>no snacks
D:

Is the paper towel effect real?

>>77294724
Yes, it's a natural conclusion of how mass relate to volume. Didn't know it had a meme name.

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sheesh, it seems brazilfats
hate fatties so much its' unreal

For nearly a year I’ve minimized my intake of sugar and artificial sweeteners. Now plain yogurt that most people would compare to sour cream tastes so sweet despite having only a few grams of sugar per cup.

>>77294785
This effect is very nice, do you know the same goes for fat?

I just lost on my lottery ticket. No $1000 per week for life for me....

At least I have my calorie deficit instead...

>>77294813
not being a fatass is better than winning the lottery. having both would be nice though

I must confess, brothers, my goal for getting in shape is so big girls will let me hit.
I don't find skinny chicks hot, yet big girls don't like big guys.
God is cruel.

>>77294831
>I don't find skinny chicks hot, yet big girls don't like big guys.
This is not true. Girls of any body type generally prefer fit, well looking guys. Fat chicks settle for fat guys because this is the best they can get.

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>>77294644
>This Anon is doing Brazilian wrong.
Rice with sardines or tune are a quite common dish.

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>>77294835

>>77294857
Fucking kek

>Lose from 225 down to 175
>Start working out regularly
>suddenly start getting lots of looks from girls
Was it really that easy?
165 on the horizon.

>>77294862
>Was it really that easy?
Yes, wait to see if you get an above average physic.

>>77294865
I can't believe I wasted 32 years being fat.

>>77294867
At least you didn't waste your entire life, like +80% of the people here do.

>>77294867
Don't get too mesmerized by the vegana creature validation. It's nice, but your own validation is the monkwizardsatanist_666 thing. Pleasure yourself while watching yourself in the mirror. Strive to clone yourself just for voodoosodomy.

guys i just found the ultimate cheat code for losing weight
so what you do is you skip breakfast
eat like 6 boiled eggs for lunch
feel full the rest of the day
easy deficit desu

>>77294871
I keep forgetting how gay this board is

>>77294874
I try my best to remind you, fren. But there's actually nothing gay with self-love.

>>77294872
I'd have to eat around 12+12 to keep full. Might try it.

Some days my protein goal feels impossible, man.
It's definitely because of the sema making me not hungry but the idea of needing to get 160g when I can barely stomach 1500kcal is hard.

>>77294885
Chicken breast.

>>77294887
>Google the protein of a chicken breast
>43g for 140g
wtf I'm an idiot I've been wasting all this money on BEEF

>>77294799
>the same goes for fat?
elaborate

Fatty Contest
Fatwicker
212.2 lbs

Finally at a new low.

Help me out bros, I'm kind of an idiot. I'm 265 with a goal weight of 180. How much protein should I be eating in terms of grams

>>77295004
265g. you can lower it to match your weight as you go down.

>>77295006
That seems so fucking intimidating, desu.

>>77295017
protein is very satiating compared to its amount. the more protein you eat, the less you eat of the other 2 useless macros.

>>77295004
Do 1g per pound of lean mass. You will need to estimate your body fat percent. Fat mass doesn't need protein like lean mass does. You don't need 265 grams per day, that could blow your kidneys out LOL.

>>77294977
When you stop eating fats, for some reason, after some time everything with even a bit of fat feels incredibly smooth and buttery.

>>77295004
>Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
180lbs is your goal, so you want 180lbs*0.72g = 129.6g so about 130g of protein.

>>77294874
This entire website is gay af. But honestly, taking the bi pill is worth it. You get pussy with women and frotting with dudes, anal sex isn't worth it.

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31
226 pounds
5’11

Looking to join the military so i got to get in shape. Started my strict dieting. I realize with food, the feeling I chase after is feeling stuffed. Not so much food being tasty. I treated everyday like a mini feast. One feast a day. Sometimes multiple meals being a feast. I like to eat until I am bloated and laying down, ready to nap.
There have been days where I eat until I fall asleep, wake up, eat until I fall asleep again. If left uncontrolled I will loop on that, and I cant even play much video games or watch TV since I eat myself to sleep.

Now with my diet, it feels like every meal is just shy of being satisfying. Eating just enough until before it becomes fun.

I miss that stuffing feeling. But it also does feel better to eat light meals, I dont have to nap after a meal. And can actually do stuff.
Pic unrelated

>>77295004
Using metric greatly helped me with the math, but you should calculate how much of your body mass is fat, see how much your body weight without fat and then go for around 0.71g per pound.

>>77295037
The body adapts, you'll feel full with far less after some time.

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>>77292870

>>77295040
>you'll feel full with far less after some time.
This never happened for me. I simply just live in a constant state hunger and expect meals never to satisfy me.

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>lost weight
>still have chest pain
There's something really wrong with me isn't there

>>77295088
You should probably see your doctor about that, yeah.

>>77295102
I'm American and don't have insurance
It's over

>>77295072
how much protein do you eat?

>>77295116
Today was 169g of protein on a 1500kcal budget, of which I spent ~1449kcal according to my count.

