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>Who is /fat/ for?
For obesity obliterators who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq
https://f-droid.org/packages/fr.shiningcat.simplehiit/

Previous thread: >>77416645
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--adding below info on anons request, can't fit it in the OP--
hunger associated with Vitamin D deficiency
>Appetite disturbances were significantly associated with increased odds of Vitamin D deficiency, even after controlling for depression and other confounders. However, due to the cross-sectional design, causality cannot be inferred. Prospective studies are needed to clarify this association's directionality and underlying mechanisms.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1499404625002660

Vitamin D helping in weight loss
>After using vit D supplementation for 6 weeks, WT (weight), WC (waist circumference), and body mass index (BMI) were decreased significantly and serum vit D increased significantly compared to control group
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6071442/

us fatties having lower vitamin D
>High prevalence of vitamin D (VD) deficiency in obese subjects is a well-documented finding, most probably due to volumetric dilution into the greater volumes of fat, serum, liver, and muscle, even though other mechanisms could not completely be excluded, as they may contribute concurrently
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6780345/
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want a 20 inch meatza so bad bros
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>>77420110
i gave ur mum a 20 inch meatza m8
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>>77420099
Remember to never eat carbs.
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>tried to hide the time on my phone to stop me from compulsively checking it while fasting
>android doesnt let you

Fml man
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>>77420121
Gottem hahahah
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>>77420110
>>77420121
keeek
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>>77420127
How long are you fasting? I'm on 24 hours and will go probably for 96 hours.
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>>77420123
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>>77420158
Im trying to go for 30 if not 48. 96 is insane. Basically at the same time though, Im at 25 hrs
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>>77420159
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>>77420161
I'm going for 96 to get the stem cell gains. My longest fast is 9 days so 4 days should be easy.
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>>77420166
Good luck man. Hopefully I can do longer fasts too eventually, although Ive done several 7 day fasts but those were a long time ago
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what a waste of time
I get all the way down to 75 kg at 6 ft tall and I still have love handles and lower back fat what a waste of time this was
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>>77420194
tfw this is gonna be me in 6kgs
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Will losing weight and gaining muscle make cellulite go away or am I fucked? Yes I'm a guy, 6ft 205lbs. I seriously thought I had hypogonadism but I got checked and my test is like 675. Free test is on the lower end of normal, something like 13pg/dl. Estradiol levels are also normal. Wtf could have cause this? My max weight was 300lbs, over about 2-3 years I lost a lot due to nutrient malabsorption, not really dieting or exercise.
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I've been very depressed and trying to lose weight
Asked the doc to add test to my bloodwork this time
Test measured at 15.3 nmol/L
In the last 5 years, it measured 10.2, 12.4, and now 15.3, so it's somehow actually increasing, even tho I feel ever more depressed, fuuuuuuuck
I really hoped it would be a hormonal thing and not a "need therapy" kinda thing
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>>77420215
This is 441.2 in american units
Also the bloodwork keeps showing very low levels of vitamin B9 and vitamin D, those are literally low every year I test them, the doc gives me some supplements to do for a couple months and then nothing; it's clearly not working, what do?
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Fatty Contest
AngloSperg
239.4
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asking again, which GLP1 does /fat/ rec?
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>fall off the wagon
>don't regain any of the weight I lost
I'm not sure how my body actually works at this point.
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what does your room look like, /fat/?
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>>77420276
whre does /fat/ rec to get GLPs in eu?
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>>77420218
The published vitamin D reccomendation is 10x lower than what you really need. Yes it's jews.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4210929/

Therapy isn't going to do shit, your problem is a societal one. Take ashwaganda on bad days, don't use it continuously, don't mix it with alcohol and other medication. Drink saint johns wort tea regularly. Up your vitamin D supplementation. Go outside when there's nice weather.
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>>77420218
>>77420103
>>77420316
I took those D2 50,000 IUs once per week and it never raised my levels, but lower doses of D3 daily did.
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>>77420316
A video on it if you want the explanation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtoxkK7MeKc
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I'm thinking of doing rolling fasts, most likely 72 to 96 hours. I'm drinking water with a little salts (potassium, sodium, magnesium) and bicarbonate (baking soda), is there something else recommended for supplements for fasting these days?
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>>77420377
recycling cum
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I'm constantly thinking about southern fried chicken but I don't even have any kitchen and no place that sells them.
I don't even know where to buy buttermilk because I live in an asian country
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how to beat boredom?
when I'm at work, whatever, I don't have access to food, but when I'm at home and bored I feel myself either wanting to eat or jack off.. what do
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>>77420403
Walk
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>Continues logging foods for 1000+ days
>Thinks by logging I will stay at a stable weight
>Don't weigh myself for a few months (more than a few months)
>Silly fucking me
>weight myself today
>gain 20lbs
>despair
I thought will power was enough, what the actual fuck, I told myself I wasn't going to become boogie2088 by just gaining all that weight back
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>>77420403
fmib learning linux & listening to music to curb boredom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVBn6cRkVus
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>>77420403
Used to be exactly like this but then I started running and walking. It does something to your blood sugar.
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>>77420416
I did a 25 mile hike + 15 miles on day 2 over the weekend and now my feet are raped and I can only hobble at the minute. It's so brutal, I want to go for a walk after I eat
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>>77420403
>how to beat boredom?
learn Japanese
Resources for learning Japanese.
https://djtguide.github.io/
Genki 1
https://files.catbox.moe/sronwq.zip
Genki 2
https://files.catbox.moe/mt4rtu.zip
Genki teacher
https://files.catbox.moe/hrnkdx.zip
Hiragana/Katakana/Kangxi radicals Anki decks and Yotsuba Learning Pack
https://files.catbox.moe/9x3me2.zip
Anki 2k6k
https://mega.nz/folder/iZU2QL5R#2Xcqyk__-Qqa0YAwJh6M7Q

also learning programming like python is also a great life skill. this tutorial video course is fairly decent
https://1337x.to/torrent/5790279/Automate-the-Boring-Stuff-with-Python-Programming/
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Anyone here have a habit of picking your lips? How do I stop this?
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>>77420431
Do you have something lile this for other languages?
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>>77420305
like your picture but spread out in a bigger room
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>>77420306
Tirzepatide is better, in terms of side effects and weight loss. Semaglutide is cheaper (for the script route).

Reta cannot be perscribed and might worsen pre existing heart conditions and its side effect profile isn't as well known. It, however, produces the best weight loss.

