Anyone else tired of the low intensity cardio meme? There's an entire field of fitness influencers and HITfags trying to convince you to NOT actually run or jog anymore because it will drop your testosterone and make you lose muscle
>>77270851>if you go on a brisk walk at a speaking pace you will burn more fat because your body will use fat instead of carbsLow intensity cardio fags are all either lazy fatties or genetically inferior trannies
>>77270851Walking is natural and optimal for humansSprinting is anabolicRunning/jogging is catabolic and cancerous. No runner looks good or healthy
I do both and so should you
>>77270851It's HIIT I keep seeing you make this mistake for what's probably 8 months now so get it straight. HIT =/= HIITHIT is a form of low volume resistance training.HIIT is a form of cardio the second I is for interval.All competent cardio regiments will have some amount of both hiit and steady state. Hiit being used primarily to increase speed and vo2 max and steady state being used mostly to increase thresholds, endurance and pad your training between hiit to prevent backsliding. Because cardio adaptations are extremely fickle and you can lose most of them over the course of 2 weeks if you stop doing it. So doing something between hiit sessions makes sure you're advancing instead of spending half your cardio reclaiming lost ground.
>>77270865>Run or sprintUses glycogen stores>WalkFat stores Basically how it works
>>77271129True
>>77270865Fighters have a better physique than any power lifter. Divers have the absolute peak bodies
ITT: fat niggas who have never been lean in their life try to cope by claiming that running is actually bad for youalso walking isn't exercise unless you're fat as fuck. it goes in the same category as burning calories from doing chores around the house
>>77271605its bad for ur joints if u do it on concrete
is it good for your heart rate? It doesn't matter unless it improves your RHR
>>77270851Brisk pace walking is better. I walk for a couple hours on my off days and try to get in at least an hour or two on my lifting days. Just put in earbuds and walk somewhere in the city you haven’t been before
>>77271670what a faggot
>>77270851I think the main issue with low intensity cardio is just that it's a massive time sink. HIIT is efficient and works well, but for me, it does cause quite some fatigue. Personally, i mostly alternate, and low intensity cardio can also be good for recovery.
>>77271989your dad?agreed
>>77270872Sprinting goodRunning goodWalking good
>>77270851Let me guess you changed every word in the ashtak records to nigger
>>77271997not really you just kinda stand all day walk on a treadmill going somewhere? walk? you can do basically do anything walking
>>77270851From my experience in the military, fighting sports, outdoor shit, etc. the dudes who don't put in LISS are fucking useless. They can engage in sporadic feats of strength, they can be fast in short bursts, but they wear out quick and become more and more of a liability as the day goes on. If you only work out for aesthetics, or just to waddle up to a heavy bar and pick it up once, feel free to ignore endurance work. But if you want to be functional in any real physical tasks that go longer than a hal hour, you meed to get your conditioning work in.
>>77271159Yeah bro look how much the fighter is mogging the powershitter, powershitter doesn't even look like he lifts right bro
>>77271605This. Walking is not cardio, it's NEET. I swear the fat fucks on this board only say running is bad because they would literally have a heart attack if they tried running half a fucking mile.Walking is not challenging to anyone at a healthy bodyweight, it can only be considered real exercise if you're severely overweight or severely underweight, barring more extreme cases like 9+ hours of hiking.
>>77271605>cope by claiming that running is actually bad for youIt isYou cant even disprove it. Look at you throwing insults
>>77272669the worst thing about this shit is it's time consuminglifting consumes some time, some hiit on top is also time/energy draining, adding solid liss seems nearly impossible unless you're so passionate you're ok with working out every damn day
Walking is so much better.
>>77272739walking is a waste of time unless ur an obese lard ass with a resting heart rate of 90 bpm which You probably are.
>>77272742Cope, I bet you're 130lbs and bench sub 2pl8
Incline walking is the GOAT cardio. Can actually get you into a decent HR zone, burns a shit load of calories (mostly fat), and not as harmful on the joints as running. There is also something to be said about the psychological aspect. It's way easier to just go for a walk then to psych yourself up for some 10 mile run or some shit. But honestly who gives a shit as long as you're doing cardio
>>77272738Oh it 100% is, and you need to have a generalist mindset toward fitness, rather than a specialist one if you want to build a good endurance base. Personally, Ive found a few approaches that work well for me;1) Building a good endurance base with a month or two with a lot of running, then just doing a long run once every couple weeks to maintain. if you feel like your conditioning is getting shitty, do another endurance block. 2) Seasonal conditioning cycle. Summer and Fall are great where I live, Winter and Spring usually usually have sloppy weather. Thus, I do outdoor endurance conditioning in the nicer months, indoor HIIT focus in the miserable weather time of year. It might not be optimal for someone pursuing a specific fitness goal, but for a generalist like me, it works great.
