the little guy gets all excited for it whenever I touch my running shoes.
>>77267477>lyft was never an option>>77267483Read about supercompensation. It's an interesting thing!
>>77267476Literally nothing you just said is coherent or makes any sense.
>>77267484>>lyft was never an optionyes. i am one of those holocaust survivors that keep popping up 70 years later
>>77267483Maybe don't run, try just walking with your dog on the weekends.
>ate potato for the first time in year +>stomach acheaiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee
>>77267487Literally everything makes sense. You're replying to a self-replying ketoschizo.
>>77267490You survived the fat camp. Now it's time luftcamp.
>>77265855LMAO I worked out my body fat percentage using the US Navy formula by taking my waist and neck measurement and recalculated my TDEE and it was 1000 calories lower depending on the formula. Others put my new recalculated TDEE at 1500 calories lower.I'm a smart guy but even I fucked up with this. No wonder so many people fucking suck at losing weight. Wow. Previous TDEE was 5500 calories assuming daily long walks. Current one is just under 4000. Some others put it at 4500. I was eating 3300-3500 thinking I should still get a 4 lb weekly drop.To the other anons calculate your body fat percentage and use sailrabbit.com to work it out correctly.
>>77267512>I'm a smart guy>Previous TDEE was 5500 calories assuming daily long walks.>I was eating 3300-3500 thinking I should still get a 4 lb weekly drop.>I'm a smart guy>I'm a smart guy>I'm a smart guy
>>77267521Yeah I am smart. Not a genius but smarter than average and I completely ignored the body fat percentage field which is listed as optional. Makes a huge difference.
Fatty ContestMostowskiCollapse110.4kg
breaking my 48hr fast halfway through my cardio session with 30cals of cold refreshing kombucha to get me ready for my mealfeels good
>>77267512>TDEE was 5500
>>77267512uh how heavy are u?
>>77267634AI says:Super Active (Professional Athlete/Manual Laborer): ~185 kg (408 lbs). This assumes a high activity multiplier of 1.9 for someone training twice daily or working a grueling physical job.Moderately Active (Daily Exercise): ~245 kg (540 lbs). At a 1.55 multiplier, a person must be significantly heavier to reach this burn rate.Sedentary (Little to No Exercise): ~330 kg (727 lbs). For someone with minimal movement, the body must be exceptionally large to burn 5,500 kcal just to maintain its basic functions and minimal daily movement.
>>77267647lol okay yea ai proving again that it can’t be trustedno way any anon here is 700+ or even 500+
>>77267512>>77267647>I'm a smart guy>AI says
>>77267653That's either a troll or genuine retard
>>77267651>>77267653Yes, the AI took the info from a TDEE calculator. To pipe search it's the easiest way, else be a puritan and never use internet based search for anything.To get ~5500kcal TDEE a 30 yo male'd need to be 5'9 & 6700lb.
>>77267611Is that a selfie? Because only an 800 lb moron would not know the difference between TDEE and BMR.>>77267634460 6'3" >>77267647Which AI is this?My TDEE is based off of me getting 10,000 steps.>>77267653That wasn't me.>>77267660This proves me point. I am smart and totally missed the importance of body fat.You for example are conflating TDEE with BMR. It's so over for the average IQ fat person.
>>77267722>460 6'3"Thats tough anon, howd it get that bad?
>>77267729Undiagnosed sleep apnea -> depression -> genuinely clueless about weight loss + many failed attempts
>460lbsPost body
>>77267735sorry about that, do you have a support system to help you with your weight loss journey?
>>77267741lmao just google it. just fat. still mobile and nimble, and I can walk long distances but just very fat>>77267743not really no. I live by myself.
>>77267747>still mobile and nimblelmao you wish
>>77267750why r u being a dick to the guy
>>77267751lmao you're on 4chan. 80% are dumb, antisocial losers with no accomplishments.