676kcal/1449kcal protein so ~47% of my daily calories.
33g of fats ~297kcal so ~20% of my daily calories.
119g of carbs ~476kcal ~33% of my daily calories.

>>77294679
>start diet again
>1700-1800 calories a day easy, 4 days in a row
>day 5: absolutely no energy, massive craving for food, cortisol spikes like crazy. end up binging end of day and eating 2600
nope not doing this again. i'm ordering glp-1. i don't give a fuck. my body is totally retarded

>>77295194
have you tried going for more protein?>>77295205
good luck!

>>77295194
Strictly speaking each gram of the protein can be used to build muscle or be burned as calories, but not both. Does it make sense to count the protein that is used for muscle against your calories?

>black poop
it's over go on without me fellow /fat/ties...

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>mfw don't eat sloppa, exercise, count calories
>beer belly bigger than this nigger
its not fair bros. I should just an hero

>>77295278
>beer belly
Have you considered not drinking beer?

>>77295301
I don't drink at all. Nada.
Well, I had some champagne on my 36 birthday 4 days ago but yeah i weigh less than that cunt, but bigger belly.

>>77295309
He lost the weight
You can too

>>77295319
He lost more weight than i weighed at my heaviest. I will lose the weight though. and i'll be healthy weight this year. I didn't come this far to give up now. Just, man, why does my belly have to be bigger than this fat cunt when he lost more weight than I weigh in total now, today. Genetics? I appreciate the support though.

>>77295335
you can't choose where fat is stored. at least partly genetic.
he took GLPshit to lose the weight. you can take them too.

>>77295335
Fat distribution does weird shit
He's also a manlet so maybe that's making him different too

>>77295335
>>77295347
Nevermind
He's 6'0
Maybe you're a manlet and shit looks weird cause of it lol

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>>77294679
OMAD has been pretty chill these past 2-3 weeks and I think doing this for a few more months shouldn't be a problem.

I have been experimenting with different ingredients (gnocchi, tuna, veggies, etc.) to come up with a fairly nutritious meal that lets me throw everything into a slow cooker for two and a half hours and be done with it.

Settling on:
300g chicken breast
350g broccoli (that stuff is FILLING)
250g kidney beans (partially blended to make it creamier)
250g frozen spinach
200ml store bought basilico sauce
100ml chicken broth
garlic, chili flakes, paprika for seasoning

While the end product looks like putrid slop it tastes great and most importantly: solid macros (~800kcal, ~105g protein) and I don't think about food for another 24h because I'm full.

Having 200g skyr with 20g crushed kitkat before workouts and afterwards my slop meal with a reese's whey protein shake.

Which ultimately results in ~1200kcal and ~150g protein within a 3h window.

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>>77295072
>>77295037
NTA but what helped me was "attempting" multiple extended fasts over the course of a month earlier this year. Went from 3 days to 4 days to 7 days and after accepting that this wasn't gonna be "the way", I also noticed that I was feeling satiated/full a lot faster than I used to.

From what little I've read up on it has less to do with your stomach actually shrinking but rather your hormones responsible for appetite and hunger being re-regulated or reset. I would obviously advise doing retarded shit like that and maybe it's just placebo but worth looking into.

>>77295037
>joining the military at 31
Now why in the ever loving fuck would you do that?

>>77295263
The thermic effect of protein means less of the calories become available for either of those uses, but the body temperature raise means your BMR lowers (or in really hot areas rises to cool you off). There are so many variables to it. Essential amino acids all have a different potential function in the body, and since our bodies are quite efficient with them they might break down the chains, use a part here and there & still have the carbon skeleton left over for energy. "Protein" is just a group of different amino chains, all with a variety of functions.

>>77295377
OMAD feels like a cheat code

>>77295205
If you can't handle the shock of going to 1800 kcal/day directly, go to 2200, then 2000, then 1800... it's weak, but it works.

>>77295377
I'd tweak the green veggies a bit. They're good, but overcooking might destroy the vitamins they have. Broccoli starts losing its' shit after a few minutes etc. Colorful veggies actually gain more antioxidants from cooking.

>>77295377
>300g chicken breast
>350g broccoli (that stuff is FILLING)
>250g kidney beans (partially blended to make it creamier)
>250g frozen spinach
>200ml store bought basilico sauce
>100ml chicken broth
>garlic, chili flakes, paprika for seasoning
I'm used to reading weird ass, desperate diets, it's refreshing to read something healthy and good.

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Dropped 1.7kg in one day. Not even beginning water loss, have been dieting for three weeks.

>>77295466
1.7 kg = 13090 kcal lost, yeah

>>77295467
Not calories just shit.

>>77295473
I've heard of elite swimmers expending 12000 kcal in a day, but I've never heard of a man shitting 2 kg. Such a feat.

>>77295442
>Specific dynamic action (SDA), also known as thermic effect of food (TEF) or dietary induced thermogenesis (DIT), is the amount of energy expenditure above the basal metabolic rate due to the cost of processing food for use and storage.
So wait, I can eat something that will actually burn me calories just to process it? Like why aren't I icewatermaxxing all day? What's the thermic effect of a gallon of (0 °C) ice water?

