First for NPP

Is there anything else I should be using for my PCT other than Enclomiphene ?

Gonna inject 3 kilos of tren into my dick

fraudbros how do i lose 7kg in a month without glps

>>77447583
Get diabetes

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>>77447568
R8 my cycle
150 test
100 mast
50mg anavar pre-workout
Slight caloric surplus

>>77447590
Wheres the tren?

>>77447590
TRT tier

>>77447592
>>77447593
If I'm taking 50mg of var 4 times a week that means I'm taking 450mg of androgen a week. Isn't that generally considered a good dose for a guy who just wants to be just past the natty limit?

>>77447606
NO
1 KG OF TREN A DAY
COME ON
LETS GET BIG

>>77447606
If your goal is passing as natty then sure go for it.

Anyone here knows a good book about peptides and how to use them? There is a lot of new things in the market and I am somewhat lost on how to use them.

>>77447590
your cycle is fine if you're already lean and want to look good on an upcoming vacation. it doesn't make sense if you're focused on long term growth

my GHK-CU and my HCG that were sealed in a hot amazon locker came through finally, and they seem to be really fused to the bottom of their vials. the powder is not loose, its like a hockey puck i cant flaff it around at all, if i shook hard it might break up the puck a bit. is it ruined?

>>77447752
thats normal, add BAC it will dissolve
DONT SHAKE IT LIKE A MONKEY RETARF

>>77447568
Is HCG suppressive?

Why am I losing 3kg after taking 50mg of HCTZ? I was 174lbs once I woke up. I took a pill of 50mg of hydrochlorothiazide this morning and by the afternoon I was 167lbs. The hell?

>>77447766
Lean is law

>>77447763
thank you, i did not shake it, had a feeling

>>77447749
reconstitute a vial, and see if it doesn't dissolve, or turns cloudy

>>77447765
Yes

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>>77447752
yeah its toast. hcg esp is not going to maintain its structure. you need to order peptides ahead of time so you have a summer supply. the powder will last a long time if it's kept cold and dark.

>>77447766
take a dbol

>>77447828
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

>>77447862
It has a very short half life though

>>77447837
used to sell peps and steroids and I politely disagree. it may be less effective than before but to say it's 100% bunk is actually unlikely. I'd still reconstitute and try it if it's for personal use, no need to throw it out right away. especially some shit like the copper peptide lol

>>77447574
NPP is undoubtedly my fav compound. Low test high NPP and moderate to high mast is where it's at

>>77447576
Torem

>>77447590
This is trt at best... Bump your test up to 700mg+ and match that dose with your master on. Thank me later

>>77447590
Also save the Anavar. Using it pre-workout is a waste. If you need a pre-workout use test base, tren base, superdrol, dball, halo or anadrol.

>>77447606
Anavar due to its short half life needs to be taken every 12 hours to maximize its efficacy

>>77447921
fair enough. i'm not personally trying anything that was baking in a locker. just going by seeing other peeps experiences.
though for my own peptide use i was paranoid about storage which seemed to keep everything strong.

>>77447837
>>77447921
i really ought to snap a picture for yalls reference, but im too lazy and its time for bed. maybe ill post one tomorrow. i dont know what is an acceptable look for it to have intuitively

How bad will anavar fuck my lipids up? 43 on TRT (100mg so actual TRT) and a low dose statin because of genetically gay cholesterol. I have test saved up because I'm prescribed 200mg so I can also mini blast test for the duration of the var. I'd like to avoid a widow maker or some other dumb shit and run eight weeks or so just to try it

>>77448249
Well considering the average cycle for it is 4-6wk depending on dose you may have to watch out, grandpa.

>>77447590
Why bother/20

Here's my next one
750mg test, 600mg EQ, 250mg deca, 6iu hgh
50mg dbol for first 8 weeks or so, maybe more
arimidex/aromasin, caber/p5p, nolva/ralox etc on hand and as needed
Excited just thinking about it

>>77448427
Damn thats a fat stack, take before/afters

>>77448032
that's 100% fair man and I think it's important to stay within the realm of risk mitigation we as individuals decide we're comfortable with

>>77448126
white powder hockey puck is extremely normal/how it's supposed to look, just reconstitute

>Hitting week 4 of tren e
>Cat woke me up
>Brain still in sleep mode
>See some freaky looking lady at my bedroom door
>Waves her fucked up fingers at me then slides sideways out of view with a grin
>Wtf.jpeg
>Hear weird clacking sound like she's chattering her giant horse teeth together

Jesus fuck I can't get it out of my head and I keep getting bursts of paranoia. Even got up to piss and take a quick look around. I knew you could get nightmares on tren but I didn't think it was like THAT

This is some 5spoopy7me /x/ tier shit niggas

>>77448752
should’ve raped her

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I got a vial of Test E just waiting to get another vial or two before I start to avoid running out with shipping complications.
I'm going just stay on it for life as a TRT dose with periodic blasts so no PCT. Maybe do some var or something what do you guys recommend for my blast phase? I want to stay away from tren, I'm aggressive enough.

>>77448979
You're right. Ain't lettin no sleep paralysis demon steal my gainz. Gotta maintain dominance, start jacking off next time

>>77448249
Impossible to know. Depends on your genetics and how much cardio you do. Var fucked my lipids up more than anything, but even with 50mg a day they were still in range.

>>77447956
how does it differ from high test low npp

Any benefits of using Sustanon over regular Test E or C ?