>>77267751He is 460lbs and thinks he is still mobile and nimble. he is an insane person clearly.
>>77267756you're clearly esl
>>77267747wishing you well then, are u in the fatty contest? good way to keep track
>>77267762Hit a nerve did i fatty
>>77267766maybe. thanks anon. good luck to you too.>>77267769you should keep working on your english
>>77267484That is interesting, and I literally never heard of that before in my life. Thanks.>>77267491Little guy loves to run though. Its like the highlight of his day.
>>77267770Fat shit
I can't believe i'm no longer obese. I genuinely thought i would be obese until i die and that it's impossible to lose weight.Now finally with tracking calories and AI to tell me how many calories my various meals are I've managed to lose over 22kg.
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>>77267793can you see your dick yet when you're standing up and look down?
>>77267795Them toes look irritated. You have trouble with ingrown nails?
>>77267799yes its a pain in the ass
>>77267802\>>77267795if you were my bf i'd properly care for your toes for you anon
>>77267797I was never not able to do that. Maybe because I'm tall. Even when I was class 2 obese at 133kg I was able to see my own dick standing up.
Fatty Contestlooxmaxretard200662.6kg
>>77267822I was about to report you for being underage but then realized 2006 means you're 20 years old.Fuck I'm old.
>>77267829its over unc, its time to let go
>>77267822You don't belong here ex-fatty!
>>77267837be nice to the skinny twink
>>77267829That happened to me the other week when some anon talked about jerking it to Harley Quinn in Batman Arkham Knight as his first fap when he was 12. My immediate thought was 'this kid is an underage b&' but being 12 in 2015 makes him 23, and me old as fuck.
Can you build muscle while on a calorie deficit? I'm having trouble going from dieting to weight lifting now after losing weight.
>>77267895>Can you build muscle while on a calorie deficit?No, building muscle requires expending more energy than your base body needs
>>77267898The thought of eating more than 1000 calories a day makes me want to vomit
>>77267901kys
>>77267895Yes**As a novice lifter or roidfag
>>77267895how else are you supposed to get muscleyou just need protein and muscle activation
Fatty Contestogreps93.4kg>lost a few percentage points of bodyfat>think I look kinda lean and alright>check myself in a fitting room in the store>still look unimpressive and not really transformed vs what I was used to see throughout the years>the scheduled end of cut is right behind the corner and I don't feel like prolonging itI mean it was still a successful cut but it was not THE cut that would bring me to the level I want, I guess there will be at least one more cut before I might feel content
>>77266751there was one anon. keep posting until you catch him.
I do insane amount of walking, 40-50k steps a day.I also lowered my caloric intake to 1200 max this week. I use food scales and everything. My TDEE should be like 3500-4000ish?Male, 36, 5'10, 173.8lbs. I lost 1.4lbs this week. I wasn't getting enough protein til this week, I try for 140-150g a day now.Am I likely retaining water from increased protein?My deficit should have had me lose 4-5lbs this week. My pants DO feel noticeably looser despite the small number drop.
>>77268088>40-50k steps a day.Maybe stop being a schizo and just take it easy.
>>77268088and how much do you lift besides that much walking
>>77268088>I do insane amount of walking, 40-50k steps a day.Is this dude trying to larp as a roman legionary? wtf are you doing walking 6~8 hours a day? Isn't that fucking boring?
>>77268093I am trying to hit low 160s by June so I can recomp. I am very impatient. >>77268099None rn, I would injure the fuck out of myself lifting at like a 2500 calorie deficit.My body likely cannot heal for shit rn, only reason I can maintain the steps is because I am extremely well trained on cardio.>>77268103I simply cannot wait, I wanna start recomping in June and look not skinnyfat by mid August.I multitasking. I read webtoons, listen to audio books, watch shows/movies, etc.I just spend the first half of my day in non stop constant movement.