Remember, GLPs don't replace counting calories. They just reduce appetite.
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>>77420403
video games
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>>77420431
>python
okay grandpa, nah learn rust its on the up. theres no point learning old timey saturated languages.
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>>77420443
This nonny brat needs correction!!!
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>>77420431
learn cobol
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>>77420431
I'm going to sounds like a psycho but I already did that
I learned japanese years ago, enough to read LNs/VNs, but in the last year and change I've just stopped enjoying everything I used to enjoy like japanese media and even games...
Yeh pretty depresso
>>77420441
see above, haven't been able to enjoy a videogame in a while
>>77420439
the doctor won't give a fucking script for glps because I'm not technically super obese, but I want abs fuuuuuck I just don't really like the idea of injecting stuff and don't have a trusted source...
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Fatty Contest
GTAIVCompleteEdition
287.6lbs
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>>77420443
python is one of the recommended beginner languages, and it's pretty neat for just getting started because of all the repositories
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>>77420453
>plays VNs
>wonders why hes bored
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>>77420453
>I'm going to sounds like a psycho but I already did that
>I learned japanese years ago, enough to read LNs/VNs, but in the last year and change I've just stopped enjoying everything I used to enjoy like japanese media and even games...
>Yeh pretty depresso
you could start scanlating. maybe that'd give you some interest again
Scanlation school script
https://files.catbox.moe/qp0u73.js
Scanlation school fonts
https://files.catbox.moe/pi24nf.zip
Kobo
https://cdn.kobo.com/downloads/desktop/Rakutenbooks/kobosetup.exe
https://cdn.kobo.com/downloads/desktop/Rakutenbooks/kobosetup.dmg
DeDrm
https://github.com/noDRM/DeDRM_tools/releases/tag/v10.0.9
https://calibre-ebook.com/

Public raws
https://888dl.ps/
https://ww4.manga-zip.app/
https://dl-raw.ac/
https://ww1.manga-zip.tv/
https://dlraw.cc/
https://manga-zip.is/post

Panel Cleaner (Cleaning and OCR)
https://github.com/VoxelCubes/PanelCleaner
IOPaint (free generative fill, a bit obsolete but works)
https://www.iopaint.com/
TypeR (Typesetting extension for photoshop)
https://typer.hayasaku.fr/

And Hakuneko I guess.
https://github.com/manga-download/hakuneko
Also Miniconda is pretty neat for those python programs.
https://www.anaconda.com/docs/getting-started/miniconda/main
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>>77420434
I did as a kid, in 4th grade I would bite and pick at the skin on my lips. As an adult I peel the skin on my finger tips mostly
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AI is now saying that visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fat. Has this been retconned? Hello, Nelson Mandela!
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>>77420505
its entirely upto timing and genetics. if you wondered why some people with the same weight have night and day fat deposits it plays a role in overall visceral fat.

someone whos been overweight since childhood will have significantly more visceral fat (and a harder time losing it) vs someone who caked on 300lb as an adult. however the former will suffer significantly less skin problems than the latter.
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>>77420505
>AI is now saying that visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fat. Has this been retconned? Hello, Nelson Mandela!
you'd be surprised how things are deliberately changed in history by manipulating stuff like wikipedia and google
I remember alanis morisette being groomed by her manager twice her age, and she wrote a song about it called you oughtta know. but some time between 2020 and now I think, this got retconned and some other guy claimed that he was the guy the song was about, and all the information sources was changed
I guess she probably was sued by her manager or something, and her lawyers fixed it up. her manager would have far bigger issues with being labeled a pedophile today than back then
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>>77420505
>visceral fat is less stubborn than subcutaneous fat
sounds wrong, anyone who's trying to lose weight knows that it's the stomach that's the hardest to get rid of. while fat in your face is typically the first to go
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>>77420505
Why would you trust an AI to provide any factual value at all?
>>77420512
>>77420519
Only partially true. One thing a lot of people miss is that the stomach area also has subcutaneous fat deposits, and this is somewhat hard to tell apart from the visceral fat at a glance.
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>>77420519
>fat in your face is typically the first to go
this scares me, im 30yo and people still mistake me for being 18-20. I dont want to rapidly age with weight loss lol
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only way humans can gain weight is by eating fat

carbs burn as heat. especially glucose, wont turn to fat.

de novo lipogenesis is simply too inefficient process for human body and actually costs calories rather than burning them away as net energy loss.

that's why there are several billions of asians who are thin and no heart disease or type 2 diabetes, eating only rice and noodles
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>>77420599
or... more logically, asians have a culture of not being lazy fatasses that use cars to travel everywhere. even their hikiNEETs walk to the store for their ramen noodles.
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>>77420603
>asians have a culture of not being lazy fatasses that use cars to travel everywhere
you know that it's only like this in the us by design because they want to sell cars, right? there's no other country in the world that's designed with using cars everywhere than the US, you guys have been duped into thinking that's normal to make money out of you

>>77420599
you could like just do a quick google search to prove you wrong anon
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>>77420612
>you could like just do a quick google search to prove you wrong anon

you can find thousand studies showing whatever you like these days, especially keto pro studies

but once people understand fat is making them fat, they finally lose their weight. currently everybody is taught the opposite,

AVOID CARBS CARBS MAKE YOU FAT. these people will have no hope of losing weight long term, because glucose is main fuel of human body and brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUWcgh5Ju9g
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Does the amount or frequency of pooping have anything to do with energy usage or gut health or weight loss?
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>>77420620
At this point I don't know who or what to believe. You can find videos of all sorts of people losing massive amounts of weight by doing all kinds of weird shit. I try to count calories and not overeat any one macro and trust that eventually I will lose the weight.
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>>77420626
If the back of your toilet bowl doesn't look like a WWI trench than you aren't shitting enough.
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>>77420403
Learn to draw or play music, hobbies like that that are sedentary but need a lot of focus and thinking are ideal for not falling to bad vices
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>>77420626
if you're on ketosis you bare even poop because more or less everything is absorbed by your body..
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>>77420316
>just inhale powdered feces pills from india i swear its an ancient mystical secret bro
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>>77420620
this zoot is regurgitating bunk science from the 1990s, laugh at him
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>>77420612
its not though. australia is no different from the US in that regard.
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36 hrs here I come babyyyyy
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>>77420630
How do I poop more? My weight seems to stay relatively the same
>>77420641
Is this true? I eat a lot of vegetables
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>>77420676
>Is this true? I eat a lot of vegetables
vegetables are mainly water, so there's practically just a small amount of fiber left after absorbsion
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I'm on day 26 of a water fast. I've been drinking water, diet soda and supplement for vitamins/minerals and electrolyte. I was 240 pounds, and I've lost almost twenty pounds. I don't feel bad at all. I can't stand the keto breath. It makes my mouth taste like fruity nail polish. What is best to deal with it?
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>>77420691
Bubble gum
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>the less you weight the slower the weight loss becomes
How do you deal with this?
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Absolute trash macros but whatever.
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>>77420691
Damn 26 days that's crazy I gotta get like you man
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>>77420629
The guy you're replying to is a vegan. He wants you to eat a plant-based high carb diet because he thinks it will save animals. He doesn't care if you are fat. He would probably prefer if you died because then you wouldn't be harming animals.