>>77449354
You need to pin as often with sustanon as with shorter esters but the consequences of not are only like 25-50% as bad since its a mix of short and long esters instead of just one
It's meant to let you pin less often but doesn't really do a great job of that
People will say you need to pin less with sust because it has long esters but this is false because you are just getting swings from the short esters then, why not have no swings?
Just pin E or C and do It often enough (at least 2x a week) to not get the hormonal seesaw, or do a shorter ester ED or EOD
Sustanon is a old drug and a bit of a boomer thing, never use it unless its an absolute last resort then pin it ED or EOD
If none of that makes a sense then read more about esters and use a plotter to compare
Always minimize peaks and valleys, always

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Rate the stack for my second cycle

the first cycle is starting imminently. do you titrate up to your chosen test dose at the beginning, or just go straight in with the planned dose? 500. when would you recommend i start my hcg, immediately on the first day? i am planning on ED subq test injections.

>>77449467
why ampoules
who tortures themselves like this

>>77449500
go straight into the dose the ester is going to take time to saturate your blood you're just making an unnecessary fluctuation by not

also solid chance you're getting lumps of oil under your skin going subq, I'd grab some IM needles as back up incase they become too irritating for you (test usually ain't too bad depending on the oil carrier, but if it irritates your skin it's itchy as fuck and annoying - harmless unless there's signs of infection but genuinely irritating)

>>77449500
also I can only assume the reasoning behind ED is to make the injections small enough for subq. everyone's got their own preference but you'll probably genuinely have a better time getting over needle fear and just pinning IM less frequently. 25g is tiny AF and perfectly good for IM

I'm assuming you got test e or c

>>77449270
Not the anon, but I can only assume that it matters in the same way as Test:Tren ratio. 19nors will increase prolactin/progesterone and it does seem like certain ratios minimize this.

1:2 test:tren usually works out great for me. Whereas 0.75:1 or higher makes me fucking crazy.
2:1 also seems to work well

I want to blast this summer without giving up my lower abs. Right now I'm on 200 test/200 tren. Should I do tren/npp? Or should I just up the tren?

>>77448427
dream blast... *sigh* fuck my poor ass. i got test+deca on hand at least. just spent a shit ton on the house though, and got work expenses coming in. alas, no cash to stock up :( pin a day for me! hah

>>77448996
if you're gonna stay on it anyway, buy as much as you can afford. you'll want a few years stashed so you can ride out political bullshit without worry. var is helpful for cutting. maybe some dbol during the blast. deca's good for adding weight, but takes a while to kick in. if you're already blasting it might be too late to start, unless you're doing the reasonable thing and blasting for 24 weeks

>>77449549
could add mast. supposed to work with tren to give it a little boost. or add hgh. you'll get some water, but it'll keep you on the lean side

>>77449549
Why add more compounds on top of so little test? I thought you should get your test as high as you can tolerate, and then only add compounds on top of that.

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>>77447568
>/fraud/ still sleeping on chinkoid bugosterones
>2026
Enjoy not getting all the crazy anti-aging benefits that keep dropping in random CNS and heart tissue cell assays.

>>77449467
Needs more medamed, medbomed, trenamed,faggotmed and niggermed

>>77449615
Why would you think this?

>>77449500
Use hcg the whole time. Do ~700 not 500 (100mg daily injections across various injection sites). You can do you slightly less than 700, but I'd say 90-100mg daily injections is a perfect first cycle.

>>77449696
Because that's what i've been told

where tf in eu can u get real bac saline

>>77449727
what retarded tiktok faggot is telling people to take hcg every day?
Because I know you didnt come up with this idea yourself

>>77449732
Oh yeah you don't have to. You can pick and choose as long as your test is at TRT levels or higher.

>>77449761
No one said to take hcg everyday. Just to use for the entire cycle.

>>77447608
This is the PLATINUM grade spirit we need. Come on boys LET'S LIFT.

>>77449762
But why not 400 test and 200 tren?

>>77449795
Tren sucks ass that’s why.

>work out feels like absolute garbage
>every lift sucks
>failing on warm up even after 3 days of rest
>losing mind muscle connection
>finally do seated ohp last exercise
>added 20lbs, feels like nothing

t-thanks tren

>>77449795
Didn't have great experiences with high test and high tren. I don't get any tren sides unless I have swings in e2 and high test means I have to dial it in.

>>77449833
skill issue

>been on test 5 weeks now
>dad says I look and move like a holocaust victim

Should I add tren

>>77449774
>No one said to take hcg everyday.
Except the part where he said to take it everyday >>77449727

>>77449872
I thought so too but I think he meant the test is 700 and do daily

>>77449868
5 weeks is barely enough time for your blood to even saturate with the hormone

>>77447583
Psmf

>>77449396
That's correct and I agree but I changed my TRT applications from ED to 1x week and I feel absolutely the same. So I guess for dosages like ~100mg that kind of doesn't matter? Who knows

>>77449894
As others have pointed out, estrogen is what matters more. As the dose increases the estrogen swings will increase too
So the higher frequency will let you have an easier time in the cycle in exchange for spending more time on injections.

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How fucked am I with these results? The second test is the free test.
I just want TRT that will make my dick work. Haven't had morning wood in five years. Still can have sex with cialis, but fuck me, I want spontaneous boners all the time again. I want to have sex in the car or somewhere interesting and not in the only comfortable place I am familiar with.

>>77449917
Take P5P and your prolactin will go down and fix your boner problem

>>77449928
Ordered, thanks. I swear to god if this solves it...