>>77268088>40-50k steps a day>9 hours walk>1200 kcal but only lost 1.4lbs in a weekunconvincing LARP
>>77268115post shoes
>>77268159I've been eating just grilled chicken(weighed raw, minimal oil), protein shakes, and string cheese all week.This is my monthly numbers. Low because I had 1 rest day before this week and haven't got all today's steps.
>>77268168They're still new.
>>77268088don't you get anhedonia if you eat that low of calories? I'm 6'1 and when I lowered to 1350 calories + walking about 20k steps a day I was cold and felt less.
>another 5k calorie Saturdayi cannot help myself, stress is fucking me up
>>77268174My brooks exploded on me, only lasted a few months. They were comfy though.
>>77268186Do you run on sand paper?
>>77268190Nah, that was when I was walking 20k steps everyday.
>>77268178No worse than usual, OMAD has improved my mental clarity and stability too.>>77268186My Ghost 16s held up tread wise awhile.These 17s are holding up well too although I konda wanna try Altras.
>>77268183Stress isn't real
having a "cheat" day for once because i got food thats about to go badsharing all of it between myself my dog and my catso its not the full amount of calories(its alot of chicken)that's all im eating today.it would be about 4k calories, but im only eating half of it since the rest is going to my kitty and my doggy
>>77267391Funny, ketoschizo does self replying and try to pretend it's others who do it.
>>77267722It was gemini>This proves me point. I am smart and totally missed the importance of body fat.You for example are conflating TDEE with BMR. It's so over for the average IQ fat person.No, it's the maintenance calories for a person with TDEE 5500kcal. Not sedentary, activity level 2.
>>77268170I burned 1,600 calories today on an exercise bike in 2 hours. You could be doing this too and it wouldn't take the entire god damn day.
So let me get this straight, you need to not eat and exercise in order to lose weight, but you need to eat to exercise? What kind of fucked up bullshit is that
>>77268349You don't need to exercise to lose weight. All you need to do is eat less and be in a calorie deficit.
>>77268349if you keep your deficit small you'll still have energy to exercisei would recommend that for general health over a larger deficit that lets you lose weight faster but leaves you with too little energy for exerciseand yeah exercise isn't necessary for weight loss but it is necessary for life in general
Does anybody else get depressed, even suicidal, while cutting? I think cutting all these carbs is messing up my brain chemistry or something. This has been a consistent pattern for me over the years and I'm wondering if anyone else can relate
>>77268285>having a "cheat" day for once because i got food thats about to go badi had a cheat day on wednesday and only recovered from it today it must have been all the salt or something because the scale barely moved for 2 days then today i dropped almost 1.5 lbs. also you can just cook the stuff and store it for another 3 days no?
>>77268340Sure you did, you're a very special big boy and we all think you're really cool.
>>77268357You just sound like a bitch
>>77268358Actually an interesting thing: expiration date is absolute, even if you cook it. But rarely the item actually expires that day.
>>77268357For me its either low fats or really low calorie, if I go under like 10% fats or like 1000kcal I get depressed, you're probably nuking your T levels. Try doing at an absolute minimum 1500kcal with 30% of that coming from fat and see if mood improves.
>>77268358My fridge is broken and I'm too poor to replace it right nowAlso I'm fasting for 26 hours since I ate off my normal eating schedule today ( I normally eat at 1pm-8pm)And I'm doing my daily 2-3 hours of walking, so I'm not afraid of really gaining anything thankfully>time to take a nap
>>77268373My maintenance is about 1500, so unfortunately it is necessary for me to eat lower than that in order to lose weight, which makes excess fat consumption an unappealing idea
>>77268331Yeah well I am at 4500 kcal now for my TDEE with 10k steps when accounting for BF%. 5500 cal was what the TDEE calc gave me without putting in my body fat. It probably assumed I was 460 at 25% body fat lol.>>77268088Are you retarded or just trying to wreck your body? Your TDEE is like 2000, more like 2700 probably. You could eat 2500 calories low fat high protein like 200g and get 20k steps in a day, prioritize sleep and lose 3 lbs or more of pure fat a week and be done in 5 weeks.
