>Who is /fat/ for?For obesity obliterators who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqhttps://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/Previous thread: >>77416645
--adding below info on anons request, can't fit it in the OP--hunger associated with Vitamin D deficiency>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660Vitamin D helping in weight loss>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control grouphttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/us fatties having lower vitamin D>High prevalence of vitamin D (VD) deficiency in obese subjects is a well-documented finding, most probably due to volumetric dilution into the greater volumes of fat, serum, liver, and muscle, even though other mechanisms could not completely be excluded, as they may contribute concurrentlyhttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6780345/
want a 20 inch meatza so bad bros
>>77420110i gave ur mum a 20 inch meatza m8
>>77420099Remember to never eat carbs.
>tried to hide the time on my phone to stop me from compulsively checking it while fasting>android doesnt let youFml man
>>77420121Gottem hahahah
>>77420110>>77420121keeek
>>77420127How long are you fasting? I'm on 24 hours and will go probably for 96 hours.
>>77420123
>>77420158Im trying to go for 30 if not 48. 96 is insane. Basically at the same time though, Im at 25 hrs
>>77420159
>>77420161I'm going for 96 to get the stem cell gains. My longest fast is 9 days so 4 days should be easy.
>>77420166Good luck man. Hopefully I can do longer fasts too eventually, although Ive done several 7 day fasts but those were a long time ago
what a waste of timeI get all the way down to 75 kg at 6 ft tall and I still have love handles and lower back fat what a waste of time this was
>>77420194tfw this is gonna be me in 6kgs
Will losing weight and gaining muscle make cellulite go away or am I fucked? Yes I'm a guy, 6ft 205lbs. I seriously thought I had hypogonadism but I got checked and my test is like 675. Free test is on the lower end of normal, something like 13pg/dl. Estradiol levels are also normal. Wtf could have cause this? My max weight was 300lbs, over about 2-3 years I lost a lot due to nutrient malabsorption, not really dieting or exercise.
I've been very depressed and trying to lose weightAsked the doc to add test to my bloodwork this timeTest measured at 15.3 nmol/LIn the last 5 years, it measured 10.2, 12.4, and now 15.3, so it's somehow actually increasing, even tho I feel ever more depressed, fuuuuuuuckI really hoped it would be a hormonal thing and not a "need therapy" kinda thing
>>77420215This is 441.2 in american unitsAlso the bloodwork keeps showing very low levels of vitamin B9 and vitamin D, those are literally low every year I test them, the doc gives me some supplements to do for a couple months and then nothing; it's clearly not working, what do?
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asking again, which GLP1 does /fat/ rec?
>fall off the wagon>don't regain any of the weight I lostI'm not sure how my body actually works at this point.
what does your room look like, /fat/?
>>77420276whre does /fat/ rec to get GLPs in eu?
>>77420218The published vitamin D reccomendation is 10x lower than what you really need. Yes it's jews. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4210929/Therapy isn't going to do shit, your problem is a societal one. Take ashwaganda on bad days, don't use it continuously, don't mix it with alcohol and other medication. Drink saint johns wort tea regularly. Up your vitamin D supplementation. Go outside when there's nice weather.
>>77420218>>77420103>>77420316I took those D2 50,000 IUs once per week and it never raised my levels, but lower doses of D3 daily did.
>>77420316A video on it if you want the explanation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtoxkK7MeKc
I'm thinking of doing rolling fasts, most likely 72 to 96 hours. I'm drinking water with a little salts (potassium, sodium, magnesium) and bicarbonate (baking soda), is there something else recommended for supplements for fasting these days?
>>77420377recycling cum
I'm constantly thinking about southern fried chicken but I don't even have any kitchen and no place that sells them.I don't even know where to buy buttermilk because I live in an asian country
how to beat boredom?when I'm at work, whatever, I don't have access to food, but when I'm at home and bored I feel myself either wanting to eat or jack off.. what do
>>77420403Walk
>Continues logging foods for 1000+ days>Thinks by logging I will stay at a stable weight>Don't weigh myself for a few months (more than a few months)>Silly fucking me>weight myself today>gain 20lbs>despairI thought will power was enough, what the actual fuck, I told myself I wasn't going to become boogie2088 by just gaining all that weight back
>>77420403fmib learning linux & listening to music to curb boredomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVBn6cRkVus
>>77420403Used to be exactly like this but then I started running and walking. It does something to your blood sugar.
>>77420416I did a 25 mile hike + 15 miles on day 2 over the weekend and now my feet are raped and I can only hobble at the minute. It's so brutal, I want to go for a walk after I eat
>>77420403>how to beat boredom?learn JapaneseResources for learning Japanese.https://djtguide.github.io/Genki 1https://files.catbox.moe/sronwq.zipGenki 2https://files.catbox.moe/mt4rtu.zipGenki teacherhttps://files.catbox.moe/hrnkdx.zipHiragana/Katakana/Kangxi radicals Anki decks and Yotsuba Learning Packhttps://files.catbox.moe/9x3me2.zipAnki 2k6khttps://mega.nz/folder/iZU2QL5R#2Xcqyk__-Qqa0YAwJh6M7Qalso learning programming like python is also a great life skill. this tutorial video course is fairly decenthttps://1337x.to/torrent/5790279/Automate-the-Boring-Stuff-with-Python-Programming/
Anyone here have a habit of picking your lips? How do I stop this?
>>77420431Do you have something lile this for other languages?
>>77420305like your picture but spread out in a bigger room
>>77420306Tirzepatide is better, in terms of side effects and weight loss. Semaglutide is cheaper (for the script route).Reta cannot be perscribed and might worsen pre existing heart conditions and its side effect profile isn't as well known. It, however, produces the best weight loss.Remember, GLPs don't replace counting calories. They just reduce appetite.
>>77420403video games
>>77420431>pythonokay grandpa, nah learn rust its on the up. theres no point learning old timey saturated languages.
>>77420443This nonny brat needs correction!!!
>>77420431learn cobol
>>77420431I'm going to sounds like a psycho but I already did thatI learned japanese years ago, enough to read LNs/VNs, but in the last year and change I've just stopped enjoying everything I used to enjoy like japanese media and even games...Yeh pretty depresso>>77420441see above, haven't been able to enjoy a videogame in a while>>77420439the doctor won't give a fucking script for glps because I'm not technically super obese, but I want abs fuuuuuck I just don't really like the idea of injecting stuff and don't have a trusted source...
