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>ruins all of your progress
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>is an egolifting retard
>gets punished for it
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First I had it in my right shoulder but it healed after a year or so. Now it's in the left shoulder and I seriously hope it heals eventually. If not then fuck everything in the ass.
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>>77266097
>>77266108
>>77266111
shoulders love weighted hi hitla - rubber hooked low and you extend arm in roman salute into that resistance and then push shoulder farther forward until u feel pec relaxing
>and?
and stay there, you can wiggle up and down a bit
just did it, awesome delt pump and zero shoulder discomfort, in actuality i have no clue why it works but it does
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>>77266108
I got 3 plate but was punished with a painful shoulder. Thankfully the BPC im using for it is helping
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>>77266097
Seriously I need the answer to this fucking shit because it has ruined me. I've tried different exercises and keep hurting it again. Is it possible there's like some smoll muscle attached to one of the bigger ones that is making this such a trial to overcome?
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>>77266097
Weighted dips tore my cuff three years ago and it took two years to heal.

I will never walk that razor's edge again. If it's dangerous with weight, just rep it out. Couldn't imagine slipping a disc with deadlifts or something.
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When will formlets learn?
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>>77266097
Dealing with that right now. Mine only hurts when I press upward with my left arm, or raise it in front of my like a lefthanded nazi.

I took a rdv with my physio, but after years of rugby and army shit, I've dealt with it before. You gotta rest it sure, but what really helps I find is blasting rear delts and other external rotators. I'm talking your Jeff certified face pulls, rear flys with thumbs upward, stuff like that. My program (that I wrote myself) was extremely front/push dominant, but now I'll add as much focus on the rear upper body.

I would do band facepulls to warm up, but never trained them as an exercise. With time I was warming up my shoulders but never evened out front and back, leading to imbalances.
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>>77266220
I do weighted dips a lot, but on rings. Feels much better.
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>>77266097
Im trying to narrow down what could possibly be causing pain in both my shoulders. I recently started gymming more frequently and alot more volume. I think its going too deep when benching with db's but they just feel sort of weak and overused the on off days. Pain in the ass
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>>77266326
Drop your volume and add extra rest days.
You're gonna build zero muscle injured.
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>>77266291
Not OP, but I'm dealing with a rotator cuff injury right now and I'm pretty sure its ring dips that fucked it up.
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>>77266353
I'm
>>77266290

I think I just got inflammation and not necessarily a rip anywhere. Mine I feel like started when I was hitting OHP PRs week after week. I can even so bw dips in my current state and feel no pain.

Luv me dips. Gotta properly engage the scapula though. I think mine is imbalance related. This morning i switched up my routine and only hit rear delts/back/upper traps and felt generally no pain today.
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>>77266158
>actuality i have no clue
there it is
bottoto poster finally admits it
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>Cuban rotations
>Cable external rotations
>Cable Egyptian Y raises
Congrats your rotator cuffs are now strong
>Dowel Dislocates
>Scapular Pushups
>Butchers Block
>Scapular Wall Slides
>Active Hinges
Congrats your shoulders are now mobile
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>>77266097
>Not doing shoulder pulls and lying cuff rotations
Newfag
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>>77266996
I dont know what any of that means
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>>77267030
It's wrong about egyptian y raises, because they're an exercise I made up to get the benefits of egyptian lateral raises (forces correct form) but with a y raise to hit the lateral delt and lower trap, plus forcing rotator cuff engagement as the shoulder is maximally externally rotated at the top.
All the other exercises/stretches are bog standard shoulder work
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>>77266097
Bro I tore my supraspinatus out entirely. I was in denial after I did it and just tried to rehab for a few months. Now I need surgery and they'll probably have to screw in straps to my bones because the tendon has certainly receded.

I can only do flat swiss bar bench (shoulders pinned back), flat flies, and lateral raised for push and delts and I'm grateful for that.