>>77268373Low fat does not nuke your T or hormones. You are just undereating.
>>77268402Nah, I was doing like 8~10% fat at 1500kcal and it got me super depressed, adjusting my macros so that fats made up ~30% fixed it. I don't recommend going under ~30% of your calories coming from fats if you can help it.
>>77268408yeah 1500 kcal is low calories. And there is a 'metabolic advantage' when going low fat or low carb that lets you get away with an extra 200 to 300 calories. That being said whatever helps get the weight off.
>>77268183Stop eating carbs and your hunger will go away.
>>77268449But they taste good and make me happy
>>77268467Let protein makes your muscles happy.
>>77268472>rabbit starving faggot with renal disease tries to go on a run with 100% protein dietImmersion: gone.
One week before vacation, what do I do to make sure I'm not bloated and holding excess water?
>>77268472That homo doesn't deserve her
>>77268485Lower your sodium somewhat, or make sure you sweat out a lot. Sauna if you can, cardio you must. No "white carbs", no excess carbs (pasta/bread/any sort of filth), celibacy and hormonal balance helps, get some fats, intake high quality protons at consistent intervals, no pump workouts to reduce inflammation (greese the groove is ok), eat fruits and fiber.
>>77268472>aaaah I'm roooning
>>77268359Idiot. It's easy. 800 calories for one hour, break for a few hours, then another 800 calories. You've never used an exercise bike in your life.
>>77268472>>77268483>>77268507
>>77268495> No "white carbs", no excess carbs (pasta/bread/any sort of filth)> celibacy> get some fats> intake high quality proteinfacebook tier advice
>>77267477You mean your organs?
>>77268541you've never had a BMI below 20 have you?
>>77268536And you offered 0 advice. Curious.
Fatty ContestLeanAndStrong81.55kg
>>77268545No, I'm a grown man
>>77268489You need a body like Brad Pitt in Fight Club and a face like a K-pop star to pull a girl like that. She won't settle for anything less. In other words, she gets what she fucking deserved.
would yall rather be fat fat or skinnyfat?
>>77268599>in fat loss thread>would you rather be fat orOr. Always or.
>>77268599skinnyfat you mongoloid
>>77268607>>77268605Skinnyfat is worse socially speaking though
>>77268609
>>77268609Socially speaking you should never post again
>>77268609Time to go on a slop diet for a few years to experience the fat fat side of life. Come back when you're dropping from 400lb to 1xx and tell us about how bad skinnyfat is socially
Fatty ContestJacKingOf203.8lbs6'0"Getting a stomach bug is S tier weight loss advice, you shit liquid and eat 300-500 calories less a day because you're afraid of both shitting yourself and/or vomiting
>>77268638Ayahuasca diet is ok. Fasting keeps the muscles safe, you don't break your muscles from just laying around. An added plus is you find God and forget why you ever ate slop to begin with.
>tfw one hole tighter on the lifting belt
>>77268652You're letting your bracing gains escape you!
>>77267477Ho Lee FukHow much do you weigh? BMI?
>>77268654the belt prevents my farts from escaping so I can rip open during the last rep and propel myself to new personal records
>>77267477HOT
>>77268622>>77268612>>77268623Fat guys have funny fat aura and some women like the size difference.When you’re skinnyfat you just end up looking like a chester like Jet Neptune. No woman is into that. There’s a reason it’s called skinnyfat hell.