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>>77420443python is one of the recommended beginner languages, and it's pretty neat for just getting started because of all the repositories
>>77420453>plays VNs>wonders why hes bored
>>77420453>I'm going to sounds like a psycho but I already did that>I learned japanese years ago, enough to read LNs/VNs, but in the last year and change I've just stopped enjoying everything I used to enjoy like japanese media and even games...>Yeh pretty depressoyou could start scanlating. maybe that'd give you some interest againScanlation school scripthttps://files.catbox.moe/qp0u73.jsScanlation school fontshttps://files.catbox.moe/pi24nf.zipKobohttps://cdn.kobo.com/downloads/desktop/Rakutenbooks/kobosetup.exehttps://cdn.kobo.com/downloads/desktop/Rakutenbooks/kobosetup.dmgDeDrmhttps://github.com/noDRM/DeDRM_tools/releases/tag/v10.0.9https://calibre-ebook.com/Public rawshttps://888dl.ps/https://ww4.manga-zip.app/https://dl-raw.ac/https://ww1.manga-zip.tv/https://dlraw.cc/https://manga-zip.is/postPanel Cleaner (Cleaning and OCR)https://github.com/VoxelCubes/PanelCleanerIOPaint (free generative fill, a bit obsolete but works)https://www.iopaint.com/TypeR (Typesetting extension for photoshop)https://typer.hayasaku.fr/And Hakuneko I guess.https://github.com/manga-download/hakunekoAlso Miniconda is pretty neat for those python programs.https://www.anaconda.com/docs/getting-started/miniconda/main
>>77420434I did as a kid, in 4th grade I would bite and pick at the skin on my lips. As an adult I peel the skin on my finger tips mostly
AI is now saying that visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fat. Has this been retconned? Hello, Nelson Mandela!
>>77420505its entirely upto timing and genetics. if you wondered why some people with the same weight have night and day fat deposits it plays a role in overall visceral fat.someone whos been overweight since childhood will have significantly more visceral fat (and a harder time losing it) vs someone who caked on 300lb as an adult. however the former will suffer significantly less skin problems than the latter.
>>77420505>AI is now saying that visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fat. Has this been retconned? Hello, Nelson Mandela!you'd be surprised how things are deliberately changed in history by manipulating stuff like wikipedia and googleI remember alanis morisette being groomed by her manager twice her age, and she wrote a song about it called you oughtta know. but some time between 2020 and now I think, this got retconned and some other guy claimed that he was the guy the song was about, and all the information sources was changedI guess she probably was sued by her manager or something, and her lawyers fixed it up. her manager would have far bigger issues with being labeled a pedophile today than back then
>>77420505>visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fatsounds wrong, anyone who's trying to lose weight knows that it's the stomach that's the hardest to get rid of. while fat in your face is typically the first to go
>>77420505Why would you trust an AI to provide any factual value at all?>>77420512>>77420519Only partially true. One thing a lot of people miss is that the stomach area also has subcutaneous fat deposits, and this is somewhat hard to tell apart from the visceral fat at a glance.
>>77420519>fat in your face is typically the first to gothis scares me, im 30yo and people still mistake me for being 18-20. I dont want to rapidly age with weight loss lol
only way humans can gain weight is by eating fatcarbs burn as heat. especially glucose, wont turn to fat. de novo lipogenesis is simply too inefficient process for human body and actually costs calories rather than burning them away as net energy loss.that's why there are several billions of asians who are thin and no heart disease or type 2 diabetes, eating only rice and noodles
>>77420599or... more logically, asians have a culture of not being lazy fatasses that use cars to travel everywhere. even their hikiNEETs walk to the store for their ramen noodles.
>>77420603>asians have a culture of not being lazy fatasses that use cars to travel everywhereyou know that it's only like this in the us by design because they want to sell cars, right? there's no other country in the world that's designed with using cars everywhere than the US, you guys have been duped into thinking that's normal to make money out of you>>77420599you could like just do a quick google search to prove you wrong anon
>>77420612>you could like just do a quick google search to prove you wrong anonyou can find thousand studies showing whatever you like these days, especially keto pro studiesbut once people understand fat is making them fat, they finally lose their weight. currently everybody is taught the opposite, AVOID CARBS CARBS MAKE YOU FAT. these people will have no hope of losing weight long term, because glucose is main fuel of human body and brainhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUWcgh5Ju9g
Does the amount or frequency of pooping have anything to do with energy usage or gut health or weight loss?
>>77420620At this point I don't know who or what to believe. You can find videos of all sorts of people losing massive amounts of weight by doing all kinds of weird shit. I try to count calories and not overeat any one macro and trust that eventually I will lose the weight.
>>77420626If the back of your toilet bowl doesn't look like a WWI trench than you aren't shitting enough.
>>77420403Learn to draw or play music, hobbies like that that are sedentary but need a lot of focus and thinking are ideal for not falling to bad vices
>>77420626if you're on ketosis you bare even poop because more or less everything is absorbed by your body..
>>77420316>just inhale powdered feces pills from india i swear its an ancient mystical secret bro
>>77420620this zoot is regurgitating bunk science from the 1990s, laugh at him
>>77420612its not though. australia is no different from the US in that regard.
36 hrs here I come babyyyyy
>>77420630How do I poop more? My weight seems to stay relatively the same>>77420641Is this true? I eat a lot of vegetables
>>77420676>Is this true? I eat a lot of vegetablesvegetables are mainly water, so there's practically just a small amount of fiber left after absorbsion
I'm on day 26 of a water fast. I've been drinking water, diet soda and supplement for vitamins/minerals and electrolyte. I was 240 pounds, and I've lost almost twenty pounds. I don't feel bad at all. I can't stand the keto breath. It makes my mouth taste like fruity nail polish. What is best to deal with it?
>>77420691Bubble gum
>the less you weight the slower the weight loss becomesHow do you deal with this?
Absolute trash macros but whatever.
>>77420691Damn 26 days that's crazy I gotta get like you man
>>77420629The guy you're replying to is a vegan. He wants you to eat a plant-based high carb diet because he thinks it will save animals. He doesn't care if you are fat. He would probably prefer if you died because then you wouldn't be harming animals.Low-carb works. Low-fat doesn't. Pic related.