Low-carb works. Low-fat doesn't. Pic related.
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>>77420704
>can't eat carbs
>can't eat fat
What can you eat?
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>>77420704
>he thinks it will save animals
more likely he's selling some kind of product
people aren't usually this aggressive about something unless they're either making money on it, or they're mentally ill
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>>77420705
You can eat fat. Just no carbs.
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>>77420705
Nothing, you have hundreds of thousands of calories just sitting on your body waiting to be digested. Piggies don't need to eat, that pleasure is reserved for humans with normal body weights.
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>>77420707
He's 100% a vegan. The video he linked is a vegan doctor. Nobody watches vegan doctors other than vegans. Everyone knows vegans are unhealthy.
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>>77420702
The first week I felt like ass, but it's been clear sailing from there. When you stop eating food (and I really ate badly, and at big amounts), you realise how much you ate because you were bored, not because you were hungry.
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>>77420711
I struggle to much with lightheadeadness and almost fainting everytime I stand up, and being weak as hell and barely able to walk the stairs. I think my longest run is just five days.
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>>77420711
I certainly eat because I am bored and yet I still think about food constantly when I am fasting, because I am bored. I am still very in favour of fasting. I am fasting right now. I'm just saying it's not easy to get over boredom.
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>>77420716
I fell for the mega fast propaganda once. Went 12 days and developed my first ever kidney stone a week later. Never again.
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anyone have advice on doing Bulgarian Split Squats as an overweight dude? a single set of 8 reps nearly made me feel like i was going to legitimately die, the balancing coupled with how fucking difficult it was made me wonder if this exercise is classified as a torture method
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how are people falling for such obvious bait
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>>77420725
they're like that even if you're not overweight
they're pretty decent for build work capacity though
but you might want to relax a little until you get comfortable doing them
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Hungry? Don't have calories to spare? Try this:

Cut zucchini into 3-4mm thick slices and put salsa on top. Raw zucchini is crunchy, pretty flavorless and not very watery so it acts like a chip. A plate of zucchini salsa chips is like 50 calories.
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>>77420121
LOL
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>>77420099
>wake up
>get out of bed
>almost faint because my body had a mere 2200 calories yesterday instead of its tdee of 2600
holy fuck my body should have its own stand-up comedy show
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>>77419210
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>>77420695
GLP1 babbies are going to hit this wall when their doctors dont continue their script and gain the weight back
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>>77420771
I hit the wall as a natty, what's my cope protocol?
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>>77420431
I’ve been learning Java, it’s more fun than Qing ranked in league of legends or apex, keeps my mind off food
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>urine is orange no matter how much water I drink
>drank quite literally 2 gallons of water yesterday and today
okay what the fuck, am I dying?
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>>77420795
Like deep orange? Go to the ER anon
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>>77420795
Are you superdosing vitamin B-complexes? Eating a lot of carrots? If its deep orange, see a doctor and probably collect a urine sample to give them too.
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>eat a big lunch
>get home
>30 minutes later I can feel my brain slow down
>struggle doing anything and just exist in a fog for the next four hours
>piss
>can't see the bottom of the toilet it is so cloudy
>feel a little better afterwards brain is back to 75% of normal function
It's over for me isn't it? My grandfather died of the betus. I'm too scared to go to the doctor, it's not like they can even do anything for me.
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>>77420816
Stop eating carbs.
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>>77420816
>I'm too scared to go to the doctor
they can like make a prescription for metformine
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>>77420816
Go to a doctor and get on medication or you will die
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>>77420803
>>77420809
light orange but still, it should be clear with a tint of yellow.
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>>77420860
Depending on your meds and supplements, that color is fine. A tint of yellow or fairly yellow is good. But if you're drinking 2 gallons, thats too much water and piss color should stop being your hydration gauge.
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>>77420816
>it's not like they can even do anything for me
are you stupid? go to the doctor and get treatment or you're going to die.
seriously.
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>>77420401
I probably shouldn't tell you this but nigga just make the buttermilk yourself it's literally 2 ingredients.
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>>77420882
Go to your nearest Jollibee they have the fried chicekns.
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>>77420401
>asian country
bro just admit you're indian kek
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Man this pan fried tandoori chicken idea turned out nice. Slice the breasts in half to make them thinner and rub with olive oil, tandoori spice and lemon juice. Marinate them for a few hours and then fry on a hot pan, flip once there is some charring on the bottom.
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>>77420291
basal metabolic rate is not constant
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>>77420291
building good habits and keeping to them is well as important as the weight loss
learning to not overeat, not snacking, eating smaller portions, fixed meals all work to avoid gaining weight again
it requires more discipline and willpower to keep the weight than to lose it
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What's the best/your favorite brand of cottage cheese?
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>>77421000
Fuck some are still pink inside, back into the pan they go.
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>>77420403
Walk or find a way to hack your brain. You're just searching for a dopamine source. Rewire how that works. Start keeping track of macros and if you're OCD enough, you'll start getting dopamine hits from hitting your macros. Then going on walks will fill the time while you are anticipating the dopamine you'll get from having succeeded in hitting your macros. Then you will start looking better and seeing women take interest in you. Then the walks become even more interesting because you might meet a woman. Etc etc.
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I weigh as much as the average Murrican wahman
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>>77420674
Letsgoooo we makin it out the hood w this one. Now let me make it to 48
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>>77421132
Lfgoooo
My eating window is on Wednesday
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>>77421159
Bros gotta be doing omaw
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>>77421166
bro's unironically doing the butterfield diet plan
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>>77420746
A similar thing I do sometimes is salt then crisp up low carb tortillas in a pan or oven and break them apart into tortilla chip sized pieces. Honestly tastes good on their own but would be better with salsa. High fiber and decently low calories (the ones I get are 60 kcal per tortilla, 2 is enough to satisfy cravings)
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Sauerkraut is a very yummy topping for avocado toast I was having a hard time figuring out how to eat it
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did PT then went shopping afterwards was lightheaded and passed out when i got home
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its so cold outside an its 2am and I cant sleep because my sleep schedule is all fucked up all I can think about is downing some bread with butter toasted and a glass of hot chocolate milk
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>>77420099
>be me
>go on vacation with family
>decide to enjoy myself and not bother with tracking food or weighing myself
>try listening to body
>week passes
>go home
>go on scale
>only gained 200g
I think I finally understand, anon. Really happy.
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I'm a newfag (to /fit/). I'm trying to lose like 30 pounds or so. I've been using these calorie tracking apps to track my eating throughout the day. My goal is 1900 calories a day, roughly 500 defecit. According the the apps (I've tried a couple), I've been easily meeting that goal if not significantly under it. I swear I'm being as accurate as possible with weights and measurements, and I'm making sure to include everything I'm eating, even olive oil I use to cook, etc. The problem is it feels to easy. I feel full as fuck for most of the day. Should I trust these apps or do some of you notice they tend to undersell the amounts of calories in food? This is also the first time I'm eating high-protein, whole foods, so maybe this is just the power of not eating bullshit.
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>>77420099
I'm 260lbs and I cant even do 10 push ups.
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>>77421332
push ups have nothing to do with weight its a basic ass muscle thing for your arms
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>>77421371
Please be trolling, please. I can't take it if this is a serious post.
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>>77421374
nta but while yea, obviously extremes in weights will effect it if youre really fat, but not for a guy whos just 260
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>>77421374
its literally nothing , fatties can do push ups and its no excuse. hes talking 10 push ups
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So not trolling just really really stupid. Well that is depressing but not unexpected.
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>>77421327
Just do psmf for 48-72 hours a week.
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I love walking
I think it’s the best exercise
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>>77421173
hey it works for that skinny asian guy who eats 20k cal in one sitting and then runs 50 marathons or whatever
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>>77420620
>>77420123