>>77272765>There is also something to be said about the psychological aspect. It's way easier to just go for a walk then to psych yourself up for some 10 mile run or some shit.I agree, but I look at that from a different perspective. Forcing yourself to develop that mental discipline is a vital part of the process.
>>77272900Sure man, but not everyone is running marathons and has the discipline to run every day. At some point, just moving and burning some calories is a much superior alternative to doing nothing, or worse, succumbing to other vices (food, drugs, etc). Just fucking move
>>77272655I can't type and move a mouse well while walking. Can't really use my hands/tools and solder and shit either. Are the people who talk about doing it while working actually just talking on the phone and email all day, or am physically retarded?And I can't even walk while doing dishes or folding laundry or other non-work stuff :(
>>77271605>>77272718>>77272742You dont walk bc its hard, you do it because it burns fat with zero effort. 30 mins run, 400 calories burned of which 70% are carbs. 2 hours walk 600 cals, 70% fat.At one point i could run a 5 mins mile, but i dont run anymore. Onlly daily Walking and the occasional sprints for tii fibers
>>77270851for bodybuilding like ppl with hypertrophy as their long term ideal it makes sense not to jam up their feet, back, and hips by doing hours of running on top of gym work..makes sense to me anonif i wasn't trying to get quicker than my mates over middle and long distance i'd probably do swimming and airbike or elliptical 1 hour 3-4x per week while listening to something or literally phoning it in
>>77273144I do agree with you. Just moving is a lot better than being sedentary. I just like to keep in mind that this is a mental game as well as a physical one.
>>77273218>You dont walk bc its hard, you do it because it burns fat with zero effort. 30 mins run, 400 calories burned of which 70% are carbs. 2 hours walk 600 cals, 70% fat.>At one point i could run a 5 mins mile, but i dont run anymore. Onlly daily Walking and the occasional sprints for tii fibersThis guy gets it.
>>77270851zone 2 cardio has been debunked since the 90seven if zone 2 cardio increases the % of calories burned from fatyou will burn more fat doing intense cardio because the total amount of calories burned is much high example incline walks: 600 calories burned, 60% of it being fat = 360 cal/fat sprinting session: 1300 calories burned, 40% of it being fat = 520 ca/fat so the higher intensity cardio still burns more fat
>>77270851If you hypothetically ran 30 minutes a day your lifts would all go down, and much more than that is just starting a whole gay ass system including lowering your testosterone to be a better endurance athlete. How about you go run half of what some of these psychos do like 10 miles every other day then use science words to try and convince me of a lie.
>>77273218>2 hours walkLike the one guy said: NEET.Who the fuck has time to go for a 2 hour walk every day.
>>77270872Correct./thread
>>77273218> Burn le fat not le carbsYour bodyweight is CICO, retard
>>77273218what does it matter whether the fat u burn is during cardio or the other 22 hours of the day where u arent doing cardio ?
> run 40-50 miles per week and lift 4 days a week. Average at both (4 plate deadlift and 22 min 5k).I would be better at running if I stopped lifting, and I would be much better at lifting if I stopped running. Running is catabolic (look at what really good runners look like). Lifting does not seem to harm my running the same way running impacts my liftingI exercise for fun, challenge, general capability and longevity. So I'm OK with the tradeoffs of splitting my focus. Most people here lift purely for aesthetics (and wouldn't even lift if they could get the look without it) so expect a laundry list of why running is bad.
>>77273777Nah you'd still be about the same you're not ambitious at either and don't know how to sequence training to preserve on one while growing in the other. You're not approaching catabolism without 45+ minutes of running at or above 80% of your max hr.
>>77273816You don't run 50 miles a week doing 30 min jogs
>>77273844I could easily run that. I jog 9 miles an hour. I'd be at ~53 miles a week if I did that. Being sane I choose to sequence and vary my training rather than trying to force linear increases onto it. I wouldn't even be able to run a 18 minute 5k if I didn't make time for speed work.
Sorry i misread i thought you said 50 minute jogs.You're telling me you run 14 miles an hour ~4 minute miles for a half hour every day and have a 22 minute 5k? Shouldn't it be like 15 minutes?
>>77273862You seem to be mentally retarded. You probably should not use the internet.
>>77273874So you run slower than doing 2 30 minute jogs a day, lift less than me and I'm supposed take your word that you have some superior insight into human anatomy?
>>77270851They're probably not increasing how many calories they consume after doing cardio and catabolysing themselves.