>>77420704>can't eat carbs>can't eat fatWhat can you eat?
>>77420704>he thinks it will save animalsmore likely he's selling some kind of productpeople aren't usually this aggressive about something unless they're either making money on it, or they're mentally ill
>>77420705You can eat fat. Just no carbs.
>>77420705Nothing, you have hundreds of thousands of calories just sitting on your body waiting to be digested. Piggies don't need to eat, that pleasure is reserved for humans with normal body weights.
>>77420707He's 100% a vegan. The video he linked is a vegan doctor. Nobody watches vegan doctors other than vegans. Everyone knows vegans are unhealthy.
>>77420702The first week I felt like ass, but it's been clear sailing from there. When you stop eating food (and I really ate badly, and at big amounts), you realise how much you ate because you were bored, not because you were hungry.
>>77420711I struggle to much with lightheadeadness and almost fainting everytime I stand up, and being weak as hell and barely able to walk the stairs. I think my longest run is just five days.
>>77420711I certainly eat because I am bored and yet I still think about food constantly when I am fasting, because I am bored. I am still very in favour of fasting. I am fasting right now. I'm just saying it's not easy to get over boredom.
>>77420716 I fell for the mega fast propaganda once. Went 12 days and developed my first ever kidney stone a week later. Never again.
anyone have advice on doing Bulgarian Split Squats as an overweight dude? a single set of 8 reps nearly made me feel like i was going to legitimately die, the balancing coupled with how fucking difficult it was made me wonder if this exercise is classified as a torture method
how are people falling for such obvious bait
>>77420725they're like that even if you're not overweightthey're pretty decent for build work capacity thoughbut you might want to relax a little until you get comfortable doing them
Hungry? Don't have calories to spare? Try this:Cut zucchini into 3-4mm thick slices and put salsa on top. Raw zucchini is crunchy, pretty flavorless and not very watery so it acts like a chip. A plate of zucchini salsa chips is like 50 calories.
>>77420121LOL
>>77420099>wake up>get out of bed>almost faint because my body had a mere 2200 calories yesterday instead of its tdee of 2600holy fuck my body should have its own stand-up comedy show
>>77419210
>>77420695GLP1 babbies are going to hit this wall when their doctors dont continue their script and gain the weight back
>>77420771I hit the wall as a natty, what's my cope protocol?
>>77420431I’ve been learning Java, it’s more fun than Qing ranked in league of legends or apex, keeps my mind off food
>urine is orange no matter how much water I drink>drank quite literally 2 gallons of water yesterday and todayokay what the fuck, am I dying?
>>77420795Like deep orange? Go to the ER anon
>>77420795Are you superdosing vitamin B-complexes? Eating a lot of carrots? If its deep orange, see a doctor and probably collect a urine sample to give them too.
>eat a big lunch>get home>30 minutes later I can feel my brain slow down>struggle doing anything and just exist in a fog for the next four hours>piss>can't see the bottom of the toilet it is so cloudy >feel a little better afterwards brain is back to 75% of normal functionIt's over for me isn't it? My grandfather died of the betus. I'm too scared to go to the doctor, it's not like they can even do anything for me.
>>77420816Stop eating carbs.
>>77420816>I'm too scared to go to the doctorthey can like make a prescription for metformine
>>77420816Go to a doctor and get on medication or you will die
>>77420803>>77420809light orange but still, it should be clear with a tint of yellow.
>>77420860Depending on your meds and supplements, that color is fine. A tint of yellow or fairly yellow is good. But if you're drinking 2 gallons, thats too much water and piss color should stop being your hydration gauge.
>>77420816>it's not like they can even do anything for meare you stupid? go to the doctor and get treatment or you're going to die.seriously.
>>77420401I probably shouldn't tell you this but nigga just make the buttermilk yourself it's literally 2 ingredients.
>>77420882Go to your nearest Jollibee they have the fried chicekns.
>>77420401>asian countrybro just admit you're indian kek
Man this pan fried tandoori chicken idea turned out nice. Slice the breasts in half to make them thinner and rub with olive oil, tandoori spice and lemon juice. Marinate them for a few hours and then fry on a hot pan, flip once there is some charring on the bottom.
>>77420291basal metabolic rate is not constant
>>77420291building good habits and keeping to them is well as important as the weight losslearning to not overeat, not snacking, eating smaller portions, fixed meals all work to avoid gaining weight againit requires more discipline and willpower to keep the weight than to lose it
What's the best/your favorite brand of cottage cheese?
>>77421000Fuck some are still pink inside, back into the pan they go.
>>77420403Walk or find a way to hack your brain. You're just searching for a dopamine source. Rewire how that works. Start keeping track of macros and if you're OCD enough, you'll start getting dopamine hits from hitting your macros. Then going on walks will fill the time while you are anticipating the dopamine you'll get from having succeeded in hitting your macros. Then you will start looking better and seeing women take interest in you. Then the walks become even more interesting because you might meet a woman. Etc etc.
I weigh as much as the average Murrican wahman
>>77420674Letsgoooo we makin it out the hood w this one. Now let me make it to 48
>>77421132LfgooooMy eating window is on Wednesday
>>77421159Bros gotta be doing omaw
>>77421166bro's unironically doing the butterfield diet plan
>>77420746A similar thing I do sometimes is salt then crisp up low carb tortillas in a pan or oven and break them apart into tortilla chip sized pieces. Honestly tastes good on their own but would be better with salsa. High fiber and decently low calories (the ones I get are 60 kcal per tortilla, 2 is enough to satisfy cravings)
Sauerkraut is a very yummy topping for avocado toast I was having a hard time figuring out how to eat it
did PT then went shopping afterwards was lightheaded and passed out when i got home
its so cold outside an its 2am and I cant sleep because my sleep schedule is all fucked up all I can think about is downing some bread with butter toasted and a glass of hot chocolate milk
>>77420099>be me>go on vacation with family>decide to enjoy myself and not bother with tracking food or weighing myself>try listening to body>week passes>go home>go on scale>only gained 200gI think I finally understand, anon. Really happy.