>>77449872
He's clearly talking about test you moron. No one is injecting 100mg of HCG a day lol. HCG is dosed in IU not milligrams.

>>77449957
I didn’t get morning wood at 500 Test or 200 Tren but once I added P5P it started to slowly come back, now I almost always wake up wooded. Anecdotal of course but I also added NPP

>>77449971
I'm seeing an andrologist on 20th, but I'll try this. I'd very much rather not roid yet, but fuck me, I miss spontaneous boners and sex at home works, but nothing outside unless I blast fucking 20mg of cialis and even then it's okay-ish.

>>77449983
How old are you? How ugly is your wife? Stress also doesn’t help.

>>77450007
34, stress maxxing right now.

>>77450022
Ah you are getting up there, not having morning wood comes naturally but if you are deadset on wanting it then ya get checked and don’t blast gear but you could hop on light dose in the future.

>>77450037
Fucking Europe, doubt they'll prescribe anything. But at least they'll test me for the venous leak, whatever the fuck that is. I'll try that p5p thing, should arrive tomorrow. If that don't help I'll hope for the andrologist to offer some solution.
Thanks, lads, my future sex conquests appreciate the advice.

>>77449833
>> not doing cardio
>> not hydrating properly
>> not taking liver supports
>> elevated ast+alt making her feel like trash
>> still setting pr's
tldr the solution is to take more tren

>>77449868
eat more, mister skellington. ask ai for the 1900kcal shake recipe, or you can hit 2500 if you swap the whole milk for coconut milk

>>77449894
check your shbg next time. if it's low, you'll aromatize faster, meaning you should spread your pin days to keep e2 low. if you're 20'ish shbg, you're fine. once a week is okay, but you'll get peaks and troughs. better twice weekly to keep your whore moans more consistent, so you're not constantly flip flopping between mood swings

>>77449928
this. test is fine. even slightly out of range prolactin can absolutely fuck you up. e2 maybe a bit high, but everyone is different, and this just may be where yours lands. you can also try diindolylmethane (DIM) to see if it helps lower your e2. chaste tree root may also help, but that's pretty split on if it does help or not

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For the anons that travel, how do you pack your test in your carry on? Do you have a label? Just toss it in there with syringes? Have you ever gotten stopped?

I was mostly thinking about domestic, but if any Int'l anons have any advice for Europe or Asia, I'm all ears too

>>77447699
There is so little research on a big majority of niche peptides that are all so new nobody has written much on them. Pick a goal, whether its losing weight, preserving lean mass during a cut, healing an injury, etc. Then look for a peptide that suits that purpose and DYOR on that particular peptide.

>>77449614
Yes.... You should always run a DHT (like mast) with test and 19nors

>>77450022
stress will 100% kill morning wood
>>77450044
it's not that. if it were, your dick wouldn't work at all. it's just the stress. happened to me too

>>77450212
i've put it in my checked bags. watch out international though, 'cause some places having it, even prescribed, is prison time

>>77450286
<3 thaaaaaanks. i should pick some up then. i miss tren :( the pumps were fun, and easy to come by. i'd get a good pump if i showered too hard

>>77450311
Do you have a trt script or do you just use your alternatively sourced vial? The only time I ever brought a vial and syringes on a plane it was when I had a trt clinic scrip. Now that I'm doing it on my own, I was just thinking I would scrub the label off my vial and pack that.

>>77447568
Just for folks who don't know, cause I only learned this today, there are anabolics you can take that don't shut down your hormone production and still have surprising effects.
>Albuterol/Clenbuterol
Whoever is constantly making these threads should start with this fucking info. Seriously. If you want to convince more people to come to the dark side, you could convince them to dip a toe with this. From what I've been reading, you could cycle clen and reach your natty limit in a ridiculously small fraction of the normal amount of time with no hormone fuckery. The best study on it I found showed a group of fucking already trained individuals managed to pack on 2lbs of muscle in two weeks. Compared to natties that's fucking insane. And muscle biopsy confirmed it was contractile tissue, not water & glycogen.

>>77448126
the guy at janoshik did a torture test on reconstituted gh and there was barely any degradation. Your peptide didn't degrade at all man the hockey puck is from the freeze drying process

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/does-shaking-hurt-hgh.134401748/

>>77448752
all of this mass and the spirits just mock you. unbelievable

>>77450358
I imagine it's like other liquids/medication where you might have to xacto knife off some labeling if it is branded by seller, I don't think TSA negro #14512 will question it but if it has a holographic label with a jacked gorilla he might think twice.

>>77450402
Use alb/clen, go ahead
we'll wait for you to realize why this was retarded

Injected today and the needle bent as I was putting it in, still managed to inject without issue. Should I be concerned?

Think it happened because I injected close to scar tissue from a previous surgery on my thigh.

>>77450722
if all the needle came out then there's nothing to worry about might just feel bruised for a bit

>>77450854
If I injected in to the scar tissue will it still be absorbed?

>>77449467
what is this site and how much would you guyce be ready to pay for something like a compounded anavar or winstrol? I am thinking of making some cash. if you'd trust chinese and indian basement labs, you'd trust an euro one too, right?

Does it matter when I take hgh? Do I have to take it in a fasted state?

>>77450899
it'll absorb no matter what. at most if it didn't inject fully into muscle and became subq you'll get a lump of oil, which will still absorb (just leave it alone). obviously still be mindful if there are signs of abscess or infection like you would with any injection

>>77450980
Before bed, yes it matters and yes it can fuck you.