Cool, cool. So we've got the Keto 'no carbs' idiot and now a 'no fat' guy. We're missing the 'is it good to drink cow piss' fella though.
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>>77420795
It shouldn't ever be orange. Are you the Kool-aid Man?
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>>77421453
You know I think the game theory optimal diet is the following:
A balanced diet
Have some carbs, some fats and some protein
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>>77421453
Niggas be like "I'm keto" and aren't even in keto. Just tricking themselves into unnecessary suffering.
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>>77421453
>'is it good to drink cow piss' fella
i miss him
wonder if anyone started drinking that shit
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Hello /fat/ my old friend
I've come to talk with you again
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>>77421465
I thought he was a legend?
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>>77421426
nice:)
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>>77420705
protein. inb4 rabbit starvation
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FUCK!
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>>77421501
Admitting kg is the best but still using Burger dates. Why?
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>>77421332
when I started, I couldn't even do a single pushup at 114kg. been keeping at exercising, now I can do about 21 in a single go. just keep pushing yourself.
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day 17 of plateau
tomorrow is going to be the day it drops again, i can feel it...
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>>77421509
cause I copy pasted the dates from the losertown calc in the sticky
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>>77421327
read the OP to calculate your fat% and TDEE.
apps overestimate your TDEE usually. by a lot.
their food calories are pretty on point in my experience.
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>>77421332
i'm 180 pounds and can barely do 10
>>77421471
hi
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Why are knees so fucking boney, can't sleep on my side anymore, can't cross my legs anymore, can't stretch one leg over the other without being in pain. No one warned me about this
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>>77420795
it's only orange when you are dehydrated.
Something is wrong here, anon.
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>>77421547
you need to put a pillow between your legs if you want to side sleep still
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>>77421547
>>77421572
try this.
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The good boy chart is working :3
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Dropped 6 pounds in one day. Fasting ftw
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>gained 12lbs in one day
*belch*
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well... 2 months in. down from 114kg to 103.9kg this morning
I'm doing 4 day split resistance training, eating 1900 kcal daily and I need to go buy new pants because even the ones that "didn't quite fit" are now falling off
I'm not really sure how much pure fat I lost
I'm also 30 days in on daily creatine so basically fully saturated I think and I'm getting 150-ish grams of protein daily some days even more
I can now comfortably fit in picrel which I couldn't do since almost over 12 years ago

I should mention, my all time high was 130kg back in late 2020 and during 2021 I went down from 130 to 102kg but I put on 12 from 2022 until midway in 2026

I still see myself as pretty fat but I have started to get compliments, tshirts drape off my chest which is a bit of a confidence boost, but I find the progress to be slow as fuck
my neck does look thicker and my arms and legs look much leaner, my stomach doesn't hang nearly as much when I lay down on my side
overall I feel pretty good about myself
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>>77421460
>eating unlimited delicious food without measuring or tracking it
>suffering
CICO is suffering. You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diary, force yourself to be hungry, and avoid good tasting food because it is too "calorie dense".

I feel sorry for you.
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>>77421609
>You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diary,
I do that and I actually like it, it stimulates my natural autism
>force yourself to be hungry
I'm in a deficit and I'm never hungry be cause I don't rely on simple refined carbs
>good tasting food because it is too "calorie dense".
you mean goyslop?
do whatever works for you, if it's keto or cico or atkins or whatever
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>>77420453
you can get it prescribed online from a trusted source. even amazon will do it now.
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>>77421623
not in italy afaik
5th world country fml
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>>77421638
go to a different doctor are u at least obese?
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>>77421621
No I mean things like ribeye steak, butter, bacon, full fat sour cream, creme fraiche, eggs with the yolk, regular ground beef, etc.

Calorie cultists won't even eat their chicken with skin. CICO is a sad unnatural existence.

And if you were satiated you wouldn't have to restrict calories so I know you are lying. You force yourself to be hungry. That's why you log your food in a diary so you know when to stop eating.

The saddest part about CICO is it doesn't even work. All that misery and you will end up fat.
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>noon
>already at 1200 calories
it's so over
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>>77421654
idk man, I'm doing cico and I eat all these
>ribeye steak, butter, bacon, full fat sour cream, creme fraiche, eggs with the yolk, regular ground beef
especially eggs, full fat dairy and ground beef+pork mixed, albeit in moderation
>And if you were satiated you wouldn't have to restrict calories so I know you are lying.
what's being satiated have to do with anything? if you're 400lbs you need more kcals to maintain vs someone who weighs 180, that doesn't mean you should keep eating like a hog and stay at 400lbs
what kind of retarded take is that?
you do you, don't like cico? don't do it. simple as
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>>77421609
>You have to measure all the food you eat, log it in a diary
My friend, who do you think you're talking to? This is the internet's home for autism and obsessives. You are describing our perfect saturday night. I built my own app to track food because the existing ones are too focused on normies and lack charts and graphs.
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>>77421654
>The saddest part about CICO is it doesn't even work
thermodynamics denier has entered chat
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>>77421668
Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.

>>77421669
Cool but you're fat.