I'm a newfag (to /fit/). I'm trying to lose like 30 pounds or so. I've been using these calorie tracking apps to track my eating throughout the day. My goal is 1900 calories a day, roughly 500 defecit. According the the apps (I've tried a couple), I've been easily meeting that goal if not significantly under it. I swear I'm being as accurate as possible with weights and measurements, and I'm making sure to include everything I'm eating, even olive oil I use to cook, etc. The problem is it feels to easy. I feel full as fuck for most of the day. Should I trust these apps or do some of you notice they tend to undersell the amounts of calories in food? This is also the first time I'm eating high-protein, whole foods, so maybe this is just the power of not eating bullshit.
>>77420099I'm 260lbs and I cant even do 10 push ups.
>>77421332push ups have nothing to do with weight its a basic ass muscle thing for your arms
>>77421371Please be trolling, please. I can't take it if this is a serious post.
>>77421374nta but while yea, obviously extremes in weights will effect it if youre really fat, but not for a guy whos just 260
>>77421374its literally nothing , fatties can do push ups and its no excuse. hes talking 10 push ups
So not trolling just really really stupid. Well that is depressing but not unexpected.
>>77421327Just do psmf for 48-72 hours a week.
I love walkingI think it’s the best exercise
>>77421173hey it works for that skinny asian guy who eats 20k cal in one sitting and then runs 50 marathons or whatever
>>77420620>>77420123Cool, cool. So we've got the Keto 'no carbs' idiot and now a 'no fat' guy. We're missing the 'is it good to drink cow piss' fella though.
>>77420795It shouldn't ever be orange. Are you the Kool-aid Man?
>>77421453You know I think the game theory optimal diet is the following:A balanced dietHave some carbs, some fats and some protein
>>77421453Niggas be like "I'm keto" and aren't even in keto. Just tricking themselves into unnecessary suffering.
>>77421453>'is it good to drink cow piss' fellai miss himwonder if anyone started drinking that shit
Hello /fat/ my old friendI've come to talk with you again
>>77421465I thought he was a legend?
>>77421426nice:)
>>77420705protein. inb4 rabbit starvation
FUCK!
>>77421501Admitting kg is the best but still using Burger dates. Why?
>>77421332when I started, I couldn't even do a single pushup at 114kg. been keeping at exercising, now I can do about 21 in a single go. just keep pushing yourself.
day 17 of plateautomorrow is going to be the day it drops again, i can feel it...
>>77421509cause I copy pasted the dates from the losertown calc in the sticky
>>77421327read the OP to calculate your fat% and TDEE.apps overestimate your TDEE usually. by a lot.their food calories are pretty on point in my experience.
>>77421332i'm 180 pounds and can barely do 10>>77421471hi
Why are knees so fucking boney, can't sleep on my side anymore, can't cross my legs anymore, can't stretch one leg over the other without being in pain. No one warned me about this
>>77420795it's only orange when you are dehydrated. Something is wrong here, anon.
>>77421547you need to put a pillow between your legs if you want to side sleep still
>>77421547>>77421572try this.
The good boy chart is working :3
Dropped 6 pounds in one day. Fasting ftw
>gained 12lbs in one day*belch*
well... 2 months in. down from 114kg to 103.9kg this morningI'm doing 4 day split resistance training, eating 1900 kcal daily and I need to go buy new pants because even the ones that "didn't quite fit" are now falling offI'm not really sure how much pure fat I lostI'm also 30 days in on daily creatine so basically fully saturated I think and I'm getting 150-ish grams of protein daily some days even moreI can now comfortably fit in picrel which I couldn't do since almost over 12 years agoI should mention, my all time high was 130kg back in late 2020 and during 2021 I went down from 130 to 102kg but I put on 12 from 2022 until midway in 2026I still see myself as pretty fat but I have started to get compliments, tshirts drape off my chest which is a bit of a confidence boost, but I find the progress to be slow as fuckmy neck does look thicker and my arms and legs look much leaner, my stomach doesn't hang nearly as much when I lay down on my sideoverall I feel pretty good about myself
>>77421460>eating unlimited delicious food without measuring or tracking it>sufferingCICO is suffering. You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diary, force yourself to be hungry, and avoid good tasting food because it is too "calorie dense".I feel sorry for you.
>>77421609>You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diary,I do that and I actually like it, it stimulates my natural autism>force yourself to be hungryI'm in a deficit and I'm never hungry be cause I don't rely on simple refined carbs>good tasting food because it is too "calorie dense".you mean goyslop?do whatever works for you, if it's keto or cico or atkins or whatever
>>77420453you can get it prescribed online from a trusted source. even amazon will do it now.
>>77421623not in italy afaik5th world country fml
>>77421638go to a different doctor are u at least obese?
>>77421621No I mean things like ribeye steak, butter, bacon, full fat sour cream, creme fraiche, eggs with the yolk, regular ground beef, etc.Calorie cultists won't even eat their chicken with skin. CICO is a sad unnatural existence.And if you were satiated you wouldn't have to restrict calories so I know you are lying. You force yourself to be hungry. That's why you log your food in a diary so you know when to stop eating.The saddest part about CICO is it doesn't even work. All that misery and you will end up fat.
>noon>already at 1200 caloriesit's so over
>>77421654idk man, I'm doing cico and I eat all these>ribeye steak, butter, bacon, full fat sour cream, creme fraiche, eggs with the yolk, regular ground beefespecially eggs, full fat dairy and ground beef+pork mixed, albeit in moderation>And if you were satiated you wouldn't have to restrict calories so I know you are lying. what's being satiated have to do with anything? if you're 400lbs you need more kcals to maintain vs someone who weighs 180, that doesn't mean you should keep eating like a hog and stay at 400lbswhat kind of retarded take is that?you do you, don't like cico? don't do it. simple as
>>77421609>You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diaryMy friend, who do you think you're talking to? This is the internet's home for autism and obsessives. You are describing our perfect saturday night. I built my own app to track food because the existing ones are too focused on normies and lack charts and graphs.
>>77421654>The saddest part about CICO is it doesn't even workthermodynamics denier has entered chat
>>77421668Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.>>77421669Cool but you're fat.>>77421671Post body let's see your CICO results.
>>77421327It's the power of not eating bullshit
>>77421679>Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.if you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. there is no way around it.again, you do you. I really don't care.I don't even understand your argument, I never even said anything about carbs vs fat or whatever. just that I count my calories because it does help me lose weight.>but KETO IS SUPERIOR AND FASTERok?why are you spazzing out?