>>77450402
Clen was my gateway to peptides which might eventually be my gateway to real gear. I don't remember my dosage, but it was probably around 50mcg and I did increase my numbers while cutting which was quite surprising at the time. I think a real gateway to gear is glps because most guys struggle way more with cutting to a real 10% bf than anything else in the gym. After that it's pretty easy to think that peptides are op and try more peptides only to realize that glps are the only really useful ones. That's when there's a chance that you turn to gear because you're in deep at that point.

>>77451489
Clen is obsolete now that we have GLPs

>GLPs are the only useful peptides
I thought this was /fraud/ not pharma shill general

>>77451590
Is your point that gh, hcg, insulin are incredible for muscle building? When I said "GLPs are the only useful peptides" I meant it from the perspective of someone being introduced to peptides so what I was referring to was peptides like ss31, semax, selank, cjc, ipa, dsip, etc. The peptides that people who get into grey market peptides try at some point thinking that it will change their lives as much as glps did. I tried every peptide that I just listed and they are all underwhelming compared to glps in terms of how much they can change your life.
>>77451511
That's basically how I got on glps. I was browsing the same scammy reselling website that I previously got my clen and dnp from and saw glps listed and fell down the grey market rabbit hole.

>>77450542
>I don't think TSA negro #14512 will question it but if it has a holographic label with a jacked gorilla he might think twice
LMAO nice one

>>77449396
Maybe I should stay away from the Sus T, anon

>>77449917
>I want a 16yo libido
Brother your solution has a name: PROVIRON. 10-20mg day. But try the p5p as well/before.

>>77449960
I'm taking 1.5mL of hcg per week though.

>>77451636
Fair enough, for a normie it probably is the highest-impact peptide drug.

>>77451910
not that anon, but i'm one of the unfortunate ones who doesn't seem to get that effect from proviron. was taking 100mg ed, and nada. source was good, too :(
>>77451922
the numbers, mason, what do they mean?! 1.5ml means nothing. how many iu are in the vial, and how much bac water did you add?

How do you guys deal with ball shutdown ? I wanna roid but also want to reproduce someday

>>77452588
>What is PCT
yeah

>>77452592
So you cycle like regular instead of blast and cruise too?

>>77452595
You can do whatever, and when you want kids you drop to TRT or PCT and take ball sperm restart drugs to get back to producing and reproducing.

>>77450212
Diabetes kit bag and a gel cold pack(for hgh) with both filled and unfilled syringes, a couple unmarked vials, a couple marked vials of miscellaneous types of test and other things, in checked luggage and once in carry on to a cruise
Traveled domestic US, Canada and Mexico, both on flights and a couple cruises
No one has mentioned, asked or bothered me about it
I technically have a script for trt but I've traveled without any proof of such, had deca, var, mast and hgh in various forms and generally not been super documented
Nobody cared

just reading this thread is giving me awful anxiety i don’t know why or how you all do it

>>77452612
I want to get big, simple as is

>>77451590
Rent free faggot kekm8

>>77452612
>anxiety
Crashed e2. Take 100 mg dbol

>>77447583
You can gear a potent weekly dose of reta for like $200. No reason to not use GLP1s when cutting and id argue even dor generally longevity, ofc different doses for when cutting/not.

Probably some retard who cant into crypto payments

>>77452612
I'm trying to kill myself
getting super jacked while I do it is just a side quest

>>77452649
Buy a kit of 10 vials for $200. Anyone who buys a single vial is a fucking idiot.

>>77452649
You put an extra 0 in there if we're talking weekly.

>>77452790
>>77452791
Yeah I meant a YEAR'S worth of a potent weekly dose. A 30mg KIT is like $200. Mega obesity weekly dose (8+) being maybe double that at most.

Real kabalian knowledge is moderate dose of reta and cagri (say 4Retaand 1cag) for a superior effect then a max dose of either alone.

>>77452780
Literally me

How many grams off season to compete in classic

How many grams off season to compete in physique

>>77452780
Same.
Life been shit to me, might as well roid

>>77452811
Like a dianabol or 2 - Arnold Schwarzenegger

>>77452612
its not a big deal. the body is a semi-open system. whether you eat a shitty hamburger or inject bathtub chems, it doesn't really hurt much. it's just the choice of eating huge amounts or injecting huge amounts that has issues and you don't have to be anxious about accidentally doing that

>>77452800
Oh good good
I was getting worried for a moment

>>77452800
Gotcha yeah. I think a really good mix is reta and tirz half and half. Maximum food noise suppression with the benefits of your BMR not getting absolutely nuked.

>>77452818
This. Damage accumulates over time in the human body for many substances. The magnitude of the damage depends on the dose but with gear you can take relatively high doses and last a decade or two.

>>77451910
See, that’s the thing, my libido is already sky high, it’s the penis that doesn’t measure up to the challenge without cialis

>>77450044
>>77450299
This, people underestimate stress. Get your cortisol level tested as soon after you wake as possible and then put it in a half life calculator to get your real at wake value. As soon as I induced metabolic stress with a diet my sleep got absolutely fucked. I'm 30 and I'm talking waking up in the middle of the night and incapable of more than 6.5 sleep. My libido was like once a day and most of my life has been 3. Now that I'm maintenance again and getting higher protein all of a sudden libido is back and sleep is better. But yeah the P5P and proviron might help.

IIRC they prescribe proviron in Europe but idk under what circumstances.