>>77421671
Post body let's see your CICO results.
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>>77421327
It's the power of not eating bullshit
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>>77421679
>Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.
if you eat more calories than you burn, you gain weight. there is no way around it.
again, you do you. I really don't care.
I don't even understand your argument, I never even said anything about carbs vs fat or whatever. just that I count my calories because it does help me lose weight.
>but KETO IS SUPERIOR AND FASTER
ok?
why are you spazzing out?
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Food calorie counters eat:
- zucchini with salsa >>77420746
- skinless chicken breasts >>77421000

Food ketochads eat:
- burgers >>77421609 >>77421654
- unlimited bacon
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>>77421669
>I built my own app to track food because the existing ones are too focused on normies and lack charts and graphs.
publish it on F Droid
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>>77421687
You can eat more calories and lose more body fat if you avoid carbs.
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>>77421691
what is even your argument?
do you think I'm eating donuts and getting the "low-fat" produce at the supermarket?
no, retard.
I need 3200 calories a day stay as I am, eventually if I overeat I will get bigger, oh looks like it's time to cut. so I slash 600kcal and eat at 2600 for a few weeks and SURPRISE, I lose the weight.
golly gee how the fuck could that happen?
I enjoy the autism of tracking everything and counting and adding up, it makes it enjoyable and the only practically difference in my day to day is down to how much quantity of whatever I was already going to eat do I actually eat.
simple and effective
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>>77421696
You're doing a diet where you eat unappealing food, you have to measure and track calorie estimates in a diary, you have to force yourself to be hungry, and the end result is you will be fat because it doesn't work (pic related).

I am eating a diet where I eat unlimited delicious food, don't measure any of it, never go hungry, and I have been lean for years.
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>>77421701
> I have been lean for years.
post body with timestamp
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>>77421703
Way ahead of you. See: >>77420123
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Should I be worried about gallstones with fasting?
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>>77421703
he won't/can't
he's just some weird old dude that lives in these threads larping and spamming
it's best to just ignore him fullstop
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>>77421712
As long as you eat plenty of dietary fat when you're not fasting you won't get gallstones. Gallstones are caused by low-fat diets.
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>>77421714
Stay mad, hater.
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>>77421707
>2021
>>77421717
>no timestamp
lmao
post body with timestamp
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thinking of making a YouTube channel for the weight loss journey as an extra bit of motivation
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>>77421725
I've also had this idea but then I remember all the lolcows that did the same and I stop
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>>77421718
I can't tell if you're dishonest or just a moron.

If CICO worked you wouldn't have to be such a seething hater.
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>>77421679
>Cool but you're fat.
As Churchill once said: Sir, I may be fat, but tomorrow I can chose to lose weight; you, however, will still be a cunt.

>>77421690
Maybe. if i ever get round to making it support accounts and user choices. Lot of hardcoding right now.
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>that shitty photoshop on the most "recent" one
kek
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>>77421701
Thanks for the unsourced chart with an unexplained 2 year gap in the middle! I'm convinced!!
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>>77421735
just take your shirt off put the time and date on a piece of paper and post the pic
it's that easy
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>>77421725
Most likely gonna get like two views don't waste your time
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>3 weeks plateau after a huge drop
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>>77421754
happened to me, 2 weeks no change then drop
2 weeks no change then drop
it's just water take the place of fat in your cells, the woosh is real
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>>77421756
I just hope there is another drop by next week.
Then again, my sleep has been shit lately, so that might be why the water weight is persistent
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>>77421735
No one on keto is a Chad. It is a diet for losers.
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>>77421739
You can't lose weight. You believe in CICO.

>>77421742
The explanation is that CICO destroys your metabolism and causes weight regain.

>>77421748
Sure I'll take a new photo after you post yours. Then we can have another physique comparison to help /fat/ anons judge what is the best diet strategy.
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>>77421732
yeah I def have lolcow opinions but it would just be for weight loss journeying. I had the idea yesterday of doing a live coaching series over 5 years so someone else watching it 5 years from now sees the progress I made and feel more inclined to better themselves. Instead of so many other fitness channels made by twiggies with no real experience losing weight themselves.
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>>77421764
>Sure I'll take a new photo after you post yours
lmao, cope and seethe ketoschizo
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>>77421799
I routinely post photos and have demonstrated sustained weight loss.

You are obese and won't post even one photo.