>>77295481
>So wait, I can eat something that will actually burn me calories just to process it?
You can drink cold water, but only if you get to shiver from cold you'll be burning more than 10 - 20 calories a day. Extremely unpleasant, but a whole day shiver will set your TDEE to +7000

>>77295457
The overcooking IS something I have considered and I looked into it. Biggest losses would potentially be Vitamin C and Folate (B9) alongside antioxidants although for the former two I am already popping a small multivitamin with some omega-3 capsules as well.

And I'll be completely honest, while I am aware of the benefits of antioxidants on a surface level, I don't want to personally obsess over it and will likely just throw in the veggies near the end.

That being said, it got me curious and there are apparently ways to "restore" for example sulforaphane that is lost when overcooking broccoli and is responsible for stimulating the body's own antioxidant defense system simply by adding some raw mustard or radish into the dish since they contain an enzyme called myrosinase that aids in sulforaphane restoration. Lots of weird rabbitholes to get into.

>>77295481
One gallon is 3.78541178 liters, 1kcal is the amount of energy used to heat a liter of water by 1°c.
Not counting for the other variables (aerodynamics of the lobster) you spend around 140kcal heating it up in your localized jenkem production facility.

>>77295505
This is assuming his body exists in a vacuum. If it's 21º C outside that 0º C water will get heated to 21º C without a single calorie expent.

fatty contest
MT_FATSO
102.7kg
176cm

>>77295508
>If it's 21º C outside that 0º C water will get heated to 21º C without a single calorie expent.
WRONG. The body would heat up fast in an attempt to fight the shock & heat the water. After a while his body temp would overheat a bit, which in turn would again stress the body (sweating, high heart rate) and raise BMR.

>>77295517
>The body would heat up fast in an attempt to fight the shock & heat the water.
Only if you ingest enough water to enter a shock state.

If the goal is to get the body in such a state, staying in a cold environment for some time is far more effective.

>>77295522
Well, I live in the arctic. I never mind the outside cold, but I'd never gulp a gallon of 0°c water on one go. Or even a liter. That shit tiktok-tier stupid, nigga.

>>77295532
The easiest way to get your body into a shock state is immersion in cold water, ingestion may damage organs and will induce a weaker shock state.

Have seen people doing this in tropical climates with the right set up.

I'm getting sick of meal prep

>>77295539
You can prepare in bulk and eat during the week, it's not as good as behaving like a human, but it's far better than eating pre-made foods like an American.

>>77295535
Ice hole hopping has some nice benefits. Add sauna to the mix and you're gaining immortal vascularity benefits. The shock value actually decreases with familiarity the body adapts to even that. I don't remember the last time I shivered just from the cold air, an ice hole hop still does it tho.

>>77295542
You can always increase the amount of time you stay inside cold water. It's infinitely scalable.

Any /fat/s taking creatine during weightloss? Or save that shit for later?

>>77295552
Creatine increase how much water and creatine you have in your muscles, it doesn't affect weight loss, except by making you endure a bit more exercise.

fatty contest
suicidalfatcel
194.13 lbs

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>>77295562
Found this

>>77295552
my lifts have increased. i don't do cardio but that should increase too.
i gained 6 pounds which are probably water weight because i'm on a deficit and i lift more.
a single day of creatine increased my max dumbbell OHP from 38lbs 8 reps to 13 reps of the same weight.
the day after i did 45lbs for 8 reps.
i started with the loading dose way. 20 grams split into 4 doses per day for a week. today is the 7th day.
and today, i did 45lbs for 11 reps.

>>77295447
it happens whenever i eat at a deficit. ive tested.

>>77295592
Then what you're facing is the baseline resistance a body has to getting fewer calories, either your diet has not enough protein, or you are have far too little willpower.

>>77295596
must be willpower. i eat plenty of protein. glp-1 will save me, no idea how everyone else powers through having no energy and shitty mood while working a fulltime job

>>77295598
While being far healthier than being obese, GLP-1 medication do have side effects and require you to keep taking them to stay on weight.

Are you sure you don't want to do this the right way?

Ppl under 275 dont belong here

>>77295633
Anyone who uses pounds belongs here.

>>77295651
whats wrong w lbs?

>>77295653
Not much, but around 45% of all Americans are obese with another 40% being overweight. A person using pounds has an 85% chance of being fat.

>>77295655
whats w the random american hate?? ur fat too if ur here.. dont be a hypocrit

>>77295659
Hate? Haha, no. It's just a funny statistic that a person using pounds to measure weight as an 85% chance of being fat.

If you want a positive spin, not being fat automatically put you in the top 15% good looking, that's very archival.

>>77295633
:( guess I'll just leave then

>>77295667
>hate?
i'd say so yea, ur being rude

>>77295679
Not really, if anything knowing you live in a country where most people are fat should tell you following what others are doing is a very bad idea.

>>77295552
>>77295590(me)
note that i barely hit 70g protein so i'm almost certainly very deficient in natural creatine.