>>77452909
Oh. Might be a blood flow issue or mental thing (again cortisol). I think there is confusion because even if you can't get hard people would consider your libido at least not the problem here. In your 30s cialis typically isn't required but honestly I'd take 2.5mg daily anyways. The pumps are great, vascularity is great and my shit is insanely hard

>>77452952
Gotta wait for the 20th, they'll test me for vascular issues and let me know if it's that, test or just in my head.
Meanwhile ashwaganda helped, took it for the last few days, the sleep is better, dick is a little harder, even had morning wood the first time I woke up today.
Don't get a dog in the city if you want good sleep.

>>77452588
nigger tranny's still knock bitches up. you're fine

>>77452649
new study out this week hints the 'glutides help reduce macular degradation due to aging

>>77452811
all the people that know shit left a decade ago

>>77452963
i'm sorry i'm sorry...... i meant... nigger, tranny's still knock bitches up. i intended to belittle you. not insinuate that transvestites of african genealogy impregnate women. although that is also true, you fucking whiny ass bitch

>>77452968
whoa buddy calm down might wanna take an Aromasin you roid raging homosexual

500mg testosterone E per week, 20mg anavar 5x a week, 20mg superdrol 5x a week , 4IU HGH daily, 5IU ins daily

VS

250mg testosterone E per week, 160mg trenbolone per week, 20mg anavar 5x a week, 20mg superdrol 5x a week

Latter one killed my scalp hair. Switched to the top one. Lets hope for some success. I might up the INS later, dunno. Currently taking INS right after gym in the shower and then some dextrose, go home and have a meal.
Opinions on this? I HOPE ins gets me similar results to Tren, not in terms of pure looks ofc
My liver handles Superdrol well or its underdosed

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Best to pin trt every day for stable hormone levels and to minimize sides?

Do you guys think clascoterone will be the solution to blasting any DHT derivative with no hairloss?

>>77453026
Yes
>>77453046
I don’t have hairloss ever because I have good genetics

>>77453078
Good for you.

>>77453095
Thanks

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>>77447568
Super bad PIP lump and I can’t tell if it’s infection or bruising.
I hope it isn’t infection since last time I had that this size it took ages to heal and turned black.
Basically a half golf ball.
22 days until godskinectomy.

Is it true pinning test makes you more likely to have daughters? Every bodybuilder and frauding actor seems to have daughters

>>77453558
Yes.

>>77453558
testicle health determines the chances because producing high quality y-chromosome sperm is more difficult
evolutionarily this make sense since the y-chromosome is almost entirely devoted to testicular development and nature wants to avoid producing males with bad testicles

>>77453020
isn't there a group that says to take var twice a day because something something 12 hours? i think most people take it daily. point being why 5 days a week?

>>77453765
Before every training. Same as superdrol. I could take it 2x a day too ofc

>>77453558
No.

>>77453765
orals are good preworkout. you don't really want to take them at night where the peak and dropoff screw with sleep quality. taking days off reduces liver stress. injectables are going to provide the base anabolism anyway

Sustanon 300mg, NPP and Winstrol 25mg

What am I in for

>>77453411
I found ordering domestically usually gives me better product with no PIP. Better try American Bathtub chemicals instead of Chinese bathtub chemicals

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>>77453840
becoming a furry

>>77453845
This was the same domestic supplier I’ve been using for like 5 years. I think I just fucked up the injection and bled into the skin or something, or picked up bacteria from somewhere between the bottle and the needle. Any time I order internationally I get a love letter from the DEA and no product.

>>77453858
Better add some EQ so I can horse maxx

>>77453877
yeah injecting more than .25mL oil into fat is a problem. i'd go with that diagnosis unless you normally have dirty technique

so, in response to my plan to subq 500 test for baby first cycle, yall would reccomend preeptively buying some IM needles in case it causes me problems? can i get away with shallow IM? god, the process of cycling injection sites, dealing with injection complications until you get in the swing of it seems like a mini nightmare. maybe i should start EOD and then progress to ED after i get more comfortable? i hate that you just have to experiment with what works for you. like, i could cuase so many welts and painful things poking myself in 10 different places trying to get this to work, while the stress levels just go up and up.. i hope i can find the correct method. first injection is looking like tomorrow. i have 1/2 inch 29g needles and tiny 31g 5/16th needles for the HCG. i also wanna take GHK-CU but id have to combine them all into one syringe yeah. maybe I could go GHK cu and HCG in the smaller needled subQ, and then the test in the bigger needles and do shallow IM? sorry im shitposting again. i dont know what ill do to make myself feel better about the plan, it seems liek all there is left to do is just start injecting and then deal with the consequences and learn what adjustments i have to make...

>>77454135
oh right, i have 23 g 1 inch needles too i forgot about. i think im out of excuses... its time to poke

how about this question instead, how many individual injections per week is the maximum before its just too much scar tissue, combining this shit into a single injection seems complicated.