If CICO worked you wouldn't be a fat seething hater.
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>>77421761
>No one on keto is a Chad. It is a diet for losers.
the main advantage of keto in my opinion is that you feel way less terrible and tired than on ordinary diet, and you feel way less hungry
it's not particularly more advanced than that. I think that the people speaking about other advantages of keto are speaking out of their ass honestly. it's still cico, just with less disadvantages
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>>77421769
This is known as counting your chickens before they hatch. Most people fail at weight loss. You will as well unless you stop eating carbs.
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>>77421802
>I routinely post photos and have demonstrated sustained weight loss.
>refuses to post
lol, lmao even ok ketofatty
I bet you have plump puffy tits
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>>77421173
>butterfield diet plan
come to think of it, I bet this would actually work IRL. Surely you couldn't eat enough in one day to stay fat after 6 days of fasting. You'd need to eat what, 20,000 calories or something?
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>>77421807
uhhhh, I dont consume carbs bro. where did I say I did?. anyways the idea is like, if a fellow 400lb+ whale is looking for help to lose weight they would be losing it in real time with my videos seeing the progress knowing it works so they're motivated to stay the path.
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>>77421754
Time to do a 48 hr fast
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>>77421827
my fast is 48 hours in two hours
not sure how long I'm going to go for, but if I hang on until friday it's a 120 hour fast, so that's my goal
but no biggie if it ends too early
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Can anyone debunk this?
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imagine if you did keto and CICO at the same time
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>>77421846
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>>77421846
>imagine if you did keto and CICO at the same time
that's what I do
I think it's silly thinking that keto is something miraculous compared to other weight loss
it makes you feel less bad and tired and that's it
you still need to have a caloric deficit, since it's a caloric deficit that makes you lose weight
keto only helps with getting a caloric deficit, there's nothing else special about it
don't be like those retards that think there's some miraculous advantage and those calories count less or something like that. I've got a friend like that and he just refuses to listen to basic biochemisty
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Fatty Contest
fuckinghippie
101.4kg
184cm
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>>77421855
kek
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hypothetically speaking how much would i have to lift in order to be able to eat whatever i want? i'm a NEET so i have unlimited time to lift
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>>77421893
Lifting doesn't increase your metabolism that much to allow you to eat whatever. Endurance cycling on the other hand would do that.
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>>77421846
>>77421863
this is what sane people do yeah. limit carbs to 10%, limit daily intake 30% below TDEE. Its that simple.
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>>77421893
Do cardio instead.
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>>77421895
>>77421898
i do have a stationary bike in front of my computer
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>>77421893
Just fast. Im rolling 47hr fasts and the best part is being able to eat whatever I want when my eating window comes. I just ate three fried chicken sandwiches and a shitton of fries and I'll probably lose weight. No calorie counting or anything. Just don't go absolutely crazy and you'll be fine
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>>77421877
178 cm
100 kg
I don't have any big goals, would be great to get under bmi 30 so down to 95 kg, but best would be to get down to bmi 25, 80 kg. I'll just keep going and see where I end up.
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>>77421897
>this is what sane people do yeah. limit carbs to 10%, limit daily intake 30% below TDEE. Its that simple.
for keto you need to have less than 50 g carbs a day, so just limiting to 10 percent is going to break the keto
the entire point of keto dissapears if you're not in ketosis, then it's just low carbo
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>>77421813
literally counting chickens before they hatch
reach the goal and then you can talk about your success
in all honesty, would you want or take advice on weightloss from a 600lbs whale? probably not, I know I wouldn't
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>>77421841
Yes, easily.
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>>77421834
Nice. You're one hour ahead of me. I will be at 48 hours shortly after you. We are fasting buddies. You can make it.
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>>77421813
Well if you don't consume carbs you will definitely make it. You should document your progress because it will be a good example.
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>>77421948
Can you post your hairline for proof?
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>>77421918
>ketosis
the body can extract up to 30kcal from each lbs of fat you have, not more
biology does not care what, when or how you eat. if you're intake is less than what you consume, the body will extract energy from fat
if it cannot extract enough energy it will start to cannibalize lean mass
the reason you should have an adequate protein intake is because your body needs amino acids for various functions, no amino acids = muscle breakdown even if you're in a calorie surplus
>newsflash
the brain actually needs a minimum of glucose for proper function, it CAN NOT run purely on ketones, if you limit carbs too much, your body breaks down muscle to amino acids to turn into glucose
keto (((works))) because you're eating highly satiating fats and you're probably eating less total calories, so...
>calorie deficit
what also happens is carb intake is insufficient so you lose muscle mass + most people don't get nearly enough protein or train enough to make the body want to keep existing muscle so more lean mass loss
I've never seen some on keto, outside of diabetics that don't for legitimate medical reasons, be anything other than skinny fats who constantly yoyo back and forth
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>>77421764
>The explanation is that CICO destroys your metabolism and causes weight regain.
It's not a study, its not peer reviewed. It's not even got a person's name on it so we can't even consider it a single data point. It doesn't explain, show or support anything. If i'm feeling generous, I'd accept it as one person's weightloss log. And for all we know that person was doing Keto in the two year gap.
They probably were thinking about it, thats why they gained all that weight, the hair loss is too light to offset the fat from all their carb-free food...
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>>77421996
It is a peer reviewed study.
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>>77421981
Why does he never respond to this?
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>>77421988
You get glucose from triglycerides.

Keto preserves muscle mass. Eating carbs causes muscle loss.
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The last 10 Kilos are very stubborn to lose
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>>77421999
Thats a different image. Showing different things.
It's from a famous NY times article tracking how the people on the Biggest Loser got on after the show.
However, even your image here shows CICO has worked for most of the contestants. Only 4 of the 14 contestants are heavier than they were at the start. Meaning 10 lost weight and kept it off. 71% of this sample were successful using CICO.
Thank you for your visible support of CICO as a weight-loss method.
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>>77422000
Same reason he respond to "post body" with pictures from months/years ago.
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feels like i get stronger but my muscles simply get less energy
looks like weight loss while building muscle is working, cant wait until i hit 12% bodyfat and eat at maintenance again, my muscles will become HUGE
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>>77420431
Not that anon but thanks for doing this, I have been trying to learn Japanese but it feels like nothing sticks, I tried reading Genki on the train and it all just slips away like water, is frustrating, I am afraid I have somehow become retarded and unable to study.
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>>77422017
your daily 4 hours of anime?
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>>77422020
I rarely watch movies or tv.
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Okay once and for all, KETOtards and CICOfags reply to this post with your hair
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>>77422039
CICO
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just bought mandarins and cherries and a couple of other fruits i cant wait to eat them this week bros
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>>77420439
>Remember, GLPs don't replace counting calories. They just reduce appetite.
this. and the appetite effect wanes over time so you have to count calories or you will have to up dosage and switch meds to more potent ones.
picrelated shows pretty well where the "free weightloss" from ozempic stopped and where I started counting calories (this is all without increasing dose)
glp1 makes counting calories and keeping to a CICO diet incredibly easy. no bad mood, no shitty binge eating episodes.
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>>77420453
if you're in the EU you can get it via a tele medicine website. the script costs 30 euros extra though :)
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>>77422039
Keto
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>>77422072
based. nothing better after a workout than fresh chilled mands and cut up oranges
>>77422054
nice mane, mane
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>>77422004
>CICO has worked for most of the contestants
They're all fat.

You're also fat. I guess this explains why CICO believers are so convinced it works: they don't mind being fat.
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>>77422004
They're both infographics based on data from a peer reviewed study. Sorry you're illiterate.
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>>77422096
Hairline status?
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>>77422039
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>>77422096
post hair schizo. If you have any left that is :^)
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>>77422104
Ketoaryans are bald btw
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>>77422091
>>77422104
high testosterone lean mean aryan machines
>>77422054
low T fat calorie counting retard

checks out!
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This general has really gone to shit
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>>77422122
Hairloss is a bitch
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>Ate a whole thing of strawberries yesterday
>Take the best poop of months today
Is this the secret?
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kinda want to buy adjustable 24kgs dumbbells for 200 bucks
is it a bad idea
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>>77422139
just lift bricks nigga
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>>77422125
Ketogenic diets cure hair loss. Pic related. See also: >>77421948

Also it's a weight loss general so why are you fearmongering about hair? Because you know keto is the best diet for weight loss.
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>>77422139
>24kgs
Long term waste of money. Go big or go home is the wrong expression. It should be go big or go to a real fucking gym.
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>>77422104
>>77422091
>>77422054
timestamp or gtfo
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>>77422104
arent you the potato enthusiast
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Honestly insane that two obese fucks on this board have been competing in trying to convince others of "their" weight loss method for a decade now instead of just losing weight themselves
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>>77422170
satisfied?
>>77422128
I had a fruit salad with extra pineapple
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>>77421547
happens with meniscus deterioration, do you get sharp pains on either 10 or 2 o'clock positions on your knees while sitting?
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Forgive me if this is off topic but does anyone else find the deadlift portion of reaching 1/2/3/4 much harder than the other parts?
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>>77422191
*one lean person and one obese vegan
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Fatty Contest
HedonisticFucker
85.0 kg
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>>77422002
retard
carbs replenish glycogen and help muscle protein synthesis
only a small fraction of triglycerides can be converted to glucose but the human body is literally incapable of doing it
you are intentionally spreading false information or you're legitimately retarded
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>>77422147
>Ketogenic diets cure hair loss.
So POST
YOUR
HAIRLINE
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>>77422298
Incorrect Carbcel
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>>77422054
CICO
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>>77422303
prove me wrong retard
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>>77422307
I already did
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>>77422308
you did no such thing
you made a retarded statement and I told you why you're statement is retarded
so go ahead, prove you're right
>protip: you can't
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>>77422298
Carbs cause muscle loss because they raise insulin. Insulin blocks fat burning. When fat burning is blocked your body catabolizes muscle for energy.