>>77295683
you must be from a real shithole if u just start spewing all this american hate out of no where like this

>>77295697
Again, you are mistaking not playing pretend that a country is good with hating.

For a personal theory, I think that eating with bare hands, instead of using instruments leads people to eat more than they should. Forks, spoons, knifes and chopsticks all led to a bare minimum of restraint.

>>77294785
Nobody compares plain yogurt to sour cream

I dun goof‘d yesterday
I bought Nuii ice cream. It was really good.
Today I’m back on Track. Dust of the dirt and back on my lane

>>77295590
Thats about as good as a testimony as you could hope for
>>77295685
Yer, i might hit 100g of protein a day, so maybe creatine will help fill the gap.

>>77294297
I will agree with the ketoschizo and tell you that simple carbs FUCK UP your body if you spam them. 150 cal of cookies as a snack in the morning will wake you up right but 300 cal of white bread are shittier than 300 cal of pasta. Try adding beans as well, plenty of studies prove that they can unfuck your sugar-related hormones, which are all tied to satiety and hunger.

>>77295683
>>77295697
rangeban all thread derailers

>>77295854
sorry i'll behave, dont be mad at me..

I wanna have a movie night and have something to eat and snack through it, what would you recommend?
>veggies
>fruit
It doesn't have to be healthy really, just something under 2k calories. Maybe homemade pizza rolls or something? Idk.

>>77295875
roasted peanuts

Mum gave me her old water carbonator its pretty good making my own soda water. No more pepsi max for me.

>>77295911
how does it compare to pepsi max?

>>77295841
I need to correct you a bit here. The schizo is saying 'zero carbs' while even he isn't doing zero of them.
Even the cookies and white bread have their places, just not for obese sedentary Volk.

Fatty Contest
MoonAndStar
115.9kg

telling myself it's just water bloat

>>77295875
Corn chips and salsa

>>77295655
most of the world is overweight. you sound dumb and poor. do you know what overweight looks like? on most people its hardly noticeable, the same with class 1 obesity for a lot of people.

>>77296003
>>77295875
Home made pizza rolls,
Home made pico de gallo (with pineapple) & maize chips,
Home made banoffee with sōy cream whip or
That strawberry-yogurt dessert Jeremy Ethier does

>>77296030
No idea why you replied to me

>>77296031
Because you had the salsa idea. Sort of
>credits to this guy

>>77296032
Ah ok

>last week: no exercise, snacks here and there = weight loss somehow
>this week: feel less fat, exercise more, very little snacks (just jello and some fruit) = +2 kilos
What the fuck is this anons? I dont get it, holy shit, after taking fat loss a tiny bit more seriously it just blows on my face, today I will rest from working out but... It fucking sucks

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>>77296181
You should have eaten what you were supposed to.

>>77295875
tomato + mozzarella bowl

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Pork and rice to break my fast
Keeping the mudslimes away

>>77295875
Cured meats and cheese, obviously. Never any carbs.

Oh shit I see some blue veins on my biceps, maybe unlocking bicep veins soon

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Can I put this in the air fryer or is that too retarded?

one month of bad eating and I'm fat overnight. guess there's always next year

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>>77296375
>one month of bad eating
>I'm fat overnight

>>77296377
well that's what it feels like..

>>77296244
How long did you fast and did you have any cravings or ate anything bad after?
I'm doing 48h twice a week but on the second day all I can dream about is copious amounts of unhealthy shit I wanna scarf down.

>>77296375
You can still recover but ideally, you shouldn't go longer than 1 week of bad eating. For me, 1 week of bad eating is easily fixable with a few days of locking in but a month is enough time for significant fat to build up

>>77296381
I'm being cooked for by a fat person ..... so much food that I hate to see thrown away so I just eat it

>>77296395
First thing I accepted when I wanted to stop being fat was to not eat anything cooked for me by family. Or if I did, it was just once a day at night maybe.

Its convenient and cost efficient to just eat what's being made in the house so you dont have to spend too much time and money, but if you eat that stuff you are playing on hard mode

>>77296395
Tell your chef that you appreciate the food and it tastes good but that you want to eat less
Not that hard bro

One thing i never thought of when starting weight loss is how more limber i feel when i go jogging or cycling outside, i feel significantly looser and faster
Could still be partially placebo since i've only lost 2kg but still, i would've start a lot sooner if i realize

>>77296427
At 280 lbs, my knees and ankles hurt everytime I went up some stairs. When I got down to 220, the pain basically went away. Now my knee just buckles a bit and feels like its about to give out but that's likely completely unrelated

>>77296414
I'm just saying, this never would have happened if I was still in AB (aryan brotherhood)

>>77296395
Losing weight became vastly easier once I moved out of my parents house. I don't have someone tempting me with junk constantly, I just make my chicken breast and cabbage every night in peace.

>>77295841
>>77295932
Most people here agree with low carbs being good to your healthy.

>>77296380
I don't crave junk anymore not gonna lie. I look at a bag of Doritos online and feel nothing. Kinda gay but whatever

I do rolling 23hr fasts, on my sixth one now. I eat pretty healthy when I eat my one meal. 48 hours is long as hell man idk how you do it

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>Most people

>>77296018
Remember when people from Hollywood tried to cope with rampant rape by claiming all of society has a rape problem?