>>77454135
jfc just inject IM twice a week into your ass cheek like someone who's not a schizo autist retard would do.
fuck

>>77454135
Yes you could do EoD or E3.5D if you want, intramuscular, if you don’t want to commit or are scared (no shame being scared first time) to do daily subQ. It just means you’ll have to rotate less often and use more liquid at once, and blood levels wont be AS stable but it won’t be a huge deal depending on esther the testosterone is in (Enanthate, Cypionate, Prop, Ace, etc). You can do multiple peptides in the 31g needle if the dosing schedule lines up, I never used HCG or GHK so I don’t know how often you need to dose each I did reta every 5 days. Asking questions is how you don’t fuck things up you are fine.
>>77454175
In the same spot? Uhh in my experience I would say 3 in the same spot a week is no bueno. Even moving an inch over is doable on bigger muscle areas like quads or glutes, and lats too but if you are on a limited spot you like like delts you have a small area that you might inflame the first day and go try again a few days later and still be unable to do it without causing yourself discomfort. I have skipped rotations a few times due to knicking something or just overuse and want to give it some more time to rest/heal.

do subQ people who routinely get angry welts feel that it is sustainable an fine just getting welts and then letting them die over time

>>77454284
Massage gun in circles right after pinning, but yes if one welts I just don't inject that spot until it goes away (or an inch away from it).

>>77454284
Anything over .5ml subq will leave welts.

>>77454135
But Excel 1ml luer lock rigs. Use 18g to draw and swap to 5/8 27g for pinning. I use the same set up and have for years. The smaller barrel helps with pressure to push the oil through smaller pins

>>77453845
I'd hate to rain on your parade but all gear comes from the same 3 factories in China. Unless you have a license to buy directly from Sigma Aldrich.

>>77453765
You should absolutely use Anavar every 12hrs to keep plasma levels consistent. It's not a pre-workout drug.

>>77451910
I agree 100% Provi is an underrated compound. Although at 50mgs+ daily is where it really shines. I've had labs done a few times in this dose range and it absolutely hammers SHBG. Plus you feel fantastic as well

>>77450944
My trt compound pharmacy was dosed at 50mg was around $4 a troche. But its more valuable now that FDA stopped letting pharmacies from selling Var for off label uses

>>77450537
Jano's integrity has been in question for years. I wouldn't put my trust in him. JMO

>>77450402
Albuterol/Clenbuterol are not anabolics

>>77450312
If you can get your hands on real proviron it is a great compliment to test as well

How much HGH do I need for recomping? Is 3iu enough?
If I go on vacation or something can I skip taking it for like a week?

>>77449270
Anon here.. you don't have to rely on AIs with such a moderate test dose typically. Just use enough a trt dose of test and let NPP be your workhorse. You feel good and make solid gains in strength and growth. The an added DHT with it just covers all bases. I'm a firm believer in running all 3 derivatives (test, 19nor and a DHT). They all compliment each other

>>77454410
Wouldn't you need caber with high NPP though? Isn't that even worse than AI to dial down the dose perfectly? So it is choosing between one of these right?

1) high test, low npp/deca, moderate DHT and an AI
2) low test, high npp/deca, moderate DHT and caber

>>77448249
It will definitely wreck your lipids the more you use. But var should be kept short. 6-8 weeks. So it's not long enough to do any real damage.
Also, I am 100% against statins. Have you considered trying alternative routes to remedy the situation? I feel the long term damage they cause out weighs the benefit on your lipid profile

>>77454418
No... Prolactin increase is generally only an issue when your E2 is elevated. That's why I suggested a trt dose of test. I have ran NPP as high as 700mgs weekly and never had any notable increase in my prolactin.

>>77454418
Also I always choose low test, moderate to high NPP and a DHT. I also like to run my DHT at a moderate to high dose as well. It feels great and it hammers SHBG to increase your free test.

>>77454424
You're dumb and outdated.
https://www.cremieux.xyz/p/statins-and-strength

>>77454466
That covered none of my concerns. But it seemed like a nice article

>>77454466
Shalom
PCSK9 inhibitors over (((statins))) any day

>>77454666
Interesting. Thanks for the info. They seem to make far more sense than statins. Also if anons are concerned with triglycerides fenofibrate is also a far better option than statins

>>77454691
>fibrates
You'll want to go with FGF21 analogues instead desu

>>77454331
i think in my retarded flailing on my keys this was the most important thing i wanted to know, thanks

Ok besides SERMS what else can I do to restore my HPA and HPG axis?

>>77454874
goon

>>77454874
Hcg

>>77454874
Melanotan-II

>>77454386
His integrity can be questioned in the cases of chinese suppliers paying him for better COA that's fine, but I don't think that it's valid to apply these concerns when we're discussing him stress testing gh for fun. Peptides are way more resilient that people make them out to be especially while they are lyophilized which was the guy's concern.

>>77454888
Thanks nigga
You are a real nigga

>>77454882
Isn't HCG suppressive?

>>77454874
>HPG
hCG and GnRH agonists (be very careful with these, but they are much more powerful than hCG imo)
>HPA
Sleep well, lift heavy
>>77454955
No it's not as long as you don't overdose on it, you should probably step down your dose over time as your HPG axis resensitizes

>>77454955
Yes.

>>77454666
That's great and all but I can barely source statins, let alone that stuff.

>>77449928
Holy shit anon. It might be psychosomatic, but I took it yesterday and I woke up with morning wood today. Holy shit, you're a lifesaver.

>>77455249
we did it, xisters! we gave a man an erection. we can hang up our body dysmorphia now -- we finally pass

>>77455288
I think I will transition now!

>>77454441
Hmmm currently 500 Test 250 NPP 50 Anadrol, lowering the test might be beneficial if what you’re saying is true. What would drop it to if right now I feel good with it but could be convinced to run a better ratio with higher NPP?

someone said you dont want to combine oil based and water based in the same syringe, that true? can i not add my little bit of hcg into my subq test injection?