Pic related. Carbs cause lower muscle mass and higher adiposity at the same body weight.
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>>77422311
You already lost
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>>77422312
>rodents
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>>77422312
you do realize not all carbs are refined sugar that instantly spikes your blood glucose, right?
>posts study on rats
ok
muscles need glycogen to function correctly, especially if you're doing weights
no carbs = no glycogen = bad performance = negligible if any gains
you're retarded
>b-but much triglycerides
humans cannot convert fatty acids from triglycerides into glucose
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>>77422314
cool, post body with timestamp
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>>77422054
>>77422306
>>77422104
>>77422091
none of you provided timestamps and I bet you're all the same person. let it be known every retard peddling cico is a larper
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not going shopping for hours after pt ever again holy shit my whole body is fucked right now
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>>77422324
All carbs raise insulin. Insulin blocks fat burning. Carbs cause muscle loss.
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>>77422328
It's moxyte. He's a vegan from reddit who has been here for years. He, like all vegans, hates keto because it causes people to eat animal products like meat eggs and dairy.

He will occasionally sperg out and start talking about things like hair loss or disease because he knows he lost the weight loss argument.

When nobody is here to argue in favour of low-carb he will sometimes post vegan doctors telling people to eat potatoes.
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>>77422331
retard
carbs are anticatabolic, both insulin spikes and their impact on fat burning is negligible unless you're diet consists primarily of refined sugars
your graphs prove nothing, you're words prove nothing
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>>77422335
screenshot was for
>>77422328
my hairline is good because I don't have baldie genes and I don't follow retarded diets
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>>77422139
you can just buy those adjustable star lock ones for a tenth of the price
buy two sets of them and you have more than enough to train for several months
they only can handle any kind of pressure you put on them, compared to the automatic ones that get ruined easily
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>>77422165
for many it's a nice stopgap method to begin, and they might even upgrade their home gym with a barbell down the road
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>>77422335
Carbs cause muscle loss by raising insulin and blocking fat burning. The body is then forced to burn muscle for energy because it can't use fat for energy.

This is a proven scientific fact. Very easily understood by anyone.
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>>77422348
Hallucination
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My therapist told me I inspired her to start fasting. Feelsgoodmang
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Why is it that every thread I go to on this board people are arguing about carbs?
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>>77422339
>>77422342
50lb adjustable dumbbells quickly become paperweights when you progress beyond a total dyel, and they are always cheaply made. It's better to bite the bullet at the start and get something really nice like ironmasters. Regardless DBs alone are not enough for a home gym, they are optional and should be the last thing you get. You NEED a barbell, rack, plates, and bench that is ideally adjustable. Going to a gym is just better if you aren't willing to do all of that.
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>>77422352
Wow. she must be retarded.
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>>77422353
Schizos and shitposters force the topic with spam, and retards keep replying to them.
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>>77422344
I'm not sure if you're being retarded on purpose or if you're genuinely this stupid
I'll break it down for you
the body uses glucose, the easiest way to get glucose is through carbs, the second easiest way is through gluconeogenesis which breaks protein into amino acids and then into glucose
the body cannot convert fat, triglycerides or whatever else into glucose
the body can run on ketones, but the brain and some organs need a minimum of glucose to function properly, regardless of ketones
if your carb intake is insufficient, the body goes to the nest best thing, protein. if you are eating more than enough protein then congrats, your body will break down amino acids already in your blood into glucose
if not, the body starts breaking down muscle into protein into amino acids into glucose
there is no way around this
>insulin stops fat burning
it's negligible unless you 24/7 spike your blood sugar
besides, your body steadily burns fat, it doesn't happen all at once or all day. eating a cereal bar won't magically stop your weight loss
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>>77422353
>ketoschizos must defend eating unlimited bacon dipped in mayo on butter sticks
>cicoretards must defend autistically tracking every nanogram of food that enters their body
neverending cycle
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>>77422354
no you don't. not everyone is trying to be a power lifter. people can even get buff by working out with calisthenics
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>>77422352
tell her mutual sex works better for weight loss
>>77422329
whatchu buy anon
>>77422328
jackass. see >>77422201
>>77422306
nice shades. I need a new pair like that in 165mm+ width
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>>77422348
>google ai
Lol.
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>>77422353
Eliminating carbs is the most important factor for weight loss. This is an upsetting fact to vegans and carb addicts.
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>>77422352
Shes dtf
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>>77422358
Eat protein, moron.

Carbs cause less muscle and higher adiposity at any body weight. This is because carbs raise insulin more than any other macro.
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>>77422201
>believes CICO
>is obese
Typical.
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>>77422374
If you plan to do zero exercise, sure. Otherwise you're going to go through hell.
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>>77422385
Carbs have no benefit for exercise.

Eating carbs is so horrible for weight loss that unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.
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>>77422382
brother I was close to 700lb and basically just started working out, almost down to 500 now. don't have a stake in your autistic argument Im just posting hair since you accuse everyone of being bald. now post your head or shut up already
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>>77422389
>believes CICO
>is so mentally retarded he can't figure out who talks about people being bald
Typical.
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Why are CICO believers always so fat?
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>>77231192
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>>77420103
thanks, bwo. a single sentence is enough. something along the lines of
>being deficient in Vitamin D is associated with hunger and fatties are prone to Vitamin D deficiency so check and/or supplement Vitamin D
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>>77422411
>>77422414
lmao
posting images from 5 years ago vs a guy who's currently losing weight down 200lbs
imagine believing you're flexing on anyone
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>1400 calories
>so fucking full
>keep stuffing my face because food is delicious
now that hunger is solved. how to solve face stuffing despite being extremely full and satiated?
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>>77422411
>homosexual low T flower background
>chad high T tree and gadsden flag
making CICO look based
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>>77422348
he meant eating high carbs on a deficit but i wouldn't be so hasty as to claim it burns muscles
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To put a shirt break to this very valuable and insightful CICO/KETO discourse, I have a question.