>>77296611
>I do rolling 23hr fasts
That isn't fasting, that is OMAD.

>>77296616
OMAD is just a fancy name for one pattern of fasting.

>>77296620
You eat once a day, so you do OMAD.

>>77296623
I get you want OMAD to be it's own super special niche own thing, but it's just one fasting pattern, the second or third most common out there.

>>77296625
Ok fastard

>>77296623
Is OMAD some new gay name for intermittent fasting?

>>77296615
When did that happen

>>77296644
>>77296625
Its just justified bulimia

>In conclusion, the present results suggest that fasting for weight control purposes is a more potent and consistent predictor of risk for future onset of binge eating and bulimic pathology

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2850570/

>>77296654
Intermittent fasting is a quite ancient and widespread practice, and is quite healthy if done right. I just don't get why give it a fancy new name.

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>>77294679
how realistic it is for me to gain 3 kg of muscle and lose 4kgs of fat in 8 months?

I am training for 6 months straight already

>>77296665
Gaining 1 kg of muscle and losing 2 kg of fat a month should be possible at any weight.

>>77296665
This is not the general for you

>>77296616
That's true but I like saying 23hr rolling fasts, feels cooler than saying omad

>>77296181
exercising causes muscles to retain more water to deal with the microtears

>>77296665
Highly realistic.
>I am training for 6 months straight already
Try training gay, or by the very least bi-curious

What vidya does /fat/ play to keep yourself distracted when the hunger keeps tempting you to binge?

>>77296370
an air fryer is a small oven

>>77296680
Factorio
OSRS
Mina, the Hollower as of today

>>77296665
>gain 3 kg of muscle
pretty unrealistic at your level without absolute dedication in the gym, protein and creatine maxxing, and/or using drugs.

>>77296692
I am 1,85m and 81kgs 15% bf

I wanna reach 80kgs 10% bf
do you think I am too advanced?

>>77296707
>1kg lost
>5% bf
lmao

>>77296761
>
wow you really are that dumb

>>77296707
you're already pretty big in your image. i feel that you're near the natty limit so gaining muscle would be pretty hard imo.
>>77296761
he wants to gain muscle and lose fat, anon.

>>77296783
I look pathetic compared to other people in my gym

Idk man, I am too slim, I need a little more muscle

>>77296791
>I'm too slim
>lemme head into the fat fuck general
Assuming, of course, no ill intent. Either that or retarded.

>>77296791
>other people in my gym
are you sure those other people are natties?
steroids and the like get you imprisoned in the US just like cocaine or meth so people swear up and down they're natties when they're not.
the natty limit is pretty low.

>>77296807
many are not, I am from Brazil, people talk about it openly but

but still I look like a twink guy, not bulky at all but it is almost impossible to have reasonable muscle and good body fat

>>77296817
>many are not, I am from Brazil, people talk about it openly but
Roids are far more legal here than in the US or Europe, tho.

>>77296817
i assure you that you do not look like a twink. you will be able to build more muscle but it'll be hard and will require lots of supplements and dedication.
imo, it's not worth the trouble.

>>77296797
Anyone losing weight should come here. This general would be fucking garbage if it was only a bunch of fatfucks coping together.

>>77296817
Your FFMI is 19.8, you can still grow plenty. And I'd estimate mostly legs.

Spite really is the best motivator, isn't it?

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I'm scared to step on the scale tomorrow morning for the last weigh in of the month and that I won't meet my goal set for May (I won't, I failed every week little by little)
This will cause me to crash out and binge...

>>77296869
Self fulling prophecies are a poor way to dictate your life.

fatty contest
fatretard
185.2

>>77296834
fuck legs

>>77296869
Go to your cupboard right now and throw some food in the trash

>>77296871
All I can do is worry desu
>>77296880
I don't have anything unhealthy rn and going shopping tomorrow morning but I know I'm going to be pissed if I'm off the mark by a huge number and will definitely impulsively grab some shitty snacks

>>77296868
Flow is even better. Spite is top tier as well.

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>>77296610
high fat phony has a heart attack ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0QlsvOuEDk

>>77296892
I notice this in fat people. They complain that they eat garbage, but they're unwilling to throw it away.
Online shop. Don't even go into a supermarket.

>>77296902
>high fat
I'm pretty sure he said low-carb.

>>77296906
>Online shop. Don't even go into a supermarket.
If you need to do this, you're better off just dying.

>>77296910
where do you think you are anon
the fatties here will say that, then walk into a supermarket and buy a bunch of sweets

>>77296914
You seems to be more retarded than the fatties here.

>>77296919
keep seething then fatty
make up another excuse for why it's ok to binge eat. You're already planning to go and stuff your face tomorrow, might as well use this post to justify it.

>>77296925
You're trying too hard.