>>77455853
That's news to me I've been doing it for years.

>>77452649
I don’t wanna use glps1s because I don’t feel joy when the weight is gone compared to normal way of losing weight and suffering

>>77455867
I'm sorry but this sounds retarded

Gym bros are cringe and g4y

>>77455423
If what you're doing is working don't make any drastic changes. Try low t high npp on your next blast.

i am about to start my first cycle tonight, however there will be a party i will be attending in 4 days where i will be doing a moderate amount of drinking, i figure maybe 3 drinks. should i push back first pin day, im sick of waiting and dying to start.

is it necessary to reconstitute HCG with 2 ml bac water all in one quick syringe or can i use two 1 ml syringes in quick succession

guys, i was heavily debating what my second cycle should be.
first i was thinking test + npp + var, then i wanted to do test + mast + var.
i just caved and ordered test + tren + var.
what am i in for?
im planning on doing 20 weeks 500 test 200 tren, var for the last 8 weeks.

>>77456077
I guess, I can see a lower Test dose being good since 500 is fun but I liked 350 prior.
>>77456223
You shouldn’t drink at all but it won’t make a huge difference that early since you won’t be fully saturated for around 4 weeks anyways.
>>77456283
Tren is a meme, unless you want to stay cut and shredded while gaining versus the puffy full carb NPP gains

>>77456223
I mean it doesn't really matter too much, but I'd wait. Go to the party, get drunk, have fun, deal with the hangover, and then once you're all back to normal, start your cycle.

>>77456077
This.. just commit to your current blast. There is always blasts in the future

Is having a good base necessary or can I take test as a weak fuck who can barely bench 1pl8?

>>77454774
Thanks for the info anon

>>77456350
I will DIE if I don’t change my routine and stack every 4 weeks!!!! I NEED TO BE PUMPED FULL OF EVERY DIFFERENT PED YEARLY
>>77456356
There is a few schools of thought where some people say you should blast during newbie gains phase to maximize them, but then some say you should hit your natty limit THEN blast. I say as long as you have everything peachy and routine like nutrition, supplements, gym splits, and you actually know how to hit your goals for hypertrophy or endurance like mind/muscle connection and you aren’t swinging weights; you can hop on whenever.

>>77456356
It's more so that it's a waste at that level. Beginner gains don't get much faster with gear. If it takes a beginner 8 weeks to go from maxing out 1 plate to repping 1 plate, gear would maybe let you do it in 7 weeks. Not really worth it, but doesn't really do any harm either.

There is no jab that substitutes actually doing stuff. If you aren't already going to the gym, taking test won't make you start.

You will get the fun androgenic effects though. But without discipline you'll probably just sit around jerking off to increasingly degenerate porn. Roiders do that anyway, but at least I squeeze in a workout too.

>>77456339
There's literally no point in changing your test dose at this point. Especially if you've already dialed in your e2

>>77456356
Guys that roid before they know how to build muscle naturally tend to look odd. When you're on gear, all the same rules apply. So why not learn the basics before you fuck your hormones? Just hop on once you hit a plateau.

>>77456223
Just start now. It will take a while before the test saturates. Plus, and I know this is an unpopular opinion, but drinking very rarely isn't that big of a deal. Just don't drink so much that you feel like a miserable piece of shit nbd

Reposting from my thread

I don’t think Sam looks good. Even for the class he competes in, I think he is too blocky. Despite that, I don’t know how much gear he is on so I can’t judge his “genetics” if he looks like this at 1g a week, very good, if he’s 2g+ a week, I think it’s bad

So how do you really judge bodybuilders and their “genetics”? A guy with gifted 1-10000 genetics who refuses to blast more than 750mg of gear will always look worse than a guy who doesn’t give a fuck and is willing to kill their body with 3g of gear

What do you think? I don’t always think bigger = better, but if you’re a smaller guy (sub 230) you’re just not in the running in bodybuilding

Maybe I’m wrong, maybe guys like laid, zyzz, seid, zane are “better” physiques than sulek, but they’d lose to him on a bodybuilding stage

>>77456539
Yeah I already hopped on once expecting it to be a super serum but instead of turning into a supe I just got fat and bloated with tons of acne. Didnt even make me all that stronger in the gym

>>77456225
hcg in a vacuum sealed vial? stab it however many times you want. you'll be drawing from it anyway. it's only an issue if the lab used cheap shit rubber stoppers, and you'll know very quickly if they're shit -- you'll see chunks of rubber floating in the vial

>>77456283
take tudca and nac for liver support the entire time when taking tren for a long period like that. your alt+ast will likely go through the fucking roof. gonna get you some liver damage

>>77456356
do what you want. it doesn't matter. the one thing you do need to sort out first is learn how to lift properly. roidin + newbie gains will pack on lean mass fast, amd you'll 100% fuck something up within the first few months. like... tear a muscle or tendon, fuck up your back/wrist/elbow/knee/shoulder, or fuck up your spine. none of these are temporary. bpc+tb wont help. it'll take you months to recover, and you'll have the joy of never ending nagging pain

>>77456675
Different strokes, some people like big hulkiness, some like lean cut athletic, some want to be power shitters.
I want to be happy with my own body.

>>77456675
>So how do you really judge bodybuilders and their “genetics”?
You don't. You can only really judge insertions, muscle bellies and overall shape for genetics. Are you underage or something? It seems like you genuinely have no clue how bodybuilding works.

