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>out of breath after the 2nd set
How do you fix this?
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do more
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Lose weight.
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I can't even do these without doing them on the dip machine
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>>77366998
Everyone has to start somewhere bro, don't worry about it. I can't either. I'm an obese fuck finally getting my shit together. I can't even do them with counter-weight. I'm stuck doing the best strict lat pulldowns I can for now. But I can do 10 perfect reps of 180lbs from a deadhang to bar-to-chest.
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>>77366986
I'm doing 3*7 rn, when does it get better? It feels just like squats cardio wise

>>77366993
I'm a 67kg 5'6 manlet
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>>77366983
That's normal? You should be exerting yourself enough to feel winded after a set. Are you usually not working that hard?
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Wtf saw this after my 2nd set. Not winded even tho I broke a volume PR
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>>77367011
Are you skinny fat or something? Never had such issues with pull ups even though I'm like bottom 15% physique/strength wise. Took me 1.5 years to go from 0 pull ups to 20 though I treat them as a main lift.
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>>77366983
I used the cable pull down machine until I reached 10 reps or more of what I weigh, then moved to pull ups. Im now doing pullups with a 55lb dumbbell attached.
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>>77367280
It gets me tired enough that it messes with my third set, that's the issue. And no I don't get winded after doing curls no matter how hard, or bench, or OHP
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>>77366983
Fun fact Partials are Wholes.
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>>77367348
rest longer moron
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>>77366986
>>77366983
>>77366993


This. If you want to change it up just get a bar in your house and hit it multiple times a day. Push yourself to be out of breather then come back and do it an hour later when you pass it.

>>77366998
I used either rings or a bar in the squat rack and put my feet on shit. You can hit your back either vertical or perpendicular pulling into your chest. Reduce the weight however you can until you can do it then exhaust yourself. Rest do it again.

Time under tension is basically all it is. Do it slow or fast whatever you can hold form in. If you do go slow light weight really push yourself to failure. Its easy to think your there when you are not.
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>>77367348
Tired or winded? Those are two different things. Being winded means reet longer. Tired means your nervous system is fried and needs to rest for an extended period. If you're not feeling any bump in exertion with curls, ohp, and bench then you are likely not pushing yourself enough. By the third set you should definitely be warmed up enough to exert enough force to leave you feeling something after.
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>>77367400
Yeah I meant winded. It does indeed make me want to rest more, but that means getting into powershitter territory (3+ mins), is this really optimal? I autistically get 2 mins rest on the dot for every exercise because idk out of habit I guess
Will it mess with my gains if I rest for more than
3 mins?? For some reason I always viewed it negatively
Am I retarded?
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>>77366983
Cardio
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>>77367011
82kg 168cm here.
It took me 4 years from 4 reps to 20.
I still get exhausted after the 2nd set and that's a 3x10 or 4x10 working set
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>>77367348
jump and get negatives
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>>77367413
Depends on your goals. You're certainly not going to ruin anything by resting 3-5 minutes. You also don't have to rest that long for each set. Personally, I like getting in and out so unrest 2 minutes between sets and exercises. There have been times where I'm feeling worn and I'll rest without even watching a timer.
This whole game we play is a marathon, not a sprint. Take your time and listen to your body
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>>77367400
>Tired means your nervous system is fried
NTA. well shit. that would explain why I failed my 4x7 today and each additional exercise felt harder than usual. Literally felt like I could just lie down and sleep at the end of the workout.
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>>77367503
Failing is literally the fucking goal dude. If u don't fail or slow down and lose reps at the same weight from set to set you are not growing. If u do straight sets like 5x5 ur retarded as fuck and ur weight should be moving up at that point
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>>77366983
rest longer between sets. I I'm pushing to failure or 1RIR for each set. I rest a minimum of 4 minutes.
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1 set no more
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>>77367503
Yeah, that's too hard. Failing reps is one thing, but sounds like you need a few days off. Stick to more conventional rep/set schemes like 3 x 8-12. It's the gold standard for beginners and intermediate lifters for a reason.
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>>77366983
>out of breath
>on pull ups
I don't get it - how are you running out of breath before your muscles fail?
If anything it means you're doing too many and should be adding weight.
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>>77366983
I do chins and pull and on my last set I get dizzy and light headed.
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Bros i did pull ups and chin ups for the first time in a while on a metal bar and it was rough. Even my forearms were sore in places the next day. Bars with the grip just are not as good. I also hit spots lower on my back that bent over rows have hardly been hitting.
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>>77367505
No shit. I started with 3x3, then 3x5, then added a 4th set and now I‘m at 4x7 pushing 4x8. Goal would be 4x10 then starting to do them weighted.
>>77367514
I meant pull ups. Lifts are obviously 8-12 reps.
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>>77366983
I cant do these without swinging. If I dont want to swing I can only do 5 because I have to go slow. If I could go fast and had something to stop my feet I can do 10
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>>77366983
rest longer
i have like 1 or 2 hour rests between sets


it's best to have a pull up bar at homes so you don't have to wait at the gym
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i do a set to failure every waking hour
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>>77366983
I'm 100kg and I can't even do 10 reps anymore. It's too difficult even though I've been lifting heavy for a decade.
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>>77367599
Nigga, how is that possible? I'm 105kg myself and I add 15kg of additional weight and do 3x6 easily. Did you do bodyweight only for your entire lifting time?
>>77366983
Cardio unironically. /fit/niggers are afraid of cardio for some odd reason, because of that you're pretty much leaving gains on the table since you're not able to perform harder in lifts. It's stupid.



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