>>77268701So trolling. Got it, thanks
I keep hearing that if I fast for a week I won't lose much fat just water weight but what happens if I've already been in a deficit for 6 months and down 40lbs so my body is kinda used to it
>>77268357i have a friend that cuts before shows and he's the most depressed and irritable person everi always genuinely worry about him and wish he'd stop competing at those timesafter the show going out to eat is always the best and he comes back to life and is like his normal self againso no, i'd say you're not alone
Fatty ContestAwooga173.6lbsYay I'm back to where I was....why does this month have to have so many cake parties
>>77268357Yeah. Feel like acking myself daily while fasting
>>77268357It’s normal to feel like shit when depriving yourself of a balance diet to counter overindulgence in the past. Lowest bmi countries in the world eat carbs and sweets daily, just not in excess
>>77267441Why does the app say 634 but the display says 999
>>77268285That sounds really nice anon
>>77268485Increase hydration, cut back on hard to digest foods and sodium
I wonder which fad diet the SylveonXGlaceon kid is on now. He just loves being obese class III so much.>>77268829Both are propably overestimating.
>>77268838You didn't answer the question
>>77268838I too am curious when’s his next episode
>>77268840Both are using estimation algorithms, which have been known to overestimate. Since they're different machines they use different datapoint algorithms.
Fatty ContestAlbanoid91kgVery long hiatus. If i wont make it this time its over
>>77268707you will lose more water weight than fat, and then when you resume your usual more modest deficit you'll stall out for a while while your body replenishes the water weight
>random heart palpatations all dayi really should sleep more
https://youtu.be/CH6LFYHvD5g?is=DGYvOl6Y7B7mVdlQThis was posted in /fph/, a nice watch for people over here as well
>Weight in the morning: 216>Go out for the day with my brother, have a good amount of food and drink at an asian food festival>Step on scale with clothes on >223Clothes, food and drink couldn't possibly be 7 pounds...
>>77268963Food 2lb, clothes 2lb, drink 3lb. Easy peasy.
>>77268963>Clothes, food and drink couldn't possibly be 7 pounds...it totally could. and if you at asian food it probably had a decent amount of salt/MSG in it so you're retaining more water. I'm not really sure what the point of comparing after eating and also wearing clothes is though anyway
>>77268963dw about it bro, just salt water etc. get back to clean eating and your exercises and it'll clear up in a day or two.
>>77268905please do anonprioritise your health>>77268934i've been watching this! it's greati like the host's voice and manner of speaking etc. seems like a gentleman and not annoying or reactivewoke up 1.4 lb down today :)
>>77268969>>77268974>>77268973That's true, I didn't think about the salt and MSG. I will say, we tried some grilled squid and I dunno what was in the seasoning on it but goddamn that was some of the best squid I've ever had> I'm not really sure what the point of comparing after eating and also wearing clothes is though anyway.I dunno, I just like to do it at the end of the day so when I weigh in the next morning I can get an idea of how much of the end weight was just food and water.
so hungy its not fair bros why did i let this happen to myself why didn't i stop it
>>77268985grilled squid is fucking deliciousi get it at izakaya type shops小酒馆 for chineseit's like crack i totally get it brobuh i want some now...>>77268996you're stopping it now and that's what mattersstay strong homie
>>77265956I mean, 'unlimited' calories' and 'sedentary in the case of my mom is 70% carbs but 1000 kcal. She's effortlessly BMI 14s. She just can't stomach foodMeanwhile I look like pic rel while fighting witth every fiber of my bean on keto
>>77268999>it's like crack i totally get it broYeah it was insane.We got two mini ones to share, thinking we'd just try it and be like "that was good, on to the next booth."Nah, we regretted not getting big ones for each of us. So good.Made us glad that our uncle's new wife is Chinese and always wants to host dinners - we know what to request next time.
New thread >>77269013New thread >>77269013
>>77268701I genuinely believe that you believe this, so I assume that you must be a time traveler from the 90s when this was still somewhat true.DON'T LET OJ GO FREE. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW BAD THINGS WILL GET.
>>77267351300lb. Also 6'4
>>77268850Ahh OK sorry
>>77268905Don't gamble with your health, man. Get some sleep. Take a sleep aid if you need to. Take care.