Today I had a pretty active day with my smartwatch app giving me above 2000kcal active calories burned already, should end the day around 4600 total energy expenditure today or over 3000 deficit.
How scared should I be of losing muscle mass with this kind of numbers? And while it's neat to burn off half a kilo of weight in a day, I really would like to come out (still) toned at the end of the diet.

186cm, currently 95kg down from 107, balanced macros lol

How much should I have for dinner, bros?
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>>77422445
have a cup of cold steak, you'll be fine
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>>77422445
>should end the day around 4600 total energy expenditure today or over 3000 deficit.
based Olympic chad
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>>77422445
Idk if your smartwatch should be trusted unless you're at Olympian levels of activity.
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>>77422419
The image on the left is from April 28th 2026. See: >>77421735
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>>77422445
As long as your body can use fat for energy you won't lose muscle. To ensure you can use fat for energy keep your insulin low. To keep your insulin low avoid carbs.
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>>77421735
yet no pictures of his hair, curious
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>>77422488
It's a weight loss thread.
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>>77422494
okay, then post your hair in >>>/fa/18735049
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>>77422487
Nta but not true. When you're in a deficit the body wants to reduce overall energy usage and one way to do that is to have less muscle (since every gram of muscle requires energy to maintain)
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>>77422201
Brady is that you?
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>>77422494
Yet you're the one who claimed it helps with hair regrowth, now post your hairline, it's been 2 weeks almost
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>>77422509
Ketogenic diets raise metabolism.

The muscle loss on CICO with carbs is caused by insulin being elevated.
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>>77422524
Hairline baldy, post it
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>>77422519
brady? nope. I'm still somewhat new to the gen. You can call me bluto.
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>>77422201
I just noticed the AC in the top right
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>>77422533
Yeah, fat people need a/c and that guy is extremely fat.
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>>77422533
keep it on 68f dry mode mostly, last place I lived was perpetual humid swamp air
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>>77422386
>Carbs have no benefit for exercise.

Other than the fact that every single person on earth is adapted to use carbs to power their muscles, sure. If fat was even remotely close to being a replacement for carbs then ketosis wouldn't stop the minute you ate carbs.

Carbs act like a battery filled with energy while fat acts like a generator that produces power on demand and the size of that generator is small as fuck and it takes months for your body to adapt to using the energy from that generator.
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Metabolism increases by +52kcal/day for every 10% reduction in carbs on average.

People with the highest insulin secretion get +478kcal/day metabolic boost when going low-carb.
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>>77422541
Carbs have no benefit for athletes. Carbs are for fattening cattle.

And this isn't an athletic performance thread anyway. You don't need carbs to lose weight, in fact eating carbs makes weight loss fail.
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>>77422549
where your hair?
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>>77422549
>Carbs have no benefit for athletes.
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>>77422532
You just look a lot like a guy I know so I was fishing to see if it is you.
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>>77422553
Right. Carbs have no benefit for athletes. Pic related.

>We demonstrated: (i) equivalent high-intensity performance
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/nutrition/articles/10.3389/fnut.2023.1084021/full

And this is a weight loss thread. Carbs cause weight loss failure.
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>eat carbs so you can be just like an NFL player
No thanks.
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>>77422565
he would outrun you btw
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>>77422567
He would outrun baldy because he has hair and hair gives you power and energy
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>>77422567
He would have the exact same running time as himself after he went low-carb for 4 weeks, because carbs have no benefit for athletics.

And this is a weight loss thread. He is fat.
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>>77422483
you only post retarded collages, never an actual straight pic with timestamp
I bet you have gyno
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>>77422386
>Carbs have no benefit for exercise.
@grok, what is the purpose of carbohydrates?

>Carbohydrates primarily provide energy for the body. They are broken down into glucose (blood sugar), which cells use as their preferred and most readily available fuel—especially the brain, red blood cells, and working muscles. Excess glucose can be stored as glycogen in the liver and muscles for short-term use, or converted to fat for longer-term storage.
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>>77422577
Ask grok to tell you about this study: >>77422560

Pic related.
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>>77422584
@grok, how many carbs do athletes typically eat?

>Recommendations are usually expressed relative to body weight and training load (from sports nutrition guidelines such as those from the International Olympic Committee and ACSM):
>Activity level
>Approximate carbs
>Moderate training~5–7 g per kg body weight per day
>High-volume / endurance training~7–12 g per kg body weight per day
>Extreme endurance or carb-loading before eventsOften toward the higher end or temporarily higher
>For a 70 kg (154 lb) athlete this can easily mean 350–840+ grams of carbohydrate per day—far more than the typical sedentary person’s intake.
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the change i expected the least as i approach gw is the shape of my knees changing
i knew some fat was stored in that area but the visual difference is weirdly dramatic
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Genuinely how do you discern between gyno and mantits as a fatass?
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>>77422613
>eat zero carb
>win decathlon
Stay mad vegan.

This is a fat loss thread by the way.
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just ate 2000cal worth of carbs, feeling good
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>>77422622
post chest and i'll tell u
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>>77422633
I ain't a slut
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>>77422623
>that hair
ketards could never
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>>77422644
then continue to live in ignorance
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having hair is overrated
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>>77422656
It's a very telling diversion considering this is a weight loss thread.

It means they are admitting that keto is the indisputably best diet for weight loss.
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>>77422445

Thanks for replies frens, in the end ended up treating myself to a plate of homemade cooking that brought my daily total calories to just over 2000. Most I had in a week for sure.
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>>77422665
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Fatty Contest
MyDemocracy
237lbs
5'8"
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>>77422665
You were the one claiming keto regrows hair and yet you've still to post your hairline
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>>77422633
Are you the anon that's always collecting them? If so, where's your boy?
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>>77422686
What a pervert
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>>77422673
kek
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keto will add 2 inches to your penis with weight loss
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>protein powder
>greek yogurt
>costco grilled chipotle chicken
>frozen roasted vegetable mix
>mixed nuts
if i eat this diet daily, how bad would my body be screwed? what should i add to make up for deficiencies?
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>>77422715
correlation =/= causation. fact check: penis growth will appear to happen due to loss of fat regardless of diet.
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>>77422766
only thing I can think of is vitamin c, but you could just take some daily multivitamins to cover for that
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>>77422835
>>77422835
>>77422835
>>77422835
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>>77421531
i was right! i'm lighter today
let's gooooooooo
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>>77422789
Even in women??



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