>>77456747

Yeah, totally. Size and drug tolerability play zero role in bodybuilding. That’s why Arnold wouldn’t place today. Also why you can show up 30 lb underweight and place /s

>>77456718
liver specifically isn't really the problem though. it's the body and mind being completely bloodshot stressed out.

>>77456796
How much tren do I need to take to experience this? I feel normal at 400mg

>>77456802
I imagine it has to do with the trensomnia affecting your sleep affecting your mental health. Not so much Tren dosage specifically

>>77456283
The real red pill is EQ to have some androgens 24/7 even if your lazy about shots, then filling thr rest of ur AAS needs witb tren and orals. Some HCG or test for SOME test cuz you need that bioidentical hormone at metabolites and shiet.

>nandrolone
Tren is simply the superior progestogenic 19-nor

>>77456726
This. I’m five weeks into my first cycle and had some tendinitis showing up that ground my shit to a halt. I was working out way more than I should just because I felt great. Thankfully it’s almost fully gone but I’m being much more careful now.

>>77456802
I guess it's just genetic. Bostin Loyd always talked about taking 1000mg. Things didn't affect him mentally. Of course the downside is his aorta exploded at age 29. I definitely feel it at almost any dose and notice changing hormones in general. Or like that estrogen symptom chart where the mental sides line up for me.

>>77456802
i didnt notice 300. 600 i was constantly hot. 1000 i was a cunt

>>77456796
ah yeah i definitely was out of gas at month 7. but that's whatever. add some hgh to sleep, maybe? my liver values were wild though since i stopped taking ancillaries for no reason. if that gets to out of hand is permanent

I like anavar

but I LOVE anadrol

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I dont feel anything when touching my tits but its weird. Are they supposed to "pop out" like this

No, I obviously dont use steroids but since this is a common topic among those who do, I thought I should ask here.

Closest thing to primo that isnt fuck expensive? I thought EQ would be similar but too many issues

>>77457030
>Brown nipples

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>>77457031
Mast more than EQ but all three fill similar roles
EQ is a technically a test derivative while the other two are DHT derivatives
Primo is just the weakest and also least blood toxic so its popular for the later
That unfortunately means for the same level of effects as mast, you'd take more of primo, an already expensive compound, which would negate the "easy on bloods" benefit

TLDR Don't be a pussy and blast the masteron

The anon using a dht plus test in his blasts knows whats up btw, very based.

>>77457030
Genetics, water retention related to estrogen, just a little fat from higher bf are all potential causes of that even natty
Are they supposed to? Sometimes for some people
Not all nipples are the same anon

>>77457134
Isnt mast a cutting compound?

>>77457151
>cutting compound
hate you fucking retards so fucking much

>>77457031
testosterone
I'm mean your goal is to grow muscle, right?

>>77457151
That does not mean a noncompetitor can't use it on a blast to add mass while staying lean and vascular
You aren't a competing pro bodybuilder so why would you cycle steroids for one day of ultra on-stage leanness rather than 6+ months of lean enough to mog all natties and most roiders

>Best chest day in a while
>Worst PIP ever experienced
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away

Yo wtf. Is it normal to get a fucking pump in the muscles in your FACE when you're on gear?
Like when I'm chewing my jaw and muscles up around my eyes and ears get visibly pumped and it looks fucking weird

>>77457337
I seem to get a jaw pump when eating chewy stuff but it isn't visually noticeable

>>77457337
>>77457340
oh fuck! i had noticed my jaw would get tired even eating trail mix. was that another tren thing? fuck that was annoying

>>77457365
I was on tren when I noticed it, yes.

DHL customs agent is asking me to describe what is in my package (reta/hgh/tirz/hcg)
What lie do I come up with?

>>77457705
horny goat weed

>>77457705
Perfume, dumbass.

>>77457760
>powdered perfume

>>77457763
Peptides are always packed in perfume boxes and covered in plastic. DHL cannot open the plastic.

What do you guys take for energy ? Ive tried Jack3d and NAD+

Do you think competing on stege is worth it? If you had a body that could consistently place top 3 in your desired category, would you do it?

I feel like making a preworkout and shilling it to some tik tok zoomers is a way better investment of time/health

>>77458337
You would have to compete as advertising for the preworkout

Simply blast shit tons of gear, compete and win. Then say the preworkout is what helped you win.

>>77458296
caffeine sleep and food not enough for you my nigga?

>>77458396
Absolutely not, I can barely get out of bed, even on 300mg test

>>77458399
how big are you? maybe sleep apnea?

>>77458399
get a 3 slot per day pill organizer and load up on every antioxidant you can.

>>77458399
depressed? hormonal imbalance? not eating enough? eating trash? using recreational drugs or alcohol? obese sleep paralysis demon?

fuck the tren is making my muscles feel so tight/pressured and swollen. by the end of my 4 day split I get woken up by the ache. is there any disadvantage to increasing above 6gs of taurine daily

>>77458987
I have never felt juicier than my current blast with Nandrolone. I am so full and pumped during sets I think I need to donate blood again it's almost starting to hurt my biceps.

So gear is cheap as shit the main cost is basically paying some fat filipino bird to suck blood out my veins?

Fucking annoying that, test is like £100 then £1k to make sure im not murdering myself.

>>77459615
what? donate to a blood bank or get 18ga needles and turn your bathroom into a crime scene

>>77447583
Well...Have you heard of Rapid Fat Loss by Lyle McDonald? Shit's brutal but will work.

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>>77459615
Is your blood too AIDs infested to donate?