>>77296906
But I literally don't have anything to throw away, I have some potatoes, rice, ham, few eggs and some fruits and that's it.
Online shopping isn't even a thing in my shithole anyway but I'm gonna try not to give in tomorrow when I shop

>>77296902
This is advice for old people with pre-existing heart disease. If you are trying to lose weight then eat at a calorie deficit. Once you are at a normal weight then eat what the longevity studies tell you; especially if you know your genetic background. For example, Eskimos need to eat just about nothing but fat and meat or else they get heart disease because they are adapted to live off seal blubber.

Hmm, fatties with vile attitudes and bad personalities are interesting. Shittiest tier people on the planet.

>>77296944
Just had a chocolate protein pudding and a banana. Seemed to take away all the sugar cravings. Snacks have a wide range of options too.

>>77296972
>Seemed to take away all the sugar cravings.
You just had candy, it usually solve sugar cravings for some time.

>>77296975
Kek, you're this >>77296264
No, anon. I didn't have candy. I had fruit and a satiating chocolate flavoured non-sour yogurt.

>>77296892
>>77296869
You need to change your mindset from goal-oriented to process-oriented.
It's nice to have goals, but they aren't great for the day-to-day, because you inherently are in a "failure" state since you haven't reached your goal yet, and all the effort you put in doesn't change your "failure" state until you hit your goal, which you only get to enjoy for like a day, before the next goal puts you back into a "failure" state. Makes it easy for an all-or-nothing mindset.
Instead, focus on the process to determine success. It means your checkbox of success should look like this:
1) Did I hit my target macros/calories for today?
2) Did I hit my workout goal for today?
If so, success, and that's it. No need to focus on anything else.
If you "failed" 1 or 2, you just failed for the 1 day. Know that when you start out, of course you will fail often, as you are figuring things out. Focus on how you can improve, so that tomorrow you can hit the checkbox on the 2 questions above, and therefore be successful in your goals.
In essence, you need to focus on ensuring the process (checkbox 1 and 2) are consistently being checked off, and spending your energy on optimizing 1 and 2 so that you hit it most of the time (I like the 80% rule personally). Your calendar might look like a mixed red/green bag, but if you truly focus on optimizing 1 and 2 (avoiding triggers, eating the right meals, finding the right balance), your calendar will be filled with more green checkmarks than red Xs. That is success.
No mention of weight, nor any need to focus on it.
What will happen, is the weight will come off automagically, without you having to think about it, as long as 1) and 2) are what you focus on. The only reason to check weight (maybe once a week; as long as you don't crash out, I do it daily) is to ensure you are actually hitting your targets (e.g., if you are gaining weight on a 500 calorie deficit, you are not on a calorie deficit, so figure out what is wrong)

I went from 227 to 178 and I'm still a fat fatty fat fat
What gives?

>>77296989
lean people are a myth

>>77296989
>What gives?
That you're short.

>>77296992
I'm 5'11

>>77296994
Dyel?

>>77296986
>satiating chocolate flavoured non-sour yogurt
Yeah, now this is not candy, the name is so convoluted and long...

>>77296989
Time to start putting on muscle to fill in the loose skin.

>>77296987
Appreciate the reply, gonna be hard to change my mindset but this is a bretty good post

>>77297008
>Hmm, fatties with vile attitudes and bad personalities are interesting. Shittiest tier people on the planet.
Go have a protein pudding and a fruit as your award for being a shit tier person, anon. Congrats! Not many can reach your depths.

>>77297021
Cringe and gay.

>>77297008
You're in the fat loss general.

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>>77296994
That means you need to lift more.

Being lean 180lbs at 5'11" means you're an advanced lifter.
If you either don't lift or don't lift effectively you won't be lean at 5'11" until you're like 140~150lbs.

>>77297029
This only makes eating candy and calling it healthy worse, no?

>>77296989
paper towel effect. the next 20 pounds will be a massive improvement

>>77297023
Whiny & bitchy.

>>77297034
It makes you fat. Did you get fat eating lentils and apples?

>>77297021
Of all places you decided to boast about how eating a candy snack is healthy here, and now you're upset.

>>77296986
You should try eating properly.

>>77297040
Yes. This place of all the places. Your seethe is like a heavenly symphony.

is fried chicken keto?
What if i just go order 20 pieces of chicken strips?

>>77297046
Tell me about eating properly

>>77297050
>is fried chicken keto?
Yes, but why are you following keto in the first place?

>>77297056
I have diabetes.
My doctor has prescribed bacons and plant based fats as medicinal purposes.

>>77297057
And no medicine?

>>77296989
Should have been lifting, I know this because I too am skinnyfat. Still better than being fat. Just hit the weights, its not like the grind ends once you reach GW anyways.

>>77297064
I have like 4 diabetes medicine.
But, the medicine is not needed if the food is low glycemic index such as bacon and fried chickens.

not fat but a nutritional question
i eat as little upf as possible and try to limit added sugars to no more than 20g a day, but i eat a banana and two clementines a day too. how badly will this age me? i hear natural sugars dont need a limit and are 'fine' but i also hear that sugar accelerates ageing no matter what kind

>>77296989
So you went from a visibly round guy to maybe a skinnyfat that looks normal in a shirt? that's still a big improvement
If you want to look cut or ripped then it's a whole other journey

>>77297075
Stop living your life by memes dude

>>77297079
sorry just really worried about ageing
never been fat but i ate like shit up and only ate stuff like chicken nuggets until i was old enough to buy my own food and i really worry about how much damage ive already done and how old i will look in just a few years time because of it (im almost 22)

>>77297075
My opinion of is that the way you are probably consuming that "banana and 2 clementines" a day will not make fat, but it will definitely lead you to an early grave especially if poorly sourced.