Food calorie counters eat: - zucchini with salsa >>77420746 - skinless chicken breasts >>77421000Food ketochads eat: - burgers >>77421609 >>77421654 - unlimited bacon
>>77421669>I built my own app to track food because the existing ones are too focused on normies and lack charts and graphs.publish it on F Droid
>>77421687You can eat more calories and lose more body fat if you avoid carbs.
>>77421691what is even your argument?do you think I'm eating donuts and getting the "low-fat" produce at the supermarket?no, retard.I need 3200 calories a day stay as I am, eventually if I overeat I will get bigger, oh looks like it's time to cut. so I slash 600kcal and eat at 2600 for a few weeks and SURPRISE, I lose the weight.golly gee how the fuck could that happen?I enjoy the autism of tracking everything and counting and adding up, it makes it enjoyable and the only practically difference in my day to day is down to how much quantity of whatever I was already going to eat do I actually eat.simple and effective
>>77421696You're doing a diet where you eat unappealing food, you have to measure and track calorie estimates in a diary, you have to force yourself to be hungry, and the end result is you will be fat because it doesn't work (pic related). I am eating a diet where I eat unlimited delicious food, don't measure any of it, never go hungry, and I have been lean for years.
>>77421701> I have been lean for years.post body with timestamp
>>77421703Way ahead of you. See: >>77420123
Should I be worried about gallstones with fasting?
>>77421703he won't/can'the's just some weird old dude that lives in these threads larping and spammingit's best to just ignore him fullstop
>>77421712As long as you eat plenty of dietary fat when you're not fasting you won't get gallstones. Gallstones are caused by low-fat diets.
>>77421714Stay mad, hater.
>>77421707>2021>>77421717>no timestamplmaopost body with timestamp
thinking of making a YouTube channel for the weight loss journey as an extra bit of motivation
>>77421725I've also had this idea but then I remember all the lolcows that did the same and I stop
>>77421718I can't tell if you're dishonest or just a moron.If CICO worked you wouldn't have to be such a seething hater.
>>77421679>Cool but you're fat.As Churchill once said: Sir, I may be fat, but tomorrow I can chose to lose weight; you, however, will still be a cunt.>>77421690Maybe. if i ever get round to making it support accounts and user choices. Lot of hardcoding right now.
>that shitty photoshop on the most "recent" onekek
>>77421701Thanks for the unsourced chart with an unexplained 2 year gap in the middle! I'm convinced!!
>>77421735just take your shirt off put the time and date on a piece of paper and post the picit's that easy
>>77421725Most likely gonna get like two views don't waste your time
>3 weeks plateau after a huge drop
>>77421754happened to me, 2 weeks no change then drop2 weeks no change then dropit's just water take the place of fat in your cells, the woosh is real
>>77421756I just hope there is another drop by next week.Then again, my sleep has been shit lately, so that might be why the water weight is persistent
>>77421735No one on keto is a Chad. It is a diet for losers.
>>77421739You can't lose weight. You believe in CICO.>>77421742The explanation is that CICO destroys your metabolism and causes weight regain.>>77421748Sure I'll take a new photo after you post yours. Then we can have another physique comparison to help /fat/ anons judge what is the best diet strategy.
>>77421732yeah I def have lolcow opinions but it would just be for weight loss journeying. I had the idea yesterday of doing a live coaching series over 5 years so someone else watching it 5 years from now sees the progress I made and feel more inclined to better themselves. Instead of so many other fitness channels made by twiggies with no real experience losing weight themselves.
>>77421764>Sure I'll take a new photo after you post yourslmao, cope and seethe ketoschizo
>>77421799I routinely post photos and have demonstrated sustained weight loss.You are obese and won't post even one photo.If CICO worked you wouldn't be a fat seething hater.
>>77421761>No one on keto is a Chad. It is a diet for losers.the main advantage of keto in my opinion is that you feel way less terrible and tired than on ordinary diet, and you feel way less hungryit's not particularly more advanced than that. I think that the people speaking about other advantages of keto are speaking out of their ass honestly. it's still cico, just with less disadvantages
>>77421769This is known as counting your chickens before they hatch. Most people fail at weight loss. You will as well unless you stop eating carbs.
>>77421802>I routinely post photos and have demonstrated sustained weight loss.>refuses to postlol, lmao even ok ketofattyI bet you have plump puffy tits
>>77421173>butterfield diet plancome to think of it, I bet this would actually work IRL. Surely you couldn't eat enough in one day to stay fat after 6 days of fasting. You'd need to eat what, 20,000 calories or something?
>>77421807uhhhh, I dont consume carbs bro. where did I say I did?. anyways the idea is like, if a fellow 400lb+ whale is looking for help to lose weight they would be losing it in real time with my videos seeing the progress knowing it works so they're motivated to stay the path.
>>77421754Time to do a 48 hr fast
>>77421827my fast is 48 hours in two hoursnot sure how long I'm going to go for, but if I hang on until friday it's a 120 hour fast, so that's my goalbut no biggie if it ends too early
Can anyone debunk this?
imagine if you did keto and CICO at the same time
>>77421846
>>77421846>imagine if you did keto and CICO at the same timethat's what I doI think it's silly thinking that keto is something miraculous compared to other weight lossit makes you feel less bad and tired and that's ityou still need to have a caloric deficit, since it's a caloric deficit that makes you lose weightketo only helps with getting a caloric deficit, there's nothing else special about itdon't be like those retards that think there's some miraculous advantage and those calories count less or something like that. I've got a friend like that and he just refuses to listen to basic biochemisty
Fatty Contestfuckinghippie101.4kg184cm
>>77421855kek
hypothetically speaking how much would i have to lift in order to be able to eat whatever i want? i'm a NEET so i have unlimited time to lift
>>77421893Lifting doesn't increase your metabolism that much to allow you to eat whatever. Endurance cycling on the other hand would do that.
>>77421846>>77421863this is what sane people do yeah. limit carbs to 10%, limit daily intake 30% below TDEE. Its that simple.
>>77421893Do cardio instead.