This was years ago. Im retarded.
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>>77266634
>>actuality i have no clue
>there it is
>bottoto poster finally admits it
>>77266158
>shoulders love weighted hi hitla - rubber hooked low and you extend arm in roman salute into that resistance and then push shoulder farther forward until u feel pec relaxing
>>and?
>and stay there, you can wiggle up and down a bit
>just did it, awesome delt pump and zero shoulder discomfort, in actuality i have no clue why it works but it does

do you know bot? why if i push forward and up past the point where pec is flexed (at full extension pecs relaxes as if different pair of opposing muscle held scapula stable and i think it's mid upper traps and serratus instead of pecs and rhomboids with less shoulder protraction/elevation)
because if if you do know am all ears :D

i did that and mobility https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dymjPBikMnw and biceps
>you can't do biceps, regular curls don't do biceps human, it's all tendon torture and forearm abuse
i know that bot, i do 2 variants:
long head lying on the side with blanket under upper arm rubber hooked low and on wrist, less than 90 degs flexion in shoulder, i'd say like 60 (was doing 90 before it's too high) and just undulate there - i gotta adjust torso angle (loke whole body in relation to rubber) to make it feel nice, it's good to focus on elbow pressing on padding, and i'm actually reaching around with other arm over the working arm to press on floor
short is doing pecs as well: standing pull from the side and slightly below, actually both of em can be done from same anchor point depending on the lenght of the rope that rubber is attached to - just pull from the side standing sideways with bent elbow, angle stance where i feel biceps more than pecs

u'll be pleased bot that my left rhomboid got better between yesterday and noe :D
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I’ve been lifting for 16 years and now bench well above 3pl and never had any shoulder pain, wrist or elbow pain
Some people just have shitty genetics
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>>77267174
How the fuck did you do that? Also how do they image it and whatnot in surgery? Is there any part of it left or has another tendon/mechanism of your movement that has replaced your supraspinatus?
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>>77266097
>he fell for the bench press meme

Many such cases
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>>77267615
Genetics yes, but exercise selection as well.

If I could go back in time I would simply not do BTN presses and ring dips
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>>77266097
Had a rotator cuff injury 3 weeks ago
Still cant even do a pushup
Is it over for me, bros?
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>>77267603
post body
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>>77266097
If I have slight pain in both shoulders (no pain when lifting its always next morning) what should I be doing ? Do I need to completely stop lifting for a couple weeks? Low weight high reps? Slow reps? What exercises to skip? The pain happens when I raise my arms straight out and above shoulder height. It almost feels like they are loose or out of socket or something

I think its from going too deep when benching with db's or possibly dips
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>>77266097
I tore my shit while bouldering (overshot a dyno but still reflexively grabbed the hold with one hand). It fixed itself after like 2 weeks of skipping lateral raises.
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>>77266097
I can't really do horizontal pushing, but I'm fine doing dips or overhead presses. Horizontal pulling just gives me subtle pain later on. Is this a rotator cuff issue? Because I feel like my collarbone is fucked or smth
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>>77267627
I was a big fat drunk and unhealthy and I was flat benching 245 trying to go for my normal 6-8 reps I did when I was younger. girl friend was spotting me so my fragility was witnessed. I felt the shit completely tear out. I played football all the way to D1 college (for part of a season, as a walk on at Oregon), and wrestled at a high level in high school. I had never truly torn anything because I was durable and lucky. This was narly.

MRI, full tear, or mostly full. completely fucked.

so if my thumbs are up I'm OK. once I face my palms down I can't do shit. some how I can position myself, tighten my traps, and thankfully do lateral raises to hit my delts.

Fly are OK with some pain

Swiss bar bench is the same. I just need to pinch my shoulder blades back and make sure there's no rotator cuff at all. I do like 230 lbs for 5 or 6 since I've been in a deficit for over a year because of alcoholic fatty. I'm down like 102 lbs and looking sexy.

I went through a period where I attempted DYEL arched back light swiss bar military just to hit it, but as you can imagine I had to abandon that bullshit charade

Apparently there still might be options to re-attach the tendon. I just need to move forward with the shit.



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