>>77297071
>But, the medicine is not needed if the food is low glycemic index such as bacon and fried chickens.
Not really, you should know this trick only works for a couple of years.

>>77296674
Huh? No way... For real? Then how do people lose weight when exercising then? Sorry for the retarded question, but... Do I just drink more water?

>>77297087
why? i thought fruit was good for you? i just buy them from the supermarket

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>>77297082
>im almost 22

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>>77297082
Take it to QTDDTOT, but yeah, that clementine is going to make your look like picrel in two years...

>>77297079
LIVE BY THE MEME
DIE BY THE MEME

>>77297075
Fruits are loaded with stuff that makes the sugar not a problem
Almost like we evolved to eat fruit

>>77297089
>Then how do people lose weight when exercising then?
the water retention is temporary. they lose fat so they lose weight. don't stop lifting to chase scale gains. use another metric to track fat loss like fat pinches or simply waist circumference.
>Do I just drink more water?
always. but as long as you're a newbie lifter, expect water retention whenever you lift. especially if you feel DOMS.

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Any of you fats that drink diet or regular cola like water get kidney stones from it?

>>77297102
i get constipated hard from it. it can't replace water if this is what you're asking.

>>77297102
I drink sugar free soda at least 5/7 times a week for years and ive never gotten one

Since almost everybody in the US is fat, being fit makes one almost a unicorn. So Being fit today, is socially much more potent than any other time in history.

>>77297102
I drink a 2 liter of Sam's Choice caffeine free diet cola pretty much every day and have for like 7 years. No problems

>>77297118
That's exactly what someone said >>77295667 and it's true, living in obeseland makes your progress render in far more rewards.

Fatty contest
Sub100
97.5kg

>>77297071
If you are a type 2 diabetic you are better off fasting to recover your insulin resistance.

>>77297102
the can says what minerals are in it, it has like a tiny bit of potassium so you don't run out of electrolytes eating it

>>77297170
it says the chicken tender is 170 calories each. So I could get 2 with salad.

25 workouts to go till goal

>>77297187
A salad with some chicken on top is obviously fine as a meal. All I'm saying is fasting is an easier and a more natural way to lower your insulin resistance than trying to figure out every single food that breaks keto. If you are here then you probably enjoy a wide variety of food, and for someone like that it is very easy to cheat, even accidentally, on a keto diet and lose any benefit. If you were intermittent fasting instead you will naturally go into keto every single day without fail.

>>77297203
what the fuck do you eat when you are not fasting.
why does everyone just say fasting and not what they eat when breaking the fast.

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YouTubers you recommend

I am diagnosed with OCD so I get stuck in the details obsessing hard and refining every small detail I can always changing things reading study after study and making adjustments. Tanner keeps shit simple and shit talks all the over thinking. It's a needed counter balance to focus on the big picture for me.

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I have failed miserably, I'm still hungry because not enough protein.

FattyContest
BostonBeachedWhale
314lbs

Getting closer, bros. My pace seems to be slowing down to 2lbs/week now. That means I should be at the goal of 299 by August for the summer outing.

The promotion I've been vying for is now "on hold" because the VP of my department decided he's going to retire. That's great. Traded one win for a loss, I guess.

>>77297266
>why does everyone just say fasting and not what they eat when breaking the fast.
Because what you are eating matters far less than how long you are fasting. If you are only eating one meal a day it barely matters what's in it as long as it isn't ultra processed or filled with sugars.

With that said, if you are trying to optimize your minimal meals the goal becomes to maximize nutritional diversity. You have very little food intake to hit all of the fiber, protein, vitamins, minerals, omega 3s, and electrolytes that your body wants. A multi vitamin, a meat, and vegetables gets you most of the way there. Salon once or twice a week will get your omega 3s without the mercury poisoning, and I personally like almond milk for the calcium. If you start becoming light headed or get a headache, you might be electrolyte deficient which can be solved with gatorade or liquid IV.

Is anyone still trying to lose weight without tirz or reta? If you are, what's wrong with you? Are you literally retarded?

>>77297463
If you lose the weight without losing the habits if you ever go off dose you'll get fat again, bwo

>>77297463
>trying
did.

Fatty Contest
oldskinnyfatbastard
163.8 lbs

>>77297102
Kidney stones come from multi vitamins.

>>77297469
>If you lose the weight without losing the habits
Simply take tirz and eat healthy. In fact, when taking tirz eating healthy is a million times easier. "Muh habits" is not a valid argument.
>>77297472
"Got chubby after college then quit drinking and slimmed down" doesn't count. I'm talking real obesity.