>>77421895>>77421898i do have a stationary bike in front of my computer
>>77421893Just fast. Im rolling 47hr fasts and the best part is being able to eat whatever I want when my eating window comes. I just ate three fried chicken sandwiches and a shitton of fries and I'll probably lose weight. No calorie counting or anything. Just don't go absolutely crazy and you'll be fine
>>77421877178 cm100 kgI don't have any big goals, would be great to get under bmi 30 so down to 95 kg, but best would be to get down to bmi 25, 80 kg. I'll just keep going and see where I end up.
>>77421897>this is what sane people do yeah. limit carbs to 10%, limit daily intake 30% below TDEE. Its that simple.for keto you need to have less than 50 g carbs a day, so just limiting to 10 percent is going to break the ketothe entire point of keto dissapears if you're not in ketosis, then it's just low carbo
>>77421813literally counting chickens before they hatchreach the goal and then you can talk about your successin all honesty, would you want or take advice on weightloss from a 600lbs whale? probably not, I know I wouldn't
>>77421841Yes, easily.
>>77421834Nice. You're one hour ahead of me. I will be at 48 hours shortly after you. We are fasting buddies. You can make it.
>>77421813Well if you don't consume carbs you will definitely make it. You should document your progress because it will be a good example.
>>77421948Can you post your hairline for proof?
>>77421918>ketosisthe body can extract up to 30kcal from each lbs of fat you have, not morebiology does not care what, when or how you eat. if you're intake is less than what you consume, the body will extract energy from fatif it cannot extract enough energy it will start to cannibalize lean massthe reason you should have an adequate protein intake is because your body needs amino acids for various functions, no amino acids = muscle breakdown even if you're in a calorie surplus>newsflashthe brain actually needs a minimum of glucose for proper function, it CAN NOT run purely on ketones, if you limit carbs too much, your body breaks down muscle to amino acids to turn into glucoseketo (((works))) because you're eating highly satiating fats and you're probably eating less total calories, so...>calorie deficitwhat also happens is carb intake is insufficient so you lose muscle mass + most people don't get nearly enough protein or train enough to make the body want to keep existing muscle so more lean mass lossI've never seen some on keto, outside of diabetics that don't for legitimate medical reasons, be anything other than skinny fats who constantly yoyo back and forth
>>77421764>The explanation is that CICO destroys your metabolism and causes weight regain.It's not a study, its not peer reviewed. It's not even got a person's name on it so we can't even consider it a single data point. It doesn't explain, show or support anything. If i'm feeling generous, I'd accept it as one person's weightloss log. And for all we know that person was doing Keto in the two year gap. They probably were thinking about it, thats why they gained all that weight, the hair loss is too light to offset the fat from all their carb-free food...
>>77421996It is a peer reviewed study.
>>77421981Why does he never respond to this?
>>77421988You get glucose from triglycerides.Keto preserves muscle mass. Eating carbs causes muscle loss.
The last 10 Kilos are very stubborn to lose
>>77421999Thats a different image. Showing different things. It's from a famous NY times article tracking how the people on the Biggest Loser got on after the show. However, even your image here shows CICO has worked for most of the contestants. Only 4 of the 14 contestants are heavier than they were at the start. Meaning 10 lost weight and kept it off. 71% of this sample were successful using CICO.Thank you for your visible support of CICO as a weight-loss method.
>>77422000Same reason he respond to "post body" with pictures from months/years ago.
feels like i get stronger but my muscles simply get less energylooks like weight loss while building muscle is working, cant wait until i hit 12% bodyfat and eat at maintenance again, my muscles will become HUGE
>>77420431Not that anon but thanks for doing this, I have been trying to learn Japanese but it feels like nothing sticks, I tried reading Genki on the train and it all just slips away like water, is frustrating, I am afraid I have somehow become retarded and unable to study.
>>77422017your daily 4 hours of anime?
>>77422020I rarely watch movies or tv.
Okay once and for all, KETOtards and CICOfags reply to this post with your hair
>>77422039CICO
just bought mandarins and cherries and a couple of other fruits i cant wait to eat them this week bros
>>77420439>Remember, GLPs don't replace counting calories. They just reduce appetite.this. and the appetite effect wanes over time so you have to count calories or you will have to up dosage and switch meds to more potent ones.picrelated shows pretty well where the "free weightloss" from ozempic stopped and where I started counting calories (this is all without increasing dose)glp1 makes counting calories and keeping to a CICO diet incredibly easy. no bad mood, no shitty binge eating episodes.
>>77420453if you're in the EU you can get it via a tele medicine website. the script costs 30 euros extra though :)
>>77422039Keto
>>77422072based. nothing better after a workout than fresh chilled mands and cut up oranges>>77422054nice mane, mane
>>77422004>CICO has worked for most of the contestantsThey're all fat.You're also fat. I guess this explains why CICO believers are so convinced it works: they don't mind being fat.
>>77422004They're both infographics based on data from a peer reviewed study. Sorry you're illiterate.
>>77422096Hairline status?
>>77422039
>>77422096post hair schizo. If you have any left that is :^)
>>77422104Ketoaryans are bald btw
>>77422091>>77422104high testosterone lean mean aryan machines>>77422054low T fat calorie counting retardchecks out!
This general has really gone to shit
>>77422122Hairloss is a bitch
>Ate a whole thing of strawberries yesterday>Take the best poop of months todayIs this the secret?
kinda want to buy adjustable 24kgs dumbbells for 200 bucksis it a bad idea
>>77422139just lift bricks nigga
>>77422125Ketogenic diets cure hair loss. Pic related. See also: >>77421948Also it's a weight loss general so why are you fearmongering about hair? Because you know keto is the best diet for weight loss.
>>77422139>24kgsLong term waste of money. Go big or go home is the wrong expression. It should be go big or go to a real fucking gym.
>>77422104>>77422091>>77422054timestamp or gtfo
>>77422104arent you the potato enthusiast
Honestly insane that two obese fucks on this board have been competing in trying to convince others of "their" weight loss method for a decade now instead of just losing weight themselves
>>77422170satisfied? >>77422128I had a fruit salad with extra pineapple
>>77421547happens with meniscus deterioration, do you get sharp pains on either 10 or 2 o'clock positions on your knees while sitting?
Forgive me if this is off topic but does anyone else find the deadlift portion of reaching 1/2/3/4 much harder than the other parts?
>>77422191*one lean person and one obese vegan
Fatty ContestHedonisticFucker85.0 kg
>>77422002retardcarbs replenish glycogen and help muscle protein synthesisonly a small fraction of triglycerides can be converted to glucose but the human body is literally incapable of doing ityou are intentionally spreading false information or you're legitimately retarded
>>77422147>Ketogenic diets cure hair loss.So POSTYOURHAIRLINE
>>77422298Incorrect Carbcel
>>77422054CICO
>>77422303prove me wrong retard
>>77422307I already did
>>77422308you did no such thingyou made a retarded statement and I told you why you're statement is retardedso go ahead, prove you're right>protip: you can't
>>77422298Carbs cause muscle loss because they raise insulin. Insulin blocks fat burning. When fat burning is blocked your body catabolizes muscle for energy.Pic related. Carbs cause lower muscle mass and higher adiposity at the same body weight.
>>77422311You already lost
>>77422312>rodents
>>77422312you do realize not all carbs are refined sugar that instantly spikes your blood glucose, right?>posts study on ratsokmuscles need glycogen to function correctly, especially if you're doing weightsno carbs = no glycogen = bad performance = negligible if any gainsyou're retarded>b-but much triglycerides humans cannot convert fatty acids from triglycerides into glucose
>>77422314cool, post body with timestamp
>>77422054>>77422306>>77422104>>77422091none of you provided timestamps and I bet you're all the same person. let it be known every retard peddling cico is a larper
not going shopping for hours after pt ever again holy shit my whole body is fucked right now
>>77422324All carbs raise insulin. Insulin blocks fat burning. Carbs cause muscle loss.
>>77422328It's moxyte. He's a vegan from reddit who has been here for years. He, like all vegans, hates keto because it causes people to eat animal products like meat eggs and dairy.He will occasionally sperg out and start talking about things like hair loss or disease because he knows he lost the weight loss argument.When nobody is here to argue in favour of low-carb he will sometimes post vegan doctors telling people to eat potatoes.
>>77422331retardcarbs are anticatabolic, both insulin spikes and their impact on fat burning is negligible unless you're diet consists primarily of refined sugarsyour graphs prove nothing, you're words prove nothing
>>77422335screenshot was for >>77422328my hairline is good because I don't have baldie genes and I don't follow retarded diets
>>77422139you can just buy those adjustable star lock ones for a tenth of the pricebuy two sets of them and you have more than enough to train for several monthsthey only can handle any kind of pressure you put on them, compared to the automatic ones that get ruined easily
>>77422165for many it's a nice stopgap method to begin, and they might even upgrade their home gym with a barbell down the road
>>77422335Carbs cause muscle loss by raising insulin and blocking fat burning. The body is then forced to burn muscle for energy because it can't use fat for energy.This is a proven scientific fact. Very easily understood by anyone.
>>77422348Hallucination
My therapist told me I inspired her to start fasting. Feelsgoodmang
Why is it that every thread I go to on this board people are arguing about carbs?
>>77422339>>7742234250lb adjustable dumbbells quickly become paperweights when you progress beyond a total dyel, and they are always cheaply made. It's better to bite the bullet at the start and get something really nice like ironmasters. Regardless DBs alone are not enough for a home gym, they are optional and should be the last thing you get. You NEED a barbell, rack, plates, and bench that is ideally adjustable. Going to a gym is just better if you aren't willing to do all of that.
>>77422352Wow. she must be retarded.
>>77422353Schizos and shitposters force the topic with spam, and retards keep replying to them.
>>77422344I'm not sure if you're being retarded on purpose or if you're genuinely this stupidI'll break it down for youthe body uses glucose, the easiest way to get glucose is through carbs, the second easiest way is through gluconeogenesis which breaks protein into amino acids and then into glucosethe body cannot convert fat, triglycerides or whatever else into glucosethe body can run on ketones, but the brain and some organs need a minimum of glucose to function properly, regardless of ketonesif your carb intake is insufficient, the body goes to the nest best thing, protein. if you are eating more than enough protein then congrats, your body will break down amino acids already in your blood into glucoseif not, the body starts breaking down muscle into protein into amino acids into glucosethere is no way around this>insulin stops fat burningit's negligible unless you 24/7 spike your blood sugarbesides, your body steadily burns fat, it doesn't happen all at once or all day. eating a cereal bar won't magically stop your weight loss
>>77422353>ketoschizos must defend eating unlimited bacon dipped in mayo on butter sticks>cicoretards must defend autistically tracking every nanogram of food that enters their bodyneverending cycle
>>77422354no you don't. not everyone is trying to be a power lifter. people can even get buff by working out with calisthenics
>>77422352tell her mutual sex works better for weight loss>>77422329whatchu buy anon>>77422328jackass. see >>77422201>>77422306nice shades. I need a new pair like that in 165mm+ width
>>77422348>google aiLol.
>>77422353Eliminating carbs is the most important factor for weight loss. This is an upsetting fact to vegans and carb addicts.
>>77422352Shes dtf
>>77422358Eat protein, moron.Carbs cause less muscle and higher adiposity at any body weight. This is because carbs raise insulin more than any other macro.
>>77422201>believes CICO>is obeseTypical.
>>77422374If you plan to do zero exercise, sure. Otherwise you're going to go through hell.
>>77422385Carbs have no benefit for exercise.Eating carbs is so horrible for weight loss that unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.
>>77422382brother I was close to 700lb and basically just started working out, almost down to 500 now. don't have a stake in your autistic argument Im just posting hair since you accuse everyone of being bald. now post your head or shut up already
>>77422389>believes CICO>is so mentally retarded he can't figure out who talks about people being baldTypical.
Why are CICO believers always so fat?
>>77231192
>>77420103thanks, bwo. a single sentence is enough. something along the lines of >being deficient in Vitamin D is associated with hunger and fatties are prone to Vitamin D deficiency so check and/or supplement Vitamin D
>>77422411>>77422414lmaoposting images from 5 years ago vs a guy who's currently losing weight down 200lbsimagine believing you're flexing on anyone
>1400 calories>so fucking full>keep stuffing my face because food is deliciousnow that hunger is solved. how to solve face stuffing despite being extremely full and satiated?