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Fatty Contest
MobyWhale
118.3 kgs

i am going to end it all man had two horrible days of eating and there's a dinner I gotta go to today too

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>>77297463

>tfw can't sleep after ejaculating like i used to
how do i fix this? not being able to sleep on command is torturous

>>77297478
>"Got chubby after college then quit drinking and slimmed down" doesn't count.
Well why the hell not? At any rate, I didn't take it because my asshole family told me I should hop on it like them and I decided to do it raw just to spite them.

>>77297280
hop on roids and any diet starts working

>>77297463
i'm poor

>>77297490
Because you don't have the disease of obesity. The success rate of obese people without drugs or surgery is 1 in 10, so they never actually succeed, and when they do they can't keep the weight off for long. Thankfully GLP1s are changing this.
>>77297495
Get a job and buy from china.

>buy from china.
i'm over the extremely fat phase so the risk:benefit is not worth it anymore

>>77297516
Anything over 18% bf is disgustingly fat. You are an amorphous blob of shit. Face gains don't even begin until you hit below 20% and they peak at like 13% bf.

If you're ok with not being sexually attractive then just not being "extremely fat" is good enough I guess.

>bike crash injury acting up again
I'm pretty sure this is scar tissue do I lift to break through it or will this put me in a sling

>>77294679
>177cm
>147kg
I decided to start walking today.
I stretched down while tying my shoes and suddenly got a pain in my back.
Pushed through regardless.
Now it's the middle of the night my back hurts and I got a god damn painkiller because I can't sleep.
I got a handgrip while I was out on a walk.
I think tomorrow I'll play around with that
Not sure if it's a good idea to walk tomorrow seeing how I can barely walk now.
Sunday maybe.

So I've stuck to a consistent exercise routine for a few months now but I still feel like I have no energy throughout the day. Like I can do the intense aerobics routine but I still hate the walk to the bus stop or doing basic chores. Sometime even like I'll want to watch TV but I just don't have the energy to get out of my computer chair and grab the remote and do all the inputs and move to the couch

>>77297560
depression

>>77297560
modafinil 100mg shit will change your life

>>77297558
get slip on shoes

>>77297565
I don't think it's depression I enjoy doing things once I start them it's more like there's an insane amount of friction before I start doing anything

>>77297558
>pain in my back
lower back?

>>77296869
This is why a fasting focused lifestyle is necessary

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>>77295043

>>77297596
it's ed man

>>77297502
>Get a job and buy from china.
I have a job, I'm a fulltime caregiver to two disabled family members, they don't pay me, I do it for free, without monetary compensation, so I'm poor.

>>77297560
check for insulin resistance/vitamin d levels, turns out i had low vitamin d and possible insulin resistance.
just went for that today to the dr, weirded me out because im already on ritalin 56mg and modafinil 100mg daily lol

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why is mcdonalds so low protein
>mcdouble
>390 cals
>only 22g protein
even the chicken nuggets
>10pc 23g for 410 cals

>>77295916
Just as satisfying really. Wet and bubbly is all you are really looking for

>>77297723
Check how it's in Europe, you'll be surprised.

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>>77297731
>27g protein
we need riots in the streets

Is it true i shouldn't really be looking to be healthy when losing weight is number 1 objective. Calories is really all that matters.. like diet soda is not all that great but if 3-4 cans a day keeps hunger away is not necessarily a bad thing.

>>77297735
Most fast food will mix artificial flavors, starch and gelatin with meat to make it cheaper. This goes for burgers and nuggets.

>>77297735
26.2g in australia. Dont think ive ever checked maccas nutritional info before

When you fast consistently for long enough, you legit forget about eating. It just leaves your mind. Its insane.

>>77297735
Here in Brazil it's 428 kcal and 25 g of protein. Decent I guess.

>>77297747
Yes, but don't forget that unless you're taking vitamins from other sources, like Barbieri did, it can still make you malnourished.

fatty contest
MT_FATSO
101.75kg
176cm

Chunky killin chunky killin chunky over reese's pieces on the ground
Silly chunkies dip their thumbs in pasta sauce and ride to flavortown

>>77297736
Sucralose actually stimulates sugar cravings more than sugar. It's the biggest reason for why people that drink diet soda gain more weight than if they were just drank regular soda. If it works for you, then you only have to worry about the slight increase in cancer risk which is more than acceptable if you are losing weight. It's just another discipline test.

How soon are face gains vs the rest of the body?

>>77297797
That depends on your pain tolerance and love of hammers.

>>77297621
Did you really start at 1000lbs anon? Or was that just exceeding the max weight of the scales?

Amateur hours...

>>77297822
That's his exercise bike, its measuring calories burned, not his weight. He did 999.8kcal then it rolled over to 0 and he did another 374.5kcal. This is likely vastly overestimated as exercise equipment is notoriously generous about calories burned stats. The actual amount he burned is at best likely closer to half that amount. He'd be way better off just eating less, there's no point in doing that much cardio, it promotes hunger and is generally counterproductive to goals of weightloss.

>tfw you can't lose the autism

how to stop inner thigh chafing from walking on treadmill?