>>77422411>homosexual low T flower background>chad high T tree and gadsden flagmaking CICO look based
>>77422348he meant eating high carbs on a deficit but i wouldn't be so hasty as to claim it burns muscles
To put a shirt break to this very valuable and insightful CICO/KETO discourse, I have a question.Today I had a pretty active day with my smartwatch app giving me above 2000kcal active calories burned already, should end the day around 4600 total energy expenditure today or over 3000 deficit.How scared should I be of losing muscle mass with this kind of numbers? And while it's neat to burn off half a kilo of weight in a day, I really would like to come out (still) toned at the end of the diet.186cm, currently 95kg down from 107, balanced macros lolHow much should I have for dinner, bros?
>>77422445have a cup of cold steak, you'll be fine
>>77422445>should end the day around 4600 total energy expenditure today or over 3000 deficit.based Olympic chad
>>77422445Idk if your smartwatch should be trusted unless you're at Olympian levels of activity.
>>77422419The image on the left is from April 28th 2026. See: >>77421735
>>77422445As long as your body can use fat for energy you won't lose muscle. To ensure you can use fat for energy keep your insulin low. To keep your insulin low avoid carbs.
>>77421735yet no pictures of his hair, curious
>>77422488It's a weight loss thread.
>>77422494okay, then post your hair in >>>/fa/18735049
>>77422487Nta but not true. When you're in a deficit the body wants to reduce overall energy usage and one way to do that is to have less muscle (since every gram of muscle requires energy to maintain)
>>77422201Brady is that you?
>>77422494Yet you're the one who claimed it helps with hair regrowth, now post your hairline, it's been 2 weeks almost
>>77422509Ketogenic diets raise metabolism.The muscle loss on CICO with carbs is caused by insulin being elevated.
>>77422524Hairline baldy, post it
>>77422519brady? nope. I'm still somewhat new to the gen. You can call me bluto.
>>77422201I just noticed the AC in the top right
>>77422533Yeah, fat people need a/c and that guy is extremely fat.
>>77422533keep it on 68f dry mode mostly, last place I lived was perpetual humid swamp air
>>77422386>Carbs have no benefit for exercise.Other than the fact that every single person on earth is adapted to use carbs to power their muscles, sure. If fat was even remotely close to being a replacement for carbs then ketosis wouldn't stop the minute you ate carbs. Carbs act like a battery filled with energy while fat acts like a generator that produces power on demand and the size of that generator is small as fuck and it takes months for your body to adapt to using the energy from that generator.
Metabolism increases by +52kcal/day for every 10% reduction in carbs on average.People with the highest insulin secretion get +478kcal/day metabolic boost when going low-carb.
>>77422541Carbs have no benefit for athletes. Carbs are for fattening cattle.And this isn't an athletic performance thread anyway. You don't need carbs to lose weight, in fact eating carbs makes weight loss fail.
>>77422549where your hair?
>>77422549>Carbs have no benefit for athletes.
>>77422532You just look a lot like a guy I know so I was fishing to see if it is you.
>>77422553Right. Carbs have no benefit for athletes. Pic related.>We demonstrated: (i) equivalent high-intensity performancehttps://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2023.1084021/fullAnd this is a weight loss thread. Carbs cause weight loss failure.
>eat carbs so you can be just like an NFL playerNo thanks.
>>77422565he would outrun you btw
>>77422567He would outrun baldy because he has hair and hair gives you power and energy
>>77422567He would have the exact same running time as himself after he went low-carb for 4 weeks, because carbs have no benefit for athletics.And this is a weight loss thread. He is fat.
>>77422483you only post retarded collages, never an actual straight pic with timestampI bet you have gyno
>>77422386>Carbs have no benefit for exercise.@grok, what is the purpose of carbohydrates?>Carbohydrates primarily provide energy for the body. They are broken down into glucose (blood sugar), which cells use as their preferred and most readily available fuel—especially the brain, red blood cells, and working muscles. Excess glucose can be stored as glycogen in the liver and muscles for short-term use, or converted to fat for longer-term storage.
>>77422577Ask grok to tell you about this study: >>77422560Pic related.
>>77422584@grok, how many carbs do athletes typically eat?>Recommendations are usually expressed relative to body weight and training load (from sports nutrition guidelines such as those from the International Olympic Committee and ACSM):>Activity level>Approximate carbs>Moderate training~5–7 g per kg body weight per day>High-volume / endurance training~7–12 g per kg body weight per day>Extreme endurance or carb-loading before eventsOften toward the higher end or temporarily higher>For a 70 kg (154 lb) athlete this can easily mean 350–840+ grams of carbohydrate per day—far more than the typical sedentary person’s intake.
the change i expected the least as i approach gw is the shape of my knees changingi knew some fat was stored in that area but the visual difference is weirdly dramatic
Genuinely how do you discern between gyno and mantits as a fatass?
>>77422613>eat zero carb>win decathlonStay mad vegan.This is a fat loss thread by the way.
just ate 2000cal worth of carbs, feeling good
>>77422622post chest and i'll tell u
>>77422633I ain't a slut
>>77422623>that hairketards could never
>>77422644then continue to live in ignorance
having hair is overrated
>>77422656It's a very telling diversion considering this is a weight loss thread.It means they are admitting that keto is the indisputably best diet for weight loss.
>>77422445Thanks for replies frens, in the end ended up treating myself to a plate of homemade cooking that brought my daily total calories to just over 2000. Most I had in a week for sure.
>>77422665
Fatty ContestMyDemocracy237lbs5'8"
>>77422665You were the one claiming keto regrows hair and yet you've still to post your hairline
>>77422633Are you the anon that's always collecting them? If so, where's your boy?
>>77422686What a pervert
>>77422673kek
keto will add 2 inches to your penis with weight loss
>protein powder>greek yogurt>costco grilled chipotle chicken>frozen roasted vegetable mix>mixed nutsif i eat this diet daily, how bad would my body be screwed? what should i add to make up for deficiencies?
>>77422715correlation =/= causation. fact check: penis growth will appear to happen due to loss of fat regardless of diet.
>>77422766only thing I can think of is vitamin c, but you could just take some daily multivitamins to cover for that
>>77422835>>77422835>>77422835>>77422835
>>77421531i was right! i'm lighter todaylet's gooooooooo
>>77422789Even in women??